@@quentinsummers2531 How dare you talk about the ethnicity of Paul, Peter, Luke, Mark, Matthew, Joseph, Mary, David, Moses, Jacob and Abraham. How dare you man. Just keep letting them print your money and worship one of them in your church.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
This video could also open your eyes to the change you have to make to adapt to the times. It's like holding back the hands of time and claiming you have stopped time.
As if they’re comparable. Carthaginians were one of the most integrated populations in Western part of the Roman Empire and North Africa had some of the wealthiest provinces. They were not some losers lacking in culture and history nor were they stagnant. They were never enslaved en mass and they were not particularly inclined to entertain fantasies of greatness. They were great.
@AlexIncarnate911 Agreed, but it's still fun to imagine Carthage battling Wakanda. Maybe that's why they lost their wars with Rome? Hannibal had just defeated the Black Panther before his military turned to face Scipio. So his military was exhausted. Damn Wakanda! Carthage could never catch a break, because of you!
G K Chesterton the English writer who was a Catholic convert and apologist (Father Brown series) used to argue that Christianity got blasted from both sides - when it was muscular and militant it got blasted for that (Crusades,colonialism etc ) and when it touted forgiveness, meekness and pacifism it got blasted for being that. They can't win!
All these religions with Abrahamic faiths are like this. They are actually just copies of each other. Analogues. No matter what defense these religions may try to see other believe or make a defensive stance or take that they are not the same. Trust me. The Human violations and values are still ingrained into the minds of these people.
Rome would have survived had it not had widespread slavery, and therefore industrialized more (they had the steam machine figured out after all, just like the Aztecs had the wheel but didn't use it)
Dude, you’ve got a gift for this type of thing. I’ve listened to you off and on for a while now and I’m always amazed by how you present your thoughts. Never stop what you’re doing.
Of course christianity wasn't the cause of the empire's fall. The eastern roman empire stayed until 1453 with orthodoxy while the heretic western catholics fell a millenium prior. Also Nietzche was a mason so this video is biased af
Not Christianity… it was meant as a weapon to subvert the unstoppable Roman drive… but Romans caught on to it, pivoted to adopted it as their own weapon. Now their empire (in hiding) is 2.5BN strong… 2000 year later. All the splinters and spin-offs of Christianity that exist today, such as J’ Witnesses, SDAs, etc… are all attempts to thin the trunk of Roman Catholicism, by drawing Catholics into smaller armies that challenge and fight Rome from every front, especially through infiltration (ie. Jesuits).
This was in my opinion the most important video you have published. We need more voices to talk about some of these truths of our world. Truth must be told no matter how hard some find to accept it. No matter how much some people hate to hear it. No matter how "extreme" some find it.
This is the first time I have ever heard that from someone in the Anglo-Saxon world. Here, in the Czech Republic, this is rather common opinion as we see christianity and wokeism this way, but it is rare to hear it in English.
@@petrmaly9087 It's mainly due to deracination. It's easier to see when you have a living ethnic heritage and history. America was founded by some of the most Jewish denominations of Christianity imaginable. So we've been faggot-oped into this larp of left vs right, when in reality it's not only just different shades of this abstract liberalism, but it's ultimately about tikkun olam 1.0 vs tikkun olam 2.0. We've lost most of our British(Brythonic, Saxon & Gaelic) folk ways and values since we've not only been separated from the isles for so long, but as I said before, the founders were puritan, so anything not Jewish(biblical) in origin is seen as satanic racial idolatry. When you're still in touch with your land, history, culture, spirits, and even Gods to an extent via the "saints", it's very easy to notice the parallels, because you recognize the ultimately foreign outside origin of it(christianity/wokeism).
@@Name-ib7wu Ireland was under strong influence of the Anglo-Saxon culture for many centuries, part of the UK for a long time, the northern region is still part of the UK to this day. And the cultural references he makes are US-centric.
they were making fun of dionysus and paganism, it had nothing to do with the last supper. the fact that you thought it was about the last supper means youre incapable of identifying the very themes recycled to create christianity..
Fear not, romanphile! I heard men can become pregnant now thanks to modern technology! You can know make your polygamous gau Roman utopia with only men and no beasts that are women or slaves.
You’re incorrect. First converts of Christianity involved people from all strata. There were tax collectors, Roman centurions, women, fishermen, doctors, aristocrats, bureaucrats, slaves, priests…. All groups of people. You’re fooled and given false information here. The fall of Rome happened because of its infestation with sins, injustices and sodomy. Christianity grew when Romans were already falling apart.
the cycles of history, explained in such a fashion that my entire world view is questioned. do not stop this gentleman, the dissent is utterly needed , now more than ever
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
We are angry because this is a misrepresentation of what Christianity is. What we actually believe this is a real educated response. ruclips.net/video/It2juWi9qfU/видео.html
This video is probably done in jest, though Edward Gibbon might have agreed with it. The problem is that Rome did not fall as we were taught in school. The western Empire crumbled, but the East lived on for 1000 more years and it was the East where Christianity was strongest. Charlemagne United much of the old Western Empire under Christianity and if the Byzantine elite had allowed him to marry Byzantine Irene, the Empire would have been reunited. And then there is the argument that Moscow is the third Rome since so much of Christian literature and culture was moved there from Constantinople to Moscow in anticipation of a Muslim conquest. As long as an ethos promoted the family as the cornerstone of society, there will be stability and growth. This woke ideology is anti family at its core.
Correct. It’s the anti natalism of Rome and the woke of today that Christianity stands against. Go forth and multiply. You don’t hear that much anymore.
The Eastern Empire limped and lingered on for 1000 more years, torn apart by constant civil war, religious infighting, palace intrigue, and constant Turkish and Arab raids. Hardly an example of Christianity strengthening the state.
@@jackhallander6706 they lasted while the West fell. Despite constant threats from the outside, they endured. You don't limp along for 1,000 years. They also managed to convert the Rus and the Slavs.
Rome did fall. Rome was the people of Rome. Anybody not of roman blood is a poser wearing the name and tradition as a larp to get notoriety and a sense of authority. It's like immigrants coming to the US or England and claiming that name. They aren't. Never will be.
Too bad his narrative is wrong. The „middle class roman“ he described didn’t exist at all. Dude is just projecting current issues onto history with no regard for actual historical facts. Absolute joke
A lot of great discussion in these comments. I am an ethnic Greek so I was raised an Orthodox Christian, later becoming lukewarm in my teenage years. But in early adulthood I came back to the faith with zeal.... until recently. Through research and much thinking, the religion is starting to look like an anti-life, anti-European death cult. Let me explain: In Orthodoxy (The supposedly traditional and "based" version of Christianity according to many online) the greatest gift one can get in this life is a holy death, the thing one is supposed to look forward and yearn for is death, remaining a virgin IS BETTER than having children, one is supposed to abstain from sex for at least half of the year when married (with clerics often urging traditional and pious couples to stop having sex altogether so they can live "Like brother and sister"). Even the aesthetic of Orthodoxy is based around skulls, dead bodies and somber themes. The more I think about it, Christianity (Orthodoxy especially) just seems like a death cult. Not to mention the cuckold morality of "Turn the other cheek, love your enemies and submit to your masters" and the supposed "Chosen" status and racial supremacy of the Jewish people spoke about through scripture in contrast with the racial egalitarianism pushed on the gentiles in the same book. I really want to learn more about neo-paganism. Being Greek, my ancestors have a strong mythos but I don't really know where to begin...
Idk about orthodoxy but in Catholicism sex is 100% celebrated so long as it's chaste, that's to say within marriage, open to life, etc. Celibacy is also celebrated if you're called to it. If you're called to marriage and for some reason choose to be celibate- that's not good. Regarding turn the other cheek- this seems like cuck/weakling mentality ONLY IF youre thinking about the material world and material conflict. Christianity is the only religion really that emphasises that the war, the real war behind all of reality, is a spiritual war. In this conflict human beings are not so much the actors but the territory that the war is fought over. Winning a human soul over is an ultimate victory- while killing a human is a tragedy, as any destruction of God's creation is a win for Satan- violence then can only ever be a solution in rare circumstances where it's the lesser of two evils and there's no other solution (e.g. the whole of Christendom is threatened by invasion). This is why non violence and grace, for the ultimate sake of converting your attacker is actually an extremely violent move, except it's targeted at the real enemy, the evil forces within your attacker. If you strike back, you're playing into the enemy's hands
until people realize that all these sources of moral degeneration have the same authors and sources nothing will really change. Who wrote the bible? A group of rabbis. Who wrote the communist manefesto? A child to a long linage of rabbis.. Who were the bolsheviks again?
