ATC and Pilots get HEATED in Busy Airspace! Microsoft Flight Simulator (747-8 LAX)
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2022
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UPS flight 705 (Boeing 747-8F) arrives at the Los Angeles Int'l (KLAX) during peak hours on the VATSIM network in Microsoft Flight Simulator. Things get a bit heated on frequency.
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4:35 is actually a conflict alarm in vSTARS, which, given how busy SoCal airspace was I'm kinda surprised there was only one that got transmitted over frequency
Probably a CA in the final box when STARs doesn't detect that stuff
Yeah I'm sure it was a pair for parallel runways or some other non-problem since there wasn't a "traffic alert... immediately" or anything
@@Unionhawk73 akward when you are transmitting and the CA sound is going off in the background
@@andrewlorenzo6611 STARS has a CA suppression feature that you can define for the final box. If you have a good FE they'll add it
That is good information thank you
Now we just need an ATC tower point of view, some hot air balloons and we are SET
Don't forget planes slewing all over the place, merging with other planes as well as the ground. Space Shuttle action too.
and POOPOO2
We are so close………😂
Actually now that you mention it, DOES this simulator have some sort of ATC function? I'm curious as to how this whole thing works for people that have that role.
@@JJMomoida Yup, basically there is a thing called VATSIM. The VATSIM network allows for multiplayer between almost every simulator, X-plane, MSF2020, MSFX, etc. VATSIM has their own controllers who are trained and operate the different airports. You can actually become a controller but it takes a lot of work and I'm in the midst of training for it lol.
normally in for the hilarity, but i was so hooked by the professionalism in this that i couldn't quit watching. welcome back man!
I love this channel but I find that the hilarity was more frequent in the X version with all its nonsense.
@@MultiJamesman Agreed. FlightSim X with its nonsense mods and seemingly endless amount of people who didnt have a clue what they were doing provided a lot of hilarity.
Well said
Yeah, exactly!👌
I felt such a wholesome moment when he said "great job" to the ATC and they replied "thank you sir"
“Quick cocaine run, sorry quick *cargo* run.” Made me die 😂
Got a heavy load of South American snow.
Columbian Bam-Bam.
This is the quote of the video that made my day!
I'm just going to park here at this dimly lit and very suspicious spot on the South cargo ramp...
I'd love to see an ATC respond af95 style to these drug.. I mean quality medication runs. Would be a fun video. Add a blue angel policing the area.
normally the vatsim ATCs are so professional sounding, (and how most RP groups disguise info like disconnects and such) so was funny to hear one just say "do it or disconnect" :)
they're getting tired of people coming into a busy LAX/BOS/ATL airspace and not being able to control their plane, unable to read a chart or descend via a STAR
@@slappymcgillicuddy7532 Yeah, I can understand using outdated navdata and not having a waypoint in your database, but not being able to follow vectors is nonsense.
@ I think it wasn't even that he wasn't able to follow the vectors, it was just a childish way of saying "I'm doing it my way anyway" I think...
@ worst part is that he agreed to the ANJLL4 arrival. so that means he has GLESN or hes agreeing to something he doesnt have, which is pilots fault.
Nah pilots fault by far, busy airspace you cant take the vector or route on published arrival then you need to disconnect. General rule once your experience starts to ruin other peoples experience then its time to disconnect and try again.
That "phone call" was not a phone call... it was his radar yelling at him he's having conflict with two planes about to go touchy touchy lol
"maintain vis sep", problem solved!
Hopefully it was two planes on parallel runways
A real pilot would have recognized this. Good call.
make touch, not war.
Considering the state in which UPS stuff usually arrives, I'm going to go on a limb here and say that landing was well within UPS safety standards. Good job PreggoTurtle69!
I worked at an FBO's receiving department one summer. Our standard was to have everything shipped FedEx unless the customer specified otherwise. We referred to UPS as "Unbreakable Parcel Service" after the day that we got a flight data recorder that arrived *broken* via UPS. (They broke the prongs off the power/data connector sockets; near as we could tell, two guys with forklifts had played soccer with the shipping case en route.)
Funny, I’ve had more stuff broken by FedEx than UPS. I guess it just depends, huh.
@@aaronwestley3239 Man, you have *no* idea how much fun it is trying to RMA an FDR. "Right, so why do you want to return it?" "Arrived broken in shipment." "...what."
