The price of these units is really great value for money. Just a few short years ago Boeing CDUs were advertised for nearly $3K, so this $130 price is a real breakthrough.
Perfect! This is one of the most irritating parts of MSFS 20/24. That you can’t undock the MCDU and program it on screen like you could in earlier versions of MS and in P3D. Together with the WW FCU/EFIS combo, this will make the simulator a lot more realistic.
I can't wait! Is it plug and play for PMDG??? Or do you have to program it??? Also, does it work with the other Boeing products or do you need to get one of each for the three Boeings(737/747/777)??? Thanks for the video!
Just awesome, a big thanks to you for sharing and to WinWing to build theses quality products. After FCU, joystick... we approach to get a full cockpit sim at home :D
Great review Doc! So good to see affordable sim widgets like this coming out now. The main thing stopping me from building a rig in the past was the extremely high costs of gadgets like this!
Crazy how affordable flights sims are today. I remember like 15 years ago you'd need to spend at least 100k. Nowadays you can build the same thing for 10k.
I see you went from triple monitors to a curved 49” and lastly to a flat OLED. Can you tell me why you settled on the OLED? Which do you feel gave you the best immersion? Thank you, and Beautiful setup btw!
question. if we got just the Boeing one. would it work somewhat with the airbus planes? or does it not work at all when you criss cross them? if you could try it out and let us know that would be amazing! thanks
If I buy a a-320 one and then want to do a flight in the PMDG 737 does the screen still show what’s being displayed in the 737 (aside from the buttons being mismatched)
@@TheFlightDocpls test it. As much as Id like to have it for 3 different aircrafts (a320, b777f & b737) I can’t afford it. Still need to get rudders, efis and throttle 😅 my god, that sounds expensive 😂
This is arguably more exciting than the efis/fcu combo. I'm sooooo excited to get this and an airbus radio panel. THEN, I have to do it all over again with the boeing set :D (winwing has direct access to my wallet at this point lol)
5:50 that answers your question from earlier on how it doesn't use an HDMI. It's getting the text info from the aircraft (m)cdu, and doing it's own rendering on device instead of just an hdmi output.
The buttons of the 777 MCDU are different enough to make this kind of irritating - Boeing smoking their socks or something. The physical layout is the same, but their are different buttons, and some of the same buttons, but in different places. I'm not sure if WW could include replacement labels/buttons, but the only thing that would need to change are the button labels. Specifically, we'd need FMC COMM, VNAV, NAV RAD, and ALTN buttons, and the ability to move some of the current ones around. If this is possible then this would also be 1:1 for the 777, but as it stands, it's different enough to be irritating, but not to stop it being used, I guess.
Is the display just a copy of the in-game display as if it was a popped out window? I was curious if Winwing were going to make their own version somehow, or if it is indeed the same display being shown. The fact it doesn't need some funky HDMI and pop out display setup is excellent.
Are the buttons rubber or a plastic feel? I think the ones they showed at expo were a rubber button. I’d prefer them to be plastic or at least a very hard rubber.
Exciting ... great video (smashing the 'like' button) but could do with a few more details like measurements and confirmation as to whether a single unit can access either side (Capt/FO) and also if it is possible to use two units to access both sides independently at the same time?
The measurements are 28.5mm thick, and essentially 1:1 for the real MCDU or CDU (measurements I wasn't sent, but readily online available) - you can change the side which the unit accesses (L, R, C in most cases) and you can indeed use two units to access each side INDEPENDANTLY (which is bloody awesome!)
@@TheFlightDoc Thanks buddy, very helpful ... can't wait to pre-order these bad boys ... currently using two wifi tablets which generally work well but sometimes disconnect and/or suffer from a bit of latency ...
Im so confused. This isn’t replicating the texture from the game, so it must be kept in sync via software on the device or on the PC. I can foresee this getting out of sync if Winwing doesnt support this device in the long term or there are sudden changes in planes.
