Denmark's STRANGE Intercity Train / DSB IC3 From Hamburg to Copenhagen
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Hello and welcome back to Denmark! Today we're taking an international service from Hamburg, Germany upto Copenhagen, Denmark.
The DSB IC3 DMUs are certainly a strange looking train, aren't they? Well, we'll find out why this is the case and also check out some amazing infrastructure along the route including the spectacular Rendsburg Viaduct and the Great Belt Fixed Link... I hope you enjoy the video!
Date of Filming: 26/9/21
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: DSB (Danish Railways)
Departure: Hamburg, Germany
Arrival: Copenhagen, Denmark
Cost: First Class 400 Danish Krone (£47.36, €53.90, $57.08)
Second Class 220 Danish Krone (£26.05, €28.90, $31.40)
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Fun fact, the IC3 trainsets were designed such that two together fit perfectly into the Great Belt Train Ferries before the bridge opened in 1997.
That's a great fun fact 👌🏻😎
Edit nvm: car numbers have to be maintained. Is the driver cab designed so that it matters less if the cab boarding the ferry is the driver cab used after the ferry? Cool
@@hobog whichever cab is in the front is the driver's cab, doesn't matter which one it is. When the trains go up and down Jylland they switch direction in Aarhus because that station faces east/west and the mainline is north/south, so they have to go out the same way they come in, and at that station it's also normal to add/remove train sets, so both ends of the trains are commonly used on most trips - and since they also split/collect trains in Fredericia and Odense the cabs had to be designed so they can use either one of them as needed
Thanks for doing a trip report here in Denmark, and fantastic video as always. Fun fact the IC3 is usually coupled to a electric IR4 EMU, making DSB the only rail operator in the world to couple DMU and EMU together on a regular basis
Never on this route, I believe.
@@NonstopEurotrip correct, its mainly done on the Copenhagen to Århus line, and the IR4 is detached/attached at Fredericia
@@NonstopEurotrip It is done on the route, just the other way, so when travelling from Copenhagen, they sometimes have an IR4 on the back, that will be decoupled in Kolding.
There would be no point in taking an IR4 down to Hamburg as it operates on 25kv only.
@@christophernoble6810 And doesn't have German signaling system.
Some sidenotes:
Years back i was wondering why they build those railway stations this high like in Hamburg and also in Copenhagen. I saw why when I watched a steam engine rolling into the station for a special service tour around christmas time from Hamburg to Bremen. Imagine steam engines on all tracks in the shed......
The swinging ferry under the Rendsburg viaduct is just in service again after a lenghty repair time because it hit a ship while transversing the canal.
You can walk over the bridge bow at the Little Belt bridge. There are guided tours where you get a grey cover suit to prevent the car drivers getting nervous about people climbing on the bridge.
Worth to mention in Odense is the railroad museum located beside the train station. You could see it in your video when the train stopped in Odense.
Thanks for the information 🙂ℹ️
@@NonstopEurotrip My pleasure..... since I live not to far away from those places I've had the pleasure to visit or use all those places except the bridge walk. But this is still on my bucket list.
My hometown Mölln (south from Lübeck) has a railway station since 1851 (the line was the Lübeck-Büchener-Eisenbahn) The line has a kind of interesting history, since it was first planned in the 1840s but vetoed by the King of Denmark but then a lot of important people including the russian Tsar talked to the King and so the railway could be build.
Thank you! During highschool, my class went to Germany via the Rendsburg high bridge. I was shocked at first, because I didn't know it was a part of the journey, and suddenly it was as if we were airborn. But what a view. :) Going to Hamburg in june 2023, so now I'm looking forward to this part again. :)
Quite an amazing trip isn't it! 😎
@@NonstopEurotrip, it really is! :)
I have notice that they are going to faster trains these days, except here in the USA, they are behind times when it comes to moving people. Thank you
I think they are trying in sone places!
Great report! I remember doing the same trip back in 1998 via Puttgarden and the ferry. It was a nice ride and the coaches were completely full back then as well! I also remember going to a McDonald's located on the top level at Hamburg Hbf and just sit there for hours until it was my time watching trains passing by. It made me felt so happy! .🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Ditto in 2006. But my connection time was short so no McDonald’s for me. Unforgettable trip though.