@@rdfox76 I imagine the conversation from there went a bit like, "you know they're supposed to survive a crash, right?"
"Yeah man I know but idk what to tell you, it's broken"
Lets be honest… fedex arrives broken and/or late 60% of the time. Id rather have USPS delivery package than fedex to touch it
Edit: better yet id rather have china post take care of my package over fedex
… i really dont mean that china post blows
“Center UPS705 is under attack by multiple tugs here on the ground, PLEASE CALL THE COPS!” Is the best thing I’ve heard today
And then ".....copy"
getting called out by atc is the stuff of nightmares lol
All fun and games until ATC gives the pilot a number to call.😵
@@Nathan93Baker VATSIM version the guy just gives out his mobile number so he can shout at the other guy xD
Hey I'm sorry but why did ATC call him out? What did he do wrong? I'm not a pilot and would like to know
@@davidemartorana4708 ATC told him to fly to a certain waypoint and the pilot (not AFP, another one on frequency) said it didn't exist on his chart. ATC then told him to go redownload the chart as it does exist. pilot then said unable (this means he refuses the instructions for some reason), ATC gave him another option, pilot said unable again and ATC lost patience and said do what I say or get off the VATSIM network.
ATC was completely in the right.
@@skellious he probably thought GLESN was a transition and couldn't find it on the FMS lol
"i don't mean to embarrass you but you're matching speed with an embraer"
*begins to lose control of airplane*
The "FFFFFF-UHHHHHH" That was pretty much every pilot in that area at that time trying to listen for their callsigns. LOL
Yea, impressed with the guys running the ATC.
The mating of the jet with the cargo terminal needed to be narrated by David Attenborough.
“Precious Bodily Fluids, Mr President!”
Even with some arguing that was very professional by (almost) everyone! Always makes it more enjoyable!
Just a heads up, to get a more realistic feeling on a night flight on the sim, turn off all the lights in the room. It makes it much more realistic.
That is a fact.
@@Khakifantastic I have VR but I don't have MFS2020 T-T
@@Khakifantastic Turning off the lights is much cheaper though.
The only problem here is that the guy is streaming so we need light to see his face
Ah, this is also a good idea for viewing experience. Thank you.
I know this LA Center controller personally. He had a real rough night with new pilots.
Not gonna like, but they sounded like JFK Steve almost.
30 Seconds in and AirForceProud is pissed and confused 😆
"Oh my God WTF is this?"
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Backstreet?
Video uploaded 44 minutes ago, your comment was posted 52 minutes ago?? Little sus.
To be honest, he never left our hearts.
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A-rank: 1 Death
An unnamed Colombian man in a white leisure suit, smoking a cigar with aviators on was shot multiple times in the chest in the cargo bay. A crate of powdered sugar was left unaccounted for once landing in LA. That however does not affect your rank.
Nice flying captain 👍🏻
Real life version of this seems very hectic for all involved.
Part of why ATC can pay out six figures, it's a very high stress job that absolutely needs to be done right.
@@celestine5231 pilots make 6 figures to do the flights, ATC making 6 figures to manage the flights, haha. feels nice whenever flying to know your life is in the hands of people being paid a LOT for their job.
@@peterron924 more risk high reward logic is what's it's mostly called. Though the risk part did decrease a lot.
I’m amazed that more pilots and ATCs don’t get into fist fights in the airport break room from time to time
@@CharlieApples only cause the ATC crew are so exhausted after a shift lol they gotta be 100% on the ball non stop for hours on end, and the stakes are pretty damn high.
Pilots have less power, you don't fuck with traffic unless you want to explain to management why you had to go around and join the back of the queue. Which is still better than having a friendly chat with the FAA
as an air traffic controller I can't imagine anyone who does this for their actual job, doing this in their spare time lmao it sounds pretty decent though phraseology-wise if it consists on non controllers/non pilots
As a pilot I feel the same way. Cool none the less but when I sim I’m not tryin to be standard and follow rules, I can just go to work for that 😂
From what I've read, a lot of the players are actual ATC students practicing
Always entertaining. Don’t know if you want any pointers but couple things I noticed.
