I may be Fields' last true believer & I don't think he deserves much credit in this game. It's more of an overall thing. He & Lamar are far & away the 2 most undeservedly blasted QBs. For Lamar, 3 years of Greg Roman followed by his coaches calling RPOs in the playoffs. RPOs are basically "{QB's Choice." So calling them is like the QB turning to his coaches & saying "we're playing the Chiefs in the playoffs. You had a week to prepare. What Great Plays did you draw up for the offense" & having those coaches shrug & say "I dunno." They didn't try allowing Lamar to run the offense this way for one drive or a quarter in the regular or preseason yet somehow the same fan base that thinks Ken Dorsey was a war criminal for forcing Josh Allen to play hero-ball a few times a game expected Lamar to carry that burden an Entire Game. An Entire Playoff Game. Against the _Chiefs_ & he *almost won!!!* With Fields he could do no right. Reporters asked Eberflus about his Questionable New Play-calls, then Fields called them out publicly. Fearing exposure the team stopped calling those plays for 4 weeks & Fields _proved it was _*_ONLY_*_ the play-calling* holding him back_ by averaging 31 points over those 4 games. I don't think Joe Burrow ever averaged that with his élite WR trio! The Bears lost the last 3 of those games setting a record for most points scored in 3 consecutive losses. & the fans said "this just proves that *_Fields_* can't win games." So here he is now on a slightly better offensive roster scoring less. Yes, I'm aware that Arthur Smith has him on a tight "no TO diet" so to speak & that it's holding Fields back a ton. But for crying out loud he averaged 17.3 points on a team that was actively sabotaging him! So what has he done with the Steelers that's worth praising? Absolutely nothing! He's doing less of what he did well before only media memes believe he's only playing well now. They still don't reflect reality. Fields is verbally agreeing publicly with all of this so people think "yeah, he thinks so too." That's infantile wish-fulfillment belief. Wtf *COULD* he say? Nothing that wouldn't get him benched for Russ. That's just it his hands are tied, or rather cuffed by these idiot coaches who are judging him based on media memes & not reality. Those passes to Pickens that most got annulled by penalties were thrown out of structure, on the run & are 100% impossible to defend. They arc over the heads of defenders too high to touch & land in the hands of covered receivers in stride. Same as he did in college, & in a way that transfers to the NFL. He still throws those. The Steelers: "we can't have you Make Passes. Passes could get intercepted." They can't tell the difference between his passes & Zach Wilson's. The Bears made it so he only could choose between running all game, get sacked or risk throwing INTs. It takes work to force him into those mere choices. Yet somehow, without trying, Smith is managing it.
@@ChewsCarefullyfrom a production standpoint you are correct from an actual QB play perspective you are completely wrong. He is a vastly improved QB in both Pocket Presence and how he is seeing the field. Still has a ways to go but he has improved.
@@VinegarAndSaltedFries & how do you measure that? He's getting sacked almost every time the defenders come through now. With the Bears it was less than half the time. That's pocket presence. It's visibly getting worse. When the Bears first started asking him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays, the reason we all knew it was a play-call was that he'd never once missed an open receiver before. Certainly never stopped himself passing mid-play. At the start of this season, people who did QB breakdowns pointed out plenty of places where he simply didn't throw the ball to open receivers. I strongly doubt that the Steelers are asking him to do that. It's odd of you to single out exactly things that are _noticeably_ worse in his play as examples when those are *exactly* what's been worse. There are almost no Great Scrambles by him in weeks & lots of times where he hesitates to throw the ball.
He's been playing far better than he ever did in Chicago, but there's no denying he's still making a lot of boneheaded decisions that a fourth year veteran should not be making ie running 15 yards backwards to extend a play but give up a sack in the process. If he can find that balance of scrambling and pocket mastery he'll be exciting for fantasy and real football, but we've been saying that about him his whole career.
