Why I'm NOT a Fan of This New "Christian" Law
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- My opinion on this issue will probably surprise you… In this video, Todd Friel lists several reasons why public schools should not be mandated to hang the 10 commandments in every classroom.
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I think God's word (commandments too) will not return void. I'm okay with kids having an opportunity to get an eyeful of a moral code. God can lead anyone beyond the basics.
That's not the critic, nor the problem.
No one who opposes the law disbeliefs this.
Christ comes before America
To many don't understand that and treat America as idol worship. They don't realize the end game that America will burn crispy in Revelation before the new earth.
Absolutely. Trump is being worshiped like a deity. People think he will save America, but God is the only One Who can.
@@brendaduncan4347 Assuming He chooses to. If He decides not to, I'll be okay with it. No nation can last forever.
agreed. posting the commandments does not point to Jesus. the "Gospel" is not about laws its about love, grace, and mercy.
How do you know you need grace if you don't know there is a standard GOD holds you to?
If only one child turns to Christ because of a conversation that was spurred from having Gods word in the school then it would all be worth it.
Even if it turns other children away from it?
@Kaddywompous this could be a kind argument for many things. If Jonah didn't go to Ninevah...? better to have some follow than none. :)
@@lee-lee2418 I’m not sure if you understood what I was getting at. Many people, who otherwise might have been inclined toward Christianity, are turned off by government endorsement of this kind of thing. Since the 80s, Christianity has become enmeshed in politics, and church membership has declined precipitously since the same time. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
@@lee-lee2418 I’m not sure if you understood what I was getting at. Many people, who otherwise might have been inclined toward Christianity, are turned off by government endorsement of this kind of thing. Since the 80s, Christianity has become enmeshed in politics, and church membership has declined precipitously since the same time. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
@@lee-lee2418 I’m not sure if you understood what I was getting at. Many people, who otherwise might have been inclined toward Christianity, are turned off by government endorsement of this kind of thing. Since the 80s, Christianity has become enmeshed in politics, and church membership has declined precipitously since the same time. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
You don't have to defend a lion. All you have to do is let the lion loose, and the lion will defend itself. - Charles Spurgeon
Maybe the right question isn't, "should government schools display the Ten Commandments?" But rather, "should we have our children attending these government schools?"
Also, I can't seem to find "separation of church and state" anywhere in my constitution. Hmmm.
I agree. If there’s anyway possible, our children should either be homeschooled or in a Christian school. Public schools should at this point be avoided if it all possible.
The first amendment states that the government cannot establish a national religion. The word god, christian, christ, jesus, or any other religious word is nowhere in the original constitution except in 1 spot where it says that there can be no religious test to hold office. Sounds pretty clear the founding fathers did not want religion ruling government.
@@jamesblackwell4965How about private schools?
Totally agree with point one. However, point two is a little confused. No where in the constitution is the state allowed to interfere in the affairs of the church, but certainly the church has the right to influence government. No where in scripture is the idea of hanging the Ten Commandments up a picture of sharing the gospel. We as followers of Jesus Christ are commanded to GO and open our mouths to share the Good News. They must HEAR the Good News in order to come. The church for to long has sit in the pews and kept the message to themselves. That is the most hateful thing we could do to the world. Not trying to be argumentative, but offering another perspective. May God bless and keep you.
"Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
It's true that this nation was founded on Christian principles, but at the same time the Founders did not want one denomination or religion to be able to impose particular religious practices upon the entire nation. And yes the Thirteen Colonies had state churches, but most of them ended up disestablishing them not long after the Revolutionary War for the reason I gave above.
Ten commandments aint for Jews and Christians only, its the Moral standard to all Human beings for Me its Ok ...they aint promoting religion they are promoting Truth
Actually listen to what he's saying. The points he made are valid.
The Bible was written for those who believe. God gave His commandments for His people to follow. Your statement is incorrect
@MeanMrMustrd ..exactly! the Holy Bible was written to those who Believe. The unregenerated world cannot understand the things of God.
It's on every man's heart. Is what God's word says.
@@sojourning7 of course they wouldn’t understand the things of God if we don’t tell them. We are here, not just to be Christian’s, but to tell others about Christ and His mercy and Grace.
My concern is that "they" will use the legislation to open the door to allowing pretty much any religion to influence our schools.
They already have! Idk how you guys not realize that they've been pushing their religion for a century now. There's is no such thing as "neutral" - either you honor God or you don't and not honoring God effects so-called "secular" education.
Many schools systems already provide "prayer rooms" to Muslims who must pray to Allah 5 times a day.