I think this speaks to the cyclical nature of Empires. No empire can last forever. You've seen the meme... 'Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.'
@theoddone887 you think you are a master but your people will be slaves soon, your people came from the caves as n3anderthals, and you only took over because your father s@tan gave you the power. But judgment is coming
The master likes to smell his own farts. Newsflash Xanthus … you’re just a wage slave like the rest of us and you’ll never really be a “master”. Aesop was the slave and was always smarter anyway.
This was so good! I had a philosophy teacher who used to fully put himself into both sides of a thought experiment. You could never tell his real stance on anything. And it was amazing because you could fully immerse yourself and see through the eyes of the “other “. It’s incredible way to learn and understand. Well done, sir.
As someone who studied history, your narrative is interesting, predominantly factual and very real for the day. People should take the religious connotations out of the early christian forced conversion of the late Roman Empire. It was entirely political in nature and brought an internal division to that society (just like the present day U.S.) that condemned and punished anyone that didn’t agree with it or wanted to hang on to the old values. It was embraced by the urban and political elites, in which riots would occur in the cities in which statues that represented the old gods and values were torn down and temples were pillaged without any consequence. Sound familiar? This woke/christian movement that inflicted the late Roman Empire was not the only reason for its collapse. That being said, it was a huge contributor. Not because of its teachings, BECAUSE OF THE INTOLERANCE to others who disagreed. Just like today’s woke movement, it caused a division in that society that allowed it to rot from within, before it collapsed to external forces.
@@ghengiskhan9308 The semites and the rest of the slaves first promoted wokeness and then Christianity after the moral had been broken down. Same as today.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
@@ostae any truth that requires you to be brainwashed as a child is no truth. No better than the woke commies indoctrinating our kids in the current year.
Read Ceasar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill. The Histories by Tacitus. Agricola and Germania by Tacitus The Secret History by Procopius. The Story of the Goths by Henry Bradley. The Getica by Jordanes The History of the Anglo-Saxons v1-3 by Sharon Turner The Saxon Savior by G. Ronald Murphy, S.J. Ireland's Immortals by Mark Williams A Classical Trivium Education - Books on Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric - Which is rooted in ancient Pagan Greece. - Replaced in 1918 with "Taditional" education. More modern books for you to read: The Positive Philosophy by Auguste Compte Age of Reason by Thomas Paine The Founding Myth by Andrew L. Seidel
I think this is conflating two things: the decadent stage of empire, where the heartland becomes ruled by the slaves, and Christianity. If Christianity were causal here you would not see the rise of many western Christian empires after the fall of Rome. Christianity contains wokeness/weakness within it, but it also contains strength. It is a full picture of the world. Societies are stronger when they care for the weak ---- this may be hard to see given our current cartoonish manifestations of wokeness, but it's true.
@Regionaltyrann there is no such thing as ‘Christian law’ it changes in every historic context. It is not the same as Islam. It was definitely christian influenced though. (Less rights for female inheritance under the franks than under Germanic groups). Sure the succession laws were Germanic, but there is no such thing as a universal christian succession law. Regardless. The Frankish empire was definitely more Christian than the 3rd century Roman Empire. So the argument more cucked=more Christian makes no sense.
@@Tonixxy the Spanish empire barely practiced Christianity???? ????? The Russian empire barely practiced Christianity🤣🤣🤣🤣 these are among the most zealous empires of any religion ever.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 02:07 *🔍 Nietzsche argued that Christianity was the "woke movement" of the Roman Empire, challenging conventional views.* 05:44 *🏛️ Rome's demographic changes led to social and religious tensions, with immigrants and slaves bringing new beliefs and customs.* 08:35 *🛡️ Christianity was seen as a threat by traditional Romans due to its appeal to the disenfranchised and its undermining of Roman virtues.* 11:20 *💭 Christianity was perceived as a tool for the disempowered to seek vengeance against the Roman elite.* 16:26 *🚺 Upper-class Roman women were attracted to Christianity due to its perceived emotional appeal and rejection of Roman masculinity.* 18:02 *⚔️ Christianity's gradual infiltration of Roman institutions eventually led to the suppression of traditional Roman beliefs.* 20:07 *🏛️ The Christian revolution in Rome resulted in the destruction of Roman culture and the onset of a dark age.* 22:36 *📜 Rome's collapse revealed the true consequences of the Christian revolution, leading to a profound loss of civilization.* Made with HARPA AI
"Christianity is the grandfather of bolshevism/communism" and essentially all liberal thought. Best said by Oswald Spangler. It most definitely is when you look at the economy between the Old and New testaments and actions they took against Gentile Nations
Yep, 100%. Literally it dissolved all the Europeans people identities/cultures and globalized them under one religion and made all their ancestral religions illegal as worship of false idols. Proto cultural Marxism
Are you on drugs? Marx famously called religion “the opium of the masses”, communism was strongly anti theism, Mao and Stalin and every great communist leader was athiest.
What if I told you we ancestors didn’t worship the pantheon as Gods but venerated them as great ancestors? What if I also told you that our ancestors did worship an single all encompassing God? Read the Oera Linda Book.
An unfortunate theme across most religions. If you can't beat someone physically, beat them ideologically. Both are wills to power in different venues. Only a holy man could have higher status than a king.
I don t agree with the so called conqueror/roman virtues but you made a very good point.The argument against the heroic virtues is not about moral superiority, is about cunning and stealth vengeance in form of moral superiority.
@@mirceazaharia2094 If the wolves threaten your home, you do not let them get stronger and kill your sheep unmolested. What you do is you grab your spear, you grab your brothers, and you go and kill the wolves that threaten your community. After all, is that not what one is meant to do? To protect themselves from the darkness? This is not another biblical quote; this is simple notions of strength and defiance against the untame who exploit the vulnerable innocent and wish to infest your home.
"No more brothers wars", yeah... f*ck that, just destroy your european neighbor and get into endless selfdestructive war profited by "foreign" bankers, that's the way!
Sir I love what you are teaching here. I just subscribed to your channel this morning and Im taking notes for inspiration. Keep doing what you're doing. You've enlightenment me greatly.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
Atone for your ancestors' sins of colonizing the Muslims (never mind how Islam spread by sword across North Africa, Anatolia, and the Levant). It's only right the most common Brussels newborn's name is Mohamed.
Christianity was indeed Rome's woke movement. I watched your interview with Adam Green, it was great! wish you'd go on there again. Love your videos dude.
Adam Green who runs away as soon when you ask him whether Jews consider Jesus Messiah? That Adam Green? The subversive cryptoJew who admitted he cares more about dismantling Christianity than Zionism Adam Green? The same one that ignored centuries of Christian persecution of Jews? Who codify them in the Bible as cursed and of Satan? I think you should reevaluate what people you're following, because they do not have your best interests in my mind. Stop being lazy and stop being taken advantage of by people who thrive on your ignorance.
Uberboyo said himself in a interview with church of eternal logos this video wasent made to be taken seriously and was more a collection of thoughts that he had about a roman at that time period. But no it was not romes woke movement it was actually the Romans who were woke if you know your history.
Well roman paganism was just paganism. The western part of the empire was always paganism and heresy with catholicism. No wonder orthodoxy stayed longer.
The recent book "The Final Pagan Generation" goes also into this (although it doesn't directly name wokeism by its name, but it also shows how the Christians nagged their way to power). Also reminder that we don't have to believe in our Old Gods -- we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves. If it's important at all, I am sure eventually future generations will also genuinely start to believe facets of it. You can easily reason that a certain god is just a metaphysical aspect of nature, vs. all these being united in a single god.
"we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves" Pagan gods turned into anime girls and used to monetize the sexual repression of lonely men? _Big Tiddy Zeus_
Quite impossible. Infact that is, a very christian thing to say. The ‘pagan’ culture was a product of their divinity and it will never fit into a christian worldview. As someone who has already noted, the best it can be are marvel/dc movies. Totally divorced from its divinity, the ‘culture’ is made into a caricature. Philosopher Ram Swarup noted that any such ‘culture’ present in Abrahamism today are remnants of the ‘culture’ they so brutally destroyed.
I was actually thinking about something like this earlier today. Even as a practicing Orthodox Christian, I wonder, is a Middle Eastern desert religion really the best thing for the European soul? Maybe I should hit up my ancestor's old home boy, Zamolxis. I'm sure he hasn't gotten any prayers or votive offerings in a good long time. I still greatly respect Jesus, though.
@@MK_ULTRA420 FUCK NO. I'm thinking we need to hijack the anime style (at least its style from the 80's) and make our own cartoons, with European and American cultural values (not the woke ones), instead of being force fed Japanese values. Anime really feels alien and weird to me nowadays, ever since I realized that it is, after all, a foreign export. I find most of it unwatchable, because of its different cultural values, and excessive sexuality. Very few of them are still watchable to me, the older ones more specifically, and very few modern ones, like Saihate no Paladin.