1: Airline definition of a “Stabilized approach” is for you to be fully configured (Flaps & Gear) and on GS & LOC by 1000’ AGL. Then on speed by 500’. In case you wanted to dial in your procedures more. Usually we swing gear and start final configuration of Aircraft about 5mi from to hot those parameters every time.
2: Shut Down engines before turning off beacon. Beacon is used to let ground personal know when to approach aircraft to put in chocks and get ground power hooked up. They don’t want to approach the A/C till engines are winding down.
Minor things but you seem to appreciate getting things accurate.
Awesome insight. That's cool.
Back when I lived in LA, I loved seeing the double lines of lights in the sky that were all the jets making their approach into LAX. Thanks for bringing back a neat memory!
I never played any sim of this scale. But I will say seeing these videos and listening to the ATCs is actually the reason I’m currently saving for flight lessons because I may one day try and do this for my job for the rest of my life. Great videos and even though these are just games, very inspirational to keep pushing to get airborne irl. So thank you!
Follow your dreams man, you go!
Nice
The professionalism is just on another level. The vectoring, the landing clearance and the taxi instructions all sounded real. well done to everyone involved
poor guy who took ATC at LAX. this man is insane! gotta respect the dedication
The LA cemter controller is named Derek, he is a twitch streamer with his twitch name being ground_point_niner
VATSIM never fails to disappoint
As an airline guy I’ve always been fairly impressed with the mostly standard phraseology of those playing ATC. Of course a lot of the pilots in VATSIM I’ve seen also struggle with the basics but that’s to be expected. Seems like it be fun to try out.
@@SidestickPilot It's really nice, took me a solid 3 months to get a hang of it fluently.
@@852twm fr, I had to use a cheat sheet that contained what to say to ATC in each scenario
What does VATSIM mean
In what way? Personally, I really enjoy the VATSIM videos.
Not that its important, but when tower said "Clear to cargo via alpha, monitor ground." It means you're cleared and don't actually have to contact ground, you just have to change your frequency to ground in case they need you. But, nothing wrong with it if you still want to contact i guess.
Man, what are the odds. I work for UPS at PHX, so this was cool. Tip for more realism: UPS is on the opposite end of that building, you were parked in FedEx's area.
Well someone has to be. Working for UPS, you must know that your "competition", FedEx, probably sucks as at getting anywhere and actually utilizing their space.
@@dyanosis Oh, they utilize the space alright, just not for jets. They just throw all their ULDs on the ramp, so on the off chance they do have a jet come in the jet blast throws their bullshit all over the place.
I've worked at Sky Harbor for over 10 years and I've never seen UPS do what you did in the intro 🤣. That sunset was spectacular btw!
what youve never saw a UPS place move foward 100 feet slam into a building without causing damage and then ended up on the middle of the tarmac? 😂😂😂😂😂
its nice to see how the sweaty 12 y/os of flight sim have all grown up now.
Ohyea, now they are sweaty AND stinky
Always used to skip over the vatsim videos because I wrongly assumed they wouldn't be interesting.
Amazed by the professionalism of all the controllers and other aircraft on comms. Great stuff man
This final approach looked like it was the real LAX traffic... A plane landing and taking off every 2 to 5 minutes... And the VATSIM ATC, great job on managing that traffic!
Seeing the problem between the pilot and the ATC in the first minutes, I assume that missing navaids and incorrect approach/depart patterns is a regular occation if you are not running a paid Navigraph NavData with a matching SimBrief AIRAC cycle plan, and you are programming the whatever approach using the default msfs nav data. Assuming you don't have access to charts as well (didn't find any via Google Search and you don't have a navigraph chart sub), is this a regular thing that you'll get scoulded by the VATSIM ATC for calling out a missing nav point? The pilot had the wrong vibe going while calling out "unable", but I get their position.
You're probably right about the first part. But at least for any US flying, all up to date charts are publicly available (by the FAA, and hosted for easy use on skyvector for example) so not many excuses to have the wrong charts. Though I can see it becoming an issue if they don't have the right procedures loaded into the sim GPS/FMS which just having the up to date charts might not help with the actual procedure flying.
well if you call ANJLL4 arrival, youre agreeing to the clearance that has that STAR
You're expected to have the latest AIRAC installed when flying on VATSIM, so that's pretty normal I guess?