They have the school of satan your worried about the 10 commandments ????
It's a valid concern because that's exactly what it has done. Look at Oklahoma, Satan club is coming in with its "ministers"
Exactly what I was worried about. I've already seen two people on my Facebook newsfeed to say "if they're going to put the 10 commandments in school then they better put up the pillars of islam, and other religion's rules (for lack of a better word)".
We already see the church of satan clubs going into school that have a Christian club.
I agree with you. Especially the part about non Christian teachers answering questions
I’m with you and Todd on this.
This is your best video, yet. If you want your kid to get a Christian education, get them out of school…Period! Quit trying to fix that dysfunctional institution.
Every king must kiss the Son. Secular or not. How can they do so without His Law?
The more exposure people get to the 10 commandments and the Bible the better.
The 10 commandments alone with no context in a classroom led by a leftist they/them .. ya great idea. Good grief.
Thanks for the points, but it's time for Christians to stand.
I hear what you're saying, but if you look at ancient Israel, it was as wicked as America is today. God designed the law of condemnation for condemnation that he might lead the Lost to the grace of Christ
Israel is a highly Atheistic country.
God's laws aren't "laws of condemnation". That's what the devil's religions preach in order to promote their counterfeit, lawless grace theology. Deuteronomy shows God saying that whoever obeys His laws will lead prosperous, long, and happy lives. The 3rd Commandment say that He has mercy on the ppl who lives by HIs commandments. The 10 Commandments condemn lawless ppl. _That's_ why Paul called it a ministry of death.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 the law worketh Wrath (Romans 4:15). "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith" (Galatians 3:13-14).
What will happen if Muslims call for selections from the Hadith be posted, or Hindu prayers to Krishna, or Buddhist Sutras? 🤔 You have a point.🙏
Atheism is a RELIGION that has been pushed on public schools for a century. Just because we want to counter that with Christian messaging doesn't mean we also have to accept other religions. Do you stop being a Christian when you involve yourself in politics? Does the 10 commandments stop being God's Word when you are in a secular setting?
They don’t get to promote the false doctrines
@@dustinnyblom7835 If you start having the Govt forbid all the other religions to post their documents in public places and only allowing Christians to post because Christianity the Govt says Christianity is the truth (which I believe it is), how is that not Govt endorsement of religion, clearly prohibited by the 1st Amendment?
@@sidwhiting665 because the document was written by Christians, in a Christian nation. The document does not allow for false religion to be expressed. It’s freedom in denomination, not in heresy preached. Go read Westminster confession of faith 24:3, and some of these men were apart of church’s that endorsed that at that time. Try to think in historical context about this
I am inclined to agree with you, Todd, yet I fully understand the sentiment behind the new law.
The laws of our country were based on the Ten Commandments and God’s Word is the truth. John 17:17
I’m thankful that Louisiana is posting the Ten Commandments.
I hope all the states post them.
How do you know that the laws of our country were based on the 10 Commandments?
@@jonathanmarks3112 I think the commenter was referring to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not all of our country's laws. Nobody would claim that, otherwise abortion, gay marriage, so-called hate speech, and other anti-Christian legislation wouldn't have ever been enacted.
@@willowbrook2717 OK, fair. However, my question still stands: how do you know that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are based on the 10 Commandments, @marlenechioda8290? The two founding documents share no overlap whatsoever with the 10 Commandments.
3:38 How can the state do its job without a standard, regardless of whether leaders are professing believers? If it isn't the ten commandments, it will be something else.
Nuetrality is a myth. Not whether a god will be in the school but which. Agree with you brother 👍
I said this could absolutely backfire.
You want a Copeland fan or a Phelps follower teaching your kids the meaning of ANYTHING out of the bible?
What happens when Muslims demand the 5 pillars of Islam up?
Do we put the protestant version or the cathoilic version of the 10 commandments? (Theyre not the same)
People really seem to miss that we are just sojourners here.. we to to be in the world, but not of the world.
Love you guys. Great video
Best response I've read.
This is why we need the church and the state to be separate. What if someone from other religions takes over the government and they want to then put up their scriptures in all public schools?
Having nothing is better than having falsehood taught to children.
I’m certainly going to think on this for a while.
I knew it didn’t seem right. Thank you Todd for clarifying my discernment. Now the floodgates will be open for false religions to post their beliefs. Ugh.
I think that we should post the ten commandments in our school's and the courthouse's again and everywhere else that it used to be? So that we can get back to the basic's again? And faithfully turn our country back around to the way it used to be. And get back in our church's and make America what it once was? Faithful and God fearing once again? And to show loyalty to Jesus Christ and God the father and the holy Spirit?