@@kolr2873 Maybe because I've coached I see things others miss. But I think there's overt clues people missed or ignored. Fields called out his own coaches publicly. Twice. From what I've heard & what he himself says, he treats everyone with deference & respect, & when his coaches say "do this" he does it. So what did it take for him to do that, _publicly?_ & the reactions from everyone on the team were telling: if any QB on any team even a back-up for the Jets says "my own coaches are confusing me" & the HC nor the GM who hired that HC don't investigate _or address this in any way,_ am I going too far by suggesting this is intentional or that they're the ones responsible? Because if not, how inept do they all have to be for it to get to this point? But they also changed the plays called for the next 4 weeks or 'until that blew over' & that's exactly what happened, people forgot about it. But I remember how people reacted *at the time.* The problem with statements such as "he makes these mistakes" is that we immediately tend to believe them without question. But Fields never did _ANY_ of the negative things he's accused of in college & he didn't 'Suddenly Develop" these tendencies in the NFL either. These things started in '22. Did you know he set accuracy records in college? Someone told me that after I showed them this wonderful video that spliced his highlights with Caleb's together. When seen after each other it's clear Fields is better than him. At absolutely everything. & the main thing was passing. Fields launches low-flying missiles, not spirals that hang in the air forever giving defenders a chance to make plays on them. His passes sail over the heads of defenders too high to touch yet land in the hands of his covered receivers without having to reach for them. Because everyone was repeating memes they dismissed this only because it went against the memes & people said "his receiving corps carried him." How do receivers alter the trajectory of the football once thrown? The entire points of accuracy is that they can't, ergo it's the QB's doing. He hits them In Stride. So the memes make no sense making this a perfect example of why everyone should tune them out. He _kept doing this in the NFL!_ Only this is where his horrible luck comes in because _this_ ruclips.net/video/glpaya0xz-4/видео.html is what his receivers did to/with passes that (would have) hit them in the hands: fall down on the route, turn the wrong way, or in the case of his #1 WR for 2 years, swat at the ball as if he thought it was a swarm of attacking bees. Right into the hands of the opposing teams. Drops happen. These were special (& I even heard later that 2 INTs were his coaches screaming "snap the ball they have 12 men on the field" & being wrong both times, both resulting in INTs. Talent can never account for luck). So he starts with that ineptitude, then gets a coach who asks him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays. I don't know how they framed that 'request' (when your coaches suggest something it ain't a request) but he _did it!_ & at the time fans knew it was a coaching play-call because they said "the Bears had to call those plays in order to simplify the offense for him because media memes tell us he can't read defenses." Not only is it not simpler to stop mid=play to read a jersey # & try to remember if it's one you're allowed to throw to but he actually reads defenses at an elevated Level which was proved with stats ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html. The bad footwork _may have come in_ in '21 because Nagy The Unimaginative thought "Aaron Rodgers is the best QB & has bad footwork. Throw like him, Justin." But his receivers (first link above) were incompetent, dropped passes in direct relation to how accurate they were, his next coach asked him to not throw to open receivers & he did this, & no one on the team cared that coaches were not telling him what they wanted him to do on plays or "are confusing me" which is vague, but we need to understand that if he was more specific or named names, he'd be out of the league as no other coaches would ever want him speaking about them. But *all these memes were based on the assumptions that **_he_** lacks competence.* & the only evidence people have is memes: _HE_ holds onto the ball too long (no, that came after his coaches asked him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays) & he can't read defenses which was proven to be a lie from the get-go. & now he has become those things to an extent on the Bears. They've convinced him that he's trying to do too much. So how is he reacting? By doing absolutely nothing more than exactly what they tell him to do. & it's killing his ability to drive the ball downfield. The Steelers believe all the negative memes & are coaching to that mentally-challenged 4th year QB they imagine him to be, not the élite passer, decision & play-maker that he is. Can you _tell_ it's bothering me? This is Sam Darnold only a little worse. Because Sam Was Confused: but they've convinced Fields that They Are Sure this is the way for him & they're wrong. But they're sticking to it. So expect more mediocrity because he will not go beyond what they tell him *_because_** they're telling him* not to.
I called the sam darnold thing when he was still on the bench with the 49ers, i said vikings ymwould take him, not resign kirk and draft Mccarthy and the vikings would be good. My vikings buddy thought i was crazy until each started happening. I got a text this week saying you were right (again)
The Cardinals: is it just me or is Kyler not playing? Like he's dogging it, doing as little as possible. After that first drive he checked out & outside of week 2 that first drive is the only time I *haven't seen* him look like he's tanking for better draft picks. Speaking of which, both Hurts & Lawrence are maybe you know, playing to get their HCs fired? Has anyone thought of that? This is all sad because James Conner, Saquon & BTJ are really suffering for all this, not to mention the Jags' team as a whole. While the Ravens were better at everything this week we still saw them play at about 75% efficiency to start the 2nd half, & Monken still calls plays in the middle of the game like he misplaced all but the front sheet of his play-calling binder, calling only very basic plays. Did anyone figure out what happened to the Bucs last week? Because saying "Payton always beats Bowles" doesn't seem as certain as rock beating scissors. The Commanders are slicing through opposing defenses so easily it lends credence to those who insist the NFL is rigged. It was like watching Bowfinger (look it up if you need to), with the Cardinals missing tackles or dragging opponents forwards while tackling. Never stopping them. The Commanders have a terrible D too which Conner proved all game. But that just makes the crappy game Kyler had that much harder to explain. Glad Kliff Kingsbury has become good at play-calling though. _Last week's_ game was a pleasure because of it *despite* the truly weak Bengals D which wasn't much better than the Cards'.
