Electricity Meter Tampering On The Rise: Have You Seen This?
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- ‘Don’t mess with your meter’ - that’s the trade’s message to homeowners this week as they resort to desperate - and deadly - measures to save money…
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Fair priced electricity would not need by-passing. We are being robbed
No you’re robbing the energy companies. Wholesale rates are five times what you actually pay because of Ofgem energy caps
People being forced to choose between heating and food, whilst energy companies boast record profits. Can you spot the problem here ?
Meter tampering was minimal when the Meterman came round twice a year!
That... is a really good point.
Mine comes around every quarter, the water meter reader monthly. That the one meter is pouring out water from a crack is just ignored by them.
Or the 50p meters 😂
My ex used to bypass the meter, years ago ..We were given free electric then..Which should be free to everyone..TESLA gave to to us!
Great for savings when you were skint @@SECRETORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR
While working people are struggling to pay for their basics and energy companies executives and shareholders are bathing in champagne, this will be inevitable.
This is what happens when people are given no other choice, it’s literally survival for some at this stage and will only get worse for as long as energy keeps rising and remains unaffordable.
And yet energy companies are reporting record bumper profits this year. It's obscene.
It's not good is it?
Completely agree.
Absolutely, yet energy and oil companies are making record profits. Any gains in GDP are being hoovered up by the one percent whilst the rest of us pay.
@@planespeaking "Any gains in GDP are being hoovered up by the one percent whilst the rest of us pay"
Funny how that works, eh?
I’ll be honest, I’d just say I haven’t seen anything. Why should companies profits increase sevenfold at the expense of peoples lives.
I remember, back in the 1970s, one of my relatives had a close shave when he "tampered" with an electricity meter. Although it was inside his property, it could still be read from outside via a key-access door. Unfortunately, users of this meter soon discovered that by removing two securing wing-nuts, and dropping it forward - it stopped working! Everything was going like a dream, until he came back from the shops one day and found this message on a card slipped under his door: "Meter man called but your meter was out. It had better be in tomorrow!".
_""Meter man called but your meter was out. It had better be in tomorrow!"."_
Nice one by him.
On the old meters, people used to slacken the case screws just enough not to break the seal wire and slide some photo film through the gap to touch the wheel and slow or stop it. in a dark cupboard it was hard to see
Not good is it?
3 phase meters the common thing was to loosen the one wire link, so only 2 phases had a current flow in them, and thus it would under read consumption. Of course in older houses with overhead feeds the old favourite was to take a wood screw, and screw it through the live incoming DCC cable, in the roof, before the meter, and use that screw, along with a wire wrapped around it, to power the water heater and the stove circuit. Neutral left in the original position, so when it came time for the plumber to replace the water heater, and he turned off the power, in the days before there was a mandated disconnect right by the water heater tank, there would be a little bit of fun as either the live arced over to the water pipes, blowing the pole fuse, or the entire house floated up to mains voltage.
Just had a meter replaced in the block, and the new prepayment meter now has it's own GPRS unit in it, which has a small antenna to provide a link to the metro, giving a power status message and also live power use, and they also have bypass detection in the meter itself.
Back in the 80s in my flat,if you unhooked the meter (old black wheel type) and had it bent over at about a 60degree angle,it’s goes round very slowly,just had to remember to hook it over the top screw meter reading time.
@@efixx Why are most of your comments 'not good, is it?'?Do you want to hear it's bad that desperate people fight back? You realize it's deliberate government policy, with hardly any support by civilians, that caused all this misery and probably way worse in the near future? More people die by poverty now than electrocution/fires.
@@bruiladebeen5671 Since when have citizens not wanted to pay less for things? Just because the people want electricity to be cheaper than the market price, that is not possible and results in less supply and even higher prices. If you want cheap electricity then providing electricity needs to be profitable enough for people to want to get into that business, so supply increases. Profits those companies made are not even only for the UK, they are for many countries.
I'm was as honest and hardworking as they came - yet seeing what the UK govt is doing to its own people, I can't criticise anyone. It's a 2nd world drug and gang ridden tip, and worsening fast, but worse is the corruption, bias and ineptitude of the courts and police... and worst of all the (provable) corruption in Parliament/by MPs. So pleased to have left the place and just sorry for anyone still stuck there: Keep your moralising for when our pensioners, most of whom fought for us, live in reasonable comfort and security and can enjoy their last years.
this sounds like the TV detector vans from the 70's , scare mongering from someone being paid to scare monger.
