Very interesting review. I've had a dual motor Polestar 2 for over two years and I absolutely adore it. It has the nappa leather interior and is such a lovely place to be. I'm planning on owning it for another three years at least, there is just nothing that compares in my opinion (once V2G is more commonplace I'll likely replace it). Your comments on the handling are interesting, I've found it's quite engaging at 7 or 8 tenths, but when you get to 9 or 10 tenths it starts to understeer and it's not as enjoyable. At 6 tenths or below it just goes where it's pointed with no fuss, but not much engagement either. Also, if you want to run the A/C or stereo etc while you're not sitting in the driver's seat, just hit the play/pause button in the centre of the volume knob, it wakes the car up for half an hour. As for insurance, mine is less than half what you mentioned, and that's for a dual motor. I completely agree with your comments on who should own this as well (and it applies for all EV's) - if you own your own home, you have solar, and you have a wall charger, it's the easiest experience in the world. I have those things and haven't used a public charger for nearly two years. I also do about 95% of my charging off solar, so it's effectively free. That combined with non-existent servicing costs and excellent reliability means I spend very little on the car. For someone not in this situation however, I would not recommend an EV.
Brought a new Corolla in 2011 19k driveway. One set of brakes and 2 sets of tyres. Still worth 8 grand so that’s less than a grand a year in depreciation. I didn’t even know I was a Greeny.
I love my PS2. I definitely recommend to get one with the plus and pilot packages as they make a huge difference. IMHO the autopilot they add is one of the best in the industry, the panoramic roof looks spectacular and the upgraded audio system is much better than the standard one. Please note that the car is quite small overall and it is not spacious inside at all. I like it as it feels sporty, but it is not for everybody. The same with the suspension. I personally love how this car drives. It is a nice middle ground between being a good daily and being sporty, but for some people it might be too punishing on bad roads.
Polestar batteries are not $50k or a single unit. They can replace single modules if they fail & even the original MY22 will have a battery warranty guaranteed till 2030
50k is for new battery. Car has 8 years or 160 000 km warranty before you need to pay that sum. So you are safe from warranty perspective there. In EVs if battery fails it fails quite fast in first 2 years. So in general the possible issue after the warranty is degradation. Because if there is cell failure in battery you can replace module not complete battery and that is not neither close to 50k, but much less. If they degrade as so far about 1-2 % a year. After 15-20 years you will still have 80% of a range left. However Volvo/Polestar is looking to offer refurbished batteries outside warranty cases. But for sure electric car is not for everyone. For info Polestar 2 is build on the same platform as XC40. So they share the same drivetrain as EX40.
Before anything else, I own stock in Polestar (I want them to do well). I managed to really anger an EV owner, by making the absolute horrible comment that my Volvo V50 1.6D Drive E is cheaper to run than a Polestar 2, at least here in Sweden. Factoring in the cost of public charging vs Diesel, 50 liters gets me 1080kms of range for about the same cost as a full charge of Polestar 2, the Polestar 2 gets about half that in real world range. My V50 didn’t cost over 600 000 SEK and hasn’t really depreciated much. Then there is the cost of tire wear, probably largely offsetting the maintenance costs of my V50 alone. The V50 is cheap to tax, fairly cheap to insure unlike the Polestar 2 (I’m not sure the Polestar 2 has yearly vehicle tax in Sweden as EV’s might be exempt). I was blocked.. The thing with EV’s, is that most people will switch to EV’s when it makes economic sense to do so (right now it doesn’t) and I don’t think forcing a change by facing out combustion cars by force, is an acceptable way to go.
I can't afford a new car, but I would accept Governments Taxing people into EV's if passenger cars produced say 50% of the worlds CO2 emissions. But cars make less than 10% of human CO2 output, so forcing us all into EV's isn't going to solve the climate crisis anyway. Hence, for now, I agree with you.
@ also, alternative fuels is an area with a high amount of development (and potential). If I not miss remembering, the majority of CO2 emissions is from producing electricity, if everyone is switching to EV’s we are going to need a lot more electricity.. Fun fact, the Swedish government is blowing a huge amount of our tax money to fraudulent companies (like Northvolt) that promise unrealistic things, like green steel.. To produce green steel they would need a rough equivalent of the capital of Finland or more, in other words a decently sized nuclear power plant, to make steel no one is going to buy because it is too expensive. The Gothenburg Kommun for example chose to import components for the new “Hissings” bridge from Spain, components made with low quality Spanish steel, in order word’s Swedish steel is already to expensive for the people who paid an artist a ridiculous amount of money to make a Pink/Purple rock statue… “Just build more wind turbines”, doesn’t work like that mate. When the wind doesn’t blow there is a shortage of power, when it blows it is in such access that a relative of mine who has wind turbines had to pay to offload that electricity.. I’m not kidding. He has had those wind turbines for many years and I don’t think this has ever happened before.. Politicians are dumb.
good old sweden. Lived on Gamla Brogatan right near Hotorget and then Sickla Kaj ( for the skiing ) for a year. Never drove a car the public transport was soooooo good. I mean really really good.
You make some good points, although I've seen evidence that EV tyre wear issues have been significantly overblown. Does a heavier vehicle wear slightly faster? Yes. However, the driving style has significantly more impact on tyre wear. If you drive a V50 like a maniac, you'll definitely wear the tyres faster than a Polestar driven normally. I suspect most of the noise around EV wear is due to many new owners develop a bit of a lead foot at first, seeing as acceleration is a bit of an EV party piece, and by the time they start driving it like their old car, they don't realise they've already halved the life of their tyres, so when they need changing early owners are shocked because they only remember driving normally and blame the car. I agree with everything else, though, especially the fact that if you need to primarily use public chargers, instead of at home or work, EVs are objectively terrible compared to ICE.
So my 2001 Corolla with 364,000km which cost me $4k to buy and preventative maintain.... cost bare minimum to insure, cheap to feed, fun to drive, helping the environment endlessly... might be a more cost effective option 🤔
2006 corolla owner here. Bought for $4.2k. Twice a year oil change only. Petrol about $80 a week. Tyres once every 2 odd years. And other maintainable items. I will be keeping it for a while as my daily.
@lukeclifton4392 I have a pajero with 400k My brothers has 500k My Holden has 450k And I even have an Audi with 300k Doing more for the environment than Any ev
I just did a quote for a new car we're buying and the electric version of the same car. The insurance basically doubled, this is 2 people over 50, clean driving history, in country NSW. So extra tyres, the battery cost, and that insurance cost, shows that, outside of leasing perhaps, an EV is not necessarily the way to go just yet. Being 'bush', as in west of the Blue Mountains, does mean the charging infrastructure just isn't there yet, in terms of the road trips we love to do.