No QB is purposefully playing bad to get their head coach fired. If you're a QB and you don't like your head coach for whatever reason, there are plenty of ways to have that kind of sentiment leak into the media without your career performance suffering or your name individually attached to it.
@@fadya.3660 Mac Jones. But no, I'm only half-serious. Except... remember week 2 or 3 all any Eagles had to do was move & it would have drawn a penalty & given them a 1st down, but none of them did it? _That_ is the kind of thing that happens when people have underlying subconscious hate for the person or people they work for, a kind of _"someone ELSE_ can do it" attitude where nothing gets done because everyone is thinking it. As for the QBs personally, both have high amounts of guaranteed $ coming their way. Since no team has any mechanism in place for players that have problems with their coaches, the options for expressing grievances are non-existent. People aren't always rational. But this would be in a way. "I can either play badly on purpose a little until they get fired or have to play badly longer under their terrible play-calling." I'm not saying that _is_ what they're thinking. But in both cases the p[lay-calling had been terrible first, _then_ the players & QB got worse *as the play-calling **_stayed not got_** worse.* So, there's something to what I'm saying.
Thank you for giving Fields credit. Josh and Hayden on Underdog were harsh on him. Made it seem like they didnt watch the game at all
I may be Fields' last true believer & I don't think he deserves much credit in this game. It's more of an overall thing. He & Lamar are far & away the 2 most undeservedly blasted QBs. For Lamar, 3 years of Greg Roman followed by his coaches calling RPOs in the playoffs.
RPOs are basically "{QB's Choice." So calling them is like the QB turning to his coaches & saying "we're playing the Chiefs in the playoffs. You had a week to prepare. What Great Plays did you draw up for the offense" & having those coaches shrug & say "I dunno."
They didn't try allowing Lamar to run the offense this way for one drive or a quarter in the regular or preseason yet somehow the same fan base that thinks Ken Dorsey was a war criminal for forcing Josh Allen to play hero-ball a few times a game expected Lamar to carry that burden an Entire Game. An Entire Playoff Game. Against the _Chiefs_
& he *almost won!!!*
With Fields he could do no right. Reporters asked Eberflus about his Questionable New Play-calls, then Fields called them out publicly. Fearing exposure the team stopped calling those plays for 4 weeks & Fields _proved it was _*_ONLY_*_ the play-calling* holding him back_ by averaging 31 points over those 4 games. I don't think Joe Burrow ever averaged that with his élite WR trio!
The Bears lost the last 3 of those games setting a record for most points scored in 3 consecutive losses. & the fans said "this just proves that *_Fields_* can't win games."
So here he is now on a slightly better offensive roster scoring less. Yes, I'm aware that Arthur Smith has him on a tight "no TO diet" so to speak & that it's holding Fields back a ton. But for crying out loud he averaged 17.3 points on a team that was actively sabotaging him! So what has he done with the Steelers that's worth praising?
Absolutely nothing! He's doing less of what he did well before only media memes believe he's only playing well now. They still don't reflect reality.
Fields is verbally agreeing publicly with all of this so people think "yeah, he thinks so too." That's infantile wish-fulfillment belief. Wtf *COULD* he say? Nothing that wouldn't get him benched for Russ. That's just it his hands are tied, or rather cuffed by these idiot coaches who are judging him based on media memes & not reality.
Those passes to Pickens that most got annulled by penalties were thrown out of structure, on the run & are 100% impossible to defend. They arc over the heads of defenders too high to touch & land in the hands of covered receivers in stride. Same as he did in college, & in a way that transfers to the NFL. He still throws those.
The Steelers: "we can't have you Make Passes. Passes could get intercepted." They can't tell the difference between his passes & Zach Wilson's.
The Bears made it so he only could choose between running all game, get sacked or risk throwing INTs. It takes work to force him into those mere choices. Yet somehow, without trying, Smith is managing it.
@@ChewsCarefullyfrom a production standpoint you are correct from an actual QB play perspective you are completely wrong. He is a vastly improved QB in both Pocket Presence and how he is seeing the field. Still has a ways to go but he has improved.