Are laws capable of producing that kind of reform? Wouldn't heart change be required instead?
I've often said that if we're going to salvage the freedoms we have as individuals in this country, we need to lead people to Christ. As John Adams said, we have a constitution for a religious and moral prople, its unfit for anyone else.
Why is it such a bad thing our governor Landry is doing the right thing children need to learn about GOD if we don't take our country back we will lose it
Todd, as a Christian myself, I have to be honest with you. With love, my brother, that was a terrible Ray Comfort impersonation.
If you or I commit a sin and bad things happen to us, then at least we know why. I have run into kids that can’t understand why bad things are happening to them and it’s from their own bad choices. They were never taught right from wrong. Will displaying the 10 commandment fix all the problems? No, but it at least a start.
So let me ask you this: let's say the 10 Commandments are posted in the classroom right next to a copy of the 5 Pillars of Islam, the Vedas, and the Upanishads. Would that be a net good or.... would it simply lead to religious pluralism furthered by a public university educated teacher who doesn't know anything about or respect the Bible?
I want my kids getting the truth of God's Word first from me, then from my church, and above all from the Bible itself. The pitiful job the public schools would do with it would be more damaging than good.
@@sidwhiting665 1.Our founding documents were not based on the other things you mentioned. 2. If they were there, you, your church, and the bible would still be there to teach them.
WADR, I disagree with every one of the points you attempted to make. Rather than make individual responses, I will hit at your original thesis. The "10 Commandments" and "The Bible" DO NOT belong to "Christians and Jews"! They belong to God as Creator and Author. It is the job of "The Church" to disseminate said information (see Matthew 28:18-20). Therefore, based on John 3:16, The Church is to disseminate to "WHOSOEVER" will read or listen!
Best response! Amen!
I was at a town hall meeting last night for a political candidate and some lady brought up this question. And I’m over here like why do you think it’s the government’s job to promote God’s word?!?! Like it sounds nice but we need LESS government intrusion people!! Goodness gracious. Always looking to the government for solutions to our problems
The public schools already teach religion. The real question is, "Why did we ever think religious neutrality was possible?"
Because Baptists.
The word of God has this exclusive promise: it will never return void! For that reason alone should we back this initiative to the nth degree! Yes, the evil one will try his worst to subvert it, to distract from it, to counteract it, yet we must give God our confidence and our obedience in His proven sovereignty!
But this is not relying on the sovereignty of God to fulfill His purposes. This is relying on the sovereignty of government. And, as Todd, and the apostle Paul, and countless generations of brothers and sisters who have suffered for Christ in other countries will attest, human laws do not bring people to repentance. What schools need isn't a plaque on the wall but sold-out believers with the Word chiseled on their hearts to make a difference. All this law will do is entice more sin and rebellion in the hearts of people who do not have the Holy Spirit, for without the Holy Spirit the things of God are foolishness to man. What this law will do is open the door to other religions that deny Christ to do the very same thing. And then we will be right back to where we were before a plaque was on the wall. Waiting on the sovereignty of God and His Spirit to help sinners discern truth from lies.
@@larryav8r - In a perfect world your solution is of course awesome and correct! Your words: " What our schools need is not a plaque on the wall, but sold out believers with the word chiseled on their hearts, to make a difference. " so will you allow your children or grandchildren to be those believers to make that difference? Most will not! Most have abandoned our public schools for the comfort of the Private Christian school or homeschooling to protect their children from the world and its indoctrination. In reality " for the comfort of themselves " Since the vast majority of parents are way too lazy to disciple their own children, this is where we are! The reality of our societal evils lies in our own disobedience to Christ and this command: " make disciples of all nations " Matthew 28:18-20!
@@paulrivalto1974 You make very good points. As someone whose wife is a christian school teacher, and who has two teenage sons in Christian schools, it does seem easy for me to say these things. But my point was more about what will make change not just in public schools but or our neighborhoods, our cities, and our nation. It's never going to be plaques, political parties, or laws. It will be believers sacrificially living out their faith wherever they are.
My wife and I send our kids to Christian schools not to shelter them but to prepare them for the world. To disciple them. They're certainly not sheltered when they go to the public pool, or go to work, or hang out with the their non-believing friends. It's our hope and prayer that Christian education won't be a shelter for them but a training ground to help them be the salt and light they will have to be whether they're under our roof or not. That's certainly the stated goal of the school we have chosen to send them to.