My car is a 2013 BMW 125i. If I get a quote on comprehensive insurance from RACV with agreed value of $11k, the policy is *$1920.* For a 2023 Polestar 2 with agreed value of $60k, the policy is *$1756.* For a 2024 Tesla Model 3 Long Range with agreed value of $60k the policy is *$1531.* Yes, I was surprised too.
@@sjwright2I somewhat understand the quote estimate for your 125i and the PoleStar… but the quote for the Model3 is underestimated!! I would put that down to the RACV and the Victorian governments push for EV’s and infrastructure🤷♂️🤔
You guys know how insurance works right. Each company has its own data on risk so their premiums differ as a result. Im tipping an 11 year old bmw has very expensive parts so any claim is significantly higher than many other cars. The agreed value actually pays a very small part of the premium, its cost of claims. Im an insurance analyst for a major company and if you're not shopping around then you are costing yourself money. EVs will get cheaper but in the early years most got written off bc companies didnt want to warrant the batteries after an accident. But data is much better now and batteries have been proven to be safe after accidents. Batteries are no longer the reason for write offs.
@@Steve-jx3mh That's interesting, thank you. Curious that my 2013 BMW 125i is so expensive to insure. I switched to third party only because paying $2,000 per year isn't worth it to get a measly $12,000 payout when an uninsured driver causes a collision with me.
Good review framing it from the perspective "does an EV work for your lifestyle" shame Jim had to repeat the myth that batteries need to be replaced after 10 years.
Only is the depreciation can be calculated correctly, which in the case of electric vehicles has shown to be more analogous the mobile phones than cars. Leasing has been incredibly favourable for the consumer at the expense of car dealerships, who get EVs back that are now only worth a fraction of the cost that they predicted 2-3 years ago.
Few years ago I saw EVs as the future of the automobile. Now I seem them as a kind of scam. As a concept they make a lot of sense. On paper they seem great. But in the real world, for the individual owner they're nothing but a giant hassle and even bigger financial risk.
As an EV owner of a few years now that risk has already paid for itself a few times over. My total insurance and servicing/maintenance costs are less than my fuel savings on my EV tariff. That includes paying for an aftermarket comprehensive warranty
Anything being pushed, promoted, encouraged and mandated by the government is a 100% scam. UK's car market is getting absolutely destroyed by the unhinged lunatics in parliament. Dealers now must ration and keep ICE cars undelivered before the end of the year to meet the insane EV sale targets.
100% correct. They are best to be avoided. They might only work for the odd person with excessive money to spend and have a life style that fit in with the EV draw backs. They're just a niche vehicle at best.
Are you buying cars as an investment? You're doing it wrong. I absolutely love driving my EV, i have solar and a battery at home with a charger. For us its the best thing we have ever done. I agree that they are not a great solution for everyone, but depreciation doesnt worry me one little bit. I got into it knowing it to be the case so i just dont care.
Hey Jim, what does a long motor and fuel system on a Toyota 200 series cost? Battery cost seems relative. I’ll probably stick with diesel Ute because I need to tow and carry stuff.
I've been in a few of these as Ubers. The interior feels really nicely put together, but rear headroom isn't brilliant for taller people in the back, and that C pillar means I really have to stoop when getting in to avoid banging my head on the roof. That being said, I prefer riding in the back of these over Teslas.
Polestar 2 long range owner myself found this review really good. But ei this car is not tesla copy. Instead a class if its own. They are investing in R n D and its improving each year. My 2024 model has no issues mentioned. Touchwood!
I've driven the first model for 2 years and I can relate to most of what you've said. Great car! However, one of the things I've found the most annoying wasn't mentioned: the emergency stop feature absolutely terrified me a couple of times. Just turning your car in a street with a bit of traffic or backup up on a really slight slope becomes a nightmare, as it just starts to panic and comes to an immediate halt, effectively making it much worse than it should be. Also the other safety features are too intrusive for my taste, as if my grand ma was sitting next to me and telling me to watch out all the time. As for the rest: best car I've ever driven.
As the owner of a modestly spec'd PS2, I wholeheartedly agree with the review, especially regarding the suspension commentary. Coming from an Audi S3, I would say the ride quality is no worse than my old car but with much improved steering precision (still a little lifeless, though... but far better than the Model 3). I’d say the biggest transition hurdle will be charging. Being able to charge from home will make a big difference-there’s so much satisfaction each time you can top up the car using solar or off-peak rates.
Tesla was never meant to be expensive which is why over the last few years they’ve dropped the car price significantly. Usually the only time costs are cut is because if the need to generate extra sales whereas Tesla’s sales are still strong.
It’s not that I don’t like EV’s it’s usually the owners (some) that I don’t like. Anyway I like the Polestar it looks good and a two motor model absolutely blitzed me off the lights one day. I wasn’t racing but I was driving a big black V8 Jeep and it seems to trigger some people to act that way. Very impressive and I had no chance of catching him even if I wanted to.
You did not mention Polestar battery comes with an 8 year warranty and the battery should last the life of the vehicle >15 years! You never mention the cost to replace an ICE engine or gearbox… You also save on maintenance costs, which you did not mention and only needs servicing every 2 years of which you really only change the filters and wipers etc. brakes hardly need changing due to regenerative braking. I pay closer to $1500 for insurance which is on par with ICE cars. Really like your channel but I felt some of the benefits of EV were missed.
Yep. I mate of mine bought a 200 landcruiser when it was not far out of warranty and the engine failed. 35K Yep $35,000 to repair. And from what I have heard this not an isolated occurrence.
I have to disagree with you when it comes to cornering in the polestar 2. It absolutely loves and hugs corners. I have a polestar / 2023 with the Michelin tires on them. Dual motor and that thing's a beast against corners
I hired a Polestar 2 long Range for a trip to Tassie. What disappointed me the most was how firm the suspension was. Super uncomfortable for country driving. Not sure if they tuned the suspension for dynamic driving but it was way too stiff, considering it’s not a seriously low sitting vehicle.
As a Swedish person i prefer Mazdas interiors all day long that was made from the autumn 2016 to summer 2018. cheap cars with superb ergonomics and simple and clever solutions.
I love how you point out the places where life's filth will build up. Do car designers earn enough money that they'll never experience what an utter pain in the tits it is to clean car interiors? Re. depreciation, I just had a quick look on carsales as well.. there are two identical MY2024 Polestar 2 long range dual motors listed (filter by year made, latest) and there is $22k difference in price... the only difference I can see is that the cheaper one has done 8,000ks less and it's in QLD rather than TAS. Mental!
