Songwriting Workshop II with Larry Dvoskin

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    This is a continuation of the songwriting process as well as life lessons by the author about how to turn your passion for music, from hobby into a career. The songwriting professor Mr. Dvoskin is available to present 'master classes' worldwide, and from time to time schedule depending available for private "hire" to offer songwriting services, career coaching, and even song production. For professional inquiries:
    Contact: Todayisthefuture@gmail.com
    www.miraclemusicinc.com
    September 23, 2009
    Interactive songwriting lecture and workshop by Grammy-nominated songwriter and producer Larry Dvoskin.

Комментарии • 89

  • @teeny9041
    @teeny9041 10 лет назад +6

    this workshop is amazing. I am a HUGE fan of Larry Dvoskin as of right now.

  • @acoustically9201
    @acoustically9201 Год назад +2

    Larry's speech bubble is going ''how the hell did we go from Simon & Garfunkel to this in 45yrs'' Wonder what he thinks 13ys on - man he must have some dark nights of the soul listening to the radio today.

  • @burnhamarts
    @burnhamarts 9 лет назад +2

    "Clay can be molded" into the third version, but only because she was lucky enough to have Larry come by and want to help. Alas, most of us will never be that lucky. Luck is a big part, but someone with production talent has to feel sorry for you enough to do something that dramatic.

  • @rdoetjes
    @rdoetjes 11 лет назад

    Hi mate, I am not from the US our school system is different but I think you'd call it community college. It's a 4 year course 3 years in class 1 year doing 2 internships.
    Electronics these days made a shift to more microcontroller based stuff so I'd definitely readup/experiment with microcontrollers and digital technology. I build props for other performers and I use Arduinos and FEZ Pandas they are off the shelf super easy to use and dirt cheap.

  • @jamesm8515
    @jamesm8515 9 лет назад +3

    Funny you mentioned stairway to heaven Tyler…I wonder if today that song would even get airplay. I doubt LZ would allow them to butcher it down to 3 1/2 mins . But I feel the same way…I don't even listen to the radio anymore because it's all generic crap with no substance ! If artists wrote music like the 70's era sound I'd be all over it…unfortunately the younger audience today are programmed . I'm the same way when I attempt to write …if it isn't comparable to anything before the dance music and hip hop train…the perfectionist part of me takes over and says ahhh f@%# it ! I'm hoping I'm not crippled by arthritis when the world decides what good music is ,and what makes it on the radio.

  • @radbot1
    @radbot1 9 лет назад +5

    Once I saw Chevy Chase I couldn't unsee Chevy Chase.

  • @nihilgeist666
    @nihilgeist666 12 лет назад +2

    1:10:55 whatever that "music" playing is; it's hurting my ears. when it was over I didn't feel ill anymore.

  • @phenoumene
    @phenoumene 8 лет назад +3

    "To make 1000 steps, 1 has to be made" chinese saying

  • @CarvelJFru
    @CarvelJFru 11 лет назад +1

    I hope you guys didnt have to pay to listen to this pish.

  • @sidewalk1512
    @sidewalk1512 8 лет назад +1

    The quote is from Confucius "the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"

  • @babyirene3188
    @babyirene3188 9 лет назад +3

    Some good stuff here. But no mention's made of the low level of popular songwriting in the modern era. It's a very long way down from the Platters to Kelly Clarkson. No one will be playing KC in 10 yrs. "Smoke Gets' will always be heard somewhere. How about talking about that. Popular songwriting won't get better before it's acknowledged the level of crap that's being generated and released. You might get paid for landing a J.LO cut but is anybody proud of the work? Aim higher.

    • @avedic
      @avedic 9 лет назад

      Agreed. Imo, there IS comparable modern music to the amazing stuff made in the past. Animal Collective's _Meeriweather Post Pavillion_, MGMT's _Oracular Spectacular_, Yeasayer's _All Hour Cymbals_, Yeah Yeah Yeah's _Is Is_, and MIA's _Kala_ are all *_genius_* albums imo...and all released within the past 10 years. There *_is_* amazing music...sadly, it's just not what's top-40 radio. That's unfortunate...but at least it _exists_. The internet has simply flattened everything out. There will _never_ be another band like the Beatles because music distribution itself is just _so SO_ different. But....amazing music _does_ exist. I just wish *_that music_* was what ended up on top-40. That ended around 2000....right around when American Idol hit the scene. It's sad....or is it? I mean, at least amazing music *_does_* still exist...regardless of if it appears in top-40 pop radio or not.

    • @babyirene3188
      @babyirene3188 9 лет назад

      There's art and there's formula (and permutations of both). This 'teacher' is all formula. Which is fine. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous. That's what rubs the wrong way. There's very little art involved in what the 'teacher' is pushing. And formula isn't a big part of legendary records.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    my friend or today a clsssmate that "romance & spiritual song , was! boring because because you put to many walls up , (blocks) writing is simple to listener, not incorporated!! too much intelligence! knock down the barriers! dont be overly informative ____ its not real infomation!!!!!!!!!!!!?