But even Chrisitan schools are no guarantee that your child is "protected" from worldly influences. A lot of the kids who attend my sons' schools are there solely because the parents want a safer place for their child to attend. They are not believers. They acquiesce to the requirements that their child must attend Bible classes and chapel but they certainly aren't there to disciple their kid.
We have many Christian friends who send their kids to public schools either because the can't afford private education or only the public schools have the AP courses their kids want to take. But I digress.
My original point was that we, as American Christians, have become too accustomed to having political clout and we're losing that influence. Instead of trusting God and doing what every other brother and sister around the world has had to do, find sufficiency in Christ, we're clinging to the idol of political power as if that is what has been our savior. We're lashing out in fear and anger and not trusting God.
@@larryav8r - So Larry...... begin now to " make disciples of all nations " become a disciple of Christ Jesus, to walk as a disciple in Christ Jesus, then to make still more disciples as Christ Jesus Himself demonstrated in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Even as a 68 year old evangelist, I myself have only been making disciples for 17 years now! Have been walking as a true child of Jehovah God for 38 years! Been an evangelist for over 35 years! Yet, in those 17 years God has given me 21 men ( John 17:4-6 ) to disciple and to " Rub Christ into them thoroughly" ( John 3:22 ) in that downline of men from those disciples! For they have continued discipling as I have as well! ( 2 Timothy 2:1-2 ). There are now some 3,500 plus men who are making disciples ( Matthew 28:18-20 ) as they deny themselves and take up their crosses daily to follow after Christ alone ( Luke 9:23 ) and being Christ's witnesses both in their Jerusalem, and in all of their Judea, and in their Samaria and too the uttermost! Their-Neihhbor, Their- Near, Their - Neglected, Their- Next. Psalm 128 gives us a brilliant picture of a man who effects the world around him with his obedience John 14:15 in his walk with God! I will begin evolving you and yours in my prayers from Ephesians 1:16-23 to finally realize and reveal who you truly are in Christ! Perhaps others will soon see who they can be in Christ as well! Be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus!!
@@larryav8r Only one solution to all of that! Become a disciple of Christ, making still more disciples in Christ as you witness of Christ to the world that God still so loves, ( Matthew 28:18-20, John 3:16-18, Acts 1:8 ) all the while denying yourself and taking up your cross daily to follow after Christ alone! ( Luke 9:23 ). John 14:15 sums all of this up!!
Reformed Baptists will recognition - 1689 LBC Catechism Question #5. May all men make use of the holy scriptures?
A. All men are not only permitted, but commanded and exhorted to read, hear, and understand the holy scriptures (John 5:38; John 17:17,18; Rev.1:3; Acts 8:30).
The second use of the law is to restrain evil but nobody is bringing that up that I can see in the comments. This is where the confessions are so helpful.
The issue I have with this idea is that with the way in which the U.S. is going, it's not going to have much of an effect on the people. If a citizen of Luisianna remains adamant on supporting abortion, transgenderism and same-sexmarriage, he's knowing the ten commandments isn't going to do anything.
This a bizarre take from a Christian. God’s Word is truth. Reading the truth, thinking the truth, seeing the truth…this is GOOD no matter who you are.
I agree 100% and am relieved to see someone sharing these reasons online. ❤ I've been thinking of some of these same reasons before this too. Unfortunately most Christians also don't seem to understand the commandments. Honestly "commandments" makes me cringe a little even, since learning the translation was supposed to be "utterances". But I too grew up knowing them as "commandments " as most do. I think even that significantly changes the character of God.
I was shocked when I started to read whole books of Torah front to back, how forgiving and loving God was because I was in Catholic school and church as a kid, and was taught that Catholics were Christians that appreciate God's "fire and brimstone" approach....turns out Catholicism is not faith in the whole Word. 😢
I don't trust most churches to teach my kids the correct "commandements"/utternaces and other Biblical meaning, we are very selective non-denominational followers of Christ.
I definitely don't trust the schools to teach this. Grateful my kids are homeschooled and yet we live in society with the majority being publically educated. We should pray for the best but be aware this cpuld be yet another trick to lead us deeper into the end- of-days-deception.
So when Moses came down from the mountain those tablets were a figment of imagination and not written by the finger of God? Until this comment I have never heard ANYONE suggest that the Ten Commandments were supposed to be "utterances". What does that even mean????? And would it have any effect on their importance, significance, or value? What part of "Thou shalt not kill (meaning murder)" is misunderstood?
Thou shalt not lie
Thou shalt not steal
Those belong in every class room
Why “thou” instead of “you?”
