Fr fr… I would even say that this woman should be thankful that Justin’s team didn’t sue . Otherwise she’d been in even bigger troubles . . I know they didn’t, not because they wanted to be “kind “ to her , but probably because they didn’t want to drag more attention to this since his album was coming out shortly and proofs showing that she completely lied pretty much closed up the “scandal “ . Suing her would have just attract more media attention on this story instead of the album.
What was she trying to gain from fabricating this story? To say that a then-17 year old Justin Bieber was the father of her child was disturbing and blatantly wrong.
I don´t know how she thought this was going to end. She knew Justin wasn´t the father, she knew that he knew they never had sex and she knew that a paternity test would end all of the rumors she spread in magazines.
Judging from the leaked texts she was hoping to get cash from selling her story to the tabloids and maybe even from JB's team to make her go away. I don't know how much money she got from all this, but I wonder if it was worth it, considering she was branded crazy/scam artist/slut/laughingstock.
She was most likely a delusional woman , with possible mental health illnesses, she most likely just wanted him to acknowledge her with this crazy story and that was enough for her
I remember when the story dropped. It was hysteria but now that we’re older, we can now see how crazy this lady was for trying to make money from a lie
I remember when this happened and I was like 12-13 and I was really mean back then and I always said “she not pretty enough for this to happen to her…” or “she doesn’t even look like his type…” which was really fucked up to say. But what she was doing was cruel especially to a minor.
Hypothetically, if it WERE true, does she not realize that is considered staturtory r***? She was a grown woman knowingly "having s**" with an underaged boy (again, alledgedly) and almost factuallyy false. The fact it seems she didn't get that kind of backlash is very odd. This story is very disturbing.
There were a lot of media outlets that mentioned it. They kind of had to, since the LAPD threatened an investigation for that exact reason after she filed the paternity lawsuit. My recollection is that people started jumping on that more as it gradually became clear that she was full of sh%t.
This is the dark side of being extremely famous. There will always be stalkers, fantasists, opportunists and other mentally ill or nefarious people around looking to get something from you. I cannot believe she was never tried for allegedly sleeping with a minor. If a 20 year old dude did interviews bragging about being sexual with a 17 year old female pop star, he would be taken to court for sure.
Soo she was in her 20s and justin was 17 at the time and she really think this was okay to admit that she had intercourse with him?? Why didn’t the police get involve if she kept insisting it’s true? The cops would’ve shut her up real quick.
@@valak661 Yes, she's older. But again, they're still teenagers. So, no one will look down on that. Two years apart is nothing. I would say the exact same for a boy who's 18 and a girl that's 16. I'm OK with that, if they both feel mutual attraction to each other, and it's consensual.
@@firewind3509 he is. Justin was a kid. She's not only a liar but she a predator. But I believe the person meant to say in general terms that because Mariah is one of many women who lies about males impregnating them and being a deadbeat, it makes it harder for people to take women who make claims like these seriously when some are very true. She was obviously predatory but also a gold digging attention seeker.
Dayuumn it's crazy what fans could do under the name of love, it becomes hard to see the boundaries even that's why it's scary to idolise someone too much
I agree but that woman was not a fan but someone who knew he was ome of the biggest pop stars and saw it as an opportunity to receive money not for her family but for herself.I feel sorry for the child.
I remember thinking this was the dumbest thing I ever heard smh. Like people can hate Justin and think he was irresponsible back then, he was, but there’s a huge difference in being reckless and possibly getting a fan pregnant . This got swept under the rug and it shouldn’t have, she needed to be held accountable.
I remember this! It happened when I was in Middle School and I had debates with grown men in my family about it because I knew she was lying. People were so quick to think the worst of him.
To this day I’m still confused as to why people didn’t immediately think that the cops should get involved instead of crying that Bieber had a child. That’s my whole thought process throughout the entirety of Bieber’s career. People always treated him like an adult and would always take advantage of the fact that he was young.