Nostalgia here. See had these trains running between Karlskrona-Malmö, Karlskrona-Helsingborg and Karlskrona-Kalmar, Malmö-Kalmar. When it drove in the South it was called the coast-arrow and to above coast to coast. It was the very same trainset. When they electrified the railway, some did go back to Denmark and some ended somewhere else in Sweden.
Thanks for sharing 🙂
Similar train sets but not identical.
@@hughmnyks that's strange. I did travel with both version during that time. Both Swedish and Danish. And what I understood of the information about both trainsets they were having the same specifications. What wasn't similar? Gauge? The colour scheme wasn't the same.
@@Dragontrumpetare I have discovered in Wikipedia that the IC3 was used across the Øresund just after the Link opened, because there weren’t enough of the Öresundståg sets. But you’re right, the IC3 was used on Kustpilen from 1995 to 2021, known in Sweden as the Y1 the IC3 was made in Randers in Jutland, but the factory closed and the Öresundståg sets are German. The engines and gearboxes were German. The rubber “noses” were made in Burton-on-Trent in the English West Midlands. Very nice video, by the way!
On the frequency. I talked to someone at DSB at one of the days they were showing of the Vectron locomotives (They don't have any carriages to pull yet, so about half of them are not in use at the moment, and they thus use them quite a bit for promotional material) and he mentioned that they were planning to have trains every two hours at least, when they got the Talgo sets. And there was talk of maybe even doing hourly service (though probably only when the Femern Fixed link opens)
Two hourly would be amazing and probably sufficient. That new tunnel can't come soon enough!
I heard they were in talks with DB to rent some German IC coaches till they get the talgo coaches for the Hamburg Copenhagen line to be hauled by their vectrons for use on the Copenhagen - Hamburg line.
Great, thanks! I saw the Kiel canal high bridge and the Great Belt bridge from underneath as our cruise ship took us from the UK to Russia and back a few years ago. If my memory serves, the cafe under the viaduct plays the national anthem of every cruise ship that passes - I hope they played the Danish anthem for your train as it passed!
Very cool! 😀😀😀
For Denmark, the fare is shockingly good. The second class fare on this route, is more or less the same as the bus from Aarhus to the Aarhus airport.
That is shocking 🤣
Good? The prices are nuts! Way way to high. Which I believe is the reason why so many Danes use their cars and other means of transportation instead of trains when they want to take longer trips.
And it’s shockingly late 70% of time is what I hear.
@@dennispedersen7460 for this route, he means.
@@dennispedersen7460 Wait till you see the bus fare in the UK then Danes will be speachless. But public transport is actualy cheaper than a car but Danes don't see this as they only factor in petrol prices.
@@Mgameing123 are you Danish?
Very nice video! I crossed the remarkable long bridge in Rendsburg 2 years ago - just for the fun of it 😊! It is really impressive! But as I experienced several times: Using trains (or more or less any other means of public transportation) is often quite "exausting" in Germany! Boarding/deboarding is on the one hand often very hectic but on the other hand very ineffective and veeeery slow! Although there is plenty of information and signposting everywhere in Germany, many locals - for whatever reason - seem to completely refuse to just....read🙄!
Amazing isn't it ☺️
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Great video once again. Loved it as always too. 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much 🤗
The IC3 was my favorite train growing up. Israel railways bought about 45 sets of them during the 90s, and they were in service all over. Compared to the rest of their aging fleet back then, these sets seemed like spaceships to me. Nowadays only a few of them are left in service, on only a couple of lines, and they are due to be completely retired in a few months which of course makes me somewhat sad. As a regular on these trains for many years, I have to tell you that to really experience this train at its best, you're often better off with a second class seat in one of the intermediate cars (the carriage between the two motor coaches in each three car set), as they are whisper quiet and much smoother. The first class on these trains is actually located in the worst part of the train - the forward most motor coach, which is quite loud and also very bumpy, because of the wind resistance on that peculiar snout this train has. But then again, listening to those Scania motors and the ZF gearboxes doing their thing also has its charm. I remember when I was a kid many drivers would run with the door to the cab open on my local line, and I always made it a point when I got on to look and see if that was the case. If it was, I'd most definitely catch the seat in front and spent the ride peeking into the cabin as the train flew down the track. 🙂
Thanks for sharing 🙂
Are these scania v8s? I rode one on this same route and loved the sound. I want to go back and do it before they get retired.
