Whatever Brand you choose, just enjoy it , also don't make purchases just because someone say so, i am on team Red but if i would get a Nvidia card my sentiment would be the same , whatever card you get as long it runs properly and do stuff you want it doesn't matter that much , in the end as long you happy with your purchase is all that matters.
My opinion on this is that Nvidia offers more features for the enthusiast gamer and that AMD generally offers better price to performance for the practical gamer.
Not sure I 100% agree with this. All the features Nvidia offer, are to reduce image quality or increase latency, for more FPS. Not sure those are enthusiast features.
@@TheRealMafoothe features you mentioned would only be really utilized on performance heavy gaming; 4K and high frames with ray tracing. Which I think most people correlate with enthusiasts. Something most gamers don’t need, who are from the low to mid budget ranges. I acknowledge that NVIDIA excels in the high end budget gpu niche, although personally I believe AMD dominates in the budget to mid range graphics cards
Not entirely so... How is DLSS, Reflex, Hairworks, PhysX, etc. not for practical or all gamers. Some basic features and DLSS is probably better for more budget gamers. Practical for those that need more fps in online games. CUDA, Ray Tracing, etc. is for enthusiasts. Nvidia gives the best of both worlds, it just costs extra. AMD offers similar, not as good features but are a much better value if all you do is gaming.
@@CoulsonZZZAmd fanboy needs to calm down he's just saying nvidia has a lot more features outside gaming when amd is mostly targeted towards ptp gaming
I'm actually building a new PC this week (Ryzen 7800X3D), and I've been finding your vids top notch for information, especially since these last couple months have been crazy for price cuts. However I might stick with my old GPU for 2 weeks or so because Prime Day is just around the corner, and I might get a bargain.
@@sol-hb8zg i dunno, with cars you can get it checked out and if you know what you're looking for then you can get a good purchase. Generally can't test a GPU before buying or watch a stress test for a few hours etc. I feel like used PC parts especially is a bit of a minefield
My conclusion would be: For competitive gamers, AMD takes the cake in price to performance no questions asked. Competitive players don't need any of Nvidia's features like Ray Tracing or Frame Gen. For professional rendering and similar stuff, Nvidia still has way better support for most of the applications. Cuda support is coming to AMD's existing cards in the shape of rocM, but we are not sure if that'll be soon or in 2 years. In AAA titles it's more of a mixed bag. If you want to future proof for the upcoming titles, you need the VRAM of AMD cards for the improved effects and textures of the new gen games, while still being able to run slightly lighter Ray Tracing. If you're planning on utilizing all the latest and heaviest RT bells and whistles, you need Nvidia due to their better RT capabilities and Frame Gen to support it. RTX 4080 & 4090 can do all of the above though, but they're not worth it compared to the RTX 4070 and the RX 7900 series, unless you simply have too much money to spend.
@@Youngie761 I had a similar experience. Nvidia's recent driver caused a TON of multi monitor setups to flicker including mine. Driver issues should not be a buying consideration anymore, both brands will have them, we have to get over it.
I still have a 2070 Super and i think i may go AMD for my next card. I like the fact that AMD cards are performing really well at cheaper prices compared to Nvidia.
@@frwhof6723 I think this is true, ever since i have switch to nvidia 1060 and 1070ti from r9 280x. Ive never felt the snappy feel when playing FPS game I felt from amd card. It feels its really off or latecy input issues.
Can’t go wrong with Nvidia or AMD. It’s just depends if you want RT or not. But for me going with a 5800x3d and a 6950xt I saved a good chunk of change. And these days that’s most important.
The pc I'm watching this on has a gtx 970. I bought a 7900 XT and am going to build a PC this week for myself. I think the performace increase will be something like 800% or more and that's on 1440p. I'm now using 1080p. This pc has served me for 10 years no problem and I'm giving it away to someone I know who is crazy about minecraft. This pc runs even heavily modded minecraft well till this day.
Brother, I'm getting my 4060 ti next week from my old ass 970! This card seriously is amazing for how long it's lasted, it can play games pretty well too, at least on 1080p/1440p, but it's definitely showing its age now. I hope you enjoy the new card though! It should be an amazing upgrade.
@@EpicgamerRehanPOG2000 it's amazing to make such a big upgrade at once. But if you wanna laugh I got this pc and 1 month later I didn't have any time to play videogames anymore(in a good way) 😅
I'm currently on team Red with a RX 6800. But my gpu progress has been interesting. gtx 650ti, GTX 970, R9 Fury X, Vega 64, GTX 1080, RTX 2080 and now RX 6800. I'm use to the pros and cons of both teams and will use either one. Both are good. (I also always buy used and just get the best deals I can)
@@MrNova-mf9qc I tend to use Ebay and have had good luck. Had one card that was a scam out of all of the years and ebay reimbursed everything. However, there is no factory warranty when buying used which can be risky. I also remove the coolers and clean everything thoroughly and re-apply thermal paste. So it's up to you if it's worth it or not. Some people say it's not and other are fine with it.
@@julian7531 there performance is very similar except the 3070ti is better in ray tracing. Both are good options. You can't go wrong with either. Also, keep in mind Evga doesn't make gpus anymore.
In that case, since there is no front intake, you are better off turning your CPU cooler around and using the back fan as intake. It will use fresh air from the back of the case as intake to feed directly the CPU. If you do that, offset the top exhaust fanst too. Put them as much on the front as you can, to avoit the most back fan sucking the fresh air in between the back and the CPU cooler. My CPU temps are way better now. Previously it was sucking the 400w GPU hot air and it was horrible.
Been with Nvidia for every computer I've built since getting into the hobby around 7 years ago. Recently upgraded and went with AMD for the first time due to the significantly higher vram in my price range. The performance is great but the card runs significantly hotter and louder than what I am used to with Nvidia. Not like danger level hot, but still worth noting. Can't go wrong with 20gb of VRAM for under $800 right now.
Undervolt. Its very easy with AMD graphics software. Mine is overclocked and undervolted. It runs faster than stock and draws less power and never goes above 65° even at full load.
@@sleepingaides No, I play at 1080p monitor. Got a cheap rx 6600xt. Took me 2 days of testing to find the sweet spot. Memory runs +240mhz from stock with fast timings. Max frequency at a little over +100 from the advertised boost clock. And undervolted at 1125. Adjusted fan curve to run 70% when it reaches 60°. And it only goes above 60 very rarely and maxes at 65. I could probably squeeze out a little more overclock but i prefer undervolted and run cool with less power draw.
Yea you gotta undetvolt them, and it’s super easy there are plenty of guides in how to do it. You’ll get the same or better performance for way less heat, fan speed and power.
@@skyskitchen7872 yeha there are abusing the fact that no other gpu brand/technology can compete with them sadly , especially when amd gpus are so bad when it comes to streaming :/
If Nvidia would’ve released their mid tier cards (4070 & 4070ti) with 16gb if vram, I would’ve bought one a long time ago. There’s really no excuse to why they couldn’t release it with 16gb of vram. They’re about to release a 4060ti with 16gb, which doesn’t really make sense considering most people would buy the 4060ti for 1080p gaming; should’ve gave the 4070s 16gb and the 4060s 10-12gb. Honestly might wait to see how the 50s generation will look or wait to see if they’re gonna release a 40s super series sometime next year
@@xxNATHANUKxx same, thought about switching to AMD for the vram and raw performance. But the extra features that Nvidia cards have just appeal to me. Really hoping Nvidia comes out with a super series but it doesn’t look to promising, they might’ve cancelled that plan sadly.