I disagree with you Todd. My hope is that seeing the 10 commandments posted will draw the curiosity of the children that aren't being taught in their own homes. We need exposure to inspire non believers.
I have the same hope, but I agree with Todd that there may be more potential harms given the power dynamic of a classroom. For example, how many bonafide Christian teachers are there? How many atheists? So when kid goes to ask about the Ten Commandments, what response do they receive? But I agree, God willing they’ll get the curiosity to pursue it and God will save them.
@@lukenath6983
Perhaps, but God's word will not return to Him void.
This is true. However, mankind may use God’s word to cause harm. I’m not saying one way is right or wrong, but I would err on caution
I went to school in the 70s in FL when they were pushing to force any teacher of any faith or no faith to teach creation. High school teachers saw it as a joke and a reason to pick on the Christian kids. @@lukenath6983
Our faith cannot be forced on others. Period. God brings his own to himself. He doesn't need government's help.
You’re great on some things Todd , but when it comes to how government in America works, it’s totally different from any other government in history. I don’t think you really understand how our government exactly works and was founded to work. You really need to go listen to WallBuilders and read their books and the founding documents written by the actual founders, explaining the reasoning behind what they did a good bit of it is in the federalist papers. That’s a good start and you would think totally different.
Jesus said, if you love Me! Keep My Commandments.
I agree with many of the points made, and I believe that it’s mostly empty pandering for the LA government to do this. But as long as they’re not misusing the Bible, I won’t say they should reverse this.
I’m in the middle on this one. Saying it opens the door to other religions… yeah it does but to be real other religions are the only ones already tolerated in public school. It’s anything but Christianity so if that’s all that some public kids will ever see at least it’s something. I don’t know. I do agree with some of your points. At the same token, Gods Word never comes back void. So I don’t know.
You can’t mix light and darkness. I agree with you 100%.
It's not mixing light and darkness to prioritize "light" in public spaces. That's like saying a politician can't implement policies reflective of his Christian beliefs because there are elements of politics that are "dark".
@@johnathanl8396the light is Jesus Christ, that is the only light. The issue is that Salvation comes through Jesus Christ. And we all know that secular schools can’t teach about Jesus Christ. Church and state are separate. I hope you understand it’s not about our opinion here, rather the enemy’s efforts of trying to water down the gospel. Whose agenda is this? Just think about it.
TRUE!!!!
I also agree with Todd and I work for the public school. Todd is proceeding with caution and posting these 10 commandments does not appear to be a wise move at this time.
@@cenoviaarroyo The Separation of Church And State Was To Protect The Church Not The State,Our Schools Started Out Teaching Kids To Read and Write From a Bible,All Our Early Schools Were Christian,Just Read Puritan History in America,Just think about it.
You are very funny! I won’t beat you up in the comments, but I would like to reassure you that since it is being done, there are handfuls of us devout Christians, who will try and guide each student in their journey to understanding the 10 Commandments.
The Ten Commandments are as fundamental as the laws of physics, if not more so. Obviously they should be taught in school, along with the gospel. Christianity should be central to the entire curriculum, not a poster on the back wall. My children will be going to an ACCS school. They’re not going to spend 8 hours a day learning about everything except the most important thing they could be learning about.
I had mixed feelings about it when I heard about it. I was leaning towards what you were saying but still mixed. But hearing you reason it out.. I agree 100%.
Hadn't thought about it this way before. Thanks. The separation of church and state was to keep the government from dictating religion. Just a thought
Perhaps it was to keep religion from dictating government. The American Constitution was written in response to Britain’s collaboration of state and religion supporting a monarchical system which gave kings ‘divine’ powers. Where man is involve there will always be room for misuse and abuse of power.
I hope that it will draw many to Christ. Yes many might rebel, but I believe that a few will be saved through it.❤🙏
I agree. I also do not want our gov writing and deligating prayers for schools. I dont trust the gov to do these things without denigrating them.
Absolutely and we as christians should not be deceived just because we want this to happen because it aligns with our beliefs.
My only concern with posting the Commandments of The Almighty is ...how many teachers are going to be lost when they spontaneously burst into flames in the presence of the Commandments?!
I, for one, agree with your position and supporting points. Just like prayer in the schools, I do not want the State to offer a mealy-mouthed, watered down, “ecumenical” prayer or summary of the Word of God.
Pastors and churches need to stand-up and stand out in proclaiming the Truth of the Gospel under the Authority of the Word of God. Too many churches and Christians are comfortable with “Cultural Christianity” (ala 1950’s) allowing it to take the edge off of our outreach and evangelism…leading to soft and “almost Christians”.