Omg it’s so crazy to have lived through this and now look back on it as history. Maria is such a bop!! And Justin was probably most offended by the “30 seconds” lmao
The only thing more embarrassing than being an adult fan of a child Justin Bieber is being an adult fan lying about carrying his baby. Jobless behavior.
Wtf that's so messed up. He was a teen, still a child and he was so se^ualized by everyone. Grown freaking adults were talking, touching and salivating over a kid its just so messed up.
I really don't envy Justin's life. No wonder why the poor guy walked off stage during one of his concerts. Who wouldn't feel overwhelmed by millions of people who see him as this sex symbol? I really hope he finds peace in his life.
This is actually insane, Bieber has gone through so much and I'm glad to see that these things are taking seriously now. I could really see a new Justin Bieber docu coming up featuring all these topics
I just feel bad for the baby, I hope he's having a good life despite this incident. It's crazy to think he's about 12 years old now, he could even see this video!
Glad you're speaking about those things, I didn’t even know about some of of these. People talk about what he did that are not even that bad, but never about all the undeserved hate and unhealthy obsession he received as a teenager.
If Robbie was really sorry for Justin, he would not have supported Mariah for this because it's inhumane and selfish. You can't have it both ways and the son did not ask for this. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Justin Bieber!
She still could have made money off the scandal, if she hadn’t been exposed. Since it gained so much traction, Justin could have been forced to arrange a settlement to drop the slander. He would have been backed into a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation. Denying a paternity test would make him look like deadbeat dad who’s got something to hide. Taking a paternity test would have been a conformation that they did have an encounter, even with a negative. In the age of social media, any major reputation hit could set you’re career back. Thankfully, the Depp v. Heard trial has lessened the stigma associated with speaking up against false victim baiting.
It’s pretty insane that story was even picked up. It very obviously sounds like one of those Y/N watt pad fanfics. Adding in the “lasting 30 seconds” thing was just totally unnecessary. Such an embarrassing and gross story to try to pretend is real.
I remember this back in hs we had this whole discussion in class when this news came I felt so sad knowing he was this young a true fan wud know these allegations weren’t true 🥺🥺 and the media did him dirty
Kind of reminds me of when Justin compared himself to Michael Jackson. Of course, no one can replace Michael's legacy. But this story does give a bit of a reason for why he would say that
I had Justin’s baby too but he told me to keep it a secret. He’s a great dad though. I wouldn’t trade our little Justine for anything-she’ll be 34 this year!
I remember thinking this was a crazy story even around the time that it happen. Not to mention she was in her 20's in her claim and he was supposedly 17 so are you admitting to R-wording a child. I know she did to get money but like what? I'm not a Justin Bieber fan but the bullshit that he went through as a child was honestly sad to see.
She’s disgusting. I’m glad that her lies were proven false and that this didn’t impact his career too much because lying about something like this could have really negatively impacted him for years.
I never forgot this story. I was wondering what happened in this incident after all these years. It’s been 12 years, I’m surprised it was all a fabrication.
Hi Honest can you make a video on George Michael's career , legacy , and musical impact (similar to a Documentary) please. Because he's a legend & icon from 1980's pop Era that I feel like doesn't get as much respect or recognition like his peers MJ , Whitney Houston , Prince , and Madonna
I knew the moment I clicked the video, he was going to use the BILLIE JEAN reference I remember this story and it Ended up being the bonus track on the Deluxe Edition of the BELIEVE Album
I’m more or less convinced that this is the reason why Bieber had like five year old receipts at the ready when he was accused of sexual assault two or three years ago. Turns out he was staying in a different hotel than the accuser thought, and left a paper trail that day which rendered the accuser’s story ridiculous. People were like “Why the hell did keep that old stuff????” Well obviously because of this incident.
Thank you for mentioning about Bieber’s inspiration. I don’t think that many people know this. Even when I was hating on him at the time, I didn’t want to believe he was the father. I knew that there are teens out there that get babies before Justin’s age at the time, but Justin himself??