@@mic_xyooj A super series was rumoured but I think gpu sales are so low and AMD are that far behind Nvidia there’s no point for them to do it. It’s rumoured they are trying to bring forward the 50 series to late next year. Im just gong to hang on with my 3060ti for now
@@Chaosweaver-1 The 1080ti is a beast. if you can, hold until the Blackwell cards come out or until prices drop. Other than that, the RTX4000 cards are amazing excluding the 4060's (theyre a scam lol). The only problem they have is the price and VRAM. It's highway robbery to charge 1200$ on a 4080 and it's not even the flagship card plus it "only" comes with 16GB VRAM. Personally, I think the VRAM issues are blown out of proportion. Everyone's letting a few badly optimized ports (TLOU, HL, RE4E) define the narrative around VRAM. VRAM allocation =/= usage. Though if you want the card to last a bit, I'd say 16GB for 1440p would be enough for the next few years. Also take into account consoles. They're the systems that the game devs optimize for. They have 16GB of shared system RAM and I'd assume 12GB of that is VRAM. That's a baseline for future games, but it's a crystal ball we're looking at here when it comes to future game's VRAM usage. It's basically weighing price to performance, but it's a battle of lesser evils here as they all have really bad value, even the RX7900 AMD cards. If you don't care about money, the 4090 is on a performance league of it's own. There has never been a bigger gap between the flagship card and the 2nd card on the line until the RTX4080 vs RTX4090 became a thing. It makes me think that the 4080 is only there to upsell for the 4090.
I am building a 7800x3d system also and just got a killer deal during the weird $100 off day for a 7900xtx (battle between NewEgg and Amazon) and the new card should arrive today. Every part I purchased for my new build was a deal on sale (even Win11Pro for $23 from TechSpot yesterday), my overall build savings is $621 including two free games. Additionally, I cannot stand the lack of ethics or customer orientation by nVidia (though I admit the MSI 4090 AIO was tempting). I also want to see if the 7990xtx with an AIO materializes this year with 30% better performance than the 7900xtx - fun times in gaming!
Both are good. As a consumer, it excites me whenever i am seeing a good competition. You wil never go wrong either way. It's up to you if wanna choose: AMD - Raw performance and for longevity since higher vrams. Nvidia - Power efficiency and software gimmicks.
AMD is still very good in second place. It's not like you're going to look at the image you get or the average gameplay experience and walk away thinking it was awful. Yes, Nvidia is currently the best, but AMD is almost as good for less money.
So basically treat 12GB cards as the new entry level cards, and the 16GB cards are mid-range now. At least that is how it looks. 8GB are now the super entry level cards for low end pre-made machines aimed at people that do not know any better. Though, I am sure 8GB are just fine for people playing older games and not worried about newer games.
I've owned (recently) an NVIDIA 3080ti and an OC 4080. Few days ago, I purchased an AMD Power Color HELLHOUND 7900XTX (24gb) for just over $900 US. In the few days I've played it, it SEEMS to run smoother, cooler, (yes, the fan curve is loud, it doesn't bother me at all), no stuttering during gameplay, and no strange artifacts. It's just about right on par as far as frames go with the 4080. NOT worth spending 2-500 more on an OC 4080 at this point. Team RED for now and possibly long term.
There's no definitive answer to that question. Both AMD and NVIDIA GPU's have their pros and cons. It depends on your needs and not everyone is going to have the same needs.
I just got a video card, and I had the option of the 7900xt or the 4070ti for the same price. For me, I went with the 7900xt. The reason, is VRam. It the moment, I have a 3070, and I am playing Diablo 4. I have to get the settings all the way down, to where I am only using about 70% of the performance of the card, to get to to not be a studdering mess due to VRam limits. A 3060 with 12 gig of VRAM, out performes the 3070 8Gig, in that game. So to me, the 5% boots in FPS of the 4070TI, does not make up for the massive lack of VRam
I just got a few Months ago, an XFX 6800XT for $530, back before the Price Drops happened.... Came with Last of Us Part I, so TECHNICALLY, it was Under $500 in the end... This is Backed by the 5800X3D I got about a Month before that for Under $300 and picked up and X570S MSI Board for that... Motherboard was $160 Used on Amazon, X3D was new from Microcenter here in the US, and the XFX is also Brand New....
I'm in the midst of building a brand new pc and I personally am going with nvidia just because they offer better ray tracing. I personally want my games to look the best they can and I'm also shopping at a higher pricepoint, but I'd argue that if you're not a ray tracing junkie and you're shopping at the mid tier then go AMD because they do offer better value for money
I recently upgraded my RTX 2080 Ti with a RTX 4090 liquid cooled and I have zero regrets...the jump in performance is amazing. I didn't consider AMD when I was getting ready to upgrade due to my monitor being G-sync Ultimate certified. That's not to say I have anything against Radeon cards...I just always go for the fastest card available when I upgrade. The last Radeon I owned was an ATI. I do miss the days when the Radeon cards and Geforce cards would keep on upping each other every other generation.
Simple fact 8GB VRAM is NOT enough for 2023 even just 1080p gaming! Do what Linus Tech tips advises, if you can't afford a RTX4070Ti and are thinking of getting an RTX4060: Spend just a little extra and get a second hand RTX3080 10/12GB for $350 which MASSIVELY outperforms even the RTX4060Ti, and which is STILL UNDER WARRANTY! They came with a 3 year warranty, so make sure you get the original receipt and as the RTX3080s haven't even been out 3 years you are safe! Don't spend over $200 on ANY GPU (regardless of other specs) which only has 8GB VRAM because they are only 720p graphics cards, which is MASSIVELY outdated, as they can't play even all current games as 1080p ultra without glitching!
FSR, FG, DLSS should never be a reason for whay we should buy a graphics card neither should these greedy corporates make it as if its an "amazing, cutting edge" technology that we should base our opinion when it comes to choose which kind or version of cards we should buy, we need to make sure that these companies understand that this technology should be only consider for ppl with low-end graphics card whom cant efford a high-end one, we must make them focus on giving us cards with upgraded raw power and implement DLSS, FSR and Frame-gen just as a gimmicky feature thats it
Nvidia hands for two smaller reason a really big one. - Better Ray Tracing Performance which will matter more and more as games use it more frequently - DLSS is better then FSR AND is the best anti-aliasing option available, or rather DLAA is. Implementation of both DLSS and FSR is becoming the norm in a lot of games. Finally Frame Generation: Doubling your FPS in games is a major affair, and with upscaling becoming rather common in games it is very relevant these days. I'd use it in every game that I'd play unless, sure the input lag can be an issue, but it's only really relevant if you're really pushing for it as a competitive gamer. Though I have to wonder how someone's performance would compare between 60 FPS in CoD with Frame Gen OFF vs 120 FPS with it on but with 20 MS added.
I got myself ROG Strix 4070 Ti , Absolutely Love It. N By The way , That Prime PC is looking Nice ! Can you do a Video on TUF GT502 White Version , you build pretty sweet White PCs.
can you make a video mentioning which AMD vs NVIDIA cards are equivalent in their performance? I wanted to know what are the best GPUs under budget. I don't have any interest in playing Esports. I will do casual gaming.