😅 When did panel gaps that 99% of people will never notice stop a car from functioning correctly? Car companies that are 100 years old better darn well have good gaps but then they have trash powertrains, electronics and other equipment. Stop the hate.
as much as I love the exterior of the car, I can only say the interior looks like a Kmart basics battery bank. the wood grain and metal of modern Volvos just looks so much better. even my P1 Volvos look better, and that interior released 20 years ago.
Hired one of these in the UK for a week. 4 people with luggage was a very tight fit. Range wasn’t amazing and it took hours to recharge. It was okay to drive - nothing amazing, certainly not as quick as I was expecting. Would never hire one again and put me off trying another EV.
Yeah mate, keep living in the past. That's like trying a shit chocolate when you're young and never trying chocolate again. Everyone has different taste, seems like you're reluctant to put yourself out there, keep living in your shell
Four people with luggage is pushing it for a Polestar 2. It's a small car, not far off a Yaris in size. Sounds like you just picked the wrong vehicle for your needs.
@@moggy4086 self selects when the car hire place doesn’t have the car you booked and all they have left is a Polestar and it’s 9.58pm and they shut at 10pm.
Disposable cars. Nobody is going to pay 50k for a battery in 10 years when the car is only worth 15k. Add that to the surprising amount of mechanical / engineering issues for an EV..... No Ty.
The depreciation is in part caused by new evs getting cheaper, which is in part caused by battery's getting cheaper. Batteries Approx 1/3 cheaper with another significant drop predicted in the next 2 years. The upside is getting a new battery will not cost much but depreciation will be bad for those looking to sell.
@@joebot2127 I take it you haven't seen any of the MB, BMW, or Audi reviews here? EV depreciation is pretty damn bad, but it's not really worse than an equivalent premium Euro brand (reliability isn't any worse either), and plenty of people are still buying those.
Great informative review, as usual redriven team! Thank you! Really love the interior of these things. Think I'll hold off on EV for a bit yet. The only one that even starts to float my boat as an enthusiast is the ioniq 5 N. Alas, the $ won't stretch that far, and U fear I'll be waiting a while for more affordable electric N....
The polestar 3 here in the states is built like a Tank with ultra premium materials. Makes Tesla look extremely cheap in comparison. Very cheep lease deals for a $80,000 vehicle.
Thinking about going second hand electric due to my day to day short commutes and the fact that the UK government is planning to squeeze any motorist with an ICE vehicle heavily, but??? I am getting mixed messages about them in terms of realistic government commitment to expanding charging infrastructure (UK). I am also apprehensive due to the current battery tech charge times on longer journeys too. I have also heard that fast charging on a regular basis can reduce battery life/capacity quickly, if buying secondhand then the past charge cycles will not be known and a risk, but I suppose any ICE vehicle could have been previously thrashed within an inch of it's life too? From some research online Tesla's batteries have regularly and reliably gone well over 200000 miles with still quite reasonable battery capacity left after 10 years ( if not constantly fast charged and quickly discharged), not sure about the rest of the vehicle reliability though? The issue in the UK is that the government is pushing for EV's without really commiting to them, while at the same time planning to punish ICE vehicles with heavy road tax and increased tax on fuel, it's just an excuse to stealth tax. However, it is obvious this is more about raising more tax revenue than saving the environment. I can guarantee when tax receipts drop when more people make the EV switch, electric motorists will then have their wallets squeezed too with some special electrical grid strain tax, they will dream up some way of raping the motorists wallet regardless. Looking into an MG EV, Tesla or Polestar for the future. The Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 are the best looking out of the lot, but very expensive second hand in the UK, more so than a Polestar from some internet window shopping.
I am not anti-ev, but I probably will never own one.... definitely not a used one out of warranty. My next car will probably be a plug in hybrid, and probably a Toyota, Subaru or Mazda when they start sharing the Toyota hybrid system. I want to be able to charge at home for short trips, and not worry about range anxiety on longer trips.
Batteries for EVs are dropping in prices immensely. They halved in the last one year, and it's expected to half again by 2026. When buying a used EV. I think from 2025 manufacturer year is a solid place to begin. Also ensure they're compatible with batteries that come out soon
I used to think the styling was okay, but I think it’s maybe not dating that well. Also the interior not as nice as the Volvo offerings like the XC60. Not sure how much free solar charging you get over winter. I do have a Tesla battery and still send a lot of power to the grid in summer though…so would like to take advantage of that…I was thinking i4, although I reckon the new Dodge Charger is something more interesting. Why don’t they sell those here? Could I drive the Hyundai or a KIA? Hmmm Is the model 3 really an enjoyable drive? Probably no to both…also I reckon the insurance is a problem for most. Also who wants to blow that much on depreciation? Not me. I don’t drive much as work from home, so no commute, mainly just for non work related things. My current car, has cost me about $1,200 in 8 years on maintenance, has appreciated in value about 10/15%, has been faultless, is very reasonable on insurance, gets about 13L per 100 kms but since I drive less, I only spend about $100 a fortnight on fuel….why would I risk buying an EV? I live in a wealthy south eastern suburb, should I buy one just to make my neighbours happy with me? Or so the lefties think I’m altruistic and care? I do care, I drive less…but yeah not sure an electric car makes sense, sorry.
Personally form my situation an EV is completely out of the question mostly due to the cost of things like insurance,l & consumerables and lack of infrastructure and overall cost of buying it. Not the nicest looking car out there but not the ugliest either. Good video as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
ReDriven in a nutshell "Plastics scratch easily" "The cup holder can even hold pretentious coffees" "I'm not a mechanic but Jim is' "Should you buy one? Absolutely not or Maybe BUT if its anything that isn't a Japanese car"
When they 💩 themselves, they really are quite hard to get on the tow truck in a narrow alley in Byron Bay, parked nose into the car space. It's actually the only one that has done it and I refuse to believe that the renter did not take the key for a swim. It was a Hertz car. Rumor has it that some are actually privately owned (not leased) but I refuse to believe it.
I've moved quite a few of the rest of them that aren't broken down. They seem very solidly made. Although I do walk through the Hertz yard and see a few with return to dealer written on the window.
Adam, from your comments about how the Polestar 2 drives, it sounds like it's a bit like most of its bland 200 series Volvo ancestors. Bring on the bowls hat on the parcel shelf.
EV vs ICE isn’t unique about this. It’s the same with push bikes. Battery push bike owners get lots of hate from the analog push bike fans. I don’t get it 😂
They are just a volvo, same issues with those so no, definitely isn't worth the risk, working for a major Tow contractor, we tow plenty of these a month, too many issues to list, if i was someone with 40-70k to spare i would avoid like the plague.