I like that you defend Justin. Selena made Justin look like trash so she could meticulously manufacture her "tortured soul" image. I had never liked Justin and thought he was an a-hole for years until I started seeing some ppl expose Selena. Now I feel bad for him. He knows he can't win standing up to her.
Great vid.👍🏼 I’d forgotten about this. It’s been so long. You know who else she kind of reminds me of? A “Dirty Diana” 😂 God that’s one of my .. if not my favorite song by Michael Jackson!
How is she not embarrassed??? This kid is probably 12-13 and their mother practically ruined their life! Imagine being known at school for your mothers lies that went worldwide. Absolutely disgustinng
I remember this so vividly. He didn’t deserve this kind of sick shit! I didn’t even realize how old she looked for her age. This was such a crazy moment in this fandom
I forgot all about this! I actually covered this story in an article for my high school newspaper my freshman year. It was a huuuuge deal. Thanks for the reminder.
I remember this. I feel so bad of what kind of fans Justin dealt with. This is disturbing considering he was just like 17?!
Exactly I guess back then s3xu@lising underage weren't that big of a deal, justin had some hilarious history with that
Fr fr… I would even say that this woman should be thankful that Justin’s team didn’t sue . Otherwise she’d been in even bigger troubles . . I know they didn’t, not because they wanted to be “kind “ to her , but probably because they didn’t want to drag more attention to this since his album was coming out shortly and proofs showing that she completely lied pretty much closed up the “scandal “ . Suing her would have just attract more media attention on this story instead of the album.
She should have been sued but I understand why they didn't sue, it's a waste of time, plus she can't even afford to lose
Selena was 20 as well when he was 17- so 🙈
@@I_simple isn't she just 2 years older, either way it's still bad harassing a Minor
could you imagine a 17 year old having details of his sex life talked about publicly & for it to be all a lie? that’s messed up
What was she trying to gain from fabricating this story? To say that a then-17 year old Justin Bieber was the father of her child was disturbing and blatantly wrong.
Simple - her 15 minutes 🤷♀️
He answered your question in the video. She did it for money
Her story was hella cringe
That's so psycho
I don´t know how she thought this was going to end. She knew Justin wasn´t the father, she knew that he knew they never had sex and she knew that a paternity test would end all of the rumors she spread in magazines.
Mental illness maybe.
Judging from the leaked texts she was hoping to get cash from selling her story to the tabloids and maybe even from JB's team to make her go away. I don't know how much money she got from all this, but I wonder if it was worth it, considering she was branded crazy/scam artist/slut/laughingstock.
Weird story. Yeah no idea what she thaught
She was most likely a delusional woman , with possible mental health illnesses, she most likely just wanted him to acknowledge her with this crazy story and that was enough for her
Smfh
I remember when the story dropped. It was hysteria but now that we’re older, we can now see how crazy this lady was for trying to make money from a lie
Yes, and we can’t forget that Justin was just 16-17 y old, he wasn’t even an adult!🤯
People can be so sick.😔
And disgusting bc who lies about raping a kid
HOLD ON IS THIS THE ACTUAL SIMONE? I watch you on Tiktok all the damm time
Even if you don’t like Justin or his music, you have to admit what she did was *SO* messed up
Yeah.
I remember when this happened and I was like 12-13 and I was really mean back then and I always said “she not pretty enough for this to happen to her…” or “she doesn’t even look like his type…” which was really fucked up to say. But what she was doing was cruel especially to a minor.
I said some f up stuff about this situation too don't feel too bad 😅
I said the same thing and was 12 as well 🤣🤣
I remember thinking the exact same thing and I was 22 lmao
not mean enough
I was 17/18 and I said the same thing LMFAOOOOOOO.
Hypothetically, if it WERE true, does she not realize that is considered staturtory r***? She was a grown woman knowingly "having s**" with an underaged boy (again, alledgedly) and almost factuallyy false. The fact it seems she didn't get that kind of backlash is very odd. This story is very disturbing.