You Completely Ignore the Biggest Issue. Which is the Price for for Performance. Its nice that NVIDIA gives me extra Features to make Fake Frames to make the game look Smoother. But if AMD for the same Price Simply Offers more Raw Performance and thus Simply offers more Real Frames. Then Sorry. But NVIDIA can stick its DLSS where the Sun doesnt Shine. I mean no Offense. But Seriously. Why should anyone get a 4080 for 200 Dollars more than a RX7900XTX when it can only give You higher Performance by Inserting Fake Frames in between ??? You are basicly Just Paying for Fake Frames which on top only actually give You a Good Experience if Your Framerate is already Higher than Necessary anyways. Which is the biggest Joke here. Because if this would allow Lower Cards to Increase the FPS to a Playable Rate on Demanding Games I might even consider this a Plus. Because having a Game Run on 40 FPS instead of 20 FPS is much more Playable even if there is a bit more Latency in it. But thats not even the Case. If You dont get 60 FPS already then using this works Terrible. And while that Competetive Gamer would rather like 120 FPS than 80 FPS but if his Latency Suffers as a Result thats not gonna Fly. And if a Cheaper Card can give him 100 FPS but without increasing Latency then take a Guess which one he Takes. You also use DLSS on all the Benchmarks which basicly means that all of that Data assumes the Gamer is Willing to take the Latency Issue. Yeah not happening. So Yeah no Thanks. AMD Wins Hands Down for Literally everything here.
Personally I've always considered dlss and fsr and such tech as cheating us out of pure performance uplifts from generation to generation. RT has felt like a gimmick to me as well, most games i either don't notice it, or i have to just carefully look at a scene and turn it on and off to actually notice much of a difference. While in the future its likely to improve, especially with path tracing...but that's years away and it really comes down to how its implemented by game designers. i just upgraded my 3070ti to a 7900xtx. love the xtx and considering the 4080 was $400(cad) more for basically the same raster performance it was a no brainer for me.. I'm hoping Intels battle mage will give both AMD and Nvidia a reason to sweat for the next gen of cards, but we'll have to wait and see.
Also i like how integrated the amd software is and easy to use. I can limit fps, tweak color profile, overclock, monitor temps etc all from one app and its easy to find ur way around. Nvidia can do mostly the same but their app is long outdated and also they need more than one for certain things. If they fix that nvidia could very well be my next card
As someone who likes to look at all the little details and has a card that can run it, i do enjoy RT in a lot of games. I just can't justify spending over 1000$+ and not care about the RT performance. It starts to really matter at this price point.
Here’s how i would personally decide on what brand gpu, but first note that amd cards have better performance for price points and better vram for its cards than nvidia, but if u a single player gamer and want immersion go nvidia, if u play multiplayer only and want the best performance for ur buck then go amd. If u do both kinds of gaming then i’d go amd due to their better performance at price point than nvidia cards and u can still do ray tracing for that immersion, just don’t expect the performance to be as good as nvidia cards with ray tracing. Although I hear the 7900 xtx has some pretty good ray tracing for an amd card but the thats the only one i heard from amd with decent ray tracing. Just my personal opinion
I'm planning to build my first PC and I was planning to buy an RX 6800XT for my gpu, however here in the Philippines here I couldn't find any. Should I just get a RTX 4070? or wait for RX 7750XT or RX 7800XT?
Was also wondering this. Nearly all other benchmarks will show/state 7900XTX above a 4080 or equal. Also since when is a 7900XT only as good as a 3080? That seemed the most off for me considering the 6950XT leaves 3080 way behind, and thats slower/equal.
Actually from look of it, it seems he's only used RT-Based benchmarks alongside DLSS/FSR.. Why? Isn't this video meant' to entail performance across the board?
Ive had Nvidia ever since i started on PC, last year i got a 6800xt, i dont use ray tracing (mainly cause i cant) but performance wise my card has been brilliant, never had a problem with maxing out settings, with the prices Nvidia are asking for in Australia at this stage i will not get another Nvidia Card
My 2070 still seems to work for me. I think I've had decent value from it although at the time it seemed overpriced. But then I'm not chasing high refresh rate and ultra details anymore. I am very tempted to upgrade just because. Some games like Forza always seem to do well with amd cards so i suppose the games you play matter. It's probably between the 4070 and 6950 but I'm still researching.
@@sgarridojr yeah I think they still do ok. I'm just thinking of treating myself and my second pc only has a 1060 , so be nice to put the 2070 in that.
Toms hardware and pcgamer give the nod to the 4070. I'm going to have to look at benchmarks for the games I play. They seem a similar price. Also maybe the size of the card will come into play and what brands are available for both. I do like the MSI Nvidia cards.
im thinking of going with either a 6950 xt or 7900 xtx i do not care about AAA games at all love seeing these price drops though im waiting longer my 1080 ti is still chugging along
For pure rasterization gaming performance? AMD offers better value. For RT gaming performance, upscailing performance, video editing, 3D modeling, AI generation, and everything else nVidia by a WIDE mile.
Just finished buying and researching all the parts for my newest build and i think most people would agree they dont hold alot of value in ray tracing. Amd’s price to performance usually beats it ls team green counter part and as someone who doesnt really care for ray tracing i went for a 7900xt over a 4070ti/4080 for similar performance i am saving more money as I probably wont ever use ray tracing BUT even if i did want to the card is still capable of providing a very playable experience. I think amd is overall better rn compared to nvidia
Hey PC Centric, you remind me of Milo from Atlantis The Lost Empire!.. in a good way :D Everyone seems to be creating content in some capacity these days.. Choosing a card that provides the most flexibility and support for creative applications would be ideal!
For months I still can't decide wich one is better. I own both a RT4090 and a RX7900XTX and I spend my time switching them in my PC (probably until I break something) because I like them both. I love AMD adrenaline interface but the GPU is struggling with heavy rendering apps and games, RTX perfs are monstrous, but I hate the control panel and the drivers seem to lower in quality.
For budget gpus, amd is better. For high end, both are bad value rn. Nvidia has more performance on the very high end but is also VERY expensive which means very bad value
Since its my first pc and note that i have not even tried gaming ever in my life(except for that one match of valorant in my friends house) i want to use ray tracing and at the same time i want the higher vram of amd, currently trying to make a decision between 7900xt and 4070 Ti and in my country 4070 Ti is cheaper and also fits in my budget so idk i might go for that, and also the cpu id i5-13400f
So I just bought the Zotac 4070 TI Trinity OC DLSS 3 12GB for $729 on new egg during cyber Monday. I am nervous now realizing that 12 GB of vramm may not save me a few years down the road and I wonder about resale value etc. I've always wanted to check out Nvidia.
Don’t get that predator Orion he plugged in at the beginning. Saw a video and the fan noise on that pc makes it sound like a vacuum cleaner/ jet engine
I had a 1080ti for 6 years, it was SOLID! Unfortunately very dated today, even the RX7600 almost competes against it for FPS. Now I have a Nitro+ RX7900XTX and have been loving it, I want raw power out of my GPU's, not AI, not frame gen.... I'm surprised that AMD have been allowing Nvidia such an easy lead when it comes to Ray tracing though
@sagnikghosh5386 AI only makes sense for games that are so thirsty that's its needed. Which for now at least is only a few. VR would utilise AI tech very well
Im thinking about stopping with Nvidia because of how hard they push Ray tracing, worst garbage added since their attempt with PhysX which was just another variant of it.
Buying Nvidia cards is a rich man's game. Cause they are more expensive in the sense that you will have to upgrade them more often than AMD cards cause they have alot of vram limitations. So when counting the cost to own you should look into the future and see that is why they are longterm more expensive. Even using less watts wont counter balance the fact that you still need to buy a whole new gpu more often
1080P ultra settings with any enhancement (DLSS or Raytracing) can and does use more than 8GB of vram during use. This leads to textures not loading and stuttering. The 4060TI is a shining example of this and is not capable of running 1080P completely. It will never be able to run 1440P at ultra for the same reasons in most new games. Realistically Nvidia actually used to promote that xx60-TI was 1080P, xx70-TI was 1440P, xx80-TI was 4K, and xx90-TI or Titan was Enthusiast top of the line. Now though xx60-TI is entry/Medium 1080P, xx70-TI is 1080P/medium 1440P, xx80-TI is 1440P/Medium 4K, and xx90-TI is 4K. Nvidia chose to take this approach to the 4000 series and it is on them for making that decision. It has been known for over a year before the release of the 4000 series that Vram was going to be an issue with advancing textures, effects, and enhancements. Saddest thing is it is Nvidia pushing the enhancements that kill their own cards rastorization performance because of the vram limitations.