  • @denisespurlock
    @denisespurlock 7 лет назад

    For free demo. music, RUclips: Heartbroken Song Writer. Looking for recording artist and film placement for my songs.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    TRUTH is perceptions , is in the eye of the keyholder , thats why we learn , and why i go backwards to regain, you have to kearn larry from of off a music video or your not hip!!!

  • @rdoetjes
    @rdoetjes 12 лет назад

    Why go to uni or college in general? All the do is tell you stuff that is in books, so just read the books or download the audio colleges these days :D
    I studied electronics and 98% I do in my business I learned myself.

  • @nihilgeist666
    @nihilgeist666 12 лет назад

    1:23:13 wait...... wait..... WHAT THE FUCK?... this is even worse. SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF MY EARS! I need aspirin. this is music for people who like American Idol audition losers.

  • @runfast891
    @runfast891 11 лет назад

    its tough holding farts in lecture. if i got i silent one with no hot chicks around....well ya kno what happens next.

  • @diegoambrosio
    @diegoambrosio 12 лет назад +1

    After listening to the stages of production of the song by the gym teacher, I must say: Larry, you're a genious!

  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana1234 10 лет назад +2

    Go to "Nelson Montana How To Write a Song" And it will all become painfully clear.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    manz i reallly wrote this song the lyrics and the beat , and the music video .. ~ZXX, &nd got paid 55,000 after being offered 55,000,000 ... i still love um even though the secret ride is over! 💕 ~scrubz| (never new about the game till yesterday __sorry fellas god lost) ~iloveyathough!

  • @josephbreault2612
    @josephbreault2612 10 лет назад

    all the hater comments all i have to say is if it was easy to write a hit or even copy someone from the radio and get noticed everyone would do it,

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 10 месяцев назад

      A. It is easy to copy someone from the radio if you are a decent musician.
      B. Usually a "hit" is not the better music, it is the more sellable commodity to an already psychologically conditioned public.

  • @Growdyman
    @Growdyman 10 лет назад +1

    Larry is the coolest. Got a lot of out of this!

  • @MrMikomi
    @MrMikomi 2 года назад

    What a great guy! I only stumbled upon him in these old workshop videos a couple of days ago. Many thanks Larry and also the college and uploader. Onto the next one!

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 11 лет назад +1

    How cliche was the written song around an hour in ?? I am not a writer, but I think my main problem is my expectations. I would have to write a song like Stairway to Heaven before my brain would even accept it and put it to paper. And yet it frustrates me to death when I listen to the radio and every song is one or two words repeated over and over, And they are auto tuned, and those two words are not exactly William Shakespeare. Will.I.Am is just the worst for this, and yet he sells millions.

  • @wolei7712
    @wolei7712 2 года назад

    So many wonderful things I can say about this teacher, but all I can say is thank you for sharing this. Vibrant students too.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    that song smoke gets in your eye , is about eletricuting gods father , and dropping sense to; till he comes down, and if he Really is there, there will be fire! ~2019!

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 5 лет назад

    feminine does kill the way

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    I WROTE TEEN SPIRIT YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY THAT WE KNOW LARRY IN THE INDUSTRY!!! ~TRASH IS WHAT I MEANT B THAT VIDEO , AND ME IS THE 2ND VERSE!! I WAS 8 OR SOMETHING!

  • @drumguy1384
    @drumguy1384 12 лет назад +1

    Great info. I'm really enjoying this series. One small thing though, and it really doesn't matter to the point of the series, but the quote he wrote on the board, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a singe step." (or, more correctly "begins where one stand.") is a well known Chinese proverb written by Lao Tsu (Laozi) in the Tao Te Qing, but it also commonly mistakenly attributed to his contemporary Confucius.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 5 лет назад

    to make my boss my boss; and YOU come with thats depression from the 30's,, fing iodine

  • @MichaelLynMusic
    @MichaelLynMusic 9 лет назад

    This is Really Great stuff to be teaching to these folks! ...Thanks Larry

  • @estevejame7398
    @estevejame7398 7 лет назад

    The song Strange Fruit was bitter bitter so there is always an exception . 27

  • @AlexPerisho
    @AlexPerisho 12 лет назад

    So many accents.

  • @knotmeigh2919
    @knotmeigh2919 10 лет назад +1

    1:07:11 I think that dude just ate one...

  • @xxJILLZxx
    @xxJILLZxx 8 лет назад +1

    nobody knows TLC

  • @AvaPxiaO
    @AvaPxiaO 9 лет назад

    My question that remains unanswered is: Can a gifted songwiter take any music piece and match it to any lyrics? Some write music, some write lyrics, few write both.

  • @MrRicardowill
    @MrRicardowill 9 лет назад

    Thanks for making these videos available. I'm enjoying them.

  • @cheery-hex
    @cheery-hex 12 лет назад

    I love larry dvoskin's voice. It's not particularly great but it's soothing to me!

  • @dwiele
    @dwiele 12 лет назад

    they teach this class at a community college? why did i ever go to university?