*Woke 1* - Christianity (Rome, turn the other cheek) *Woke 2* - Communism (Europe, give up wealth) *Woke 3* - Wokism (West, give up descendants) … and our children will inherit the world!
@@scientificreactions7938 Is it the Tongs or the Hand that’s faulty of playing with fire? Creating a fake religion to make your competitors idle in the art of money making, it means you have monopoly over finances and can easily mobilize them to carry your water. Is it really Bush and America that ventured into Middle East? Is it really Ukrainians that want the war? Im sure you can think of other situations. Is it UA that really getting the billions of $? Proxy armies continue to this day… BLM, Anti Fa, “European” Celebrities, “European” Porn idols, DEI Committees in every Corporation, etc. Who destroyed the world? Why, the unchained loose morals of the West of course! When you want no recourse for dirty work, you use gloves… conditioned to be your tools and take the blame, for little money up front.
@@scientificreactions7938 It absolutely was woke, the entire justification was to "civilise the savages" (help the weak) and convert them to Christianity
@@scientificreactions7938 And what did they do? Oh they tried to teach the apes how to read the Bible. Those very same apes who today run rampant in our society.
Also slaves were not spreading Christianity as whole households took the religion of the master in the Roman empire. Slaves were not free to travel between towns or walk the streets, saying things, spreading ideas, that could reflect badly on their masters. The slave idea is based on modern individualist thinking where each member of the household had his own religion and views if he wanted.
This is extraordinary and unique insight. Super interesting! Love the original thinking. It’s been years since I’ve come across something cutting edge and thought piercing
This video is incredibly powerful and the message contained takes bravery to consider. I for one have never heard Christianity compared to wokeism in quite this way, and to hear the historical dates and figures made it that much more real.
I often use a similar argument when stating all art is inherently degenerate. People turn to art as far back as we forget the outrage attached. Most renaissance art was scandalous. Most roman statues were met with protests and even riots at such public degeneracy. But because we forget or don't look up to see the reaction it had to it's contemporary people most folks don't realise that the statue of David is literally the Pisschrist of it's era.
Christianity in itself is an extremely subversive ideology, after all their origin is Judaism - hence Judeo-Christianity. The conservatism came later as a result of Christianity's alliance with the feudal nobility that ruled Europe, which was extremely based and still Pagan at heart. But if you look closely, conservatism was always just a facade, after all liberalism did grow out of the Christian ideology - all early liberals being devout Christians. You can even make the leap and say that Christianity reverted to it's original form and became the Wokeism of present day.
@@bashkillszombies It absolutely is not, what possible evidence do you have for this? You're just moving the goal posts to make it seem like EVERYTHING is just relative and on a spectrum. Michelangelo's David it is not comparable to the modern city council controlled public spending on a specifically politically correct art piece just to virtue signal.
@@kksch2176 I have the feeling that, while as you say conservatism might of been a façade for Christianity during the period of 500-1400AD you could say it was to gain and convert the Germanic areas, which is when Christendom really rocketed in power and started it's crusades and kingly "Jerusalem" esq rule over Europe. But I feel as though for Europe itself Christianity is just a facade too, it's never followed the letter of the bible, and when it has those people have often been banished or persecuted, Christianity has just been like a spiritual elitism that has claimed credit for everything good and pious that Europe has done. The spell seems to be breaking though, however maybe not in a good way, Christianity is coming to it's natural conclusion has Nietzsche described. .
@@afşînmalatîturkî Islam is where his narrative breaks down, because the idea that Islam brought weakness is completely implausible, considering that Islam conquered one of the largest empires ever starting from a bunch of desert nomads in about 200 years.
@@jotteredits But it can't go on like this. Every conquering empire, movement, religion or ideology is desperate to maintain at least one enemy, and find more areas to conquer. Eventually, it turns its aggression inwards on itself and self-destructs. The capacity for aggression is vital and must be used wisely. Letting it run unchecked results in suic-ide. Islam will reform into something more viable for its current age. It will have to, in order to survive. Its outward aggression is not going to be tolerated much longer.
I would recommend the book The Final Pagan Generation by Edward J. Watts. I'm halfway through it and there is quite a bit of similarity between these old times and the modern world.
What I'm gathering is that the modern day Roman Empire isn't the United States, it's the entire Western World: North America being the newer dominant Western half (aka the Latin portion) and Europe being the older Eastern half (aka the Greek portion). Just like with Rome, the Western portion (America, Canada and you can even include the entire Anglosphere in this) is almost certainly going to implode before the Eastern portion (Western Europe) does. So if you live in Europe, enjoy the fireworks over here. You're up next.
Interesting speculation, but a key point here is that Christianity from a very early stage had doctrine pretty well defined, reinforced constantly by traditions which its practitioners zealously guarded. The woke movement reinvents itself every two years, even its own adherents can’t keep up at times.
This is not really true. During the first two centuries of Christianity there absolutely was no consistent doctrine. It would have seemed far more like your second point, constantly reinventing itself and very hard to keep up with. The early movement is marked by constant debate and infighting over theology.
Man, excellent video. I'm Greek. Can you imagine how it is to figure out that ALL your history is distorted and built on lies? They've even changed the Greek words that are full of wisdom to fit the narrative... I often bring up this comparison woke/Christian myself we live in very fragile times. All was organised and directed, it was a power grab from within. Exactly like our times.
it’s sad how Christianity took over Greece when it was literally the the birthplace where high philosophy, science, and spirituality of the west was born. Early Greek philosophers like Celsius saw Christianity for what it was but in the end they failed 😢
@@tsurugi5 it's ok, it used to piss me off until I realised that everything goes in circles... It's the natural flow of things.... We still have our "out of the system" philosophy schools in Athens... Of course it has nothing to do with how philosophy is taught in Universities in Greece or outside of Greece... We keep it burning...
For people who understand the scriptures which would exclude you and the clown who made the video we know it's not even remotely true... When dealing with stupid people i'e you deception is a breeze!
@@alechboy3578 do you have proof, or do you just enjoy empty threats and lofty moral superiority? Maybe more people would listen if you argued from facts instead of "you're gonna burn in Dante's Inferno because I don't like your opinion!" Trust me, I want to believe in a higher purpose of this existence, but how am I to pick the thousands of angry teachings, all saying theirs is the right one with no proof?
Roman empire: I'm just the best, half of the world is mine, how powerful I am! Poor fishermans club: **destroys it without any force or muscle power, but with pure Love and compassion, willingly dying on crosses** Roman empire: REEEEE, that's against the rules!
Christianity arose in the same way wokeism did by the elites switching their allegiance overnight and becoming crypto-Christians and then slowly normalizing it and cancelling everyone that spoke out against it until it became the state religion. You think all those persecution stories are actually real?
Pure love and compassion? You mean when they murdered and tortured the greek and roman pagans who went to their temples and who still worshipped their gods? When they destroyed their temples and turned them into brothels and stables?
One of the more radical realizations, or epiphany's if you prefer, you'll have as you seriously consider religion, or the 'woke' march through the institutions is how uncannily similar it is to the rise of Christianity, when the penny finally drops as to the true nature of the cult of Christ you will understand how alien it is to Europe.
Ah yes, not a balancing mechanism that made Europe even greater than Rome ever was - - but "an alien" to Europe. The European masculinity tempered with the flames of the Christian femininity is what created Europe that was able to rule the World.
if the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire then how come every country which based its laws and governments on the Roman Empire and Republic like France, America, Britain, copied the system of pagan Rome, mostly admiring Caesar and Augustus, and not the Byzantine system? This also includes medieval Christian kings who idolised Caesar
@@dealvarado4783 So what? Justianian and Theodora still remain one of the best roman king-queen duo that existed in history and Eastern Roman Empire(Byzantine) >>>>>Western Roman Empire.
@@zekun4741 because Eastern Rome had like 1000 years more of completely separate development of legal system lol. During the collapse of western part their legal systems had only minor differences. Its not a valid argument you made their.
You lost to Muslims in spite of remaining pagan🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 700 years of Muslim domination. Maybe if you had converted it might have done you some good in stopping them.
'It's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion-a “religion of men”-and hygienic too.
And they choose to have a jewish messiah. Isn't it interesting? Christianity appeared after the romans destroyed the second jewish temple in 70 ad. And the jewish messaiah had its revenge. :D
Thank you for this take - I would pay good money for a whole series on similar themes - especially your thoughts on Jungian thought applied for Eastern ideas especially of the Vedic nature being an affectionato of the latter. Would love to support your efforts on a Patreon or equivalent. Much pleasure enjoying your video essay.