I just want a GPU that is reliable and won’t break on me but also does preform highly well like the 6700xt. Mine broke just randomly and I don’t know why
My hot-take (without watching the video) is that AMD dont really make sense, even if it's just for gaming. For content creation and gaming Nvidia win hands down. All the game devs I know wouldnt touch an AMD card for work - the optimisation for most professional software (UE4, Substance Painter, Blender, Marvelous designer, not to mention AI) is patchy at best. If it's its just for gaming, and im thinking AAA games here (not online competitive ones), then the PS5 breezer over AMD for price/performance. You can find a used optical PS5 now for like $200...it's an absolute no brainer over an entry level AMD system. This AMD GPU popularity is a totally false economy, and I suspect is just for people with more money than sense, or perhaps for competitive gamers (but if you're actualy a succesful competitive gamer, then you wouldnt care about price/performrance and just get the best card out ... which is Nvidia). The only products AMD are good are their CPU line. Absolutely incredible what theyve done in that space, but their GPU's just dont make any sense.
the 4070 and the rx 7800 xt are both at similar prices and are competitors accept that the rx 7800 xt has 16gb of vram compared to the 12 on the 4070 so it is a big tradeoff between companies
I will say, my AMD card is fine but it does start having issues when it comes to the strange monitor resolutions like 2560x1080. It will try to manipulate games to match the monitors resolution and will completely softlock the pc (atleast this is a problem I have had)
I have a 3080 for 4k. I am very happy with it, but the v-ram just lacks. Games are starting to have a problem with it, so I just bought a 7900xtx for future proofing. I do not care for rtx and I do not mind fsr. I think i'll be quite aight
I've always had invidia cards I like both cards I built my new pc the beginning of this year I went with amd 7900xt with an Intel cpu had to go with more vram for the price and I have to say I'm really enjoying it
I'm building a pc in a couple of days with intel i5 12400f processor and i do works like video editing and gaming. I'm thinking to take RTX 4060 ti or RX 6750XT so please recommend me the better one for my pc build.
As an amd gpu user .. I will stop buying any amd gpu until they don’t resolve this drivers gpu .. they driving me crazy .. black screen .. no signal .. fps drop from 100+ to 23 in esports .. I’m done with them ..waiting for my 12 gb 3060 to come ..
@@Muldeeer is too bad I can’t add pictures with frames drop in comment sections .. dota 2 cs go Warzone .. rolled back drivers .. ddu fresh windows install .. nothing .. screens turns black .. no signal the only way to resolve this is to restart pc and if it works you are good if it doesn’t .. need to reinstall the driver again
Had a 1660 Super, then switched to RX 6600. Changed that AMD Gpu after 3 weeks with a 3060 Gaming X Trio, like nvidia more. Imo its personal preference
I have spent the last 2 weeks looking at which CPU, GPU, CASE, CPU COOLER, SSD, RAM, POWER SUPPLY, and to be honest it is driving me round the bend. I liked the white gaming pc you built but can’t get the GPU. I have seen so many things but then you go to choose a gaming monitor and you have gone over £2k which at the moment I can’t justify spending. E even after watching this I am still non the wiser to which GPU to get. I thought about buying a bit at a time and then building it. But I will be in a care home by that time. It’s either a gaming PC, new laptop (current cpu is a AMD A9-9420, fast it is not 😡) or a PS5. I am going to take some pain meds, got a bloody headache now. 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫🥴
Having a hard time choosing between 6700 XT and 3060ti for 1440p don’t care about raytracing and features , the extra vram amd cards give seem tempting and the only drawback I can think on is higher power use and maybe temps
Im thinking RX 7800 XT with Ryzen 5 7600X or Ryzen 7 7800X3D... it seems like the best value at the moment for 1440p and the 16gb will be welcomed in the future..
So I’ve recently purchased a custom built pc with an i7- 13700F processor, 32BG of ram, with a 4070ti graphics card. Would you suggest this should handle any game at max settings on 1440p?
@@CatusMilkiusThe processor is more than enough, you could save some money on your processor and get the i5 13600k or r5 7600 if the goal is just for gaming. Those alternatives perform just as well for gaming but are cheaper
I'm uncertain about the sources of your benchmarks, but from the comparisons I’ve observed between the 7900 XTX and the 4080 on Google, the former seems to outperform the latter in nearly every game. I've reviewed the first four or five benchmarks, and this has been consistent. It raises concerns about potential biases towards Nvidia, and I worry that this might lead to the dissemination of inaccurate information. Please ensure that you're referencing reliable and unbiased sources. :)
Whatever Brand you choose, just enjoy it , also don't make purchases just because someone say so, i am on team Red but if i would get a Nvidia card my sentiment would be the same , whatever card you get as long it runs properly and do stuff you want it doesn't matter that much , in the end as long you happy with your purchase is all that matters.
^^ this. the amd and nvidia fanboys are cringe. just buy what works or what you want
Chad comment. Deserves a pin
@@darbstre2900agreed
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@@TDremNo....that's rubbish...buy AMD it's better than Radeon
My opinion on this is that Nvidia offers more features for the enthusiast gamer and that AMD generally offers better price to performance for the practical gamer.
Not sure I 100% agree with this. All the features Nvidia offer, are to reduce image quality or increase latency, for more FPS. Not sure those are enthusiast features.
@@TheRealMafoothe features you mentioned would only be really utilized on performance heavy gaming; 4K and high frames with ray tracing. Which I think most people correlate with enthusiasts. Something most gamers don’t need, who are from the low to mid budget ranges. I acknowledge that NVIDIA excels in the high end budget gpu niche, although personally I believe AMD dominates in the budget to mid range graphics cards
Not entirely so...
How is DLSS, Reflex, Hairworks, PhysX, etc. not for practical or all gamers. Some basic features and DLSS is probably better for more budget gamers. Practical for those that need more fps in online games.
CUDA, Ray Tracing, etc. is for enthusiasts. Nvidia gives the best of both worlds, it just costs extra. AMD offers similar, not as good features but are a much better value if all you do is gaming.
Shut up lil bro
@@CoulsonZZZAmd fanboy needs to calm down he's just saying nvidia has a lot more features outside gaming when amd is mostly targeted towards ptp gaming
I went from a 2070 SUPER to a 6800XT and must say I'm really happy. Destroys everything at 1440p and runs really cool and quiet in my H7 Flow.
will a 6800xt be enough to play anything at 4k 60fps (without ray tracing)? im a console player looking to switch to pc gaming
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@@randyrrs7028 It could run in 4k but pretty sure the card would struggle
I'm actually building a new PC this week (Ryzen 7800X3D), and I've been finding your vids top notch for information, especially since these last couple months have been crazy for price cuts. However I might stick with my old GPU for 2 weeks or so because Prime Day is just around the corner, and I might get a bargain.