There were a lot of media outlets that mentioned it. They kind of had to, since the LAPD threatened an investigation for that exact reason after she filed the paternity lawsuit. My recollection is that people started jumping on that more as it gradually became clear that she was full of sh%t.
This is the dark side of being extremely famous. There will always be stalkers, fantasists, opportunists and other mentally ill or nefarious people around looking to get something from you.
I cannot believe she was never tried for allegedly sleeping with a minor. If a 20 year old dude did interviews bragging about being sexual with a 17 year old female pop star, he would be taken to court for sure.
Did she even thought about the fact that she could be in jail if it was actually true, seeing as Justin was a minor when they supposedly “had sex”.
That poor baby is, like, 12 now. Poor kid. Hopefully life doesn't suck too bad for him. 😢
Soo she was in her 20s and justin was 17 at the time and she really think this was okay to admit that she had intercourse with him?? Why didn’t the police get involve if she kept insisting it’s true? The cops would’ve shut her up real quick.
This made me realize that Justin was 16 under age when selena was 18 😮- 😮 had the roles been reversed 😅😅
@@I_simple I don't think that's a big deal They're both teenagers Two years apart
@@diamondleo5136 Still Selena is older lol
@@valak661 Yes, she's older. But again, they're still teenagers. So, no one will look down on that. Two years apart is nothing. I would say the exact same for a boy who's 18 and a girl that's 16. I'm OK with that, if they both feel mutual attraction to each other, and it's consensual.
@@I_simple Sad life. Looking for a problem in a place where there are none.
She copied her story from Wattpad lol
That or Billie Jean.
that’s what i was thinking 😂😂😂
@@quillion3rdoptiondefinitely Billie Jean
It’s giving so much wattpad 😭
This is why nobody believes the real victims 😒😒😒
Exactly. It's sad.
Lol he’s the victim, she was 20 and he’s 17
@@firewind3509 he is. Justin was a kid. She's not only a liar but she a predator. But I believe the person meant to say in general terms that because Mariah is one of many women who lies about males impregnating them and being a deadbeat, it makes it harder for people to take women who make claims like these seriously when some are very true. She was obviously predatory but also a gold digging attention seeker.
victims of what?
@@keniyah9482 people who were impregnated by celebrities, maybe
Dayuumn it's crazy what fans could do under the name of love, it becomes hard to see the boundaries even that's why it's scary to idolise someone too much
I agree but that woman was not a fan but someone who knew he was ome of the biggest pop stars and saw it as an opportunity to receive money not for her family but for herself.I feel sorry for the child.
@@niccole3542 exactly this woman wasnt a fan of anyone
She literally called Justin "The "baby" singer" LOL
I remember thinking this was the dumbest thing I ever heard smh. Like people can hate Justin and think he was irresponsible back then, he was, but there’s a huge difference in being reckless and possibly getting a fan pregnant . This got swept under the rug and it shouldn’t have, she needed to be held accountable.
I hope the father of the child is in the baby’s life .
And gets custody
I hope her family gets her therapy
From this video it's clear the real father loves his baby
I remember this! It happened when I was in Middle School and I had debates with grown men in my family about it because I knew she was lying. People were so quick to think the worst of him.
To this day I’m still confused as to why people didn’t immediately think that the cops should get involved instead of crying that Bieber had a child. That’s my whole thought process throughout the entirety of Bieber’s career. People always treated him like an adult and would always take advantage of the fact that he was young.
Omg it’s so crazy to have lived through this and now look back on it as history. Maria is such a bop!! And Justin was probably most offended by the “30 seconds” lmao
The only thing more embarrassing than being an adult fan of a child Justin Bieber is being an adult fan lying about carrying his baby. Jobless behavior.
She said she was 20 but looked like 30
I'm sorry for JB
She should be jailed.
I was 8 when this happened, but I can't believe people actually believed this, my God.