Thanks for the advice. Rather than shock myself I employed the talents of a well known retired electrician from the pub to do it for me as he knew what he was doing for £50, a cup of tea and half a packet of Jammy Dodgers.. Phew, that was a close one...
awful news about the young man who suffered a serious head injury . My thoughts and best wishes to him . I hope he can have the best care and support he needs.
I know it's just tragic isn't it? A couple seconds either way and he'd probably be OK. 😔 Underscores again how dangerous construction sites are. 😔
I was born and lived in Russia, meter tampering is extremely common in some regions. It ranges between bridges on the meter cables to gaining remote access to the meter over it's 860MHz wireless protocol or hacking the meter via the infrared interface.
It should be free., Telsa gave it to humanity as a gift NOT to be monopolised by EXTREMEMLY GREEDY TROUGH SHUFFLERS
@@wecandothiswarriors facts mate
The French government kept price rises down to 4% until this February for private users.on the downside commercial users saw no protection and this is causing smaller businesses to close bakers being the worst off.
I remember doing this 40 years ago. 2 chunky leads and a box with concrete in it. I think it use to turn the dials backwards. I can understand people resorting to this especially if they are desperate. And if you have a prepayment meter and can't afford to heat the house what are you going to do?
Get a better paid job...
It's the price , it has doubled and tripled in some cases , with older style houses it doesn't help as they were built for coal , what are people to do if they find it a struggle ? , Even people that work or are ok financially are tightening up , cutting back on heat and food , I wonder if this has anything to do with heat pumps they want people to get which are expensive , most want to pay their bills but the prices are ridiculous , I know pensioners who have to put fleece jackets and scarves on , yet Scotland had to dump millions worth of electricity last year as it was not connected to the grid in England , so they lost millions , is this them getting it back by upping the price to the people ? , It's a total con , who's paying for the hotels full of migrants ? I will be stopping my energy and doing without , if everyone did this the companies would have no income unfortunately parts of UK are cold and now they are stopping wood stoves it does seem they are up to something , Scotland can have enough electricity at 3.5p but it's taken to England and sold back at a dearer price , so yes it is a con and affecting sick and elderly the most , ah well that's the great British for you I guess ,
Switch off as many electrics as poss ,
I remember my dad using that device. He called it the flower pot
Why concrete in it? How do you mean?
Energy Suppliers should be shameful when they declare their profits in billions and Government should hold them responsible for all the incidents occur due to heavy bills. Now this man is making that kid look bad who was charged of his own mother's death. disguising.
Meter tampering has always gone on in some form or another, but it will surely be on the increase now as the likes of BP and Shell continue to rake in bumper profits at the UK public’s expense.
We now know why DNO/DSO want smart metered fitted everywhere. It's not for our benefit but it helps them stop meter tampering.
That's probably part of it to be fair. 🤔
That's a bit of a red herring. True, that's one reason, but the more over encompassing reason is smart meters offer more control by DNOs over the electrical system. For the right reasons, like meter tampering, but also for the wrong reasons, like giving an earful to electricians when they have no choice but to pull the main fuse and the meter yells to the DNOs, or the recent story bout British Gas. After the investigation of British Gas breaking into ppls homes to fit smart and prepaid meters, and for those who already have smart meters, have the meter switch modes remotely, even after the practice was discontinued, I suspect more ppl will take a stand on not having a smart meter in place, and stick with the old style meters for as long as they can.
It doesn’t stop it at all. I know people who have had their smart meters jumped for years. It’s very hard to reinforce
Smart meter doesn't stop anybody stealing electricity
If anything i think smart meters are more of a reason for tampering because people are really REALLY distrusting of always online meters constantly communicating their consumption and people are seriously afraid that these are gonna be used to limit their carbon footprint at some point later down the line, so i actually think it's an INCENTIVE to tampering, not a deterrent, i don't actually understand what was wrong with the old system, it worked fine, just as well as this.
is it just so the DNO can save a couple quid on sending over meter men every once in a while? Or is something more nefarious at play? I also don't really like this idea that they can monitor my consumption and just switch off my electricity if they wish remotely if i go over some arbitrary limit they've set for the month, just don't get why they need such power
Do you have to be a qualified electrician to bypass the meter or can the homeowner do this work themselves
Neither, its like saying a theft can break into someone's house, anyone can do it, you don't have to be a qualified theft. However regardless if you were or not you shouldn't break into someone's house. same applies to bypassing the meter.