Smart man
I would also check out used to get a good deal. Around mid last year, I got a sapphire 6900xt for a bit under £700
@@sol-hb8zgI feel it’s always a big risk buying a used graphics card. Could work fine for a week then it breaks and you’re fucked
@@RiperSnifle honestly that’s like with any used things from cars and stuff. It’s one of those I guess. Depends on the seller, condition etc
@@sol-hb8zg i dunno, with cars you can get it checked out and if you know what you're looking for then you can get a good purchase. Generally can't test a GPU before buying or watch a stress test for a few hours etc. I feel like used PC parts especially is a bit of a minefield
Pro tip: go a little above your budget, you'll never regret it 👍
If you go a little bit above on each component you end up with a build double your budget.
expert pro tip: go double your budget, you will never regret it👍
Here's another for you guys: make a bit more money than you do currently, you'll never regret it. Thank me later.
Pro tip: don't even look at the price, swipe the card and immediately file for bankruptcy 😂
He aint wrong tho, yall doing OP dirty here😂
My conclusion would be:
For competitive gamers, AMD takes the cake in price to performance no questions asked. Competitive players don't need any of Nvidia's features like Ray Tracing or Frame Gen.
For professional rendering and similar stuff, Nvidia still has way better support for most of the applications. Cuda support is coming to AMD's existing cards in the shape of rocM, but we are not sure if that'll be soon or in 2 years.
In AAA titles it's more of a mixed bag.
If you want to future proof for the upcoming titles, you need the VRAM of AMD cards for the improved effects and textures of the new gen games, while still being able to run slightly lighter Ray Tracing.
If you're planning on utilizing all the latest and heaviest RT bells and whistles, you need Nvidia due to their better RT capabilities and Frame Gen to support it.
RTX 4080 & 4090 can do all of the above though, but they're not worth it compared to the RTX 4070 and the RX 7900 series, unless you simply have too much money to spend.
I want to add: Radeons handle multi monitor setups much better. I discovered this myself after switching. Had been using Nvidia's for years.
@@Youngie761 I had a similar experience. Nvidia's recent driver caused a TON of multi monitor setups to flicker including mine. Driver issues should not be a buying consideration anymore, both brands will have them, we have to get over it.
@@atirta777yeah Right now my 3060ti does that all the time to my monitor when I'm not gaming, so annoying
If I was to chose between a 3060 ti and rx 6700 xt which would you say (I want to try video editing) but also play games such as rdr2,rust etc
@@0ne0ne.6700xt. It will perform better and perfectly do video editing. It's just heavy professional production work that favours nvidia more often
I still have a 2070 Super and i think i may go AMD for my next card. I like the fact that AMD cards are performing really well at cheaper prices compared to Nvidia.
Dude this has been AMDs strategy for a long time. You won't regret going with AMD and you'll have enough coin left over to pay your hooker!
the thing is some games stutter asf until a new driver with fix comes
@@qkni478stop lying I have a rx6800xt n I haven’t had a single stutter ever since I got the card 🥱
@@frwhof6723 I think this is true, ever since i have switch to nvidia 1060 and 1070ti from r9 280x. Ive never felt the snappy feel when playing FPS game I felt from amd card. It feels its really off or latecy input issues.
@@qkni478then at that point he can do his research and get a card thats been out on the market for a while
Can’t go wrong with Nvidia or AMD. It’s just depends if you want RT or not. But for me going with a 5800x3d and a 6950xt I saved a good chunk of change. And these days that’s most important.
Cool did you compare that cpu to the 5800x as its faster and built for gaming. I'm currently weighing up the 5800x with a 4080
I have this build
What is RT
@@invader.indigo8435raytracing
@@invader.indigo8435Ray Tracing
The pc I'm watching this on has a gtx 970. I bought a 7900 XT and am going to build a PC this week for myself. I think the performace increase will be something like 800% or more and that's on 1440p. I'm now using 1080p. This pc has served me for 10 years no problem and I'm giving it away to someone I know who is crazy about minecraft. This pc runs even heavily modded minecraft well till this day.
Brother, I'm getting my 4060 ti next week from my old ass 970! This card seriously is amazing for how long it's lasted, it can play games pretty well too, at least on 1080p/1440p, but it's definitely showing its age now. I hope you enjoy the new card though! It should be an amazing upgrade.
@@EpicgamerRehanPOG2000 it's amazing to make such a big upgrade at once. But if you wanna laugh I got this pc and 1 month later I didn't have any time to play videogames anymore(in a good way) 😅
I'm currently on team Red with a RX 6800. But my gpu progress has been interesting.
gtx 650ti, GTX 970, R9 Fury X, Vega 64, GTX 1080, RTX 2080 and now RX 6800. I'm use to the pros and cons of both teams and will use either one. Both are good. (I also always buy used and just get the best deals I can)
Where do you buy used? Do you think it really is better?
@@MrNova-mf9qc I tend to use Ebay and have had good luck. Had one card that was a scam out of all of the years and ebay reimbursed everything. However, there is no factory warranty when buying used which can be risky. I also remove the coolers and clean everything thoroughly and re-apply thermal paste. So it's up to you if it's worth it or not. Some people say it's not and other are fine with it.
@stephan4923 I don't really use dlss or fsr. So can't really say
Yo question I can get a evga ftw3 3070ti or a phantom gaming 6800 for the same price which would you reccomend
@@julian7531 there performance is very similar except the 3070ti is better in ray tracing. Both are good options. You can't go wrong with either. Also, keep in mind Evga doesn't make gpus anymore.
In that case, since there is no front intake, you are better off turning your CPU cooler around and using the back fan as intake. It will use fresh air from the back of the case as intake to feed directly the CPU. If you do that, offset the top exhaust fanst too. Put them as much on the front as you can, to avoit the most back fan sucking the fresh air in between the back and the CPU cooler. My CPU temps are way better now. Previously it was sucking the 400w GPU hot air and it was horrible.
From a momma of 2 semi pro gamers. THIS IS GENIUS! THANKS❤
I went from a 10700k + 2060 to a 5800x + 7800xt. I like both teams but I’ve really been enjoying my Amd build
Been with Nvidia for every computer I've built since getting into the hobby around 7 years ago. Recently upgraded and went with AMD for the first time due to the significantly higher vram in my price range. The performance is great but the card runs significantly hotter and louder than what I am used to with Nvidia. Not like danger level hot, but still worth noting. Can't go wrong with 20gb of VRAM for under $800 right now.
Undervolt. Its very easy with AMD graphics software. Mine is overclocked and undervolted. It runs faster than stock and draws less power and never goes above 65° even at full load.
@@pablopervguy4355 have seen that option in adrenaline but haven’t messed with it. Thanks for the advice. Do you run 1440? Which card?
@@sleepingaides No, I play at 1080p monitor. Got a cheap rx 6600xt. Took me 2 days of testing to find the sweet spot. Memory runs +240mhz from stock with fast timings. Max frequency at a little over +100 from the advertised boost clock. And undervolted at 1125. Adjusted fan curve to run 70% when it reaches 60°. And it only goes above 60 very rarely and maxes at 65. I could probably squeeze out a little more overclock but i prefer undervolted and run cool with less power draw.
Yea you gotta undetvolt them, and it’s super easy there are plenty of guides in how to do it. You’ll get the same or better performance for way less heat, fan speed and power.
Undervolt is kinda the trend rn, worth trying
If there is a 16 GB 4070, then it will hurt AMD a lot. Nvidia just needs a reasonably priced 16 GB 70 series card.
its all about the price...i think both are same..nvidia is a little expensive
@@skyskitchen7872 yeha there are abusing the fact that no other gpu brand/technology can compete with them sadly , especially when amd gpus are so bad when it comes to streaming :/
@@ecosti mine just fine in streaming (6700 xt), wtf are you talking about?