  • @WolfeyWolf
    @WolfeyWolf 11 лет назад

    Hi Larry! i've watched your series on songwriting a few times now as well as others on youtube and you've helped me in so many ways that i just want to say a big thanks and i hope your writing is going good too!
    i know it's a long shot but i'd like to send you something and just hear feedback

  • @javoutube1
    @javoutube1 11 лет назад

    thank you so much for posting this video, It's actually making a huge impact on my life , my perception about music, It feels like some of the things that are being said are things I always thought about but never knew how to contextualize. thanks.

  • @mussman717word
    @mussman717word 12 лет назад +1

    34:40 -- That guy's fucking answer. What was happening in the late '80s? "A lot of very interesting pop music." Haha!!! Yeah, whatever.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 5 лет назад

    im definitely in the wrong classroom !!

  • @cunchpunt
    @cunchpunt 12 лет назад

    This is great, it's ALMOST as good as being in the class... except I can get drunk while I participate!

  • @ДенисСкворцов-э3г
    @ДенисСкворцов-э3г 8 лет назад

    plenty of insights. thank you, Larry

  • @damianketchersid
    @damianketchersid 10 лет назад

    the last parts were awesome very intuitive thank you

  • @AliasEight
    @AliasEight 11 лет назад

    American Graffiti was actually set in 1962 "where were you in '62?"- yes?

  • @nattapon05
    @nattapon05 8 лет назад

    wow its worth the times watch this video clip

  • @cobaltjones
    @cobaltjones 10 лет назад +2

    A hit isn't necessarily a good song. The piano is the ultimate litmus test; if it is compelling on the piano, it probably has substance, because the piano doesn't deceive with texture. The guitar produces very naive results usually; people are fooled by voicing.

    • @jayceejackson3584
      @jayceejackson3584 10 лет назад +2

      You ever tried playing some James Brown on the piano?

    • @cobaltjones
      @cobaltjones 10 лет назад

      if you could play all the parts in time it would still be good.

  • @Scy
    @Scy 12 лет назад

    Lots of drummers in the class I suppose.

  • @rayshontv7451
    @rayshontv7451 10 лет назад

    wow. that song flip was night and day.

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 4 года назад

    five minutes 💗 !!! ~zsv sincere!

  • @lukisanmoses
    @lukisanmoses 11 лет назад

    Amazing posting, very helpful. Thanks!

  • @MrJacksonvill
    @MrJacksonvill 11 лет назад

    thats Beautiful..Its American! Its New York!

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 11 лет назад

    He wrote it for the girl he was stalking lol

  • @th3giv3r
    @th3giv3r 11 лет назад

    Is this Peter Schiff's doppelganger?

  • @JasonTrini1
    @JasonTrini1 12 лет назад

    I was in the 4th grade too...lol

  • @rapturegeniuz2559
    @rapturegeniuz2559 8 лет назад

    that's nice.... thanks

  • @Batiste369
    @Batiste369 12 лет назад

    I know! I wish I was in this class

  • @fartbarfunkel
    @fartbarfunkel 12 лет назад

    4:33 hhahahah

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 11 лет назад

    It's called plagiarism

  • @DawzeyJ
    @DawzeyJ 12 лет назад

    i was in 3rd grade haha

  • @sincerecartertm
    @sincerecartertm 5 лет назад

    A tapeworm!

  • @Pravda_Z
    @Pravda_Z 11 лет назад

    Regarding the students who previewed their efforts for class critique: Well, Dave Van Ronk once told me that I should be writing one song a day. He said that if I did that, at the end of the year, I might have one damn good song. In other words, most of the things we write, or sculpt, or paint, merit the trash can. Keep writing and eventually you just may come up with the next "Yesterday". Just sayin'.

  • @strugglebuggietv
    @strugglebuggietv 11 лет назад

    hick...

  • @Scrimjer
    @Scrimjer 10 лет назад

    Why does everyone who talks on these have accent?

    • @Ayo.Ajisafe
      @Ayo.Ajisafe 9 лет назад

      +Cap't Jack because everyone everywhere has an accent...and i guess its in new york so there are many different accents.

  • @hcmusic101
    @hcmusic101 11 лет назад

    This is a great class, but Larry calling people "hicks"? Larry, are you aware that "hick" music outsells almost ALL other genres of music? They don't need your "yo yo yo"..

  • @ajlambe1340
    @ajlambe1340 Год назад

    Why would the sad sad top ten music of the iTunes echelon that gets millions of dollars in promotion, etc. be the place one would go to as the rubric or example. It’s machined to death and lyrically vapid and chipmunk voiced syrup, and so formulaic it’s dead or empty. Occasionally a good song gets on it. Never a song that will become a classic. Listen to Elliot Smith, Neil Young, Joni and learn all their songs. Go from there.

  • @pantera6
    @pantera6 12 лет назад

    that is a horid song

  • @Pravda_Z
    @Pravda_Z 11 лет назад +2

    Loved some of the tips in these first two videos and anecdotes about the current "clear channel" reality of a failed formulaic commercial music business.On the other hand, the evolution of a schlocky formula pop song (at the end of the video) that was picked up for a mediocre zero risk movie, was very disheartening. The advice that the song you want to pitch to record executives needs to sound similar to the no-risk, non-creative crap that now dominates the airwaves...wow. Sad.