Fun fact about this: Danish railways have bought several of the retired Isralean sets to use as spare parts to keep the IC3 rolling (along with all the retired Swedish sets)
I have been riding those gummi noses danish trainsets several years ago between Hamburg and Kopenhagen, too. Back then the train was still using the route via Puttgarden and Roedby using a ferry. It’s a pity that this scenic route is not used any more.
I know right 😆
@@NonstopEurotrip True, but the railway network has to improve. The connection between Copenhagen and Hamburg has always been a sore spot on the railway network with the slow journey times, low speeds, and lack of capacity. The whole reason they can't take the old route is because the german side is being completely replaced with a brand new 200km/h high speed line, all while the line on the Danish side is almost completely overhauled to 200km/h speeds already. The biggest obstacle as of now is the Storstrøm bridge in the southeast of Denmark. The current bridge is delapidated and a new bridge is under construction to replace it. Problem is it should've been ready for train traffic by mid 2023 according to the original plans but as it stands now it won't be complete until 2027.
This won’t be a problem then as the new tunnel will not be complete until 2029.
@@christophernoble6810 maybe not in relation to that it it does have pretty devastating impacts on the rest of the Danish railway network and the renovation of that. Because of the new bridge not being ready until 2027, they're forced to keep using the IC3 DMUs on the corridor until then as they're their only DMUs with ETCS equipped. And because of the IC3s being used there, that means IC4s are gonna have to be used on more of the network. DSB wants to retire these as soon as possible but they aren't equipped with ETCS and have no plans for it. So electrification of the lines on which they run can't be turned on until the IC4s are retired from it, due to thr electrification and ERTMS being intertwined. This all means there are fewer IC3's available for Intercity traffic, but also that the line to Aarhus and Aalborg can't become electric until whenever the IC4's are entirely retired, due to their maintenance facility being located there.
Everything was timed and planned like an Olsen Gang movie and the Italian contractors coming in and screwing up this bridge is like Yvonne doing something stupid as always, completely ruining the gang's operation.
@@drdewott9154 how exactly is electrification and ERMTS intertwined?
I am from Australia but I lived in Denmark for 1 year in 1998. I also took a train from Copenhagen to Hamburg, and of course back then it included a trip on the ferry. For an Aussie teenager, even though the train was Diesel, it was incredibly futuristic to me at the time. We had nothing like that in Australia back in the 1990s. And when the train drove straight on to the ferry I was in complete shock. What precision! A train driving onto a ferry is still unthinkable in Australia now, 25 years later.
And soon there will be a tunnel on that route!
In Odense you´ve forgot to mention, that Hans Christian Andersen was born there!
Silly me 🤣
Going to guess here that he didn't "forget" it, but just didn't consider it to be interesting enough...😁
The train looks a lot more comfortable than the DB ICE3 we took from Frankfurt to Brussels earlier this week - they were not uncomfortable, but you got very achey sitting for >4 hours on them! They were not nearly as comfortable as I remember ICE trains being!
Tbh I like the ICE 3, but this is very much a different generation of train. When seats were much comfier I guess 🤣
Well Denmark is quite small ( no train lines in Greenland of course) so the longest time to stay in an national train is app 45 minutes
@@steffenrosmus9177 or 3 hours if you go from Copenhagen to Frederikshavn
That viaduct AND a transporter bridge ? Amazing
Oh yes 😍
3:15 Just a matter of your wording: 180 km/h is the speed the train is restricted to, as that is the maximum line speed in Denmark, but it's technically not the train's top speed. They're fully capable of going well over 200 km/h (believe they hit ~240 km/h during speed trials), but the Danish rail network and especially the ATC is built for a maximum speed of 180 km/h, and thus the trains had to be restricted to that. In tunnels (mostly the Great Belt tunnel) the trains are not allowed to go faster than 160 km/h as there are concerns about friction heating. We recently got a new line from Copenhagen to Ringsted which is certified for 250 km/h and parts of the network is being rebuilt for 200-220 km/h, but there are no plans to re-certify the IC3 for these speeds as they are getting old and are on a "we have to keep them running" status. As a by-the-by, the 4-car electrical version, the ER, went over 260 km/h during speed trials, but they too are limited to 180 km/h travel speed.