It depends, if someone doesn't have the latest STAR that's one thing, but if someone says they have ANJLL4 but are unable a point on that arrival that's questionable to me
He said he had the ANGLL4 or whatever it was. Just not that waypoint that wasn't a transition
ATC..friggin savage.
So this guy is the reason why my packages from UPS all come beat up to hell and back, huh?
4:35 You're going to get a crazy phone bill. Always put it in airplane mode before takeoff.
You should fly in Europe, we're cool.
8:46 I busted out laughing right here when the trucks u-turned like that
LOVE these videos with full ATC, especially when you can see and hear the traffic on approach
VATSIM is so good when it's busy and everything is flowing well.
I just discovered this type of gameplays, and I’m in love with them. It’s fascinating
3:00 was a beautiful shot
8:57 "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one ..." you made my day !
The subtitles are always a delight on these videos, the change to serious simming feels good but I love the nods to the past Kilo
Microsoft should pay these ATCs
That is a great idea IMO, they are basically moderators.
@@VeraTR909 it’s vatsim completely different
It's vatsim, has nothing at all to do with microsoft. You can use multiple simulators to join vatsim. MSFS just happens to be compatible.
Thank you for the laugh at the beginning. I don’t have any home internet at the moment after what was probably a tornado that rolled through my city and my cell service has been a bit spotty so it helped cheer me up a good bit.
8:47 wish i can u-turn like that lol
Thank you for the snow delivery to Los Angeles, that's about the only thing not affected by inflation these days.
That was awesome. May your wings alway see the glory.
One time I had an American Airlines refuse atc directives when I was spacing them into Phoenix. He refused to turn or slow down. Found out that if you say, “just want to confirm that you are refusing an ATC directive” they tend to cooperate real quick. My OM went directly to his company as soon as he heard me say that. Hehe ;)
Good job holding that licalozer and glodeslipe. Solid job!
i had the same in KATL today (220522) on vatsim 100% top job to all the controller on the network
Are those real people doing the ATC? if not, it is crazy how real it feels. And if yes, wild af that they made this haha. so dope.
Yeah they are real people.. its called VATSIM. I just don't understand why someone would want to pay money to do what looks like a stressful job
@@derpnerpwerp same reason people grind World of Warcraft Raids or Role Play like it is religion lol. Some people just have a passion for a specific grind. This is one of many. Some make you scratch your head and wonder "why?" but as long as people are having fun with the games - that is the point. Some of the coms have been hilarious so far so I can see the appeal of bullshitting/talking with other people in the aviation community.
Another entertaining video with VATSIM. Ya, a little impatience on the departure, but cool ATC on arrival! Always great to see the airport lights at night! Great flight. Blue skies!
I enjoyed this episode, that landing felt tense lol
For people just playing a game ATC did a beautiful job dealing with a high-velocity of aircrafts
*volume
it's not a game, it's a simulator
@@PutsOnSneakers whats the difference
@@Rmgtn It is a game technically, but It's more realistic than the typical arcade-style game and is used by actual aviators and ATC to sharpen their skills without going through the time and expense to do the real thing
Always amazing to see these videos; they look great, the comms traffic is very well handled; it's all great!
I am glad you nailed your "glodeslipe" mister Airforceproud.
I rarely fly, I am not involved in aviation or gaming, I have never been to the west coast, and yet...I love this channel!!!!
P.S. the "gear up" hoodie has been on my wishlist for a least a year! Hoping to afford it for Christmas!
Top notch content, as always. Big props to all ATC in that session.
are those real people he's communicating with? that is so cool.
Videos like these make me super excited for the opportunity I'm getting to learn to fly a small airplane next week. I can't wait! Thanks for the inspiration!
Im not sure why Im so invested in this guy I found over the weekend but I can't stop watching your vids. Great work!
I can definitely see the benefit of having a copilot to help with the checklist
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Unbelievable how busy LAX is...never knew how much comms actually goes into safely landing an aircraft..Well done Sir and Thank you for your service
its a game you sad act
Just stumbled upon and fell in love with your content. Excellent work just managing the aircraft, comma are great and quality is tops. Subbed without a doubt!
I'm so awed by the time and effort it must take to be able to fly a realistic simulated plane, and even more awed by the folks doing ATC, who don't even get the nice views. I had fun on FSX but I never even managed to fly through those stupid rings.