Guys im really stuck on which I should get between the boeing or airbus mcdu eventually I will buy both but for now I can only pick one, any help on helping me choose?
Is the Boeing 737 version also compatible with the 777, or are there differences? If, then, I'd like to get the Airbus and kne of the Boeing versions first.
The buttons of the 777 MCDU are different enough to make this kind of irritating - Boeing smoking their socks or something. The physical layout is the same, but their are different buttons, and some of the same buttons, but in different places. I'm not sure if WW could include replacement labels/buttons, but the only thing that would need to change are the button labels. Specifically, we'd need FMC COMM, VNAV, NAV RAD, and ALTN buttons, and the ability to move some of the current ones around.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who thought that straight away. Also don’t forget the Chinook flight computer, or the Herc that’s still in development. IF these are also compatible with them, I’m purchasing at once. Or at least once they are back in stock, let’s be honest given winwings supply issues with new releases, we ain’t getting these for 6 months or so, unless we get lucky with the pre order. Pretty sure I’m getting at least 1 of these for MSFS anyway, and at such a great price it is even practical to get one for each type of aircraft and just swap them about. Winwing has scored yet another home run, these guys are magnificent, I thought their F18 stuff was stunning but the new civilian equipment. Wow.
@cowboy10uk totally agree. I fly various modules and would rather have something with lots of options. I only occasionally fly msfs these days as I can't get descent vr performance, but these winwing product do look excellent.
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mikdu is crazy
Ugh 😮💨
Not half as crazy as panel flight of plan
Fr🤦🏻♂️
I’m dead at this😭😭
LOOL, I saw real pylotes calling it a mikdu online, now I feel like an idiot 🤣
The price of these units is really great value for money. Just a few short years ago Boeing CDUs were advertised for nearly $3K, so this $130 price is a real breakthrough.
100%, it's a great time to be a flight simmer!
For this price is like insta buy. Finally we got some companies that are not greedy
Amazing!!! Can’t wait for these. Well done winwing. Please get those magenta colours into the display for constraints!
coming soon!!
Perfect! This is one of the most irritating parts of MSFS 20/24. That you can’t undock the MCDU and program it on screen like you could in earlier versions of MS and in P3D. Together with the WW FCU/EFIS combo, this will make the simulator a lot more realistic.
I can't wait! Is it plug and play for PMDG??? Or do you have to program it??? Also, does it work with the other Boeing products or do you need to get one of each for the three Boeings(737/747/777)??? Thanks for the video!
Just awesome, a big thanks to you for sharing and to WinWing to build theses quality products. After FCU, joystick... we approach to get a full cockpit sim at home :D
Great review Doc! So good to see affordable sim widgets like this coming out now. The main thing stopping me from building a rig in the past was the extremely high costs of gadgets like this!
I know, right? I'm glad these are becoming more accessible! 😁
Great review! Awesome to see these out in the wild - really looking forward to using these in the sim 👍
Can't wait to get mine hands on both. Cool vid like always.
Crazy how affordable flights sims are today. I remember like 15 years ago you'd need to spend at least 100k. Nowadays you can build the same thing for 10k.
Release date: January 17, 10:00 AM (UTC). Next week!!!
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@@Landis_Gaming Western China
Im 100% in for the Boeing. EXCELLENT value
$130 is pretty damn good, can't wait to see what they pop up for on second hand markets.
What's the second hand market and where does one access it from
Excellent review. Will wait to see what the first batch of buyers say and how long it takes to deliver their orders.
awesome video FD, excited to get these into the setup
you're gonne love it!
I’d honestly buy it just for decoration
Awesome bit of kit. Kudos to winwing that is a fantastic price too. Will definitely be adding one
They both look great. I'm going grab one of each when they come out.
They look great, thanks for the video 👋🏾
Hope they make some GA stuff. Not big into the airliners but, the price of these might make me reconsider. Would love to see a GTN-750.