Wtf that's so messed up. He was a teen, still a child and he was so se^ualized by everyone. Grown freaking adults were talking, touching and salivating over a kid its just so messed up.
god your channel speaks to me. i remember following this mess in real time
she sounds like she was writing a fanfic 😭
I really don't envy Justin's life. No wonder why the poor guy walked off stage during one of his concerts. Who wouldn't feel overwhelmed by millions of people who see him as this sex symbol? I really hope he finds peace in his life.
That's so embarrassing for a woman in her 20's to be doing. 20 years old!? Poor Justin
This is actually insane, Bieber has gone through so much and I'm glad to see that these things are taking seriously now. I could really see a new Justin Bieber docu coming up featuring all these topics
Hollywood is no place for child stars.
Maria is such a great song tho. But I feel so bad for Justin, the industry and media literally destroyed him.
This is so terrible! The humanity of public figures are clouded by their status as rich and famous individuals.
YES! I remember this mess at the time, and occasionally wondered what happened to her. Come thru, Honest! 💚
I just feel bad for the baby, I hope he's having a good life despite this incident. It's crazy to think he's about 12 years old now, he could even see this video!
Glad you're speaking about those things, I didn’t even know about some of of these. People talk about what he did that are not even that bad, but never about all the undeserved hate and unhealthy obsession he received as a teenager.
If Robbie was really sorry for Justin, he would not have supported Mariah for this because it's inhumane and selfish. You can't have it both ways and the son did not ask for this.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Justin Bieber!
She’s a weirdo but Maria is a BOP
I’m sorry what she was 20!?! And he was underage.. she’s so wrong
She still could have made money off the scandal, if she hadn’t been exposed. Since it gained so much traction, Justin could have been forced to arrange a settlement to drop the slander.
He would have been backed into a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation. Denying a paternity test would make him look like deadbeat dad who’s got something to hide. Taking a paternity test would have been a conformation that they did have an encounter, even with a negative. In the age of social media, any major reputation hit could set you’re career back.
Thankfully, the Depp v. Heard trial has lessened the stigma associated with speaking up against false victim baiting.
Holy crap this unlocked a core memory😭😭😭 I remembered tabloids were all over this and this was what everyone was talking about
He was literally 17 like thats too much for a teenage boy. So sad
What in the Wattpad 😰
LMFAOOOOOOO. I remember this story. Wasn't she on Dr Phil? It was also disturbing that she was about 20 and he was 17.
i didn’t realize how young he was at the time wtf??
maria is such a fire song omfg
I remember buying the magazine just because of this headline
It’s pretty insane that story was even picked up. It very obviously sounds like one of those Y/N watt pad fanfics. Adding in the “lasting 30 seconds” thing was just totally unnecessary. Such an embarrassing and gross story to try to pretend is real.
I remember this back in hs we had this whole discussion in class when this news came I felt so sad knowing he was this young a true fan wud know these allegations weren’t true 🥺🥺 and the media did him dirty
I saw her Facebook years ago. She just cussed everyone out. And she doesn’t have custody of her son.
the song Maria still hits lol
Maria song by Justin is a total Vibe
This is sad and crazy at the same time. Some ppl need to go to therapy wtf
With all the crazy shit that has been going on with the Biebers, I like what you're doing..
tbh this channel deserves it, i love watching honest
Your content is unmatched 💙
this story sounds like some random wattpad trash fanfic this is so gross omg
Kind of reminds me of when Justin compared himself to Michael Jackson. Of course, no one can replace Michael's legacy. But this story does give a bit of a reason for why he would say that
A wattpad's fanfiction dream😂
Shes so creepy, writing a fanfic and acting like its a reality. Even insinuating that he lost his Virginity to her is so gross
I had Justin’s baby too but he told me to keep it a secret. He’s a great dad though. I wouldn’t trade our little Justine for anything-she’ll be 34 this year!
I feel sad for Justin and her child.
I remember thinking this was a crazy story even around the time that it happen. Not to mention she was in her 20's in her claim and he was supposedly 17 so are you admitting to R-wording a child. I know she did to get money but like what? I'm not a Justin Bieber fan but the bullshit that he went through as a child was honestly sad to see.