Presently the IC3 trains (the MF units) are scheduled to be replaced - the new trains have been ordered - but will likely keep running up until 2035, possibly longer depending on delays in deliveries, and if the delivery schedule holds up they will start to be phased out from 2030. The trains on the Hamburg route should however be replaced soonish by new international cars pulled by our brand new Vectron locomotives (in service since November 2021) before that, although there's still no exact date for when the new cars will arrive. The IC3 trains will however surpass the 10 year younger, and 10 times worse, IC4 trains (the MG units), which should get phased out from 2025 if the new trains arrive on time. The IC3's electrical sister trains - the ER4 - are quite a bit younger and should keep running basically till they fall apart, but their electrical systems were not designed to support multiple voltages, so they can't be driven in Germany. The whole Covid situation has made the train deliveries a bit uncertain, so no one know for certain whether we'll get the new trains in 2025 or later. In Denmark some of the routes that used to be serviced by these IC3 trains now have Coastline trains (ET units, or X31 in Sweden) which were built to run from Helsingør to Stockholm (in Sweden), but now have some departures to western Denmark as those lines have recently been electrified
Been on one of the last trains that went to Puttgarden before they closed the line onto the island of Fermarn, now there is the big wait for the tunnel. Looking forward to the new fast connection!
Me too, it really needs it!
@@NonstopEurotrip Yes indeed, missed that old route.
presently the Femern connection is on hold indefinitely as they can't figure out how to get the new track across Guldborgsund - the straight between Lolland and Falster. Original plan called for a tunnel, but that would have destroyed a huge amount of the surrounding landscape and completely circumvented Nykøbing F, the biggest town in the region, so now they're trying to come up with a more intelligent solution that makes more sense. Meanwhile the new Storstrøm (Great Stream) bridge (between Sjælland and Falster) which was supposed to open in July 2022 is still only a few pillars in the water as the chosen contractor proved incompetent and went bankrupt. So although the Femern connection was originally supposed to open in 2028, currently there is no opening date as next to no work has been done for it and nothing will be done until the economy normalizes
Took the rubber nose train yesterday for a day trip to Copenhagen. First time not on the ferry route for me. And I must say that it was a smooth, on time travel. The train sets however are off age and outta time with there stinking diesels. Inside it feels a bit like sitting in aunties living room 😉Someone onboard mentioned that these IC3 sets were built by talgo. I didn't know that til now.
The Rendsburg loop must have been a real disaster for those living under the viaduct, back in time when the train toilets were still open and not closed systems 😜
Absolutely agree 😌👍🏻
Vwet Much agree with your feelings about Hamburg. I lived there for awhile when I was young (out along the Elbe in a place called Niensteden)
Lovely isn't it 😊
Happy New Year! Great vid! BTW, across from Odense Station is the national railway museum...
Happy new year! And thanks for the information ℹ️🙏🏻
Amazing train video! Awesome places! Good work, master! Thumbs Up
All the best from Dublin & Happy New Year
Andrew
Happy new year to you too Andrew ☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip Thanks a lot! 🎉🎊😉
Have only ride this route once with at that time the train "Alfred Nobel" from Hamburg to Stockholm which was derouted this way instead of the Puttgarden - Rödby Färge linie. At that time is was a ferry over the Great Belt
Sadly they removed the names on the trains, and also the interior theme coresponding with the name.
@@herrensaar1989 Alfred Nobel was the name of an EC train scheduled run. Like the Neptune and Øatersee Express to Berlin. I don’t think there was an IC3 dedicated to a Swede, but yes it is a pity the names on the IC3 trainsets went away.
@@erik_griswold I know there was one dedicated to Ernst-Hugo Järegård, ho were a Swedish actor, so I figured there must had been one with Nobel. But you're right, I just checked and there werent.
Even though I would swear that, I have a memory of reading the biography, printet on the wall in the vestibule on the train.
@@erik_griswold The train Alfred Nobel was a sleeper train between Stockholm and Hamburg not a EC train at that time, what I remember it was cancelled in the late 80th or early 90th.
Very nice! As a Dane I’ve got yet to try the train to Hamburg
Go for it!