I was raised Roman Catholic and I've been questioning religion over the past years. This made me realize things more and surely religion itself needs a lot of improvements and updates. This is one of the reasons I'm beginning to turn to others like Neopaganism. This is quite a food for thought.
Don't apostasise, my friend. Christianity was nothing like the woke movements of today - it is not an inversion of morality as we see in the modern west, rather an objective standard of morality with the weightiness of fulfilled prophecy. It is a rejection of hedonism and materialism and calls on us to embrace family, tradition, discipline. Christ merely used Rome to spread His message. You're baptised in a tremendous tradition that has been unbroken for thousands of years, and your ancestors were also a part of it - don't break the chain now!
@Sean Michaels We certainly embrace pleasure and leisure so long as they are within the realms of the natural good, whereas sloth, gluttony and lust are disordered manifestations of man's natural desires and fundamentally lead to negative physical and spiritual consequences
What do you mean by improvement and updating? Integrating LGBTQ, BLM, WOKE AND CANCEL CULTURE ideologies into that religion? These ideologies are aimed to destroy everything thing including paganism, the traditions, the ancestral memories, the natural order. When you do that, when you castrate a whole generation of young men and women, that's when barbarians from foreign shores, will take over and bring back the natural order. Wake up, don't be naive.
Food for thought we should not feed ourselves the thoughts of uncertainty seems easier said than done maybe impossible to some who direct the perspective in a way that farther separates you from truth people want worldly things but to not be apart of the world and vice versa
@@jakebarnes3054 Sure the church would tell the truth and never lie for their own gain? just like how some saints saw god set the non-believers on fire
Christianity was by no means the religion of slaves or the poor. There are ample examples of rich and intelectual romans converting. Im not christian btw.
well christianity is just one of the many forms of judaism, therefore not European religion, so if you are a European nationalist, you can not be a follower of the king of the jews
This is exactly was happening in the US, orchestrated by special one chosen class of people
The same kind of people as in rome
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@@DivinizedOneewwww.🤮 I'm just grossed out. I'm not finishing a word at all.👀
@@quentinsummers2531 How dare you talk about the ethnicity of Paul, Peter, Luke, Mark, Matthew, Joseph, Mary, David, Moses, Jacob and Abraham. How dare you man. Just keep letting them print your money and worship one of them in your church.
Bro no, it’s Islam and Marxism, which both reject Judaism.
This video has strengthened my resolve to stoping social justice.
So you've been motivated to commit violence. Good luck lowbrow criminal.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
Bruh it's a hypothetical. Boyo even did a conversation saying it wasn't emsn to be taken seriously
r/wooosh
This video could also open your eyes to the change you have to make to adapt to the times. It's like holding back the hands of time and claiming you have stopped time.
"There's Carthaginan's talking about wakanda or something." Perfect.
Phoenicia forever!
@MK ULTRA Phonecia must be a rival to wakanda in this universe. They better up the child sacrifice if they want to take out the Black Panther.
As if they’re comparable. Carthaginians were one of the most integrated populations in Western part of the Roman Empire and North Africa had some of the wealthiest provinces. They were not some losers lacking in culture and history nor were they stagnant. They were never enslaved en mass and they were not particularly inclined to entertain fantasies of greatness. They were great.
@@AlexIncarnate911 Well put
@AlexIncarnate911 Agreed, but it's still fun to imagine Carthage battling Wakanda. Maybe that's why they lost their wars with Rome? Hannibal had just defeated the Black Panther before his military turned to face Scipio. So his military was exhausted. Damn Wakanda! Carthage could never catch a break, because of you!
G K Chesterton the English writer who was a Catholic convert and apologist (Father Brown series) used to argue that Christianity got blasted from both sides - when it was muscular and militant it got blasted for that (Crusades,colonialism etc ) and when it touted forgiveness, meekness and pacifism it got blasted for being that. They can't win!
Who is there to criticize when they are all deal?
Genghis Khan
@@Tonixxy *Dmitry Donskoy enters the chat
Yeah guy makes ridiculous claims like
"If we fed you to the lions, then why are there still many of you left?"
Bruh🤦♂️
@@Tonixxy what?
Because it's wrong. Whatever it does, it does stupidly
Rome tolerated all religious practice, the Christians wanted that to change, not to have the right of faith but the right to destroy other faiths.
All these religions with Abrahamic faiths are like this. They are actually just copies of each other. Analogues. No matter what defense these religions may try to see other believe or make a defensive stance or take that they are not the same. Trust me. The Human violations and values are still ingrained into the minds of these people.
Forgot to say. But the same fundamental thoughts are in these religions that have become brutish.
Rome would have survived had it not had widespread slavery, and therefore industrialized more (they had the steam machine figured out after all, just like the Aztecs had the wheel but didn't use it)
Bad idea on romes part
My therapist: the Nietzschean Carl Sagan doesn't exist, he can't hurt you.
The Nietzschean Carl Sagan:
I'm sharing this my guy. Beautiful
Dude, you’ve got a gift for this type of thing. I’ve listened to you off and on for a while now and I’m always amazed by how you present your thoughts. Never stop what you’re doing.
Wokeism is indeed a type of religion.
Fascinating video. I think the explosion of new ideologies is more a symptom of a crumbling empire than its cause, both now and then.
Yes, I'm moving towards this
Of course christianity wasn't the cause of the empire's fall. The eastern roman empire stayed until 1453 with orthodoxy while the heretic western catholics fell a millenium prior. Also Nietzche was a mason so this video is biased af
Actually it's more of a chicken and egg argument. These new ideologies are both a symptom and a cause of a crumbling empire.
Not Christianity… it was meant as a weapon to subvert the unstoppable Roman drive… but Romans caught on to it, pivoted to adopted it as their own weapon. Now their empire (in hiding) is 2.5BN strong… 2000 year later.
All the splinters and spin-offs of Christianity that exist today, such as J’ Witnesses, SDAs, etc… are all attempts to thin the trunk of Roman Catholicism, by drawing Catholics into smaller armies that challenge and fight Rome from every front, especially through infiltration (ie. Jesuits).
@@ganykaliya7811 they're birthrd by the collape, and accelerate the collapse
This was in my opinion the most important video you have published. We need more voices to talk about some of these truths of our world. Truth must be told no matter how hard some find to accept it. No matter how much some people hate to hear it. No matter how "extreme" some find it.
Syncrostic
This is the first time I have ever heard that from someone in the Anglo-Saxon world. Here, in the Czech Republic, this is rather common opinion as we see christianity and wokeism this way, but it is rare to hear it in English.
@@petrmaly9087 It's mainly due to deracination. It's easier to see when you have a living ethnic heritage and history. America was founded by some of the most Jewish denominations of Christianity imaginable. So we've been faggot-oped into this larp of left vs right, when in reality it's not only just different shades of this abstract liberalism, but it's ultimately about tikkun olam 1.0 vs tikkun olam 2.0.
We've lost most of our British(Brythonic, Saxon & Gaelic) folk ways and values since we've not only been separated from the isles for so long, but as I said before, the founders were puritan, so anything not Jewish(biblical) in origin is seen as satanic racial idolatry.
When you're still in touch with your land, history, culture, spirits, and even Gods to an extent via the "saints", it's very easy to notice the parallels, because you recognize the ultimately foreign outside origin of it(christianity/wokeism).
@@petrmaly9087 He’s Irish 😂
@@Name-ib7wu Ireland was under strong influence of the Anglo-Saxon culture for many centuries, part of the UK for a long time, the northern region is still part of the UK to this day. And the cultural references he makes are US-centric.
saw the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games
Wokeism 1.0 (Christianity) was botched and ridiculed by wokeism 2.0
You’re an oxymoron. There’s nothing woke about Christianity
they were making fun of dionysus and paganism, it had nothing to do with the last supper. the fact that you thought it was about the last supper means youre incapable of identifying the very themes recycled to create christianity..
the fact you believe them at their word is hilarious 😂
@GermanoCelticAmerican
Actually the first woke shift came with the worship of Zeus who was a pedo that kidnapped little boys.
@@siecheilah did they tell you this in their secret rich person meeting they invite your peasant ass to?
The first converts to Christianity were women and slaves. That should tell you everything about what kind of creatures it was meant for.
Fear not, romanphile! I heard men can become pregnant now thanks to modern technology! You can know make your polygamous gau Roman utopia with only men and no beasts that are women or slaves.