@@VinegarAndSaltedFries & how do you measure that? He's getting sacked almost every time the defenders come through now. With the Bears it was less than half the time. That's pocket presence. It's visibly getting worse.
When the Bears first started asking him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays, the reason we all knew it was a play-call was that he'd never once missed an open receiver before. Certainly never stopped himself passing mid-play.
At the start of this season, people who did QB breakdowns pointed out plenty of places where he simply didn't throw the ball to open receivers. I strongly doubt that the Steelers are asking him to do that.
It's odd of you to single out exactly things that are _noticeably_ worse in his play as examples when those are *exactly* what's been worse. There are almost no Great Scrambles by him in weeks & lots of times where he hesitates to throw the ball.
He's been playing far better than he ever did in Chicago, but there's no denying he's still making a lot of boneheaded decisions that a fourth year veteran should not be making ie running 15 yards backwards to extend a play but give up a sack in the process. If he can find that balance of scrambling and pocket mastery he'll be exciting for fantasy and real football, but we've been saying that about him his whole career.
@@kolr2873 Maybe because I've coached I see things others miss. But I think there's overt clues people missed or ignored. Fields called out his own coaches publicly. Twice. From what I've heard & what he himself says, he treats everyone with deference & respect, & when his coaches say "do this" he does it.
So what did it take for him to do that, _publicly?_ & the reactions from everyone on the team were telling: if any QB on any team even a back-up for the Jets says "my own coaches are confusing me" & the HC nor the GM who hired that HC don't investigate _or address this in any way,_ am I going too far by suggesting this is intentional or that they're the ones responsible? Because if not, how inept do they all have to be for it to get to this point?
But they also changed the plays called for the next 4 weeks or 'until that blew over' & that's exactly what happened, people forgot about it.
But I remember how people reacted *at the time.* The problem with statements such as "he makes these mistakes" is that we immediately tend to believe them without question. But Fields never did _ANY_ of the negative things he's accused of in college & he didn't 'Suddenly Develop" these tendencies in the NFL either. These things started in '22.
Did you know he set accuracy records in college? Someone told me that after I showed them this wonderful video that spliced his highlights with Caleb's together. When seen after each other it's clear Fields is better than him. At absolutely everything. & the main thing was passing. Fields launches low-flying missiles, not spirals that hang in the air forever giving defenders a chance to make plays on them.
His passes sail over the heads of defenders too high to touch yet land in the hands of his covered receivers without having to reach for them. Because everyone was repeating memes they dismissed this only because it went against the memes & people said "his receiving corps carried him." How do receivers alter the trajectory of the football once thrown? The entire points of accuracy is that they can't, ergo it's the QB's doing. He hits them In Stride. So the memes make no sense making this a perfect example of why everyone should tune them out.
He _kept doing this in the NFL!_ Only this is where his horrible luck comes in because _this_ ruclips.net/video/glpaya0xz-4/видео.html is what his receivers did to/with passes that (would have) hit them in the hands: fall down on the route, turn the wrong way, or in the case of his #1 WR for 2 years, swat at the ball as if he thought it was a swarm of attacking bees. Right into the hands of the opposing teams.
Drops happen. These were special (& I even heard later that 2 INTs were his coaches screaming "snap the ball they have 12 men on the field" & being wrong both times, both resulting in INTs. Talent can never account for luck).
So he starts with that ineptitude, then gets a coach who asks him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays. I don't know how they framed that 'request' (when your coaches suggest something it ain't a request) but he _did it!_ & at the time fans knew it was a coaching play-call because they said "the Bears had to call those plays in order to simplify the offense for him because media memes tell us he can't read defenses."
Not only is it not simpler to stop mid=play to read a jersey # & try to remember if it's one you're allowed to throw to but he actually reads defenses at an elevated Level which was proved with stats ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html.
The bad footwork _may have come in_ in '21 because Nagy The Unimaginative thought "Aaron Rodgers is the best QB & has bad footwork. Throw like him, Justin." But his receivers (first link above) were incompetent, dropped passes in direct relation to how accurate they were, his next coach asked him to not throw to open receivers & he did this, & no one on the team cared that coaches were not telling him what they wanted him to do on plays or "are confusing me" which is vague, but we need to understand that if he was more specific or named names, he'd be out of the league as no other coaches would ever want him speaking about them.
But *all these memes were based on the assumptions that **_he_** lacks competence.* & the only evidence people have is memes: _HE_ holds onto the ball too long (no, that came after his coaches asked him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays) & he can't read defenses which was proven to be a lie from the get-go.