@@NonstopEurotrip imma wait to 2029 so it’ll be faster 😂 or to the talgo comes 😅
Excellent trip and for the Train 8-10 years from now it will use Schnellfahrstrecke Lübeck Puttgarden Rødby Copenhagen via the new tunnel. 1963-2019 the train used Puttgarden Rødby train ferry
Indeed yes, as mentioned in the video.
504.000 in Odense is bit too optimistic, - 182.000 is the correct number !
And thanks for the ride !
Deliberate mistake 😉
I have no knowledge of trains but thank you for covering Denmark small country so we enjoy any attention hope our flat landscape didn't bore you too much 😅
Glad you enjoyed it! 😄
I quite like the plug socket being up high , enjoyable post
It's not fun with a laptop charger 🤪
I have visited this bridge while I was traveling too Flensburg
Gooood video presentation. And - if you have a few hours extra and get off in Odense, you have the Danish Railroad Museum right next to the station. You can actually see it from your stop-view in the video - the sharp red buildings...
I went, last time I was there 😁✌🏻
I am absolutely sad that the Hamburg Hbf-København H train doesn‘t board the ferry. You could say it was a one-time experience for me, as I only rode the train when it used the ICE 3 models that went on diesel in 2015.
Me too 😭
Great trip report
18:22
But there is a reason for that.
The IC3 DMU is the only DSB train that have the german ATC installed.
Well only 17 of them have😁
Yes, but they could have fitted to the vectrons sooner or used ICE TDs again
@@NonstopEurotrip Yea.
Or fitted to the IR4 EMU.
Hi we enjoyed your video, it was informative and interesting, my only complaint is on the German side they announced something in German and then gave the English version which you cut. I would have liked to hear what was said. But the rest was great, that viaduct was magnificent. Cheers 🍻
Sorry about that. Which part?
@@NonstopEurotrip hi there again, as the train pulled out of Hamburg an announcement in German was spoken over the intercom just as the same announcer was repeating that same announcement in english you cut to another part. My wife and I were interested in what the announcement was. Other than that we enjoyed your video, good to see the sights and learn about the various towns, etc along the route.
@@9501599 It was just a generic welcome message combined with a reminder of the mask mandate in Germany.
@@Rhangaun hello again, oh and thank you for that.
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Interesting video, thanks, but several of the carriages looked as though they needed a good clean
Yes, you are right 😂
Very strange looking train. Compare to other trains around the world. Happy New Year.
Happy new year to you too Andrew ☺️🪅🧨🎇
@@NonstopEurotrip Thanks 😊
Just did this journey and on to Malmo. Couldn’t understand why still using diesel trains. Interesting trip though. Recommend the Interail pass but book seats as trains are often full!
Exactly, definitely recommended 😁
Can't wait to 2029, when the €10 Billion Fehnmarn Belt Fixed Link will open between Northern Germany & Southern Denmark, cutting down this train journey from 4:30 to 2:30 hours!
*Btw, I travelled in time again from Friday to last Wednesday to wish you a Happy New Year 2023*
🥳🥳🎉🎉🎊🎊🎇🎇🎆🎆
With an appropriate increase in the fares…. Lets say, double what they are now
Happy new year to you too Pedro! 🎇🧨🪅
@@davidwebb4904 idk about that. Sure inflation will happen, but Flixbus will likely still be as competitive as ever. Heck their might even be competition directly on the rails by the time the tunnel opens, meaning DSB will have to get their act together. Flixbus is already a very prominent competitor to DSB on this route with their buses having a similar journey time at a lower price and with greater capacity.
@@drdewott9154 Fehnmarnbelt is not free. Its a toll tunnel. Road or Rail, both will pay heavily to use it.
@@davidwebb4904 So does DSB's existing trains to use the Great Belt bridge, based on all I know the toll to cross the Femern bridge will be a similar rate. They'll literally just switch out one toll bridge for another.
In many respects they remind me of the 159 units used on Exeter-Waterloo services.
Really? 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip 3 car, comfortable walk through design, just take away the rubber crumple zones :)
Superb peisaj de pe viaduct!
Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Very good content, thank you. btw, I spotted a lady reading a book while you were doing your wark round. You don't see that very often these days !!👍👍
I actually see it more than you might imagine on trains!
When Fehmarn link is ready, it is expected that the schedule will be each hour. And connections to Aarhus.
And it can't come soon enough!