Will harp on again about the good old LS. New battery replaced in a few hours is about $5K. In saying that still running perfectly after 15 years. Loves a hot day. One to watch is the after market scene where the larger heavier original nickel hydride batteries are now being swapped for reworked lithium batteries out of a prius in the US. Much lighter, much smaller and more power and cheap and easy to instal. Dropping a 100kg and getting 20% more power would be nice. If the original battery ever dies. Oh and the LS does come with a key fob which I never use. I use the credit card sized key which sits in my wallet. Something else I dont have to carry or worry about losing.
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I have been married to my wife for 32 years and her mother (my mother-in-law) would consider herself an environmentalist. However, over the time we have be together my wife and I have owned (including the current cars we drive) 5 cars between us. My mother-in-law has gone through at least 20. Mostly due to the fact that she thinks servicing them is putting petrol in them as required. Don't get me wrong, I love my mother-in-law she is a wonderful woman but when it comes to car ownership she is infuriating. My current car has over 400K on the clock and is still going strong while my mother-in-law's clapped out Corolla (latest 2nd hand piece of shit) is sitting unused in her driveway as she drives around in her sons car as he is overseas for a year for work. I have tried to convince her to buy a quality used car and look after it but to no avail. Even pointing out the environmental benefits have held no sway. At this point I have given up trying to change her ways and am preparing for the climate to kill us all😂.
I'm just depressed to discover that the sands of time mean the oldest of these things are 3+years old. I thought they came out yesterday. Why are you doing this to me Adam. Why.
I see your point, ICE's can be much more emotional to drive (although most are boring). I've got a Polestar 2 and a Porsche 981, and the N/A flat 6 in the Porsche is just incredible, plus the handling is wonderfully engaging. However, I love my Polestar, and the reason is that as a daily it is a lovely place to be, it is just incredibly easy to get in and go, it is stupidly cheap to run (95% of my energy usage is literally free and it barely needs servicing), plus the handling is quite engaging when driven at 6-7 tenths (less so outside that area though). There is a real place for EV's for someone who enjoys driving cars, however not as a weekend sports car (yet anyway).
We have experienced some of the software glitches and slowdown mentioned here. I think the issue is that it's kinda a parts bin car and the head unit is an older Volvo one and the CPU is being asked to do more than it should.
Ev vs ice is a thing because of the "save the planet" messaging behind electric vehicles, and that means people are running on emption instead.of reason, hence the nutty behaviour.
I won't consider an EV until manufacturers address battery tech(longevity, future cost, availability), drop the weight of this size of vehicles by 100-150kg at minimum, charging infrastructure, and real buttons for commonly used controls.
Battery longevity is excellent, it's extremely rare for any modern EV to need a battery replacement (either full or by affected cells), the degradation is minimal (Tesla put out info on 10yo model S and X vehicles that had done on average 320,000km, they had on average 12% degradation, so very little) with most EV's having batteries that will last longer than the life of the vehicle. Weight is an issue for sports cars, but given most ICE buyers buy vehicles far bigger than they need, I don't think this is a deciding factor for EV's. Charging infrastructure is an issue, but EV's are best for people who can charge at home - if you can they're incredibly efficient (and very cheap to run), and if you can't they're a pita. Real buttons for common controls are a problem with every new vehicle, and I think a minimum set of physical controls should be mandated, but this is not an EV issue, it's a modern car issue. Overall your concerns are mostly unwarranted. Buy whatever you like, but it's okay to buy an ICE just because you like them more - you don't have to make stuff up to justify it.
Very interesting review. I've had a dual motor Polestar 2 for over two years and I absolutely adore it. It has the nappa leather interior and is such a lovely place to be. I'm planning on owning it for another three years at least, there is just nothing that compares in my opinion (once V2G is more commonplace I'll likely replace it). Your comments on the handling are interesting, I've found it's quite engaging at 7 or 8 tenths, but when you get to 9 or 10 tenths it starts to understeer and it's not as enjoyable. At 6 tenths or below it just goes where it's pointed with no fuss, but not much engagement either.
Also, if you want to run the A/C or stereo etc while you're not sitting in the driver's seat, just hit the play/pause button in the centre of the volume knob, it wakes the car up for half an hour.
As for insurance, mine is less than half what you mentioned, and that's for a dual motor. I completely agree with your comments on who should own this as well (and it applies for all EV's) - if you own your own home, you have solar, and you have a wall charger, it's the easiest experience in the world. I have those things and haven't used a public charger for nearly two years. I also do about 95% of my charging off solar, so it's effectively free. That combined with non-existent servicing costs and excellent reliability means I spend very little on the car. For someone not in this situation however, I would not recommend an EV.
Only decent review here most of these folks cant afford it hence why their silly comments
Have you factored in the cost of Battery replacement, or will you sell it before it expires, so some other schmuck will have to do it?
Brought a new Corolla in 2011 19k driveway.
One set of brakes and 2 sets of tyres.
Still worth 8 grand so that’s less than a grand a year in depreciation.
I didn’t even know I was a Greeny.
You can never go wrong with a Toyota.
The G-Shock is the best thing in this video
I love my PS2. I definitely recommend to get one with the plus and pilot packages as they make a huge difference. IMHO the autopilot they add is one of the best in the industry, the panoramic roof looks spectacular and the upgraded audio system is much better than the standard one.
Please note that the car is quite small overall and it is not spacious inside at all. I like it as it feels sporty, but it is not for everybody.
The same with the suspension. I personally love how this car drives. It is a nice middle ground between being a good daily and being sporty, but for some people it might be too punishing on bad roads.
As I sit in the UK in the depth of winter, it’s great to see Adam back in his shorts and the sun shining !
Polestar batteries are not $50k or a single unit. They can replace single modules if they fail & even the original MY22 will have a battery warranty guaranteed till 2030
50k is for new battery. Car has 8 years or 160 000 km warranty before you need to pay that sum. So you are safe from warranty perspective there. In EVs if battery fails it fails quite fast in first 2 years. So in general the possible issue after the warranty is degradation. Because if there is cell failure in battery you can replace module not complete battery and that is not neither close to 50k, but much less. If they degrade as so far about 1-2 % a year. After 15-20 years you will still have 80% of a range left. However Volvo/Polestar is looking to offer refurbished batteries outside warranty cases. But for sure electric car is not for everyone. For info Polestar 2 is build on the same platform as XC40. So they share the same drivetrain as EX40.
Before anything else, I own stock in Polestar (I want them to do well).
I managed to really anger an EV owner, by making the absolute horrible comment that my Volvo V50 1.6D Drive E is cheaper to run than a Polestar 2, at least here in Sweden.
Factoring in the cost of public charging vs Diesel, 50 liters gets me 1080kms of range for about the same cost as a full charge of Polestar 2, the Polestar 2 gets about half that in real world range.