@@midlandemergency whoooosh
@@audigex what
@@midlandemergency That was the sound of the joke flying over your head
@@audigex what bit is meant to be the joke? Someone ask a question so I answered it.
The cost of electricity is high because of government mandated green energy requirements. If we had nuclear power all around the world electricity would be too cheap to meter.
They’d still rob us
Constructive dismissal is when you have no choice but to leave an employment. The Employer can effectively be held responsible for causing a person to leave.
By the same mechanisms: is the son responsible for his mothers death, or did he feel - as a result of government policy and profiteering energy companies - he had no choice but to take action so his mother didn't freeze to death?
The son is likely to be the one in court over this, but responsibility for this tragic event also lays with many others who will likely never face repercussions.
It's very hard to prove in court though, which is the point of doing it: It lets employers get rid of someone without needing to deal with formal processes or severance pay. Just have to make them miserable enough to quit. Or fabricate a reason - perhaps dump all of the most time-consuming tickets on them so that they cannot possibly achieve mandatory performance targets.
Hi vis label not needed for old colours ! Progress ?
Making wiring looms up offsite , how are they going to guarantee it isn`t damage by the minimum wage potheads they`re going to have ragging it in for a fixed price?
Electricity should be cheap and available abundantly that would stop people stealing it. Again, only a certain class is able to be off grid.
Yes but who is going to pay for it.
@@JimWhitaker Someone else presumably
It could be with enough up-front investment, but what company or government wants to sink money into something that won't provide returns for ten years?
@@JimWhitaker Well...for a start the government can remove the sanctions against Russian energy...that 'shot in the foot ' only benefits the oligarchs, then they can sanction the power companies to return their profit margins to something more suitable and thirdly end the simulated energy market scam and return the entire energy production infrastructure to something resembling public ownership. The energy supply is a public necessity not a private enterprise to maximise profit.
The stupidity of people.
My ex housing association, Place for People (Mansfield, Nottinghamshire) certainly used to bypass the meter when working on vacant properties.
Bypassing meter is impossible in Federal Republic of Germany or Kingdom of Thailand. First country use box around with savety screws (can open but no close without seeing it) and second country nail the meter outside on the wood. Too much rain for doing it.
In Germany: Open the grid-side connection box, attach wires to busbar directly. There you go, meter bypass.
Yes, it should be sealed. The seal is missing more often than not, and no one really cares if it is unless you're stealing.
Good luck to them, i hope they get away with it. Greedy utilities companies making billions.
Mr Tickle and Hullabaloo are my gues of the words for this week.
Good guesses Sergio. 👍
I would never grass someone up if I came across a meter that had been tampered with. These people are usually the poorest in society and are desperate. Why get them in to trouble and add even more misery upon their already miserable lives?
I would simply fix it for them, and warn them not to do it again.
Thanks for commenting. 😳
But if they don't have the money to keep the power on they'd probably just rig it again.
But I agree, I would never report someone for doing things born of such a desperate situation.
What about squatters and the weed farm
@@rodgerq Yeah, it's a tricky situation. It's terrible that people have been forced to resort to these measures? But I don't think it's as common as is being made out? I work for a housing association whose stock is mainly social housing, and I've carried out 10 EICR's a week for the last 4 years, and I've never once come across a tampered meter? And believe me, I've seen people and families who are living in abject poverty. What this government is doing to them is horrific.
Sorry to hear about the young man i hope he will be able to recover fully mr tickle ,Hullabaloo, is the word 👍👍
Great new weekly as always Joe Frank god for hard hats there cheap made of plastic by by Chiat they save lives, hopefully that young apprentice won’t lot his accident put him of continuing with his career. And he had the sense to wear his hard hat. There’s a new nursing home going up in my area I noticed on Friday when I was walking past a good few of the workers weren’t wearing hard hats. They’ll be sorry one day .