@@CzarLazar1389castrate yourself for yeshua Ben panthera as you will be his bride in heaven
You’re incorrect. First converts of Christianity involved people from all strata. There were tax collectors, Roman centurions, women, fishermen, doctors, aristocrats, bureaucrats, slaves, priests…. All groups of people. You’re fooled and given false information here. The fall of Rome happened because of its infestation with sins, injustices and sodomy. Christianity grew when Romans were already falling apart.
Massive cope 😂 Christ is King, St. Boniface pray for us 🌲🪓
@@HMFOG boniface had no head
This was a very thought provoking perspective! Thank you.
the cycles of history, explained in such a fashion that my entire world view is questioned. do not stop this gentleman, the dissent is utterly needed , now more than ever
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
All them angry jesusers tells me this struck a very important parallel into the forefront of the conversation
We are angry because this is a misrepresentation of what Christianity is. What we actually believe
this is a real educated response. ruclips.net/video/It2juWi9qfU/видео.html
@@isaacloegering7388Are you joking right?
This is great man. Have had similar thoughts myself over the years so really appreciate this video
This video is probably done in jest, though Edward Gibbon might have agreed with it.
The problem is that Rome did not fall as we were taught in school. The western Empire crumbled, but the East lived on for 1000 more years and it was the East where Christianity was strongest.
Charlemagne United much of the old Western Empire under Christianity and if the Byzantine elite had allowed him to marry Byzantine Irene, the Empire would have been reunited.
And then there is the argument that Moscow is the third Rome since so much of Christian literature and culture was moved there from Constantinople to Moscow in anticipation of a Muslim conquest.
As long as an ethos promoted the family as the cornerstone of society, there will be stability and growth. This woke ideology is anti family at its core.
Woke ideology is actually pro family, your definition of woke is wrong.
You simply call anything you hate, woke.
Which it has nothing to do with
Correct. It’s the anti natalism of Rome and the woke of today that Christianity stands against. Go forth and multiply. You don’t hear that much anymore.
The Eastern Empire limped and lingered on for 1000 more years, torn apart by constant civil war, religious infighting, palace intrigue, and constant Turkish and Arab raids.
Hardly an example of Christianity strengthening the state.
@@jackhallander6706 they lasted while the West fell. Despite constant threats from the outside, they endured.
You don't limp along for 1,000 years. They also managed to convert the Rus and the Slavs.
Rome did fall. Rome was the people of Rome. Anybody not of roman blood is a poser wearing the name and tradition as a larp to get notoriety and a sense of authority. It's like immigrants coming to the US or England and claiming that name. They aren't. Never will be.
Wow, that was ominous! Your Roman narrative truly foreshadows the current issues we face today. Thank you for this thought-provoking video.
You have a poor understanding of history
Too bad his narrative is wrong. The „middle class roman“ he described didn’t exist at all. Dude is just projecting current issues onto history with no regard for actual historical facts. Absolute joke
Does Jesus, a Roman's George Floyd?
OOO that could be accurate 😂
"he was nailed on the cross and he was screaming for 8:30 minutes straight"
(BLM = black fist , Christianity = cross)
probably he was
yes
damn right he is
One of the best videos I've seen in years.
A lot of great discussion in these comments.
I am an ethnic Greek so I was raised an Orthodox Christian, later becoming lukewarm in my teenage years. But in early adulthood I came back to the faith with zeal.... until recently. Through research and much thinking, the religion is starting to look like an anti-life, anti-European death cult. Let me explain:
In Orthodoxy (The supposedly traditional and "based" version of Christianity according to many online) the greatest gift one can get in this life is a holy death, the thing one is supposed to look forward and yearn for is death, remaining a virgin IS BETTER than having children, one is supposed to abstain from sex for at least half of the year when married (with clerics often urging traditional and pious couples to stop having sex altogether so they can live "Like brother and sister"). Even the aesthetic of Orthodoxy is based around skulls, dead bodies and somber themes.
The more I think about it, Christianity (Orthodoxy especially) just seems like a death cult.
Not to mention the cuckold morality of "Turn the other cheek, love your enemies and submit to your masters" and the supposed "Chosen" status and racial supremacy of the Jewish people spoke about through scripture in contrast with the racial egalitarianism pushed on the gentiles in the same book.
I really want to learn more about neo-paganism. Being Greek, my ancestors have a strong mythos but I don't really know where to begin...
Oh, Orthodoxy is 'LE BASED' according to 15 year old Americans on TikTok? What part of Orthodoxy tells you to honor nature and heritage?
Idk about orthodoxy but in Catholicism sex is 100% celebrated so long as it's chaste, that's to say within marriage, open to life, etc. Celibacy is also celebrated if you're called to it. If you're called to marriage and for some reason choose to be celibate- that's not good.
Regarding turn the other cheek- this seems like cuck/weakling mentality ONLY IF youre thinking about the material world and material conflict. Christianity is the only religion really that emphasises that the war, the real war behind all of reality, is a spiritual war. In this conflict human beings are not so much the actors but the territory that the war is fought over. Winning a human soul over is an ultimate victory- while killing a human is a tragedy, as any destruction of God's creation is a win for Satan- violence then can only ever be a solution in rare circumstances where it's the lesser of two evils and there's no other solution (e.g. the whole of Christendom is threatened by invasion). This is why non violence and grace, for the ultimate sake of converting your attacker is actually an extremely violent move, except it's targeted at the real enemy, the evil forces within your attacker. If you strike back, you're playing into the enemy's hands
Απλά δες τι είχαν να πουν οι τρεις ιεράρχες για τους Έλληνες.
>the group with the highest european birth rates is a death cult
keep lying through your teeth bro
@@EspressoMonkey16 Exactly brother, Catholicism is the truth.
"Cool it with the antisemitic remarks"
if there is a religion/movement a Judean is pushing into your civilisation it is for no good.
until people realize that all these sources of moral degeneration have the same authors and sources nothing will really change.
Who wrote the bible? A group of rabbis.
Who wrote the communist manefesto? A child to a long linage of rabbis..
Who were the bolsheviks again?
They like it cool. Apparently they've had an aversion to heat for the last 80 years. Something to do with imaginary ovens or something. Idk. \_😐_/
Whoa, the emoji dude on my last comment had his arm cut off. 😮
I think this speaks to the cyclical nature of Empires. No empire can last forever. You've seen the meme... 'Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.'
It's an interpretation on Nietzche's concept of slave morality
wait... this is a year old... how did I miss this?? This is beautifully written....
The slave seeks equality. The master pursues excellence.
Excellence = Sainthood
Yes and now you will be the sl@ve
wow, nice and truth,. says so much
@theoddone887 you think you are a master but your people will be slaves soon, your people came from the caves as n3anderthals, and you only took over because your father s@tan gave you the power. But judgment is coming
The master likes to smell his own farts.
Newsflash Xanthus … you’re just a wage slave like the rest of us and you’ll never really be a “master”. Aesop was the slave and was always smarter anyway.
This was so good! I had a philosophy teacher who used to fully put himself into both sides of a thought experiment. You could never tell his real stance on anything. And it was amazing because you could fully immerse yourself and see through the eyes of the “other “. It’s incredible way to learn and understand. Well done, sir.
The Final Pagan Generation: Rome's Unexpected Path to Christianity - Edward J. Watts
Really interesting
To me, Rome died with Caesar who was betrayed and cowardly murdered by a mob, Pompei death was also an absolute tragedy.
Idk why you think it died with Caesar when Augustus who upheld his legacy.
@@RedStar441 It was never meant to be an Empire, Caesar didn't want an Empire if im not mistaken
Caesar shouldn't have been so entitled as to think others should hold unwaivering loyalty.
What about the guy that made Rome into marble?
As someone who studied history, your narrative is interesting, predominantly factual and very real for the day.
People should take the religious connotations out of the early christian forced conversion of the late Roman Empire. It was entirely political in nature and brought an internal division to that society (just like the present day U.S.) that condemned and punished anyone that didn’t agree with it or wanted to hang on to the old values. It was embraced by the urban and political elites, in which riots would occur in the cities in which statues that represented the old gods and values were torn down and temples were pillaged without any consequence. Sound familiar?
This woke/christian movement that inflicted the late Roman Empire was not the only reason for its collapse. That being said, it was a huge contributor. Not because of its teachings, BECAUSE OF THE INTOLERANCE to others who disagreed. Just like today’s woke movement, it caused a division in that society that allowed it to rot from within, before it collapsed to external forces.
Ou do realise he admitted this was made up and for someone who studies history you'd know it was actually the Romans who were woke not the Christians
@@ghengiskhan9308 The semites and the rest of the slaves first promoted wokeness and then Christianity after the moral had been broken down. Same as today.