My V50 didn’t cost over 600 000 SEK and hasn’t really depreciated much.
Then there is the cost of tire wear, probably largely offsetting the maintenance costs of my V50 alone.
The V50 is cheap to tax, fairly cheap to insure unlike the Polestar 2 (I’m not sure the Polestar 2 has yearly vehicle tax in Sweden as EV’s might be exempt).
I was blocked..
The thing with EV’s, is that most people will switch to EV’s when it makes economic sense to do so (right now it doesn’t) and I don’t think forcing a change by facing out combustion cars by force, is an acceptable way to go.
I can't afford a new car, but I would accept Governments Taxing people into EV's if passenger cars produced say 50% of the worlds CO2 emissions. But cars make less than 10% of human CO2 output, so forcing us all into EV's isn't going to solve the climate crisis anyway. Hence, for now, I agree with you.
@ also, alternative fuels is an area with a high amount of development (and potential).
If I not miss remembering, the majority of CO2 emissions is from producing electricity, if everyone is switching to EV’s we are going to need a lot more electricity.. Fun fact, the Swedish government is blowing a huge amount of our tax money to fraudulent companies (like Northvolt) that promise unrealistic things, like green steel.. To produce green steel they would need a rough equivalent of the capital of Finland or more, in other words a decently sized nuclear power plant, to make steel no one is going to buy because it is too expensive.
The Gothenburg Kommun for example chose to import components for the new “Hissings” bridge from Spain, components made with low quality Spanish steel, in order word’s Swedish steel is already to expensive for the people who paid an artist a ridiculous amount of money to make a Pink/Purple rock statue…
“Just build more wind turbines”, doesn’t work like that mate. When the wind doesn’t blow there is a shortage of power, when it blows it is in such access that a relative of mine who has wind turbines had to pay to offload that electricity.. I’m not kidding. He has had those wind turbines for many years and I don’t think this has ever happened before..
Politicians are dumb.
Diesel hatchbacks make EV running costs look like Bugatti (well, not quite but you get the drift)
good old sweden. Lived on Gamla Brogatan right near Hotorget and then Sickla Kaj ( for the skiing ) for a year. Never drove a car the public transport was soooooo good. I mean really really good.
You make some good points, although I've seen evidence that EV tyre wear issues have been significantly overblown. Does a heavier vehicle wear slightly faster? Yes. However, the driving style has significantly more impact on tyre wear. If you drive a V50 like a maniac, you'll definitely wear the tyres faster than a Polestar driven normally.
I suspect most of the noise around EV wear is due to many new owners develop a bit of a lead foot at first, seeing as acceleration is a bit of an EV party piece, and by the time they start driving it like their old car, they don't realise they've already halved the life of their tyres, so when they need changing early owners are shocked because they only remember driving normally and blame the car.
I agree with everything else, though, especially the fact that if you need to primarily use public chargers, instead of at home or work, EVs are objectively terrible compared to ICE.
For that money I'd have a second hand Stinger with the yummy 3.3l v6 twin turbo.
I hope you're not a man using the word yummy
I have a LRDM and have not had a problem with it at all. It is super fast and engaging. Great car!
Really comprehensive review as always. Appreciate it! Cheers from the States.
With the price of an EV6 GT-Line dual motor demo being almost 30k less than new, makes it my winner!
So my 2001 Corolla with 364,000km which cost me $4k to buy and preventative maintain.... cost bare minimum to insure, cheap to feed, fun to drive, helping the environment endlessly... might be a more cost effective option 🤔
450,000km Aurion owner here too… only had to replace the alternator!
Toyota owners are the most environmentally friendly motorists on the road.💪💪💪
2006 corolla owner here. Bought for $4.2k. Twice a year oil change only. Petrol about $80 a week. Tyres once every 2 odd years. And other maintainable items.
I will be keeping it for a while as my daily.
@lukeclifton4392
I have a pajero with 400k
My brothers has 500k
My Holden has 450k
And I even have an Audi with 300k
Doing more for the environment than Any ev
For PRC BEVs, you’ll be lucky if they are trouble free after 2 years/40,000 kma
And probably sucks ar driving badly and rattles more than a baby
I've had my PS2 for a couple of years now and I am very, very happy with it. Build quality is fab.
Haha first I thought you are talking about PlayStation 2 😂
@@okhmgm88 glad to see I'm not the only who went there :)
Yeah, its a good console
I miss my PS2, some of the best games
PS2 is my childhood bro
You can always find a used polestar at the gentleman's club 😂
Just changed my first set of tyres (Dual motor 4 wheel drive) @ 40,000miles! Better than any of my previous Petrol/Diesel cars.
I just did a quote for a new car we're buying and the electric version of the same car. The insurance basically doubled, this is 2 people over 50, clean driving history, in country NSW. So extra tyres, the battery cost, and that insurance cost, shows that, outside of leasing perhaps, an EV is not necessarily the way to go just yet. Being 'bush', as in west of the Blue Mountains, does mean the charging infrastructure just isn't there yet, in terms of the road trips we love to do.
My car is a 2013 BMW 125i. If I get a quote on comprehensive insurance from RACV with agreed value of $11k, the policy is *$1920.* For a 2023 Polestar 2 with agreed value of $60k, the policy is *$1756.* For a 2024 Tesla Model 3 Long Range with agreed value of $60k the policy is *$1531.* Yes, I was surprised too.
@@sjwright2I somewhat understand the quote estimate for your 125i and the PoleStar… but the quote for the Model3 is underestimated!! I would put that down to the RACV and the Victorian governments push for EV’s and infrastructure🤷♂️🤔
You guys know how insurance works right.
Each company has its own data on risk so their premiums differ as a result.
Im tipping an 11 year old bmw has very expensive parts so any claim is significantly higher than many other cars. The agreed value actually pays a very small part of the premium, its cost of claims.
Im an insurance analyst for a major company and if you're not shopping around then you are costing yourself money.
EVs will get cheaper but in the early years most got written off bc companies didnt want to warrant the batteries after an accident. But data is much better now and batteries have been proven to be safe after accidents. Batteries are no longer the reason for write offs.
@@sjwright2 that is very expensive for the BMW.
@@Steve-jx3mh That's interesting, thank you. Curious that my 2013 BMW 125i is so expensive to insure. I switched to third party only because paying $2,000 per year isn't worth it to get a measly $12,000 payout when an uninsured driver causes a collision with me.
Good review framing it from the perspective "does an EV work for your lifestyle" shame Jim had to repeat the myth that batteries need to be replaced after 10 years.
When you lease a vehicle you pay for the depreciation of the vehicle and some more. That's what leasing is.