& now he has become those things to an extent on the Bears. They've convinced him that he's trying to do too much. So how is he reacting?
By doing absolutely nothing more than exactly what they tell him to do. & it's killing his ability to drive the ball downfield. The Steelers believe all the negative memes & are coaching to that mentally-challenged 4th year QB they imagine him to be, not the élite passer, decision & play-maker that he is.
Can you _tell_ it's bothering me? This is Sam Darnold only a little worse. Because Sam Was Confused: but they've convinced Fields that They Are Sure this is the way for him & they're wrong. But they're sticking to it.
So expect more mediocrity because he will not go beyond what they tell him *_because_** they're telling him* not to.
You woke the dog? What? The wife quit her job already?
Of course the Chefs and the Ref and win the Superbowl. It's already scripted.
Im about to lose to my matchup to my cousin because he started Chase Brown and Dandre Swift...smh
i have a theory about the Chargers: God thinks they're the Clippers because of the "LAC".
Id like to know whats up w the cardnials play calling i mean you're down big and yet yall are still running the ball. A concerned kyler murray owner.
Going against Henry in both my leagues. As long as Pollard doesn't go off, also facing him in both leagues, I can still squeak em out.
Mark andrews is suffering , I just bought low on him until they figured it out
Watch the Chiefs get Adams some how
The Raiders trading to a division rival? Not happening.
The Chiefs defense held Henry to 3.5 ypc.
Is Jauan Jennings the new WR1 in SF?
I called the sam darnold thing when he was still on the bench with the 49ers, i said vikings ymwould take him, not resign kirk and draft Mccarthy and the vikings would be good. My vikings buddy thought i was crazy until each started happening. I got a text this week saying you were right (again)
I'm a 49ers fan and was high on Sam being with us and going somewhere else and being a guy.
Thank you Matt and Andy!
What did Rice do to earn 4pts in Yahoo Fantasy Football?
Maybe forcing that fumble lol
The Cardinals: is it just me or is Kyler not playing? Like he's dogging it, doing as little as possible. After that first drive he checked out & outside of week 2 that first drive is the only time I *haven't seen* him look like he's tanking for better draft picks.
Speaking of which, both Hurts & Lawrence are maybe you know, playing to get their HCs fired? Has anyone thought of that? This is all sad because James Conner, Saquon & BTJ are really suffering for all this, not to mention the Jags' team as a whole.
While the Ravens were better at everything this week we still saw them play at about 75% efficiency to start the 2nd half, & Monken still calls plays in the middle of the game like he misplaced all but the front sheet of his play-calling binder, calling only very basic plays. Did anyone figure out what happened to the Bucs last week? Because saying "Payton always beats Bowles" doesn't seem as certain as rock beating scissors.
The Commanders are slicing through opposing defenses so easily it lends credence to those who insist the NFL is rigged. It was like watching Bowfinger (look it up if you need to), with the Cardinals missing tackles or dragging opponents forwards while tackling. Never stopping them. The Commanders have a terrible D too which Conner proved all game. But that just makes the crappy game Kyler had that much harder to explain.
Glad Kliff Kingsbury has become good at play-calling though. _Last week's_ game was a pleasure because of it *despite* the truly weak Bengals D which wasn't much better than the Cards'.
No QB is purposefully playing bad to get their head coach fired. If you're a QB and you don't like your head coach for whatever reason, there are plenty of ways to have that kind of sentiment leak into the media without your career performance suffering or your name individually attached to it.
@@fadya.3660 Mac Jones. But no, I'm only half-serious. Except... remember week 2 or 3 all any Eagles had to do was move & it would have drawn a penalty & given them a 1st down, but none of them did it?
_That_ is the kind of thing that happens when people have underlying subconscious hate for the person or people they work for, a kind of _"someone ELSE_ can do it" attitude where nothing gets done because everyone is thinking it.
As for the QBs personally, both have high amounts of guaranteed $ coming their way. Since no team has any mechanism in place for players that have problems with their coaches, the options for expressing grievances are non-existent.
People aren't always rational. But this would be in a way. "I can either play badly on purpose a little until they get fired or have to play badly longer under their terrible play-calling." I'm not saying that _is_ what they're thinking.
But in both cases the p[lay-calling had been terrible first, _then_ the players & QB got worse *as the play-calling **_stayed not got_** worse.* So, there's something to what I'm saying.
@@ChewsCarefully Yes you are. Yes you are saying it. You just said it. But @fadya.3660 is right. You aren't.