The type face Airbus designed and uses is B612 and it’s free (licensed as SIL Open Font License), so why they didn’t use it is beyond me.
0:40 Can’t wait to get these. I want it for my Apache and Kiowa in DCS 😅
Lovely video mate!! Just got mine too :)
Thanks mate, I'm interested to see what you think !!!
Interesting to hear it works with Fenix. I thought Fenix doesn’t support external hardware due to license issues or something like that
Looking forward to the full Aurbus setup, this is exactly the route I am going, but from zero to hero.
28.5mm thick, all other dimensions are OEM (I wasnt provided with specifics, but there are lots of mcdu dimensions online which will be identical)
I see you went from triple monitors to a curved 49” and lastly to a flat OLED. Can you tell me why you settled on the OLED? Which do you feel gave you the best immersion? Thank you, and Beautiful setup btw!
question. if we got just the Boeing one. would it work somewhat with the airbus planes? or does it not work at all when you criss cross them? if you could try it out and let us know that would be amazing! thanks
If I buy a a-320 one and then want to do a flight in the PMDG 737 does the screen still show what’s being displayed in the 737 (aside from the buttons being mismatched)
no, I don't think it'll work, but i'll try it out!
@@TheFlightDocpls test it. As much as Id like to have it for 3 different aircrafts (a320, b777f & b737) I can’t afford it. Still need to get rudders, efis and throttle 😅 my god, that sounds expensive 😂
@@TheFlightDocI'm also interested to know if this would work
This is arguably more exciting than the efis/fcu combo. I'm sooooo excited to get this and an airbus radio panel. THEN, I have to do it all over again with the boeing set :D (winwing has direct access to my wallet at this point lol)
hahaha, it's amazing right!?
5:50 that answers your question from earlier on how it doesn't use an HDMI. It's getting the text info from the aircraft (m)cdu, and doing it's own rendering on device instead of just an hdmi output.
Amazing. Now just add an affordable overhead panel and then its perfect!
The buttons of the 777 MCDU are different enough to make this kind of irritating - Boeing smoking their socks or something. The physical layout is the same, but their are different buttons, and some of the same buttons, but in different places. I'm not sure if WW could include replacement labels/buttons, but the only thing that would need to change are the button labels.
Specifically, we'd need FMC COMM, VNAV, NAV RAD, and ALTN buttons, and the ability to move some of the current ones around. If this is possible then this would also be 1:1 for the 777, but as it stands, it's different enough to be irritating, but not to stop it being used, I guess.
is the one for the 737 for NG or for the MAX? is it true that the one for the 777 will also work for the MAX?
The one for the 737 works for every 737!
@teunvanechtelt8942 are you sure?
@teunvanechtelt8942 or information different from yours
Is the display just a copy of the in-game display as if it was a popped out window? I was curious if Winwing were going to make their own version somehow, or if it is indeed the same display being shown. The fact it doesn't need some funky HDMI and pop out display setup is excellent.
Would you know what version they are pre-releasing first?. Hopefully both would be great.. thanks for a great video..
they're releasing all of them, MCDU, 737,747,777 at the same time
Great video, thank you. Which USB hub do you recommend for running all of these off?
Can’t wait to get one, I’m currently waiting on my EFIS from winwing it’s taking a while to come though!!
Same, no change since I paid late December 🤔
@@GeorgeLumkin I ordered the fcu and it came within two days no sign of the efis though
I am also waiting on the full fcu and dual efis still, ordered them 27th December
@@ollierichards1 I ordered mine on the 26th December
@@ollierichards1 and didn’t it even say “in stock” for the combo around that time?
From what I understand you can use either one for almost any plane. So you don’t need both if you mainly fly one.
yes this is important to me. Like, I want it to work on the A330, etc
Which one is better if I fly mainly bizjets?
Would the airbus mcdu work with boeing
@@Xonarous from what I heard yes but idk for certain.
@@Xonarous I suppose it would, but due to difference in button functions at least the labels might not match 100% and some functions might be missing.