Only is the depreciation can be calculated correctly, which in the case of electric vehicles has shown to be more analogous the mobile phones than cars. Leasing has been incredibly favourable for the consumer at the expense of car dealerships, who get EVs back that are now only worth a fraction of the cost that they predicted 2-3 years ago.
Few years ago I saw EVs as the future of the automobile. Now I seem them as a kind of scam.
As a concept they make a lot of sense. On paper they seem great. But in the real world, for the individual owner they're nothing but a giant hassle and even bigger financial risk.
As an EV owner of a few years now that risk has already paid for itself a few times over. My total insurance and servicing/maintenance costs are less than my fuel savings on my EV tariff. That includes paying for an aftermarket comprehensive warranty
Anything being pushed, promoted, encouraged and mandated by the government is a 100% scam. UK's car market is getting absolutely destroyed by the unhinged lunatics in parliament. Dealers now must ration and keep ICE cars undelivered before the end of the year to meet the insane EV sale targets.
100% correct. They are best to be avoided. They might only work for the odd person with excessive money to spend and have a life style that fit in with the EV draw backs. They're just a niche vehicle at best.
Are you buying cars as an investment?
You're doing it wrong.
I absolutely love driving my EV, i have solar and a battery at home with a charger. For us its the best thing we have ever done.
I agree that they are not a great solution for everyone, but depreciation doesnt worry me one little bit. I got into it knowing it to be the case so i just dont care.
@@3UZFE yes the odd 80+% of all new sales in Norway. Sounds pretty niche to me 🤪
For 65k you can get 3 proper cars that will last far longer with less depreciation.
Hey Jim, what does a long motor and fuel system on a Toyota 200 series cost? Battery cost seems relative. I’ll probably stick with diesel Ute because I need to tow and carry stuff.
I've been in a few of these as Ubers. The interior feels really nicely put together, but rear headroom isn't brilliant for taller people in the back, and that C pillar means I really have to stoop when getting in to avoid banging my head on the roof. That being said, I prefer riding in the back of these over Teslas.
For me it comes down to whether you’re comfortable telling all your friends and family you’re dating a pole star
Polestar 2 long range owner myself found this review really good. But ei this car is not tesla copy. Instead a class if its own. They are investing in R n D and its improving each year. My 2024 model has no issues mentioned. Touchwood!
I've driven the first model for 2 years and I can relate to most of what you've said. Great car! However, one of the things I've found the most annoying wasn't mentioned: the emergency stop feature absolutely terrified me a couple of times. Just turning your car in a street with a bit of traffic or backup up on a really slight slope becomes a nightmare, as it just starts to panic and comes to an immediate halt, effectively making it much worse than it should be. Also the other safety features are too intrusive for my taste, as if my grand ma was sitting next to me and telling me to watch out all the time. As for the rest: best car I've ever driven.
Last time I saw a polestar was at a strip club.
Good one.
Much cheaper and just as thrilling.
Electric powered?
I just looked up at the night's sky, it was free even.
For me it was when I put a star on my Festivus pole
I would buy a RC-F instead
So informative with relevant information. Thanks.
That centre console is ridiculous. I’d be heading to a Volvo wrecker for an XC40 console - it will mostly fit
@4:35 That Long Range model is a Monster. Of course, typo's are excluded here...😊
I felt something was a bit "optimistic".
As the owner of a modestly spec'd PS2, I wholeheartedly agree with the review, especially regarding the suspension commentary. Coming from an Audi S3, I would say the ride quality is no worse than my old car but with much improved steering precision (still a little lifeless, though... but far better than the Model 3). I’d say the biggest transition hurdle will be charging. Being able to charge from home will make a big difference-there’s so much satisfaction each time you can top up the car using solar or off-peak rates.
Tesla was never meant to be expensive which is why over the last few years they’ve dropped the car price significantly.
Usually the only time costs are cut is because if the need to generate extra sales whereas Tesla’s sales are still strong.
It’s not that I don’t like EV’s it’s usually the owners (some) that I don’t like. Anyway I like the Polestar it looks good and a two motor model absolutely blitzed me off the lights one day. I wasn’t racing but I was driving a big black V8 Jeep and it seems to trigger some people to act that way. Very impressive and I had no chance of catching him even if I wanted to.
Just curious on where you got the cost of 50k on the battery from ??
You did not mention Polestar battery comes with an 8 year warranty and the battery should last the life of the vehicle >15 years! You never mention the cost to replace an ICE engine or gearbox…
You also save on maintenance costs, which you did not mention and only needs servicing every 2 years of which you really only change the filters and wipers etc. brakes hardly need changing due to regenerative braking. I pay closer to $1500 for insurance which is on par with ICE cars.
Really like your channel but I felt some of the benefits of EV were missed.
Yep. I mate of mine bought a 200 landcruiser when it was not far out of warranty and the engine failed. 35K Yep $35,000 to repair. And from what I have heard this not an isolated occurrence.
Renault Megane e Tech, tried it this week, it was so good :) I suggest you consider it :)
I have to disagree with you when it comes to cornering in the polestar 2. It absolutely loves and hugs corners. I have a polestar / 2023 with the Michelin tires on them. Dual motor and that thing's a beast against corners
Wow 50k for a battery 😧. I'll stick to my 20 year old Pajero.
I hired a Polestar 2 long Range for a trip to Tassie. What disappointed me the most was how firm the suspension was. Super uncomfortable for country driving. Not sure if they tuned the suspension for dynamic driving but it was way too stiff, considering it’s not a seriously low sitting vehicle.
The only way an ev makes sense is that if you take it on a lease for some time enjoy it and then return it and forget about it
What is the bloody great thing where the ignition switch should be?
I'd rather drive a Lada
Thats good in Russia hopefully
As a Swedish person i prefer Mazdas interiors all day long that was made from the autumn 2016 to summer 2018. cheap cars with superb ergonomics and simple and clever solutions.
i got a 2022 Mazda CX-30 and i still regret trading in my base model Mazda 3 -18 that i had previously, it was so simple and no fuss.
Awesome watch mate!
I love how you point out the places where life's filth will build up. Do car designers earn enough money that they'll never experience what an utter pain in the tits it is to clean car interiors?
Re. depreciation, I just had a quick look on carsales as well.. there are two identical MY2024 Polestar 2 long range dual motors listed (filter by year made, latest) and there is $22k difference in price... the only difference I can see is that the cheaper one has done 8,000ks less and it's in QLD rather than TAS. Mental!
😅 When did panel gaps that 99% of people will never notice stop a car from functioning correctly? Car companies that are 100 years old better darn well have good gaps but then they have trash powertrains, electronics and other equipment. Stop the hate.
as much as I love the exterior of the car, I can only say the interior looks like a Kmart basics battery bank. the wood grain and metal of modern Volvos just looks so much better. even my P1 Volvos look better, and that interior released 20 years ago.