Scripture is not "ours" but God's, and it will not return void.
I agree with 2 and 3 for sure... no, I don't want some college educated atheist teacher answering ten commandments questions...
My thoughts too
@@Brian-Michigan so you don't value perspective and differing opinions? This is what it looks like to be indoctrinated folks.
Jesus fulfilled the Law, He did not abolish it!
It's the first step in destroying the idiotic precept that there is a separation between Church and State.
It's the catholic 10 commandments that takes out #2 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.
100% explains the Chosen series and all the effigies in their temples.
I never really understood this, not having idols is pretty much the same as have no other gods before me. There aren't really 10 if you read exodus and deuteronomy. Some lists of the 10 lump all the coveting ones together as one.
Have you forgotten God’s sovereignty? He is the one who watches over His Word to accomplish all He intends.
I'm in agreement with you. Those were my thoughts when I first heard about the legislation.
Couldn't agree with you more Todd! Well said!
Regardless, I'm just glad they kept the comment section on. In the past "wretched tv", turned off the comments to all their videos, glad to see there pride and pretentiousness on not nessacerly oppsing views, but just mere conversation between other people have opened up.
This is similar to the “bring prayer back to schools” issue. I wouldn’t want a teacher who may or may not be a Christian to lead my kids in prayer. Nor would I want them to teach my kids the 10 Commandments. Outside of the redemptive framework of the entire Bible, the 10 Commandments will be misconstrued as a legalistic to-do list.
I've been dying to say these things in my small town Bible belt community but I know that I will be ostracized. Not that I care for myself, but my grandsons live here, too...but they're not in the public schools, thank goodness.
I actually agree 100 percent. Just like we shouldn't want God's law in schools where it will be disrespected. We as Christians should not enter politics to make laws forbidding non-believers to live however they want.
What??! Then which laws should a Christian lawmaker make when he/she enters politics? Are there any laws anywhere that don't forbid non-believers, or believers for that matter, from living however they want? The logic in your comment is indefensible.
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Todd you should have said, "the students don't need to be reminded because the law is written on their hearts. Their conscience acuses and even excuses them when they break a commandment. It's a great witnessing opportunity and God can use this for that.
so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
There is inherently power in God's word to bring conviction and transformation. The word will accomplish it's purpose in spite of the moral decay around.
Interesting. When kids go to school these days they have to learn history and about things like the witch trials and other countries and their belief systems...
What item in the list of the ten commandments actually says something wrong? Yes it's from the Bible! It is a wonderful piece of what we believe in and I remember when they removed everything Christian from school. My teacher had to completely change the songs we sang with her in the mornings. Living through it I can say it's been downhill every since.
Having our kids (and teachers) seeing Christian teachings and laws is exactly what is needed. Enough with this secularism.
I’m still not exactly sure how I feel about this issue but I certainly respect your thoughts
"Lord of the Flies." I hated that book. I had to read it for High School English. I am traumatized. I must pray for the ability to forgive Paul for bringing up a traumatizing moment in my life. I will probably have nightmares tonight. Please pray for healing. ...Now what was this video about? Oh, yeah. I think you make some valid points, Paul.
Who's Paul?
But I agree "Lord of the Flies" is terrible and should not be classed as "literature"🤢
@@bonald8349 You know that Apostle guy. 😳Sheesh! guess he was in my mind. Sorry senility is setting in, sorry Peter, uhhh Jonh... oh, yeah! Todd! See, it's easy to get you mixed up, after all, Todd you are only good at 1 job...
@@geneilten6603 😄😄
Perhaps the 10 Commandments should be posted on Wall Street, places of business, corporate boardrooms, and be made a part of corporate policy. Just saying.
That aside, these commandments dont stop with instructing children. This leaves the door for others to make equal demands for excerptsfrom their own belief system to be made public.
I agree in part. Government sphere only intersects the church sphere where physical safety is concerned (think clean running water, proper sanitation, exit signs over doors). I'm ok with the government allowing Christianity inside schools, not ok with mandating it as such.
They aren't mandating Christianity. They are posting the Ten Commandments and helping to set guiderails for those that are in authority as well as the students.
I think its iffy..
When we had them up in my school, the teacher would say, ask your parents if there was a question. But to be fair, do we want the quran posted as well? Also, do we want the christian debate about, if we should keep a Jewish Sabbath, it is not for Christians.. 🤔
Yes, indeed we do need a moral code established..
Maybe it is the only way to get back to it..