It really underscores how dangerous construction sites are doesn't it? 😔
They are only sorry if they survive though.
I don't need to bypass their meter because I have some candles that can do the job, and when it gets really cold I light them with a flame of fire, oh and I am very clumsy! I just hope I don't fall asleep while huddled up trying to keep warm and accidently burn to death, which in fact would be a godsend to me as I'd be put out of my poor misery. And Lest we forget... "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.... I will be judged too!!! Be Careful my fellow neighbours, you know, love love love one another!!!
Thank you sir, great content, sparky in Belfast.
That panasonic screwdriver looks handy. What about lazy screws?
I saw a thumbnail on a video just like the thumbnail on this video ...but it was titled 'free electric' ...I was going to comment 'free porridge + accommodation' :p
You should take a look at the LTT Screwdriver, a screwdriver designed for DIY and computer technicians. That Panasonic screwdriver looks interesting - I'll have to take a closer look! Thanks for the great content.
This news normal loud sound on my Samsung Galaxy Tab - big difference to last news. Thank you! But I am sure the Shure can give out the signal louder without problems too. 🙄
Really strange, used the exact same rig with the exact same settings both times. 🤷
@@efixx Yeah - you say it - here it is same. 😅🙋♂️ Thanks for answer.
Instead of head hunting these people for just trying to stay warm . Energy companies should be slashing profits and helping them . Oh but that's right can't have the wealthy drop there standard of living
Or even reduce there energy consumption target the poor so the wealthy can heat and eat .
I accidentally broke the glass my old disc meter, the seals are still in place but the disc is exposed, am I likely to be charged for meter tampering? This is why I am reluctant to report it
I used to tamper the electric meter 30 years ago when I was just a teenager and a couple of times it went
💥BOOM💥 I'm 51 now and thinking back at it I'm wondering why I'm still alive..Lols
I don't know why I still play as won 3 times since it started but never received anything. Name previously was Orzo Orzo.
We've chased up the backstage team Oriel, our apologies, we shall withhold biscuit privileges till further notice! 😃
@@efixx no need to resort to such harsh measures, probably just a word of caution to them should be enough ;)
@@efixx still will always love this channel and has made me a better electrician which is the best gift yet 😊😊
May i share this on my facebook page Joe.....no gain to me but to promote awareness on dangers of meter tampering
Yeah, volley the link on there by all means. It might be released on Facebook itself actually if that's easier to share. 🤔
"it had fallen several stories from a forklift truck" - um, how on earth was a forklift truck several stories above him? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever
Probably at AT tele-handaler lifting brick or tile pallets up to roof height
Hi efixx are you at Alexandra Palace next month?
Mr Tickle and Hullabaloo
(Still waiting on my last win and yes, I did use the link in the show notes!)
Good guesses and sorry for the delay, I've chased up the relevant minion! Biscuit privileges withheld till further notice. 😃
That Panasonic screwdriver looks just like the toy karaoke microphone 🎤 I had as a six year old
What was your tune of choice David? 😃
@@efixx no idea!
Would love a video about fitting that Shelly 3EM you have on the bench there!
It’s coming soon - useful piece of kit
@@efixx I love shelly too. Especially their lightbulbs (that you just screw in) and their low-voltage things (RGBW2, Shelly1, I4DC) which can also be run on 12v DC. The good with 12v things is that there is a exception in our law that says low voltage installations (SELV) may be done without being a authorized electrician. So just put a plug-in transformer in nearest socket, a barrel jack in a SELV junction box, and then you can do big lighting installations, without any authorization.
Hi from the land of SCAME (I live nearby, and a friend of mine work here)!
The government help just to put money into the energy company's pockets. Think about it
I wouldn't ever tamper with my meter (Not only because it's dangerous and wrong, but I get nervous enough just working with 3,5v Li-Ion batteries!) so as a vulnerable person my options have boiled down to cutting my energy consumption down to the lowest I can get away with. In short (Ooops! ⚡🙃) this means I'm now living on about 550wh/day. The standing charge, incidentally, is so high on my tariff (Because I can't have a „smart“ meter) that I'm being billed £2,85 in standing charges for every £1,- of electricity I consume... ⚡🇬🇧🤔
Now take into account that I live in an 80s vintage all-electric flat that receives no direct sunlight and gets abnormally cold in the winter, and I think it becomes quite apparent just what sort of appliances I'm having to avoid using just to keep my head above water... 💸⚠😣
*Edit:* Also, just noticed the thumbnail image for this video might give a bit too much detail given it's visible to those outside the trade like myself as well. Might want to drop the screws and come up with something a little less revealing, IMO. 😇
Mr Tickle & Hullabaloo Spaghetti LOL but keep up good videos
Thank you very much, make sure you're listening next week to see if you're right! 😃
Shell has made an all time high profit this year 😒😒🥴
Scammy.