16 gb 4070? Ya that will be $699, so no it wouldnt hurt AMD, just look at the redundant 4060ti
@@SwingArmCity ur probably right if the price had a spike wpuldnt hurt amd
If Nvidia would’ve released their mid tier cards (4070 & 4070ti) with 16gb if vram, I would’ve bought one a long time ago. There’s really no excuse to why they couldn’t release it with 16gb of vram. They’re about to release a 4060ti with 16gb, which doesn’t really make sense considering most people would buy the 4060ti for 1080p gaming; should’ve gave the 4070s 16gb and the 4060s 10-12gb.
Honestly might wait to see how the 50s generation will look or wait to see if they’re gonna release a 40s super series sometime next year
The 4070 not having 16gb of vram is the only reason why I haven’t bought one
@@xxNATHANUKxx same, thought about switching to AMD for the vram and raw performance. But the extra features that Nvidia cards have just appeal to me. Really hoping Nvidia comes out with a super series but it doesn’t look to promising, they might’ve cancelled that plan sadly.
@@mic_xyooj A super series was rumoured but I think gpu sales are so low and AMD are that far behind Nvidia there’s no point for them to do it. It’s rumoured they are trying to bring forward the 50 series to late next year.
Im just gong to hang on with my 3060ti for now
@xxNATHANUKxx I'm still on 1080 ti but looking to build a new rig. What card would you suggest in the Nvidia line? The 4070 ti seems decent
@@Chaosweaver-1 The 1080ti is a beast. if you can, hold until the Blackwell cards come out or until prices drop. Other than that, the RTX4000 cards are amazing excluding the 4060's (theyre a scam lol). The only problem they have is the price and VRAM. It's highway robbery to charge 1200$ on a 4080 and it's not even the flagship card plus it "only" comes with 16GB VRAM.
Personally, I think the VRAM issues are blown out of proportion. Everyone's letting a few badly optimized ports (TLOU, HL, RE4E) define the narrative around VRAM. VRAM allocation =/= usage. Though if you want the card to last a bit, I'd say 16GB for 1440p would be enough for the next few years. Also take into account consoles. They're the systems that the game devs optimize for. They have 16GB of shared system RAM and I'd assume 12GB of that is VRAM. That's a baseline for future games, but it's a crystal ball we're looking at here when it comes to future game's VRAM usage.
It's basically weighing price to performance, but it's a battle of lesser evils here as they all have really bad value, even the RX7900 AMD cards. If you don't care about money, the 4090 is on a performance league of it's own. There has never been a bigger gap between the flagship card and the 2nd card on the line until the RTX4080 vs RTX4090 became a thing. It makes me think that the 4080 is only there to upsell for the 4090.
I am building a 7800x3d system also and just got a killer deal during the weird $100 off day for a 7900xtx (battle between NewEgg and Amazon) and the new card should arrive today. Every part I purchased for my new build was a deal on sale (even Win11Pro for $23 from TechSpot yesterday), my overall build savings is $621 including two free games. Additionally, I cannot stand the lack of ethics or customer orientation by nVidia (though I admit the MSI 4090 AIO was tempting). I also want to see if the 7990xtx with an AIO materializes this year with 30% better performance than the 7900xtx - fun times in gaming!
Both are good. As a consumer, it excites me whenever i am seeing a good competition.
You wil never go wrong either way. It's up to you if wanna choose:
AMD - Raw performance and for longevity since higher vrams.
Nvidia - Power efficiency and software gimmicks.
W take
I love this take. I always go with raw performances on every card I buy.
amd also has open source drivers, and run better with linux
At the midrange this is true. But this is comparing 4090 vs 7900xtx.
where is intel??
AMD is still very good in second place. It's not like you're going to look at the image you get or the average gameplay experience and walk away thinking it was awful. Yes, Nvidia is currently the best, but AMD is almost as good for less money.
Short answer:
Amd = Raw Power & Bang for Buck
Nvidia = Great Features & well uh.. uhh..
Been team Green for last 2 GPUs. Not been disappointed. Stepped up to 4K gaming with RTX 4080 and absolutely blown away 😳
My rx 6800 has been fine @ 1440p for me I don't see upgrading for a long time, and even in the future fsr if need be.
So basically treat 12GB cards as the new entry level cards, and the 16GB cards are mid-range now. At least that is how it looks. 8GB are now the super entry level cards for low end pre-made machines aimed at people that do not know any better. Though, I am sure 8GB are just fine for people playing older games and not worried about newer games.
I've owned (recently) an NVIDIA 3080ti and an OC 4080. Few days ago, I purchased an AMD Power Color HELLHOUND 7900XTX (24gb) for just over $900 US. In the few days I've played it, it SEEMS to run smoother, cooler, (yes, the fan curve is loud, it doesn't bother me at all), no stuttering during gameplay, and no strange artifacts. It's just about right on par as far as frames go with the 4080. NOT worth spending 2-500 more on an OC 4080 at this point. Team RED for now and possibly long term.
There's no definitive answer to that question. Both AMD and NVIDIA GPU's have their pros and cons. It depends on your needs and not everyone is going to have the same needs.
I just got a video card, and I had the option of the 7900xt or the 4070ti for the same price. For me, I went with the 7900xt. The reason, is VRam. It the moment, I have a 3070, and I am playing Diablo 4. I have to get the settings all the way down, to where I am only using about 70% of the performance of the card, to get to to not be a studdering mess due to VRam limits. A 3060 with 12 gig of VRAM, out performes the 3070 8Gig, in that game. So to me, the 5% boots in FPS of the 4070TI, does not make up for the massive lack of VRam
I just got a few Months ago, an XFX 6800XT for $530, back before the Price Drops happened.... Came with Last of Us Part I, so TECHNICALLY, it was Under $500 in the end... This is Backed by the 5800X3D I got about a Month before that for Under $300 and picked up and X570S MSI Board for that... Motherboard was $160 Used on Amazon, X3D was new from Microcenter here in the US, and the XFX is also Brand New....
I'm in the midst of building a brand new pc and I personally am going with nvidia just because they offer better ray tracing. I personally want my games to look the best they can and I'm also shopping at a higher pricepoint, but I'd argue that if you're not a ray tracing junkie and you're shopping at the mid tier then go AMD because they do offer better value for money
This gen is either too pricey or not not much of a performance gain for me, ordered 6950xt for $580 with Starfield.
I recently upgraded my RTX 2080 Ti with a RTX 4090 liquid cooled and I have zero regrets...the jump in performance is amazing. I didn't consider AMD when I was getting ready to upgrade due to my monitor being G-sync Ultimate certified. That's not to say I have anything against Radeon cards...I just always go for the fastest card available when I upgrade.
The last Radeon I owned was an ATI. I do miss the days when the Radeon cards and Geforce cards would keep on upping each other every other generation.
From someone who plays competitively and have had both AMD and now Nvidia. Nvidia is infinitely better than AMD
Thats whats up
Simple fact 8GB VRAM is NOT enough for 2023 even just 1080p gaming! Do what Linus Tech tips advises, if you can't afford a RTX4070Ti and are thinking of getting an RTX4060: Spend just a little extra and get a second hand RTX3080 10/12GB for $350 which MASSIVELY outperforms even the RTX4060Ti, and which is STILL UNDER WARRANTY! They came with a 3 year warranty, so make sure you get the original receipt and as the RTX3080s haven't even been out 3 years you are safe!
Don't spend over $200 on ANY GPU (regardless of other specs) which only has 8GB VRAM because they are only 720p graphics cards, which is MASSIVELY outdated, as they can't play even all current games as 1080p ultra without glitching!