Man. I've had this feeling most of my life. I've never heard anyone talk about it. Great video.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
ancestral memory
The feeling that Christianity was Romes some religion? Christianity made Rome stronger. It purified them insofar as they allowed it.
@Lotterywinnerify ridiculous. Rome was strong without Christianity just as Greece was
@Joe14Biden88 And Christianity didn't and built the greatest civilization the world has known.
After reading Nietzsche and thinking profoundly about his texts, this is the only conclusion one can get.
A false and stupid conclusion
@@ostae your own opinion. Nothing more.
@@deuteroniusz9222 This is not my opinion but the Truth. But you are free to believe the writings in a man who ended up as he lived, miserably.
@@ostae any truth that requires you to be brainwashed as a child is no truth.
No better than the woke commies indoctrinating our kids in the current year.
Nietzche was a free mason. Straight up biased.
Thanks. I’ve been saying this for a long time. Glad you made it into a video, and with stellar execution.
The more I learn the more the title rings true
Then learn some more!
@@mikealvord55 everything I see in modern Churches is bug man platitudes for obese tv watchers. Where’s the knights of Templar?
We're not going back to Christianity. Women have more freedoms and rights and were not meant to stay in the house.
Read
Ceasar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill.
The Histories by Tacitus.
Agricola and Germania by Tacitus
The Secret History by Procopius.
The Story of the Goths by Henry Bradley.
The Getica by Jordanes
The History of the Anglo-Saxons v1-3 by Sharon Turner
The Saxon Savior by G. Ronald Murphy, S.J.
Ireland's Immortals by Mark Williams
A Classical Trivium Education - Books on Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric
- Which is rooted in ancient Pagan Greece.
- Replaced in 1918 with "Taditional" education.
More modern books for you to read:
The Positive Philosophy by Auguste Compte
Age of Reason by Thomas Paine
The Founding Myth by Andrew L. Seidel
@@mikealvord55 Do you see the difference between us?
I think this is conflating two things: the decadent stage of empire, where the heartland becomes ruled by the slaves, and Christianity. If Christianity were causal here you would not see the rise of many western Christian empires after the fall of Rome.
Christianity contains wokeness/weakness within it, but it also contains strength. It is a full picture of the world. Societies are stronger when they care for the weak ---- this may be hard to see given our current cartoonish manifestations of wokeness, but it's true.
My man, all those empires you speak of barely practiced. The more Christian an empire was the more cucked and weak it got.
@@Tonixxy the Frankish empire was pretty Christian.
@@Tonixxy Yet, the Christian West conquered the entire world.
@Regionaltyrann there is no such thing as ‘Christian law’ it changes in every historic context. It is not the same as Islam. It was definitely christian influenced though. (Less rights for female inheritance under the franks than under Germanic groups). Sure the succession laws were Germanic, but there is no such thing as a universal christian succession law. Regardless. The Frankish empire was definitely more Christian than the 3rd century Roman Empire. So the argument more cucked=more Christian makes no sense.
@@Tonixxy the Spanish empire barely practiced Christianity???? ????? The Russian empire barely practiced Christianity🤣🤣🤣🤣 these are among the most zealous empires of any religion ever.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
02:07 *🔍 Nietzsche argued that Christianity was the "woke movement" of the Roman Empire, challenging conventional views.*
05:44 *🏛️ Rome's demographic changes led to social and religious tensions, with immigrants and slaves bringing new beliefs and customs.*
08:35 *🛡️ Christianity was seen as a threat by traditional Romans due to its appeal to the disenfranchised and its undermining of Roman virtues.*
11:20 *💭 Christianity was perceived as a tool for the disempowered to seek vengeance against the Roman elite.*
16:26 *🚺 Upper-class Roman women were attracted to Christianity due to its perceived emotional appeal and rejection of Roman masculinity.*
18:02 *⚔️ Christianity's gradual infiltration of Roman institutions eventually led to the suppression of traditional Roman beliefs.*
20:07 *🏛️ The Christian revolution in Rome resulted in the destruction of Roman culture and the onset of a dark age.*
22:36 *📜 Rome's collapse revealed the true consequences of the Christian revolution, leading to a profound loss of civilization.*
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"Christianity is the grandfather of bolshevism/communism" and essentially all liberal thought. Best said by Oswald Spangler. It most definitely is when you look at the economy between the Old and New testaments and actions they took against Gentile Nations
Old testament is Jewish.
Yep, 100%. Literally it dissolved all the Europeans people identities/cultures and globalized them under one religion and made all their ancestral religions illegal as worship of false idols. Proto cultural Marxism
The whole concept of Christian Gnosticism is that there is a break between the Old Testament and the New.
Are you on drugs? Marx famously called religion “the opium of the masses”, communism was strongly anti theism, Mao and Stalin and every great communist leader was athiest.
@@Stevewilldoit96because it would compete with their ideology, are you playing dumb or unironically this stupid?
A real return to tradition would embrace the folklore of our ancestors and reject Semitic monotheism.
What if I told you we ancestors didn’t worship the pantheon as Gods but venerated them as great ancestors? What if I also told you that our ancestors did worship an single all encompassing God?
Read the Oera Linda Book.
@@rhett3185 The Oera Linda is a proven fabrication.
Tha Christian virus has always been a chameleon, contorting itself to find a way to the seats of power
An unfortunate theme across most religions. If you can't beat someone physically, beat them ideologically. Both are wills to power in different venues. Only a holy man could have higher status than a king.
or religion is just natural to human beings and secularism (currently causing a complete collapse) isn’t
Yet all the nations today aren’t ruled by christians LOL
@@d1ssolv3r no just abrahmic religion
I don t agree with the so called conqueror/roman virtues but you made a very good point.The argument against the heroic virtues is not about moral superiority, is about cunning and stealth vengeance in form of moral superiority.
Infinite conquest of others is not sustainable. But continual conquest of the inner self and controlling its animal impulses is a lot more viable.
@@mirceazaharia2094 If the wolves threaten your home, you do not let them get stronger and kill your sheep unmolested. What you do is you grab your spear, you grab your brothers, and you go and kill the wolves that threaten your community. After all, is that not what one is meant to do? To protect themselves from the darkness? This is not another biblical quote; this is simple notions of strength and defiance against the untame who exploit the vulnerable innocent and wish to infest your home.
"No more brothers wars", yeah... f*ck that, just destroy your european neighbor and get into endless selfdestructive war profited by "foreign" bankers, that's the way!
Infinite conquest of others is sustainable.
Sir I love what you are teaching here.
I just subscribed to your channel this morning and Im taking notes for inspiration.
Keep doing what you're doing.
You've enlightenment me greatly.
Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈
If so, then we are in for a dark period
Kali Yuga.
Yep
Atone for your ancestors' sins of colonizing the Muslims (never mind how Islam spread by sword across North Africa, Anatolia, and the Levant). It's only right the most common Brussels newborn's name is Mohamed.
@@matusmotlo3854 so back to 1400
Muh dark ages
Christianity was indeed Rome's woke movement. I watched your interview with Adam Green, it was great! wish you'd go on there again. Love your videos dude.
Adam Green who runs away as soon when you ask him whether Jews consider Jesus Messiah? That Adam Green? The subversive cryptoJew who admitted he cares more about dismantling Christianity than Zionism Adam Green? The same one that ignored centuries of Christian persecution of Jews? Who codify them in the Bible as cursed and of Satan?
I think you should reevaluate what people you're following, because they do not have your best interests in my mind.
Stop being lazy and stop being taken advantage of by people who thrive on your ignorance.
Uberboyo said himself in a interview with church of eternal logos this video wasent made to be taken seriously and was more a collection of thoughts that he had about a roman at that time period.
But no it was not romes woke movement it was actually the Romans who were woke if you know your history.
@@ghengiskhan9308You are the one that doesn't know history here
@@user98344what are you blaming me for ghe creator fo the video said it was made up
@@ghengiskhan9308 His character is, but the information on his video isn't, he has cited his sources in his comment.
Your video are top tier. You’re an absolutely captivating story teller.
This is incredibly well made
Allegory is a bit on the nose, but very much in the spirit of Animal Farm. Delivery is excellent though, thank you!
Found you through Varg Vikernes ❤
Love seeing other who hold my own ideas making entire videos about them
Finally someone else saying this. I’ve felt this for ages
Seconded
Well roman paganism was just paganism. The western part of the empire was always paganism and heresy with catholicism. No wonder orthodoxy stayed longer.
The recent book "The Final Pagan Generation" goes also into this (although it doesn't directly name wokeism by its name, but it also shows how the Christians nagged their way to power).