That can't be a real company.
I was thinking same thing scame 😂😂
Is it dangerous to do that
Very.
Going back to the 80s, i remember some very dodgy boxes that were sold which connected up to the electricity meter caused it to spin backwards! many a fire was started by this dangerous arrangement!
Great video.
Thanks James! 😃
Cool nice one good to know this , very sad tooo
Spaghetti and hullabaloo??
Interesting video
Like the idea of pre-wired looms. New? No. Hartleys did this in the Octopus Works in the Monkmoor area of Shrewsbury in the 1960s. Maybe not quite the same, but there's nothing new under the sun.....
Mammoth and Hullabaloo, I reckon are this weeks.
Regarding the energy companies and profits; I think (hope) they may be trying to build up the coffers to upgrade the infrastructure to enable all this EV nonsense to happen without the lights going out for the poorest while the richest go swanning around in their EVs. That is assuming the EV rollout -fantasy- continues.
One of the major problems is that so many things rely upon electricity and far too many things need batteries. So the LEDs in LED lighting use less energy. So what? When there are now far more lights than there used to be and of much higher power which is particularly the case with outdoor lighting and completely negates and energy saving and now we have an even larger problem with light pollution and sky glow than we ever had before.
With all the advances in technology and its efficiency it would be logical to assume less energy is being consumed, yet in reality much more energy is consumed. The proliferation of 'small' energy consuming devices is ridiculous! One particular offender is the power outlet with the built-in USB charging sockets. There is usually no information as to the power consumption or efficiency. The worst aspect is that this functionality cannot be switched off. Also, what happens when they invariably fail? It's part of the socket so it can't be simply unplugged and sent to electronics recycling, so it just gets ignored and forgotten about and left to consume more energy. Such faceplates should, at the very least, have a middle switch that switches off the mains supply to the charging circuitry and an internal means of isolation. I appreciate that it's a small amount of power, but when multiplied by the numbers of these sockets installed it becomes a significantly larger amount of waste energy. It would also be useful to be able to isolate/disable the USB side if, for example, the socket is install in a public building and it becomes desirable that 'unauthorised' people start plugging things in.
Here's a thought What about faceplates with 'fish key'/security switches? Slot(s) in the faceplate that override external switches to easily disable a socket from casual use or electricity theft?
As an example of 'hidden' energy waste, take cordless power tools. The charger takes energy to run itself before it even starts to charge a battery, and if left powered like so many convenience devices takes energy all the time. The charger is not 100% efficient when charging the battery, so that's more wasted energy. The battery loses energy all the time whether it is used or not. The tool itself isn't 100% efficient either so that's yet more wasted energy, and that's just one device. How about an ultra-efficient mains electric drill? That would actually use less energy for doing the same or more work.
But what about where there's no mains power available? An inverter power bank would solve that issue. Yes, I know it is back to a battery. The difference is that this would be ONE battery that could run ANY of the power tools. One battery to maintain instead of dozens that are of different types. But we're back mains voltages...it's an isolated supply and could easily have sensitive electronic safety and management electronics making it far safer in use and in storage than current solutions.
Just a few thoughts I've had...
Now there’s a surprise
Quite.
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conductive
Copper is my favourite conductive. 🤔 Wait, are they guesses? 😂 Make sure you're listening next week to see if you're right. 😃
BUILDERS DONT LIKE IT WHEN CATS SHIT IN THE SAND THEY ARE USING CATS ALSO DONT LIKE IT WHEN BUILDERS USE UP ALL THE SAND THEY WERE SHITTING IN
Cat shit adds great strength to concrete !!!
I'm not too sure of the choice of thumbnail... it's an instruction to the foolish. Oh, and it's a non-compliant insulation colour too! ;)
Yur, I believe the team in post debated it back and forth.