Definitely a must have for me, going to crack the piggy bank open!
It's totally totally worth it, and such an immersion booster! Great to see a comment from you guys!
can you use it on other planes or just for the 737 cause it isn't worth it if its for one plane only
what powered usb bank do you have ?
Will the A320 work with the Headwind and ini A330 ? and will the 737 work with 777 and 747?
I'll be testing those out this weekend :D
was just looking this for my cockpit and my options were 600 dollars or diy 200 this is perfect timing
Why won’t some manufacturers make cdu and mcp for the 777?
They are planning it in the future
winwing are releasing the CDU for the 777 January 17th!
I am going to buy the bus version to complement my FCU unit1…well done winwings
It's bloody brilliant!
What about the iFly 737 MAX? Also working with it?
Are the buttons rubber or a plastic feel? I think the ones they showed at expo were a rubber button. I’d prefer them to be plastic or at least a very hard rubber.
Hey Doc when I get my chair with a seatbelt we should fly together. Like your videos and setup. 👏👍🏼
Can you use both for any type of aircraft? Does it matter if I get the MCDU or the FMC or is it just a style thing?
I believe *at the moment* they only work with their respective aircraft, but will be mobiflight compatible!
is it possible to use two MCDUs for fenix A320?
Do you know if we buy 2 devices for Airbus, can we set one of them as Primary MCDU and the other one for the Secondary (Co-pilot MCDU) ?
You can indeed :)
WinWing take my money! We see us on 17/01/25 :D
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My skalarki i paid 900$ and need a specific app to make a run .
Does it fit with the standare WinWing table bracket?
Will these be compatible with xplane 12 too?
Next up: Winwing released their overhead panels for A320 and B737
@@maxhem3668 heres hoping 🤣
Can you use two? One on the right and one on the left? Like in a real Airbus?
Exciting ... great video (smashing the 'like' button) but could do with a few more details like measurements and confirmation as to whether a single unit can access either side (Capt/FO) and also if it is possible to use two units to access both sides independently at the same time?
The measurements are 28.5mm thick, and essentially 1:1 for the real MCDU or CDU (measurements I wasn't sent, but readily online available) - you can change the side which the unit accesses (L, R, C in most cases) and you can indeed use two units to access each side INDEPENDANTLY (which is bloody awesome!)
@@TheFlightDoc Thanks buddy, very helpful ... can't wait to pre-order these bad boys ... currently using two wifi tablets which generally work well but sometimes disconnect and/or suffer from a bit of latency ...
Are you aware of their stock levels? I’m just quite worried that they will sell out to quick and I won’t be able to pre order
Im so confused. This isn’t replicating the texture from the game, so it must be kept in sync via software on the device or on the PC. I can foresee this getting out of sync if Winwing doesnt support this device in the long term or there are sudden changes in planes.
If i get the airbus mcdu. You recon it would also work with boeing?
U dont look bias to airbus at all 😂😂😂 But good video... I should build a 737 setup sometimes
LOL - I'm going to build a boeing setup soon!
Can't wait to get the PFP
Looks great, wonder if the final product will come with an anti reflective screen, or you could cut one down to size
How do you talk to atc😊
nice video... is there any config to do or plug&play right away?
Guys im really stuck on which I should get between the boeing or airbus mcdu eventually I will buy both but for now I can only pick one, any help on helping me choose?
It really comes down to your preferred aircraft, either way you cant go wrong!
Which airplane do you use the most?
Airbus or Boeing?
Can you buy just the 737 FMC and use that one for the 747 and 777?
this i'm not so sure of, I'll try it out shortly, and ask them if it doesnt work!
wait will both of them come out the same time?
@@visethleng5542 yes!
Is it possible to use two mcdus in one flight
Awesome!
wonder which planes are compatible and if is also working in xplane 12
I believe they're compatible with toliss at the very least + a few others, although I'm not quite xplane savvy haha
Great for the DCS A10!
TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im starting to run out of usb ports in my pc. which usb hub with flight simming in mind would someone recommend?
Is the Boeing 737 version also compatible with the 777, or are there differences? If, then, I'd like to get the Airbus and kne of the Boeing versions first.
The buttons of the 777 MCDU are different enough to make this kind of irritating - Boeing smoking their socks or something. The physical layout is the same, but their are different buttons, and some of the same buttons, but in different places. I'm not sure if WW could include replacement labels/buttons, but the only thing that would need to change are the button labels.
Specifically, we'd need FMC COMM, VNAV, NAV RAD, and ALTN buttons, and the ability to move some of the current ones around.
When on Xbox usable?
Howd you get them early?
Winwing managed to get bro an unreleased product but my order has been stuck on ‘packing’ for 3 weeks
Sorry to hear that bro, have you contacted them?
Hi there, great video but your audio has pops and crackles all over it - unless it's just me. Cheers
Can you try the Mcdu with a Boeing, and the 737 pfd with another Boeing like the 747 😊
it's on my todo list today, will update with a stickied comment!
Fantastic, but will it be compatible with MSFS24 and Fenix? Thanks.
Yep, I can confirm it already works with msfs24 and Fenix
wait wait wait... unrelated, but im only just realizing ur the same guy as the car doc, just watched ur review on the gt86 lol i wanna get one
hahaha wow, welcome!!
Would it work with airbus a380?
Does it work with the inibuilds default planes?
yes
@ definitely? Because I don’t know where to get a clear answer
I will check and let you know!
@ thanks mate 😊
First, I want winwing to deliver my fcu finally...... 3 weeks in "packaging"... even the postcard of my buddy from china arrived quicker
props to Winwing
agreed!!
Will it function as a button box in DCS ? Could be useful as a ku for the apache or kiowa. Or as a UFC.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who thought that straight away. Also don’t forget the Chinook flight computer, or the Herc that’s still in development.
IF these are also compatible with them, I’m purchasing at once. Or at least once they are back in stock, let’s be honest given winwings supply issues with new releases, we ain’t getting these for 6 months or so, unless we get lucky with the pre order.
Pretty sure I’m getting at least 1 of these for MSFS anyway, and at such a great price it is even practical to get one for each type of aircraft and just swap them about.
Winwing has scored yet another home run, these guys are magnificent, I thought their F18 stuff was stunning but the new civilian equipment. Wow.
@cowboy10uk totally agree. I fly various modules and would rather have something with lots of options. I only occasionally fly msfs these days as I can't get descent vr performance, but these winwing product do look excellent.
Sick! Do you need to download a software for it to work?
Simapp pro, from the winwing site. Needed for all there displays and equipment to sync the lighting
@@cowboy10uk If I don't mind the lighting, I don't need the app?
I run the same thing on my ipad with simbox
Can this be used for Xbox or is PC only?
The products go there quickly, it takes ages to get to Europe
Hopefully it comes quickly this time...I've got this before release for content :)
Fantastic 👊🙏🏻👍❤️✈️👨✈️
thank you!
Like your Videos. Cam you tell me the mesuremts of the MCDU?
When is the official release date and will it be compatible with Xbox
17/1 preorder and not compatible with xbox
@ ok thanks so much
@@TheFlightDoc also are there any Mcdu’s that are compatible with Xbox
does it work on the flybywire a320 , headwind
330 and lvfr a340?
i write the same thing for winwing and thy said ,,sure,it will,,
@@almoskosik7660 thank you :)
it should do, I will test it over the weekend!
When will they hit the website? I want them both!!!
I could tell you but you might beat me in the queue 😂 17th January pre orders go live on their site mate 👍🏻
yep, 17th January !!
Does the 737 one work with the ifly 737 max 8?
it hasnt worked for me yet!
Huh its inst out yet?
These products are not available on the website you provided with the link.
Pre-order opens 17th January