Loving the Microsoft Fruit Simulator content as usual
Great video bro awsome professionalism from the ATC, i could watch this all day!
Love this, Keep up the great work. Love when there is live ATC!
“Quick Cocain- sorry cargo run”
No high speed hot air balloon fly bys? Meh 😕 sad
Flown in and out of LA before but with no ATC online (time zone difference) but I have to say I'm flabbergasted how VATSIM LA Tower controllers sound very much their real life counterparts
Welllll full disclosure...I used to be a controller for LA Center in Palmdale, CA. I'm now a CFII working towards my ATPL. I've had some real world experience
-LAX South Tower
I love working with that LA Center controller. He has a no crap attitude which is nice.
AFP95 hates Slew mode and Slew mode hates him
AFP95 isn't just hearing beef
He's having beef with the slew mode
How do you activate slew mode , if you don’t mind me asking?
Slew in MSFS is pretty janky, in all fairness
@@kyle734 you have to assign a command
Worst. Haiku. Ever.
@@bigmo611 I didn't expect myself making a haiku
I wish it was actually possible to join as an ATC but the waiting lists are literally years long
It took my 3.5 years and COVID didn't help anything. If you want to be a controller, just apply and go through the process. You can back if if you change your mind.
dude I f$&kin love your AF1 video.
subbed almost instantly.
love the content
Always good to watch bro!
To whosoever reads this (including AFP95 himself...) thanks to all of your vids and comments I got into the Flight Sim community, I started flying Cessnas this week, hoping to do some commerical flights once I'm familiar w/everything regarding aviation.
Thank you very much for your kindness in VATSIM. God bless!
The 208 is a good aircraft to fly at the beginning, it's pretty forgiving, built like a tank, and the stock version has a G1000. When you start with airliners, I'd strongly recommend the FlyByWire A32NX mod over the stock A320 as it allows you to pull a SimBrief flightplan right into the FMS. The Airbus is also really easy to learn how to fly and the autothrottle and autopilot systems are pretty quick to learn. I'd recommend P Gatcombs channel for quick vids on how to use both the G1000 and airliner systems.
Man i wish the old trolling stuff was back
Nice video. Really loving just watching you fly. Great ATC in this one.
Please more designs on stickers!
Good to see you around. Enjoy the fun messing around videos.
So you're the reason my virtual UPS package was absolutely smashed to hell...
You owe me a new imaginary Hunky Hector Mexican Love Doll. >:(
Microsoft fruit simulator looks fricking good
That was busy. Great video.
Ah man, definitely one of my favorite youtubers is back with another great one! Keep em coming! Gear up!
It’s about time for another weird/mean comment video NOW!
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@@Airforceproud95 nice vids (:
Nice video! As always!
That was some insane comms from everyone on the net. Man I love simulators like this.
This is incredible, how do you get into this?
@@amphibiancircuits8884 lmao does everyone at airline school play this I take it?
@@-BL1NKY probably i mean sh its a good way to make sure yk what u doing
@@-BL1NKY Check out the various vatsim communities and flying groups.
How does someone "learn" Flight Sim well enough to participate in server environments like this? I've never played but it seems rather interesting. Are there solid tutorials to go with?
I think you literally just have to know how to be a pilot lmao
I was thinking the same thing. I don't want to try it out and have a bunch of dorks talking shit.
@@chazmichaelmichaels88 You don't? And those "bunch of dorks" are the ones you just watched a video of. It's because of those "bunch of dorks" that you even know what this is like. So how about you watch how you talk about people.
@@dyanosis msfs videos have been on the internet for years and years, I give zero credit to these "dorks".
I used to live in Inglewood right next to LAX. I was just a block East of the freeway. I had airplanes flying overhead constantly and let me tell you they were loud you they were loud and I could tell you all kinds of things about what happens over there.
This is the only game that I could watch for hours. Especially when everyone works together. Great video.
thank you for bringing the cargo
I live in Phoenix, and the cargo ramp's on the south side of the KPHX, along a section of I-10 and I-17. Can confirm UPS aircraft dry humping the warehouses is a thing.
This is so incredibly professional, i love it
Impressive communication
This was the Cali event last night! I had that same guy in SoCal approach. Dude was overloaded the whole night but did a damn good job.