I feel the same way about prayer in schools. Not everyone is a Christian. Do I want a teacher who might be Muslim, Wiccan, Jewish, Morman, Jehovah's Witness, etc. to oversee or possibly lead my Christian child in prayer? What kind of influence would they have in the types of prayers offered? Why can't Christian parents just pray with their children at home? Why involve the schools?
I also agree with Todd and I work for the public school. Todd is proceeding with caution and posting these 10 commandments does not appear to be a wise move at this time.
Yeah well, Todd is 100% wrong because his argument in based on an entirely false premise. He says the 10 Commandments belong to Christians and Jews, but the Bible says that these are _God's_ laws. They don't belong to any human being. If they did, then humans are in a position to dictate what is inherently right or wrong. God plainly states in Deuteronomy that children ought to be educated in His laws, so Todd is preaching rebellion.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I think you make a good point about the commandments belonging to God, not any group of people. All humans are under God's law. However, to say Todd is 100% wrong & "preaching rebellion" is way out of line!
Really fantastic points, you completely changed my mind on this and what you have said makes total sense. The world is not what it once was, here's hoping we can save our children the right way, God bless.
I agree, I'm not a fan of this law either. "But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God." - 2 Cor 4:2
I can only imagine how many teachers who disagree with this will twist the scripture and lead people astray. That's my concern. False teachers and wolves...this opens a huge door for that.
Exposure to Gods law is bad for the gospel? Its part of the gospel. Our government was meant to be submitted to Christ, else it has no limits, which is what we are observing. Psalm 2 says it all. Jealous? Historical Document? It is a historical document, like it or not. I can't tell if he's actually making arguments here, but this is all mushy thinking that def needs rigour beyond RUclips comments.
100% Todd.
It’s the family and churches job not the government to teach morality schools are for reading, writing, and ciphering. Yep if we open this to schools other religions will follow suit.
I may have to AGREE with you 🧐 I don’t trust public schools with ANYTHING…let alone my child or the 10 commandments!!
My concern would be if we go back to posting religious items in the classroom, it won't be long before other religions documents show up: the 5 Pillars of Islam, the Vedas, etc. Todd is right that our nation is no longer culturally Christian, so once you start posting one religion's text(s), others will creep in ... eventually.
I don't want my kids forced to learn the Qur'an. So I'll return the favor to others and not force them to learn mine. And I definitely don't want a public school teacher attempting to teach my kids the 10 Commandments. After all the university indoctrination, I doubt they'd understand it.
Shall we remove,”in God we trust” from our money too? I am usually in agreement with you, but not this time.
The “in God we trust”, is actually referring to the god of this world, Satan. The back of the dollar bill has the pyramid with the all seeing eye. Billy Crone talks about that.
These have been my arguments for why we should be at the very least hesitant if not against this.
My concern is that other religions, cults, etc. will contend that under the equal access act (1984) they too can display their “law.”
I came with an open mind, but I’ll admit my first thought was this is a good thing, but you’ve done a great job in really challenging that view. I’m with you on this now and actually, my view on the commandments has just been strengthened. God bless you and your channel 🙏🏼
All of your reasons are spot on valid.
I must also ask this, WHICH 10 commandments are they referring to, the Christian ones or the Catholic ones?
They are not interchangeable.
My father once made this wise observation: If truth is in the arena, truth will win out. I think that would apply to your argument of an atheist teacher trying to explain them. The Ten Commandments were once hung on every public school and courthouse because it is our country's foundation in two ways. Morality is what is being legislated, and they are a check on bad behavior. Children would understand why some Christian businesses are closed on Sunday, and why Muslims attack Israel on Saturdays. These roots run deep. You are looking at this very superficially.
100 percent in agreement!
Thank you, Todd. You've given me a different perspective on this and I have to say I agree with you
I completely agree with you. The one argument that most caught my attention was that if Christian beliefs can be displayed than so could other religions as well as satanist stuff. And THAT would be very distracting for students. I worked in the public school system for 18 years and what goes on in most classrooms is far from conservative. Teachers very much impress their own beliefs upon students. If I had young children this day and age I would keep them far away from public school. It is a very toxic environment. I would go home after a days work saying things like, " I survived another day." ugh... And Im an adult thats not so easily influenced like young impressionable children are.
I am proud of you for telling the truth! I kind of had a gut feeling that it wouldn't be a good idea to put the 10 Commandments in in public schools but until watching this video I really couldn't articulate why. Calling the Ten Commandments a moral code is like calling Jesus a moral teacher, technically true but insufficient.
Todd, Even if those legislators are Christian? What about preach the gospel to all nations? Hanging the Ten Commandments is classrooms goes a long way toward that.