Also reminder that we don't have to believe in our Old Gods -- we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves. If it's important at all, I am sure eventually future generations will also genuinely start to believe facets of it. You can easily reason that a certain god is just a metaphysical aspect of nature, vs. all these being united in a single god.
"we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves"
Pagan gods turned into anime girls and used to monetize the sexual repression of lonely men?
_Big Tiddy Zeus_
Asatru folk assembly
Quite impossible. Infact that is, a very christian thing to say. The ‘pagan’ culture was a product of their divinity and it will never fit into a christian worldview. As someone who has already noted, the best it can be are marvel/dc movies. Totally divorced from its divinity, the ‘culture’ is made into a caricature. Philosopher Ram Swarup noted that any such ‘culture’ present in Abrahamism today are remnants of the ‘culture’ they so brutally destroyed.
I was actually thinking about something like this earlier today. Even as a practicing Orthodox Christian, I wonder, is a Middle Eastern desert religion really the best thing for the European soul?
Maybe I should hit up my ancestor's old home boy, Zamolxis. I'm sure he hasn't gotten any prayers or votive offerings in a good long time.
I still greatly respect Jesus, though.
@@MK_ULTRA420 FUCK NO. I'm thinking we need to hijack the anime style (at least its style from the 80's) and make our own cartoons, with European and American cultural values (not the woke ones), instead of being force fed Japanese values.
Anime really feels alien and weird to me nowadays, ever since I realized that it is, after all, a foreign export. I find most of it unwatchable, because of its different cultural values, and excessive sexuality.
Very few of them are still watchable to me, the older ones more specifically, and very few modern ones, like Saihate no Paladin.
There's definitely something to be said about the two movements having a large dedicated female following, and being fueled by resentment.
It's almost as if civilizations would stop falling apart if men stopped treating women like shit.
Great video, thanks
You nailed it. I've been thinking the same increasingly in the last couple of years. But you put it together so eloquently. Well done Stef!
*Woke 1* - Christianity (Rome, turn the other cheek)
*Woke 2* - Communism (Europe, give up wealth)
*Woke 3* - Wokism (West, give up descendants)
… and our children will inherit the world!
You forgot the part where Christian Europe dominated the world during 500 years of colonialism. Yeah that was so woke.
@@scientificreactions7938 Is it the Tongs or the Hand that’s faulty of playing with fire? Creating a fake religion to make your competitors idle in the art of money making, it means you have monopoly over finances and can easily mobilize them to carry your water.
Is it really Bush and America that ventured into Middle East? Is it really Ukrainians that want the war? Im sure you can think of other situations. Is it UA that really getting the billions of $?
Proxy armies continue to this day… BLM, Anti Fa, “European” Celebrities, “European” Porn idols, DEI Committees in every Corporation, etc. Who destroyed the world? Why, the unchained loose morals of the West of course!
When you want no recourse for dirty work, you use gloves… conditioned to be your tools and take the blame, for little money up front.
@@scientificreactions7938 It absolutely was woke, the entire justification was to "civilise the savages" (help the weak) and convert them to Christianity
@@scientificreactions7938 And what did they do? Oh they tried to teach the apes how to read the Bible. Those very same apes who today run rampant in our society.
@@scientificreactions7938Christian in name. People ruling didn't give 2 fucks now or then
Also slaves were not spreading Christianity as whole households took the religion of the master in the Roman empire. Slaves were not free to travel between towns or walk the streets, saying things, spreading ideas, that could reflect badly on their masters. The slave idea is based on modern individualist thinking where each member of the household had his own religion and views if he wanted.
I've heard the same in a few other cultures too, like Viking age norse
actually there were a number of scandals where Christians were "converting" the children of pagan households without the consent of the parents
This is extraordinary and unique insight. Super interesting! Love the original thinking. It’s been years since I’ve come across something cutting edge and thought piercing
This video is incredibly powerful and the message contained takes bravery to consider. I for one have never heard Christianity compared to wokeism in quite this way, and to hear the historical dates and figures made it that much more real.
I often use a similar argument when stating all art is inherently degenerate. People turn to art as far back as we forget the outrage attached. Most renaissance art was scandalous. Most roman statues were met with protests and even riots at such public degeneracy. But because we forget or don't look up to see the reaction it had to it's contemporary people most folks don't realise that the statue of David is literally the Pisschrist of it's era.
Christianity in itself is an extremely subversive ideology, after all their origin is Judaism - hence Judeo-Christianity. The conservatism came later as a result of Christianity's alliance with the feudal nobility that ruled Europe, which was extremely based and still Pagan at heart. But if you look closely, conservatism was always just a facade, after all liberalism did grow out of the Christian ideology - all early liberals being devout Christians. You can even make the leap and say that Christianity reverted to it's original form and became the Wokeism of present day.
@@bashkillszombies It absolutely is not, what possible evidence do you have for this?
You're just moving the goal posts to make it seem like EVERYTHING is just relative and on a spectrum. Michelangelo's David it is not comparable to the modern city council controlled public spending on a specifically politically correct art piece just to virtue signal.
@@kksch2176 I have the feeling that, while as you say conservatism might of been a façade for Christianity during the period of 500-1400AD you could say it was to gain and convert the Germanic areas, which is when Christendom really rocketed in power and started it's crusades and kingly "Jerusalem" esq rule over Europe. But I feel as though for Europe itself Christianity is just a facade too, it's never followed the letter of the bible, and when it has those people have often been banished or persecuted, Christianity has just been like a spiritual elitism that has claimed credit for everything good and pious that Europe has done.
The spell seems to be breaking though, however maybe not in a good way, Christianity is coming to it's natural conclusion has Nietzsche described. .
'Stunning and brave'
It really isn't.
Phenomenal video Stef! You have some of the best content out there pal. Especially your Nietzschean playlist 😎
Hes killing it 🔥
What did Nietzsche say about Islam?
@@afşînmalatîturkî Islam is where his narrative breaks down, because the idea that Islam brought weakness is completely implausible, considering that Islam conquered one of the largest empires ever starting from a bunch of desert nomads in about 200 years.
@@jotteredits But it can't go on like this. Every conquering empire, movement, religion or ideology is desperate to maintain at least one enemy, and find more areas to conquer. Eventually, it turns its aggression inwards on itself and self-destructs. The capacity for aggression is vital and must be used wisely. Letting it run unchecked results in suic-ide.
Islam will reform into something more viable for its current age. It will have to, in order to survive. Its outward aggression is not going to be tolerated much longer.
That username 💀
What if the agricultural revolution was the first woke movement?
I’ve heard that nomads had to be tough, wise and self reliant.
I would recommend the book The Final Pagan Generation by Edward J. Watts. I'm halfway through it and there is quite a bit of similarity between these old times and the modern world.
Human nature doesn't change.
Thanks for putting this out there. The comparison to the current conquest of “wokeism” is apt.
Lots of strawmen and false comparisons between wokeism and Christianity, also reminder that pagans murdered babies and had very limited sexual ethics.
No. Satan was bound from deceiving the nations, and the gospel spread. Now, the devil is loosed again for a little season to deceive the nations.
What I'm gathering is that the modern day Roman Empire isn't the United States, it's the entire Western World: North America being the newer dominant Western half (aka the Latin portion) and Europe being the older Eastern half (aka the Greek portion). Just like with Rome, the Western portion (America, Canada and you can even include the entire Anglosphere in this) is almost certainly going to implode before the Eastern portion (Western Europe) does. So if you live in Europe, enjoy the fireworks over here. You're up next.
It's an awful analogy tbh, at least for anyone older than 15
@@volusian95 lemme guess your Christian?
Spread the Truth brother!
wow. Ur rly bringing Historicism to a new level
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That’s what I have been saying for years. Socialism is a branch of Christianity, just a slight shift in perspective of where God is.
Interesting speculation, but a key point here is that Christianity from a very early stage had doctrine pretty well defined, reinforced constantly by traditions which its practitioners zealously guarded.
The woke movement reinvents itself every two years, even its own adherents can’t keep up at times.
This is just false, Christianity reinvented itself constantly, that's why it has infinite variants.
@@matriaxpunk Not infinite, but only because you're overestimating Christianity.
This is not really true. During the first two centuries of Christianity there absolutely was no consistent doctrine. It would have seemed far more like your second point, constantly reinventing itself and very hard to keep up with. The early movement is marked by constant debate and infighting over theology.
@@MK_ULTRA420 you get my point
The Cathars couldn't keep up, that's for sure
Man, thought provking aside, you make that coat look iconic.