Great video !!
Thanks!
Oh yess the old and new intro 💕
Very nice! Happy New year!
Same to you!
Funny thing about travelling Europe (or when you even think about Europe) you get the sudden desire to listen to Sting..
Blue circle with red strikethru, blue triangle crosswalks, yep, sting fans live here
Beatles for me 😅
Should have got off in Odense 😝
Love Odense 😍😍😍
Strange that the IC3 worked in providing full walkthrough access while the Koploper failed...
Indeed although I believe the systems are very different
Lovely video. I hope you enjoy the train and travel :-)
Best from a crewmember 🚂👨✈️
Many thanks! I loved it 🥰
@@NonstopEurotrip Welcome back on board, some day
I did that trip on the old route by train-on-ferry. Wanted to see that, only to find out I slept right through it 😊🤣
Oh no how annoying!! 🥹
En Redondela (Galicia, Spain) hay varios de los viaductos mas impresionantes que vi en mi vida!
On which line?
These trains in Spain are DMU's and formed of 2 coaches
Ich bin mit ihm 1* gefahren. Hat mir aber gefallen.👍
We have to drive now as even 6 weeks out it was as expensive for a family of 3 to go by train even in second class as it was to fly.
That's a shame 😕
Nice video Dsb train is good go pro hero black 11 black is best for train video Happy new year
Welcome to "my" part of Germany ;)
😍😍😍
The double decker trains (in hamburg station) are really really pretty.What type of train is that?
that should be a Bombardier Twindexx Vario, no guarantee though
Bombardier Twindexx 4-car EMUs from DB Regio Nord, they operate on the RE7 regional service going north from Hamburg. 2 4-car sets are coupled together until Neumünster, then they are split and continue seperately towards Kiel and Flensburg.
I know it's an unusual place for the plugs but I'm betting it's easier to forget a charger and cable under the seat than it is when it's dangling in the air like that.
It’s also an older train model. It was only just in the early 2000’s or very late 90’s that trains even started to have outlets by the seats, and the newer IC3 train sets are from that time period. People just didn’t really need outlets out in public all that much back in those days, so it was honestly amazing to even see outlets on trains back then. Smartphones didn’t exist yet and people were rocking a Nokia 3310. On trains today we take outlets for granted and think the older trains have really odd placement of the outlet if there is one, but when that older train was new, it was indeed revolutionary.
I haven’t been on the IC3 myself but I have traveled a fair bit with Öresundståg which is a similar model (I used to commute between Malmö and Copenhagen) and I’ve also been traveling a fair bit with the Swedish Regina trains that were introduced I think in the very early 2000’s, maybe late 90’s and they too have the outlet up by the overhead luggage racks
It's not fun with a dangling laptop charger 🤪
@@NonstopEurotrip Indeed! I wish they’d modernize it a bit even on the older train models so the outlets fits the needs of today where more people need to charge phones randomly or work on a laptop on the train
I was told they are so sited for the benefit of the cleaners, which would make sense.
@@ReyOfLight The IC3 was designed in the late 1980s and was one of the first trains to feature outlets, aimed at Laptop users then. One reason the outlet is up there is because the wiring for the overhead lamps is also up there. So you only needed one conduit.
Happy 2023 bro.
You too 😃
Great trip. I'm curious, is this route the longest IC3 route? Or there's another route which is longer? Also I'm curious the sleeper train from Germany to Sweden via Denmark use that viaduct?
This is the longest, I believe!
And yes both the Sleepertrain operators usually use the viaduct, though they’re passing it at around 2am going north
Ever since DSB stopped running to Frederikshavn in the north of Denmark back in 2018 iirc then yes this has been the longest DSB route in terms of travel time.
I cannot believe they are still using diesel on this line. It's incomprehensible.
Great job as always!
I know, right? At least it's being sorted very soon 🙂
The route should be fully electrified according to openrailwaymap. Quite a shame...
The reason for the diesel trains on the line is due to both the low number of Litra ER trains DSB has, and also the fact that the MF/IC3 trains are already installed with the PZB system needed to run trains in Germany. Installing PZB on ER´s would cost alot of money instead of running MF/IC3 for the last couple of years before either new trains that can drive the route for another 20-40 years arrive, or until the tunnel connection opens that will most definitely warrant a replacement to the MF/IC3 to an ICE T or something like that.