When the father said they were homeless, it made a lot of sense.
She’s disgusting. I’m glad that her lies were proven false and that this didn’t impact his career too much because lying about something like this could have really negatively impacted him for years.
I never forgot this story. I was wondering what happened in this incident after all these years. It’s been 12 years, I’m surprised it was all a fabrication.
I know hes been a douche, but damn hes been through a lot. faced a lot of hate and even abuse from people
Yeah
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Shiii Maria is a fire ass song too😂 top 3 favorite song on the beloved album
I thought this was Sloan's video at first. Best not to copy. You've already got a good following.
lol same 😅
Imagine this being the prime of your life
Hi Honest can you make a video on George Michael's career , legacy , and musical impact (similar to a Documentary) please. Because he's a legend & icon from 1980's pop Era that I feel like doesn't get as much respect or recognition like his peers MJ , Whitney Houston , Prince , and Madonna
I knew the moment I clicked the video, he was going to use the BILLIE JEAN reference
I remember this story and it Ended up being the bonus track on the Deluxe Edition of the BELIEVE Album
This was disturbing
I’m more or less convinced that this is the reason why Bieber had like five year old receipts at the ready when he was accused of sexual assault two or three years ago. Turns out he was staying in a different hotel than the accuser thought, and left a paper trail that day which rendered the accuser’s story ridiculous. People were like “Why the hell did keep that old stuff????” Well obviously because of this incident.
I just wanna know what that kid is upto these days. Does he know that "his father is Justin Bieber "
This is so embarrassing omfg I'd actually never show my face again after this
I remember seeing this on the news 😮 omgg
The lengths people will go to just to make up a lie
lmao the way she threw in the 30 seconds part
Thank you for mentioning about Bieber’s inspiration. I don’t think that many people know this.
Even when I was hating on him at the time, I didn’t want to believe he was the father. I knew that there are teens out there that get babies before Justin’s age at the time, but Justin himself??
girl thinks she is y/n 💀
Lol I remember this.
It was EVERYWHERE!
I wondered what happened to her and the baby.
she need to be in jail
I like that you defend Justin. Selena made Justin look like trash so she could meticulously manufacture her "tortured soul" image. I had never liked Justin and thought he was an a-hole for years until I started seeing some ppl expose Selena. Now I feel bad for him. He knows he can't win standing up to her.
Amazing timing, Honest! I was just thinking about this incident the other day. 😂
She looks like an off brand version of Mischa Barton.
"yeah the baby has his nose 🥺" GURLLLL IF YOU DON'T PUT THAT BABY BACK IN THAT DAMN STROLLER 😭😭 the ex seems chill tho
Great vid.👍🏼 I’d forgotten about this. It’s been so long.
You know who else she kind of reminds me of? A “Dirty Diana” 😂 God that’s one of my .. if not my favorite song by Michael Jackson!
I remember, that was nuts 😂
Omg is this a reupload I can’t help but feel deja vu when I heard you read what she said about their “first time”
Didn't he write "Maria" about her?
Let's you know people before you jump on the cancel culture wagon when you hear rumors and allegations...GET PROOF FIRST 🤨 I knew she was lying
How is she not embarrassed??? This kid is probably 12-13 and their mother practically ruined their life! Imagine being known at school for your mothers lies that went worldwide. Absolutely disgustinng
A woman did the same to boy george even though he never touched a woman like ever lol
she had the best justin bieber song written abt her damn …😭
will there be a melanie martinez portals video?
She’s crazy and she looked older than 20
I remember this so vividly. He didn’t deserve this kind of sick shit! I didn’t even realize how old she looked for her age. This was such a crazy moment in this fandom
She was 20 going on 45 I guess. And why would her grandfather know any of this; was he at the concert?
I forgot all about this! I actually covered this story in an article for my high school newspaper my freshman year. It was a huuuuge deal.
Thanks for the reminder.
When you are reading the lady side of the story I cringed so hard 😂🤣🤣...it was a well though out lie but so damn cringe😅