I might be wrong but as far as Tesla is concerned driving sales isn’t the drive anymore, getting cars to lease is the future along with the CyberTaxi.
You guys got the Honda vezel on your side???
4:40 so the long-range single motor has 1220kw?
Should be good in a run against a Koeniggsegg.
Haha, lil’ typo. Well spotted 🤙
I think the short answer is - No.
Longer answer is - No, not in a million years
Hired one of these in the UK for a week. 4 people with luggage was a very tight fit. Range wasn’t amazing and it took hours to recharge. It was okay to drive - nothing amazing, certainly not as quick as I was expecting. Would never hire one again and put me off trying another EV.
Yeah mate, keep living in the past. That's like trying a shit chocolate when you're young and never trying chocolate again. Everyone has different taste, seems like you're reluctant to put yourself out there, keep living in your shell
Four people with luggage is pushing it for a Polestar 2. It's a small car, not far off a Yaris in size. Sounds like you just picked the wrong vehicle for your needs.
Yeah stick your old diesel and dont waste your money cos clearly too swayed by one vehicle !!
@@moggy4086 self selects when the car hire place doesn’t have the car you booked and all they have left is a Polestar and it’s 9.58pm and they shut at 10pm.
Need to get that n14 sss on the show what a car they were
Disposable cars. Nobody is going to pay 50k for a battery in 10 years when the car is only worth 15k. Add that to the surprising amount of mechanical / engineering issues for an EV..... No Ty.
I hear some austic EV ownership shrieking about modal shift, environmental issues and other hypocritic hyperboles in the background. Don't you?
The depreciation is in part caused by new evs getting cheaper, which is in part caused by battery's getting cheaper. Batteries Approx 1/3 cheaper with another significant drop predicted in the next 2 years. The upside is getting a new battery will not cost much but depreciation will be bad for those looking to sell.
Nobody is going to pay for a battery in 10 years time because batteries don't suddenly cease to work at the 10 year mark.
@@joebot2127 I take it you haven't seen any of the MB, BMW, or Audi reviews here? EV depreciation is pretty damn bad, but it's not really worse than an equivalent premium Euro brand (reliability isn't any worse either), and plenty of people are still buying those.
@@hillbilly8621 In many cases , they do. Batteries have a shelf life. It's often ~10 years.
Great informative review, as usual redriven team! Thank you!
Really love the interior of these things.
Think I'll hold off on EV for a bit yet.
The only one that even starts to float my boat as an enthusiast is the ioniq 5 N. Alas, the $ won't stretch that far, and U fear I'll be waiting a while for more affordable electric N....
Love the Casio mate
The polestar 3 here in the states is built like a Tank with ultra premium materials. Makes Tesla look extremely cheap in comparison. Very cheep lease deals for a $80,000 vehicle.
Thinking about going second hand electric due to my day to day short commutes and the fact that the UK government is planning to squeeze any motorist with an ICE vehicle heavily, but??? I am getting mixed messages about them in terms of realistic government commitment to expanding charging infrastructure (UK).
I am also apprehensive due to the current battery tech charge times on longer journeys too. I have also heard that fast charging on a regular basis can reduce battery life/capacity quickly, if buying secondhand then the past charge cycles will not be known and a risk, but I suppose any ICE vehicle could have been previously thrashed within an inch of it's life too? From some research online Tesla's batteries have regularly and reliably gone well over 200000 miles with still quite reasonable battery capacity left after 10 years ( if not constantly fast charged and quickly discharged), not sure about the rest of the vehicle reliability though?
The issue in the UK is that the government is pushing for EV's without really commiting to them, while at the same time planning to punish ICE vehicles with heavy road tax and increased tax on fuel, it's just an excuse to stealth tax. However, it is obvious this is more about raising more tax revenue than saving the environment. I can guarantee when tax receipts drop when more people make the EV switch, electric motorists will then have their wallets squeezed too with some special electrical grid strain tax, they will dream up some way of raping the motorists wallet regardless.
Looking into an MG EV, Tesla or Polestar for the future. The Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 are the best looking out of the lot, but very expensive second hand in the UK, more so than a Polestar from some internet window shopping.
Am I misreading 1220kW at 4:41?
I am not anti-ev, but I probably will never own one.... definitely not a used one out of warranty. My next car will probably be a plug in hybrid, and probably a Toyota, Subaru or Mazda when they start sharing the Toyota hybrid system. I want to be able to charge at home for short trips, and not worry about range anxiety on longer trips.
Hows that mini resto going
The height of that plastic surround around the gear shifter is ridiculous. What were they thinking?
under engineered = cheap ??? sounds chinese to me
Doubt the Long Range Single Motor is 1220kW @ 4:40
It costs too much, and there are so many options out there that I actually forgot all about this car.
Ioniq 5n is my only contender, but am seriously not going electric for many many many years, we're not set up well enough yet 😊
Batteries for EVs are dropping in prices immensely. They halved in the last one year, and it's expected to half again by 2026. When buying a used EV. I think from 2025 manufacturer year is a solid place to begin. Also ensure they're compatible with batteries that come out soon
I used to think the styling was okay, but I think it’s maybe not dating that well. Also the interior not as nice as the Volvo offerings like the XC60. Not sure how much free solar charging you get over winter. I do have a Tesla battery and still send a lot of power to the grid in summer though…so would like to take advantage of that…I was thinking i4, although I reckon the new Dodge Charger is something more interesting. Why don’t they sell those here? Could I drive the Hyundai or a KIA? Hmmm Is the model 3 really an enjoyable drive? Probably no to both…also I reckon the insurance is a problem for most. Also who wants to blow that much on depreciation? Not me. I don’t drive much as work from home, so no commute, mainly just for non work related things. My current car, has cost me about $1,200 in 8 years on maintenance, has appreciated in value about 10/15%, has been faultless, is very reasonable on insurance, gets about 13L per 100 kms but since I drive less, I only spend about $100 a fortnight on fuel….why would I risk buying an EV? I live in a wealthy south eastern suburb, should I buy one just to make my neighbours happy with me? Or so the lefties think I’m altruistic and care? I do care, I drive less…but yeah not sure an electric car makes sense, sorry.
Unless it comes with a 10kw/h battery pack, solar array and big fat charging cable, what's the point?
Personally form my situation an EV is completely out of the question mostly due to the cost of things like insurance,l & consumerables and lack of infrastructure and overall cost of buying it.
Not the nicest looking car out there but not the ugliest either.