This is only going to increase sadly with ofgems decision to halt warrant enforcement work. These are going to go unnoticed until something happens to the victims.
One of the major reasons for someone to bypass a meter is because they’re on pre-payment and can’t afford to top up so are cut off!
Less pre payment meters being fitted may well mean less tampering.
Certainly more pre-payment meters won’t equal less!!!
unscrupulous
unquestionably
Again a guess or a statement about my character? 😂
Well I’m sure many fires 🔥 are happening because off the costs
Mr tickle and hullabaloo are my guesses this week .
I just read Mr. Tickle to my daughter last night.
This weeks hidden words could be ... Spaghetti - Hullabaloo?
They could indeed... make sure you listen in next week to see if you got it! 😊
The hidden words are hullabaloo and Lewis capaldie
Tickle and Hullabaloo
Good guesses Stephen, tune in next week to see if you got it right! 😃
I’ve been asked more times in the last few months how to bypass a meter than in the last ten years! People are getting desperate. Energy prices are only going to rise with the amount of money that needs to be spent on our aging networks.
by far the majority of the cost is fuel at the moment, I can't see renewals work being a big deal - and there's quite a bit of investment going into that anyway as sources of generation change.
Pro is one of the words instead of probe
Brill vid think the missing words were Unscrupulous and mammoth
word challenge :-
hullabaloo
calibrated
Good guesses Mike, make sure you're listening next week to see if you got it! 👍
I thought they were spaghetti and hullabaloo
Deffo Mr Tickle and Hullabaloo
You encourage people to shop in their fellow citizens, informants destroy people lives. These people doing this are desperate, how about helping them instead of criminalising them. If you are an electrician and come across a poor family that bypassed the meter, instead of phoning the number, fix the problem and maybe have a heart and put £100 on the meter for them.
It's not about shopping people it's about making sure people don't cause problems that lead to deaths as happened to the lady in the news story. I'll bet the poor lad who was responsible for his mother's death wishes he'd never done it or it had been fixed before she died. Of course people are desperate but stealing and causing unsafe situations is not the answer.
Are you paid well ?
Depends on the month to be fair.
My guesses for the two words are: Mr tickle and hullabaloo
Desperate householders
My guess are Spaghetti and hullabaloo
Spaghetti and mr. Tickle
So charging extremely expensive KW/h prices (may be the most expensive in the world) is legal but by passing that is illegal. One should always look objectively. If you find your citizens trying by pass meters may be you should look at the mirror as government and energy supliers WHY THIS IS HAPPENING? Ofcourse energy companies should make profits but in what volume? in UK since pandemic, oil, gas, and electric suppliers become the top profiting companies. Deadly measures ? People aint as stupid as you think they are, they will pay for electricians to do that kind of work. As well as i love some of your content, i absulutle hate you push Smart Meters and this kind of things like in this video, i bet electric companies paying you good money for these contents.
They are wef shills (this channel). What can you do about it???
Mr Tickle and Lewis Capaldi
802.15.4 protocol
Spaghetti and hullabaloo?
Mr Tickle and Spaghetti
Good guesses Bill, see if you got it next week. 😃
Hullabaloo, Mr tickle
Brilliant eFixx for showing this - Massive issue just now for sure!!
mammoth and tickle
Mammoth and spaghetti
Mr Tickle and Hullabaloo
Hullabaloo and Spaghetti !
Good guesses Tommy, tune in to next week's episode to see if you're right! 😃
Mammoth and hullabaloo.....
Great guesses Sean, tune in next week to see if you got it!😃
Spaghetti and hullabaloo 😂
Spaghetti and Hullabaloo
Nice guesses Doug, tune in next week to see if you're right! 😃
Hullabaloo and mammoth.
Thanks for guessing, listen next week to see if you're right! 😃
@@efixx Thanks, fingers crossed. I don't know if you can but is it possible to convey my apologies to Gary who was at Walsall College today? I was the adult learner in the face mask who left after an hour and a half of his presentation. It was great to see you guys in person and I dearly would have loved to stay longer but I had to make an appointment with my practise nurse to have my dressings changed from the cancer op I had recently. Really enjoyed what I could stay for though.
Oh well they rob us so we rob them hahahaha😂