If that’s your intent with this, then it is explicitly unconstitutional.
@@Kaddywompous it's unconstitutional to establish A church such as the church of England or the Church of America. It is not unconstitutional to express Christian values in the course of governing. Almost all the founding fathers did so without being questioned about bei g constitutional.
@@bock1965 That’s not what you described. You said hanging the commandments goes towards preaching the gospel. That’s explicitly religious and forbidden by the first amendment.
@@Kaddywompous you do not understand the constitution . Hanging the ten commandments is not establishing A church.. Establishing a church would be if congress said every body in the country had to belong to a certain church. Like saying everyone has t be a member of a Baptist church. Or if congress said the national church is the Lutheran church and it would be the only one that congress would endorse. Hanging the ten commandments in schools would only reflect the over all Christian faith of the founders not say that only one form of Christianity was the right one. You my friend have been deceived by the world i you believe the constitution says anything at all about separation of church and state . It does not.
@@bock1965 And you should read the first amendment. It says nothing about establishing a church, but “establishing religion”, something a public school mandating the display of a religious document explicitly does. Explain to courts that have struck this type of thing down for decades that they don’t understand. Explain to Thomas Jefferson that HE didn’t understand when he said that the first amendment meant “a wall separation of church and state.”
ALL THINGS for the GLORY OF GOD!!!
Government shouldn't be the source of faith and you can't force faith on a populace.
I agree with you Todd. I call what you have shared as wisdom. God bless you! 🙏🏼
That is why the 10 NEED to be displayed everywhere!
If this was the 1960’s, sure. The only group of people that could organize nationwide would be the Christians. But we’re living in a different day and age now with social media and any group of people can get organized now. You’re gonna see them trying to get their views posted in the schools as well.
I have nothing to add - well said, Todd!
At no point in the Bible did Christ tell Christians to take over the Roman Empire and enforce Biblical laws onto Rome. Being a Christian is not about taking over governments and forcing Christianity onto people. It's about how we treat people and showing them that they need Christ to save them from their sins.
This nation has enjoyed the greatest blessings of any nation on earth because it was founded unashamedly on biblical principles as an overtly Christian nation. As this nation’’s identity and faith have changed, our society has plummeted. At any early point in our history, no one would have blinked over a sign of the 10 commandments or any other scripture proudly displayed on any building, and they often were used. In many of these older buildings, “progressives” launched campaigns to eradicate the offending scripture. The Constitution wasn’t written for and can never be maintained by an immoral government and society: it assumes a Judeo-Christian citizenry.
What do you call the Great Commission, then? Make disciples, teach them to obey. That's what we are supposed to do.
@@annemurphy9339, I don't have anything against a teacher posting the Ten Commandments in the classroom voluntarily. I'm saying that it shouldn't be forced.
@@martygriffin1820, teach them to obey. Not force them.
@@jamesjohnson1050 So, if we are going to establish laws and a government, should we use a Christian standard or a heathen one? Is posting the Ten Commandments and telling people that one day the Lord will judge them based on those a good or bad thing? If we can get them to understand the Law, and their guilt based on it, we can share the Gospel and lead them to Christ!
On one hand, it seems like Louisiana is doing the right thing with this law. However, on the other hand, one could argue they are also committing a blatant violation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution by respecting an establishment of religion (Christianity, in this case). I do not see this law sticking around too long. One lawsuit and it's as good as gone.
The reason I say this is simple: all you have to do is convince the courts that this law forces schools to respect a certain religion above all others in direct violation of the First Amendment. This would be very easy given that the Ten Commandments are from the Bible, which can and will be interpreted, by those giving suit, as a religious text. At that point the courts have no choice but to strike the law down, lest they open up the possibility of government-run schools becoming religious battlegrounds, to the detriment of all involved. I do not believe young children should be subjected to that at all. For this reason, I am in favor of this law getting struck down by the courts.
Feel free to disagree, but be prepared with a good rebuttal.
The second use of the law brother Todd. This is copied and pasted from ligonier but is taught in the reformed confessions and applies here.
"A second purpose for the law is the restraint of evil. The law, in and of itself, cannot change human hearts. It can, however, serve to protect the righteous from the unjust. Calvin says this purpose is “by means of its fearful denunciations and the consequent dread of punishment, to curb those who, unless forced, have no regard for rectitude and justice” (Institutes 2.7.10). The law allows for a limited measure of justice on this earth, until the last judgment is realized."
There are a lot of musicians/singers who use the word of God, who don't believe in God but use him to make more money and fame for themselves.