@@ewanrpj3512 the talgo+vectrons will run through the tunnel
@@stefanhaustein indeed. Only for another 3/4 months tho
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Feliz ano novo!
17:06 they are not loading the whole train into the ferry anymore?
Not for 4 years now
It is stupid to have the power outlet up top, but at least they look happy! 😀
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Bonus points for use of the word "plethora" :)
I try my best...
6:24 small note, the route from Hamburg is much straighter towards Neumünster. Not curved west as shown.
However, it is curved west. The straight route to Neumünster is not used by any trains other than the AKN.
That viaduct is amazing! Another one to add to the bucket list. Sigh. That list gets longer with every video you release and I'm not knocking anything off it.
I'm so sorry. Next week isn't going to be good for your Wallet either I'm afraid 😳😅
As a pre-teen I lived on the island of Sylt on the North Sea coast of Germany, right by the Danish border, and went to a boarding school in Ploen, south-east of Kiel. There was a special train to take us kids back to school at the start of term and I recall first traversing the Rendsburg viaduct in January 1958. It created a lasting impression. Maybe that's why I subsequently became an engineer. Thanks for the excellent video that brought back those memories from 65 years ago. And Hamburg was my favourite city then, too.
Which is your favourite locomotive?Mine is RE 460 in SBB.
I am Japanese.
My favorite locomotive is serie 251 No.4 in RENFE.
Because it looks like Japanese locomotive EF66 No27.
Taurus probably 🤗
It's another small change besides the signals and catenary, Germany (and Sweden) has AC 16 Kw 2/3 hz, Denmark has AC 25 Kw 50 hz.
Not so much of an issue on a DMU 🤪
I think you mean 15 Kv 162/3 Hz
@@christophernoble6810 Yup should have know that since I was working on the railways :( The right currency is 15 Kv 16 2/3 Hz for the railways in Germany, Sweden and Norway. Finland has broad gauge 1524 mm and AC 25 Kv 50 Hz as in Denmark - not that broad gauge :).
you would not believe the hassle there was on the Padborg border station (I worked there) when we became electric. Electrically pulled freight trains from Germany had to take down the pantograph before getting into the wires w. danish current, and the other way equally. roll in on the inertia. passenger trains ran on diesel so no problem there.
@@zymelin21 It was the same thing at the border between Schweiz and Italy at Gotthatd linien to Milano. Schweiz 16 Kv AC and Italy 3 Kv DC.
Thanks for this - we're planning to make the trip in June this year. Then onwards from Copenhagen to Gothenburg and Gothenburg to Oslo. Don't suppose you've covered these yet? If not, there's an idea for you!
I've done both trips but not filmed the videos yet! Glad you enjoyed this one 😊
@@NonstopEurotrip - any tips for the other two trips please? I've booked the Hamburg to Copenhagen trains early following your advice about how booked up they can get
@@garrysmith3885 between Malmö and Gothenburg, the train X2 run by SJ are preferable. The regional direct trains from Copenhagen to Gothenburg aren't really suitable for so long journeys.
The SJ trains have *dynamic* prices, like airlines. If you buy in advance, typically less expensive than the regional Øresund-trains, despite the higher comfort standard.
Be careful when booking the journey Gothenburg-Oslo. There are more buses than trains and only 2-3 direct trains per day. There is also an itenary via Karlstad. Takes ~6 hours instead of three and a half, but is typically less expensive and offers, contrary to the direct trains, also 1st class.
It is less expensive to find hotel in Malmö than in Copenhagen, so I would have made Hamburg-Copenhagen-Malmö one day and Malmö-Oslo another day.
You might discover that Malmö-Oslo can be made via an eastern detour to Hallsberg or Katrineholm instead of Gothenburg. Due to SJ's dynamic pricing, this is sometimes cheaper.
(If you hadn't already booked the first leg, "Super Sparpreis Europa" from the German railways is almost always the best value for money.)
@@jmolofsson - thank you so much, that's really helpful advice.
Can You Make an Øresundståg Video From Copenhagen to Gothenburg (Göteborg)
I've filmed it already, will release soon ish ☺️
I still don't get why the only stop of these trains in Germany (besides Hamburg) is in Schleswig, a city of only 25K people. In my opinion it would make far more sense to stop in Flensburg (approx. 90K) and/or Neumünster (approx. 100K)... even Rendsburg is slightly bigger than Schleswig.