The RX7900 XTX is a £900+ card in the UK. I just bought a 3080 instead for £650. 🤷♂️
And im sure your games are running smooth as butter. Good choice 👌
@@Hallelujah3r No complaints🙂
FSR, FG, DLSS should never be a reason for whay we should buy a graphics card neither should these greedy corporates make it as if its an "amazing, cutting edge" technology that we should base our opinion when it comes to choose which kind or version of cards we should buy, we need to make sure that these companies understand that this technology should be only consider for ppl with low-end graphics card whom cant efford a high-end one, we must make them focus on giving us cards with upgraded raw power and implement DLSS, FSR and Frame-gen just as a gimmicky feature thats it
Nvidia hands for two smaller reason a really big one.
- Better Ray Tracing Performance which will matter more and more as games use it more frequently
- DLSS is better then FSR AND is the best anti-aliasing option available, or rather DLAA is. Implementation of both DLSS and FSR is becoming the norm in a lot of games.
Finally Frame Generation: Doubling your FPS in games is a major affair, and with upscaling becoming rather common in games it is very relevant these days. I'd use it in every game that I'd play unless, sure the input lag can be an issue, but it's only really relevant if you're really pushing for it as a competitive gamer. Though I have to wonder how someone's performance would compare between 60 FPS in CoD with Frame Gen OFF vs 120 FPS with it on but with 20 MS added.
I got myself ROG Strix 4070 Ti , Absolutely Love It. N By The way , That Prime PC is looking Nice ! Can you do a Video on TUF GT502 White Version , you build pretty sweet White PCs.
can you make a video mentioning which AMD vs NVIDIA cards are equivalent in their performance? I wanted to know what are the best GPUs under budget. I don't have any interest in playing Esports. I will do casual gaming.
4080 faster from 7900xtx? LOL. How much nvidia paid you? What else, 3070 faster from rx 6800?
Exactly lol 7900xtx is faster in almost every game lol
You Completely Ignore the Biggest Issue.
Which is the Price for for Performance.
Its nice that NVIDIA gives me extra Features to make Fake Frames to make the game look Smoother. But if AMD for the same Price Simply Offers more Raw Performance and thus Simply offers more Real Frames. Then Sorry. But NVIDIA can stick its DLSS where the Sun doesnt Shine.
I mean no Offense. But Seriously.
Why should anyone get a 4080 for 200 Dollars more than a RX7900XTX when it can only give You higher Performance by Inserting Fake Frames in between ???
You are basicly Just Paying for Fake Frames which on top only actually give You a Good Experience if Your Framerate is already Higher than Necessary anyways.
Which is the biggest Joke here. Because if this would allow Lower Cards to Increase the FPS to a Playable Rate on Demanding Games I might even consider this a Plus.
Because having a Game Run on 40 FPS instead of 20 FPS is much more Playable even if there is a bit more Latency in it.
But thats not even the Case. If You dont get 60 FPS already then using this works Terrible.
And while that Competetive Gamer would rather like 120 FPS than 80 FPS but if his Latency Suffers as a Result thats not gonna Fly.
And if a Cheaper Card can give him 100 FPS but without increasing Latency then take a Guess which one he Takes.
You also use DLSS on all the Benchmarks which basicly means that all of that Data assumes the Gamer is Willing to take the Latency Issue.
Yeah not happening.
So Yeah no Thanks.
AMD Wins Hands Down for Literally everything here.
Personally I've always considered dlss and fsr and such tech as cheating us out of pure performance uplifts from generation to generation. RT has felt like a gimmick to me as well, most games i either don't notice it, or i have to just carefully look at a scene and turn it on and off to actually notice much of a difference. While in the future its likely to improve, especially with path tracing...but that's years away and it really comes down to how its implemented by game designers. i just upgraded my 3070ti to a 7900xtx. love the xtx and considering the 4080 was $400(cad) more for basically the same raster performance it was a no brainer for me.. I'm hoping Intels battle mage will give both AMD and Nvidia a reason to sweat for the next gen of cards, but we'll have to wait and see.
Spoken like a true AMD fanboy
@@arithmetic7105 Answered like a true Nvidia fanboy
Also i like how integrated the amd software is and easy to use. I can limit fps, tweak color profile, overclock, monitor temps etc all from one app and its easy to find ur way around. Nvidia can do mostly the same but their app is long outdated and also they need more than one for certain things. If they fix that nvidia could very well be my next card
@@arithmetic7105 you sound foolish. I've been using nvidia for years till now...lol
As someone who likes to look at all the little details and has a card that can run it, i do enjoy RT in a lot of games. I just can't justify spending over 1000$+ and not care about the RT performance. It starts to really matter at this price point.
do i need an account to download drivers for AMD? That always bugged me about NVidia and the geforce experience program
They fixed this. I guess u know that
Here’s how i would personally decide on what brand gpu, but first note that amd cards have better performance for price points and better vram for its cards than nvidia, but if u a single player gamer and want immersion go nvidia, if u play multiplayer only and want the best performance for ur buck then go amd. If u do both kinds of gaming then i’d go amd due to their better performance at price point than nvidia cards and u can still do ray tracing for that immersion, just don’t expect the performance to be as good as nvidia cards with ray tracing. Although I hear the 7900 xtx has some pretty good ray tracing for an amd card but the thats the only one i heard from amd with decent ray tracing. Just my personal opinion
I think for 4080s vs 7900xtx
Is battlezone
4090 only nvidia
Lower than 4080s go for amd
Am i right?
I'm planning to build my first PC and I was planning to buy an RX 6800XT for my gpu, however here in the Philippines here I couldn't find any. Should I just get a RTX 4070? or wait for RX 7750XT or RX 7800XT?
just wait a bit longer on the 7700 and 7800 and then decide.
Your benchmarks seem very nvidia sided, i had 4070 ti and 7900xt pisses on it on every single game, there must be something you're doing wrong.
Probably has resizable bar off so no smart access memory for the AMD cards, Makes a pretty sizable difference.
Was also wondering this. Nearly all other benchmarks will show/state 7900XTX above a 4080 or equal. Also since when is a 7900XT only as good as a 3080? That seemed the most off for me considering the 6950XT leaves 3080 way behind, and thats slower/equal.
Actually from look of it, it seems he's only used RT-Based benchmarks alongside DLSS/FSR.. Why? Isn't this video meant' to entail performance across the board?
But wait..................now after four months the 7800 XT is crushing the 4070!
Amazing video ! thanks so much
With all the linus stuff maybe this is a good channel to settle down in. Great video
Can you do a video of what GPU's are best to game and stream at the same time
Ive had Nvidia ever since i started on PC, last year i got a 6800xt, i dont use ray tracing (mainly cause i cant) but performance wise my card has been brilliant, never had a problem with maxing out settings, with the prices Nvidia are asking for in Australia at this stage i will not get another Nvidia Card
My 2070 still seems to work for me. I think I've had decent value from it although at the time it seemed overpriced.
But then I'm not chasing high refresh rate and ultra details anymore.
I am very tempted to upgrade just because.
Some games like Forza always seem to do well with amd cards so i suppose the games you play matter.
It's probably between the 4070 and 6950 but I'm still researching.
The dame i stil have my 2970 super, and at current prices I will not upgrade anytime soon.
@@sgarridojr yeah I think they still do ok.
I'm just thinking of treating myself and my second pc only has a 1060 , so be nice to put the 2070 in that.
I feel like 6950 is much better because of more horsepower and vram
Toms hardware and pcgamer give the nod to the 4070.
I'm going to have to look at benchmarks for the games I play.