The woke religion will leave the path way open for the up and coming Islamic Britain
Man, excellent video. I'm Greek. Can you imagine how it is to figure out that ALL your history is distorted and built on lies? They've even changed the Greek words that are full of wisdom to fit the narrative... I often bring up this comparison woke/Christian myself we live in very fragile times. All was organised and directed, it was a power grab from within. Exactly like our times.
it’s sad how Christianity took over Greece when it was literally the the birthplace where high philosophy, science, and spirituality of the west was born. Early Greek philosophers like Celsius saw Christianity for what it was but in the end they failed 😢
@@tsurugi5 it's ok, it used to piss me off until I realised that everything goes in circles... It's the natural flow of things.... We still have our "out of the system" philosophy schools in Athens... Of course it has nothing to do with how philosophy is taught in Universities in Greece or outside of Greece... We keep it burning...
Just amazing work, can actually feel the revivalism we need come through in this work.
ROMA AETERNA!!! 😤
Man, I'd love to see you have a chat with Jordan about this idea
I'd love to as well! Doubt he'd be interested, this is quite a brutal take
@@uberboyo Brutal, but unfocussed, wandering and blind. Nice speaking skills though.
@@uberboyo he would agree with you, so not very brutal
I was saying this since 2017, Christianity was the wokeness of the ancient world.
Nietzsche said this in 1800s. Cringe then and cringe now.
Frankish and Russian empire were not woke
@@bobjoneswof *Jew-worshippers hate him. Deprogram slave morality with this one simple trick!*
@@bobjoneswof You do realise he was a free mason? He was biased from the start lmao.
@@alechboy3578 Nietzsche was a freemason? I've read a bunch of his works and I didn't get that impression, is there anything to suggest this?
This might be too based for some of your viewers lol. It’s all true though. They just can’t open their eyes.
@huwhitedeath2651Or an ideology based on superstitions.
For people who understand the scriptures which would exclude you
and the clown who made the video we know it's not even remotely true...
When dealing with stupid people i'e you deception is a breeze!
This video is far from based but I am sure you are gonna learn this someday
@@alechboy3578 do you have proof, or do you just enjoy empty threats and lofty moral superiority? Maybe more people would listen if you argued from facts instead of "you're gonna burn in Dante's Inferno because I don't like your opinion!"
Trust me, I want to believe in a higher purpose of this existence, but how am I to pick the thousands of angry teachings, all saying theirs is the right one with no proof?
I feel sorry for the cattle.
Great insight into the "resets". Thanks.
This rural roman pagan really lived for hundreds of years
Bro lived from like 200bc to 400ad
@@jotteredits More like 30CE-580CE
In the form of local superstition.
Roman empire: I'm just the best, half of the world is mine, how powerful I am!
Poor fishermans club: **destroys it without any force or muscle power, but with pure Love and compassion, willingly dying on crosses**
Roman empire: REEEEE, that's against the rules!
Christianity arose in the same way wokeism did by the elites switching their allegiance overnight and becoming crypto-Christians and then slowly normalizing it and cancelling everyone that spoke out against it until it became the state religion. You think all those persecution stories are actually real?
Same could be said about the Communists destroying Christianity in Russia. Hence why now they have Stalin and Lenin as idols
Pure love and compassion? You mean when they murdered and tortured the greek and roman pagans who went to their temples and who still worshipped their gods? When they destroyed their temples and turned them into brothels and stables?
@@luzebel6882 But where did you read about that event of torture and murder?
@@luzebel6882 The Christians endured 300 years of persucution and oppression.... they Defeated Rome without swords
I hope you make more videos exploring this.
One of the more radical realizations, or epiphany's if you prefer, you'll have as you seriously consider religion, or the 'woke' march through the institutions is how uncannily similar it is to the rise of Christianity, when the penny finally drops as to the true nature of the cult of Christ you will understand how alien it is to Europe.
Lose weight?
Indeed
Ah yes, not a balancing mechanism that made Europe even greater than Rome ever was - - but "an alien" to Europe. The European masculinity tempered with the flames of the Christian femininity is what created Europe that was able to rule the World.
If christianity caused the end of the roman empire why did the eastern part survive a thousend years?
if the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire then how come every country which based its laws and governments on the Roman Empire and Republic like France, America, Britain, copied the system of pagan Rome, mostly admiring Caesar and Augustus, and not the Byzantine system? This also includes medieval Christian kings who idolised Caesar
@@zekun4741 Justinian was Roman
@@dealvarado4783 So what? Justianian and Theodora still remain one of the best roman king-queen duo that existed in history and Eastern Roman Empire(Byzantine) >>>>>Western Roman Empire.
@@zekun4741 Because they didn't.
@@zekun4741 because Eastern Rome had like 1000 years more of completely separate development of legal system lol.
During the collapse of western part their legal systems had only minor differences. Its not a valid argument you made their.
Beautiful presentation, Uber!
as a pagan Hindu I feel u bro
You lost to Muslims in spite of remaining pagan🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 700 years of Muslim domination. Maybe if you had converted it might have done you some good in stopping them.
hindus are not pagan, chaddi thinks european pagans are partb of akhand lund
What are your beliefs?
@@raw_dah I am a Hindu( i.e practicing hinduism
Islam is the worst if Abrahamic religions. Good luck
That Ben Shapiro impression 5:05 Lmaooo
That was hilarious
Watching your videos from Serbia. Greetings to all ya nice people out there....
'It's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion-a “religion of men”-and hygienic too.
I love your channel!!
Your voice and narration is so unique.
As a believer in Jesus, I appreciate your mind and the perspective it brings forth.
Thank you, I appreciate you - godbless!
I really enjoy your rhetorical style.
Dude this is really fucking good jesus man well done making this, I love it
Lovely video! I knew I had to subscribe when I found myself clenching my teeth in fury and doing pushing ups halfway through lol
A brilliant storyteller .... keep up the good work!
This was a pleasure to watch
Pretty fun thought experiment.
Beautiful video. Thanks for that.
Underrated channel
And they choose to have a jewish messiah. Isn't it interesting? Christianity appeared after the romans destroyed the second jewish temple in 70 ad. And the jewish messaiah had its revenge. :D
Thank you for this take - I would pay good money for a whole series on similar themes - especially your thoughts on Jungian thought applied for Eastern ideas especially of the Vedic nature being an affectionato of the latter. Would love to support your efforts on a Patreon or equivalent. Much pleasure enjoying your video essay.
I was raised Roman Catholic and I've been questioning religion over the past years. This made me realize things more and surely religion itself needs a lot of improvements and updates. This is one of the reasons I'm beginning to turn to others like Neopaganism. This is quite a food for thought.
Don't apostasise, my friend. Christianity was nothing like the woke movements of today - it is not an inversion of morality as we see in the modern west, rather an objective standard of morality with the weightiness of fulfilled prophecy. It is a rejection of hedonism and materialism and calls on us to embrace family, tradition, discipline. Christ merely used Rome to spread His message. You're baptised in a tremendous tradition that has been unbroken for thousands of years, and your ancestors were also a part of it - don't break the chain now!
@Sean Michaels We certainly embrace pleasure and leisure so long as they are within the realms of the natural good, whereas sloth, gluttony and lust are disordered manifestations of man's natural desires and fundamentally lead to negative physical and spiritual consequences
What do you mean by improvement and updating? Integrating LGBTQ, BLM, WOKE AND CANCEL CULTURE ideologies into that religion? These ideologies are aimed to destroy everything thing including paganism, the traditions, the ancestral memories, the natural order. When you do that, when you castrate a whole generation of young men and women, that's when barbarians from foreign shores, will take over and bring back the natural order. Wake up, don't be naive.
Food for thought we should not feed ourselves the thoughts of uncertainty seems easier said than done maybe impossible to some who direct the perspective in a way that farther separates you from truth people want worldly things but to not be apart of the world and vice versa
Catholics are already pagans
What do you mean what if? it was
@@jakebarnes3054 if my child had a genetic mutation or was disabled from birth I am sorry dog it ain't personal but the wolves can raise you
@@jakebarnes3054 Sure the church would tell the truth and never lie for their own gain? just like how some saints saw god set the non-believers on fire
@@jakebarnes3054 also religion of the meek, lepers (the underclass) ready to rebel against the noble class
@@cecilrhodes1057 The church are full of people people can be flawed and fall short of virtue in the church just like anywhere else
@@isaiahd5396 The point is that it was an ideology bent on making us slaves through ideology one that we thankfully resisted
Christianity was by no means the religion of slaves or the poor. There are ample examples of rich and intelectual romans converting. Im not christian btw.
He covers that also, but it started off amongst the poor and slaves
You said what I have been thinking, and done so eloquently. Bravo. The Golden one sent me.
well christianity is just one of the many forms of judaism, therefore not European religion, so if you are a European nationalist, you can not be a follower of the king of the jews