Good point!
The whole route has been eletrified but they still run dissel trains. Is it because Germany and Denmark use different voltage of the overhead powerlines?
Yes, but that's now solved.
This trainsets are called "Gummilippe" over here.
Nice scenery
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My wife, as you may recall, previously very complimentary about your theme music, does not like your current choice of tune...
Impressive viaduct. Train less so. 5 hours without even a sandwich or dare I say it a Danish pastry us a bit meh.. Pity in a way the train ferry has bit the dust in the name of progress & efficiency. The romance of old time train travel..
Old times train travel is quite like the "jet set"; in other words, when only rich people would fly jet airliners. Then, somewhere in the 1970s or 1980s, the USA passed an act that opened up the passenger airline market, and package holidays became popular, and now every man and his second cousin travels by air.
Trains went through the same process. We associate the romanticism with luxury train travel such as the Orient Express; open air commuter carriages in the 19th century weren't particularly romantic.
So yes, the romanticism was there in the past, but mostly for those who could afford it.
Having said all that, travelling for five hours with no option to buy a snack is crazy. No wonder those Scandinavians are all thin.
Which was her favourite music Mark?
At least they're trying to improve the train and service. Fully electric will be a big step forward
Very cool!
Hamburg HBf is impressive, should be still the 2nd busiest station in Europe?
As mentioned in the video.
Boa tarde seu vídeo ficou muito bom, faz mais vídeos pelos países scandinavios, Dinamarca, Suécia, Noruega e Finlândia ou até mesmo Islândia.
Thank you! I have more coming up, but there's no trains in Iceland 😂
Much better designed interiors than British trains despite their age. Pack their like sardines with the loading guage as an e. 👍🏻🏴 If you want people to travel by train crowded and cramped interiors are not the way to attract people who have more disposable income.
Complete agree with you 🤗
@@NonstopEurotrip Apparently in the U.K. it’s a combination of Government Department and private profits .
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15:08 The whole island of Fyn has a population around 500.000 not Odense
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At the 17 minute mark you would have filmed my local station if you didn't cut the video just before passing. :-)
I'm sorry 😔🥲
The train you are riding is the TRD594 In spain
This is in Denmark
@@NonstopEurotrip I know it was only a fun fact
You could do a video on the same design trains used in Israel....
I could.........
Dette tog er bygget på Danmarks sidste tog fabrik Scandia som senere blev til ABB Scandia som igen blev til Adtranz og sluttede med at blive købt af Bombardier ialt blev der fremstillet 92 togsæt til DSB _ 38 togsæt ti SJ _ 40 togsæt til Israel.
Indeed!
Fine video, except you write Odense has a population of about 500 k people. Wrong, that's the population of the island of Funen. The city of Odense has a population of about 180 k people...
Thanks for the information ☺️ℹ️
Very nice video! Subscribe your channel... Greetings from Italy!
Thanks for the sub! 👌🏻
is the train crowded?
That very much depends. Off peak week days it's not that bad
Do they asked for passport? When u arrive to Denmark?
Yes
We want to go to from Hamburg to Tønder still do they control ? @@NonstopEurotrip
@@yusufsezginsartikThey do, but as long as you have a EU passport everything should be fine
@@robsch21 bro believe me if i had EU Passport i would not even asked.
@@yusufsezginsartik Oh well then I guess you should check beforehand if you can enter Denmark with your passport maybe you need a visa idk.
If the kiosk shown at the start doesn't have the jingle:
Call me Mr. Clou
That's my name
That name again
Is Mr. Clou
That's just a missed opportunity.
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what is the title of this video? - I guess I see a horrible google translation to Danish or something..
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Thanks. Now I see the original title.
Sure that viaduct is impressive and stunning, but seems like an awful lot of waste in both time and money. Cannot the line simply be straightened out?
Obviously 100+ ago this was the best solution 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip Well, obviously, but doesn't seem to fit today's needs that well :D
@@ptterz why?
@@NonstopEurotrip For faster service, and I'm assuming that massive bridge is not so cheap to maintain in secure condition. They could also use the extra space for something else.
3:43 goofy aah train
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