Good video as always guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
You can't get a lower spec Q4 E-tron (at least in Aus) they have only just launched here and they are like 85k plus. Maybe in the UK
ReDriven in a nutshell
"Plastics scratch easily"
"The cup holder can even hold pretentious coffees"
"I'm not a mechanic but Jim is'
"Should you buy one? Absolutely not or Maybe BUT if its anything that isn't a Japanese car"
Correct!
Except the Japanese car bit
Could You make a Review of the Toyota/Scion IQ?
A piece of string is twice the length of itself when it's folded in half.
When they 💩 themselves, they really are quite hard to get on the tow truck in a narrow alley in Byron Bay, parked nose into the car space.
It's actually the only one that has done it and I refuse to believe that the renter did not take the key for a swim.
It was a Hertz car.
Rumor has it that some are actually privately owned (not leased) but I refuse to believe it.
I've moved quite a few of the rest of them that aren't broken down.
They seem very solidly made.
Although I do walk through the Hertz yard and see a few with return to dealer written on the window.
Never would buy an EV with
Lithium-Ion Batteries
Wait for Sodium-Ion Batteries
I don’t like to get ripped off
12:33 feels like the tsunami are going to get me
Hybrid is the answer in Australia
Adam, from your comments about how the Polestar 2 drives, it sounds like it's a bit like most of its bland 200 series Volvo ancestors. Bring on the bowls hat on the parcel shelf.
It's just as well you got rid of those gross wiper testing ads...
would be interesting to hear how this compares to a BMW i4
EV vs ICE isn’t unique about this. It’s the same with push bikes. Battery push bike owners get lots of hate from the analog push bike fans. I don’t get it 😂
The belt line of the polestar 2 looks ridiculously high, worse than a mazda3 it seems.
Which is a shame cause looks good otherwise
No, but you should buy Jim's used Yaris.
When are you selling your well run in Yari Jim?
Quick note - in the table of models at 4:40, apparently the long range single motor has 1220kw.
Sensational video otherwise, as always.
Good spot, cheers mate 🤙
They are just a volvo, same issues with those so no, definitely isn't worth the risk, working for a major Tow contractor, we tow plenty of these a month, too many issues to list, if i was someone with 40-70k to spare i would avoid like the plague.
if you had the money which will never happen- you tow loads of cars and Volvo generally are reliable havingg owned one
Anyone else miss the super groovy intro / theme tune?
Will harp on again about the good old LS. New battery replaced in a few hours is about $5K. In saying that still running perfectly after 15 years. Loves a hot day. One to watch is the after market scene where the larger heavier original nickel hydride batteries are now being swapped for reworked lithium batteries out of a prius in the US. Much lighter, much smaller and more power and cheap and easy to instal. Dropping a 100kg and getting 20% more power would be nice. If the original battery ever dies.
Oh and the LS does come with a key fob which I never use. I use the credit card sized key which sits in my wallet. Something else I dont have to carry or worry about losing.
He guys, just some feedback for your sponsor... they should provide the option to buy their superior quality wiper blades as blades only or refill replacements... its much better for the environment and much cheaper to buy and still very easy to replace for people with normal amounts of intelligence 🤷♂️... I can get a set of replacement (blades only) delivered to my home for $9:95... so even if they are superior rubber its hard to justify 70 bucks 😬 hopefully they don't get offended at my feedback??
Am sure they will be...
I have been married to my wife for 32 years and her mother (my mother-in-law) would consider herself an environmentalist. However, over the time we have be together my wife and I have owned (including the current cars we drive) 5 cars between us. My mother-in-law has gone through at least 20. Mostly due to the fact that she thinks servicing them is putting petrol in them as required. Don't get me wrong, I love my mother-in-law she is a wonderful woman but when it comes to car ownership she is infuriating. My current car has over 400K on the clock and is still going strong while my mother-in-law's clapped out Corolla (latest 2nd hand piece of shit) is sitting unused in her driveway as she drives around in her sons car as he is overseas for a year for work. I have tried to convince her to buy a quality used car and look after it but to no avail. Even pointing out the environmental benefits have held no sway. At this point I have given up trying to change her ways and am preparing for the climate to kill us all😂.
This is more about your mother-in-law than any car --ha....ha....
I'm just depressed to discover that the sands of time mean the oldest of these things are 3+years old. I thought they came out yesterday.
Why are you doing this to me Adam. Why.
The video was good and informative, I just don't like EV's, I like a car with a soul.........just saying.
I see your point, ICE's can be much more emotional to drive (although most are boring). I've got a Polestar 2 and a Porsche 981, and the N/A flat 6 in the Porsche is just incredible, plus the handling is wonderfully engaging. However, I love my Polestar, and the reason is that as a daily it is a lovely place to be, it is just incredibly easy to get in and go, it is stupidly cheap to run (95% of my energy usage is literally free and it barely needs servicing), plus the handling is quite engaging when driven at 6-7 tenths (less so outside that area though).
There is a real place for EV's for someone who enjoys driving cars, however not as a weekend sports car (yet anyway).
EVs are cool but they are not environmentally friendly and they are not cheap to own.
The windows look tiny from the inside.
2:34 we're still on our first set of tires in our LR DM Polestar 2 and their not wearing that thin. Don't drive it like you stole it.
We have experienced some of the software glitches and slowdown mentioned here. I think the issue is that it's kinda a parts bin car and the head unit is an older Volvo one and the CPU is being asked to do more than it should.
Ev vs ice is a thing because of the "save the planet" messaging behind electric vehicles, and that means people are running on emption instead.of reason, hence the nutty behaviour.
I won't consider an EV until manufacturers address battery tech(longevity, future cost, availability), drop the weight of this size of vehicles by 100-150kg at minimum, charging infrastructure, and real buttons for commonly used controls.
I won’t consider a combustion vehicle until fuel can be made on a home rooftop and they get rid of transmissions
Battery longevity is excellent, it's extremely rare for any modern EV to need a battery replacement (either full or by affected cells), the degradation is minimal (Tesla put out info on 10yo model S and X vehicles that had done on average 320,000km, they had on average 12% degradation, so very little) with most EV's having batteries that will last longer than the life of the vehicle. Weight is an issue for sports cars, but given most ICE buyers buy vehicles far bigger than they need, I don't think this is a deciding factor for EV's. Charging infrastructure is an issue, but EV's are best for people who can charge at home - if you can they're incredibly efficient (and very cheap to run), and if you can't they're a pita. Real buttons for common controls are a problem with every new vehicle, and I think a minimum set of physical controls should be mandated, but this is not an EV issue, it's a modern car issue.
Overall your concerns are mostly unwarranted. Buy whatever you like, but it's okay to buy an ICE just because you like them more - you don't have to make stuff up to justify it.
Hopefully we still have a choice in 10 years 😅
Leather / Faux leather seats aren’t even standard. WTH.