They seem a similar price.
Also maybe the size of the card will come into play and what brands are available for both. I do like the MSI Nvidia cards.
@@letni9506the 6800xt is better than a 4070 not the ti version well cheaper and more vram
im thinking of going with either a 6950 xt or 7900 xtx i do not care about AAA games at all love seeing these price drops though im waiting longer my 1080 ti is still chugging along
I hope the future video cards would focus on native resolution performance/quality instead of DLSS/FSR.
For pure rasterization gaming performance? AMD offers better value. For RT gaming performance, upscailing performance, video editing, 3D modeling, AI generation, and everything else nVidia by a WIDE mile.
The RX 6800 16gb for £390 is an absolute bargain right now. Stomps the 4060 ti.
Hewllo! Brilian videos! Questionm.
I play games and I'm a heavy user of Photoshop and Lighroom for photo editing. Which card do you recommend?
I'm an AMD fan but I have to admit that Nvidia is the right choice if you're not considering money.
Just finished buying and researching all the parts for my newest build and i think most people would agree they dont hold alot of value in ray tracing. Amd’s price to performance usually beats it ls team green counter part and as someone who doesnt really care for ray tracing i went for a 7900xt over a 4070ti/4080 for similar performance i am saving more money as I probably wont ever use ray tracing BUT even if i did want to the card is still capable of providing a very playable experience. I think amd is overall better rn compared to nvidia
Sadly, in many cases it's Nvidia.
Hey PC Centric, you remind me of Milo from Atlantis The Lost Empire!.. in a good way :D Everyone seems to be creating content in some capacity these days.. Choosing a card that provides the most flexibility and support for creative applications would be ideal!
I have just bought a 7900XT Sapphire Pluse £729.00
For months I still can't decide wich one is better. I own both a RT4090 and a RX7900XTX and I spend my time switching them in my PC (probably until I break something) because I like them both. I love AMD adrenaline interface but the GPU is struggling with heavy rendering apps and games, RTX perfs are monstrous, but I hate the control panel and the drivers seem to lower in quality.
For budget gpus, amd is better.
For high end, both are bad value rn. Nvidia has more performance on the very high end but is also VERY expensive which means very bad value
Thanks man I love watching your content
Since its my first pc and note that i have not even tried gaming ever in my life(except for that one match of valorant in my friends house) i want to use ray tracing and at the same time i want the higher vram of amd, currently trying to make a decision between 7900xt and 4070 Ti and in my country 4070 Ti is cheaper and also fits in my budget so idk i might go for that, and also the cpu id i5-13400f
I have a 4070, which people hate. I love it.
So I just bought the Zotac 4070 TI Trinity OC DLSS 3 12GB for $729 on new egg during cyber Monday. I am nervous now realizing that 12 GB of vramm may not save me a few years down the road and I wonder about resale value etc. I've always wanted to check out Nvidia.
Don’t get that predator Orion he plugged in at the beginning. Saw a video and the fan noise on that pc makes it sound like a vacuum cleaner/ jet engine
yea i would never trust a prebuilt pc.
AMD is cheaper
Nvidia is better if you want to be higher end chips, AMD doesn't make REALLY high end GPUs
I had a 1080ti for 6 years, it was SOLID!
Unfortunately very dated today, even the RX7600 almost competes against it for FPS.
Now I have a Nitro+ RX7900XTX and have been loving it, I want raw power out of my GPU's, not AI, not frame gen....
I'm surprised that AMD have been allowing Nvidia such an easy lead when it comes to Ray tracing though
@sagnikghosh5386 AI only makes sense for games that are so thirsty that's its needed. Which for now at least is only a few.
VR would utilise AI tech very well
@sagnikghosh5386 That's what I'm referring to, there's only 5 or so games that actually require AI tech to hit good frames at 4K....
Im thinking about stopping with Nvidia because of how hard they push Ray tracing, worst garbage added since their attempt with PhysX which was just another variant of it.
QUESTION: is a Ryzen 5600 | RTX 3060 Ti 8GB Graphics Card | 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 | 1TB NVME SSD | 600W PSU for £799 worth it? thank you, love your content
Thinking of getting this exact same build idk if I should go with the 3060 ti or the rx 6700xt 😅
@@0ne0ne. let me know which one you decided to get
@@xploshisson76 yeah for sure I want to try find someone who knows pcs better than I do so I know which one to get 😂
@@0ne0ne.AMD will get you better performance. No reason why more guys
Get the RX 6700 XT instead. That VRAM amount is future proof.
Buying Nvidia cards is a rich man's game. Cause they are more expensive in the sense that you will have to upgrade them more often than AMD cards cause they have alot of vram limitations. So when counting the cost to own you should look into the future and see that is why they are longterm more expensive. Even using less watts wont counter balance the fact that you still need to buy a whole new gpu more often
The graphs you showed are pretty weird, ngl... 7900XTX slower than 4070Ti? lol
I don't really understand, nvidia says 4060ti is for 1080px gaming but ppl are whining there's not enough vram for 1440p and 4k
The point is you shouldn't be spending 400 dollies for only 1080p
1080P ultra settings with any enhancement (DLSS or Raytracing) can and does use more than 8GB of vram during use. This leads to textures not loading and stuttering. The 4060TI is a shining example of this and is not capable of running 1080P completely. It will never be able to run 1440P at ultra for the same reasons in most new games.
Realistically Nvidia actually used to promote that xx60-TI was 1080P, xx70-TI was 1440P, xx80-TI was 4K, and xx90-TI or Titan was Enthusiast top of the line.
Now though xx60-TI is entry/Medium 1080P, xx70-TI is 1080P/medium 1440P, xx80-TI is 1440P/Medium 4K, and xx90-TI is 4K. Nvidia chose to take this approach to the 4000 series and it is on them for making that decision. It has been known for over a year before the release of the 4000 series that Vram was going to be an issue with advancing textures, effects, and enhancements. Saddest thing is it is Nvidia pushing the enhancements that kill their own cards rastorization performance because of the vram limitations.
I just want a GPU that is reliable and won’t break on me but also does preform highly well like the 6700xt. Mine broke just randomly and I don’t know why
My hot-take (without watching the video) is that AMD dont really make sense, even if it's just for gaming. For content creation and gaming Nvidia win hands down. All the game devs I know wouldnt touch an AMD card for work - the optimisation for most professional software (UE4, Substance Painter, Blender, Marvelous designer, not to mention AI) is patchy at best. If it's its just for gaming, and im thinking AAA games here (not online competitive ones), then the PS5 breezer over AMD for price/performance. You can find a used optical PS5 now for like $200...it's an absolute no brainer over an entry level AMD system. This AMD GPU popularity is a totally false economy, and I suspect is just for people with more money than sense, or perhaps for competitive gamers (but if you're actualy a succesful competitive gamer, then you wouldnt care about price/performrance and just get the best card out ... which is Nvidia).
The only products AMD are good are their CPU line. Absolutely incredible what theyve done in that space, but their GPU's just dont make any sense.
In case you are looking to move into another OS like linux team red is a little less annoying when it comes to drivers and gaming.
7900XTX or 4080?
I bought a 6600M mini PC for $700 to replace my 2060 laptop. Im happy. These prices are getting out of hand.
the 4070 and the rx 7800 xt are both at similar prices and are competitors accept that the rx 7800 xt has 16gb of vram compared to the 12 on the 4070 so it is a big tradeoff between companies
I will say, my AMD card is fine but it does start having issues when it comes to the strange monitor resolutions like 2560x1080. It will try to manipulate games to match the monitors resolution and will completely softlock the pc (atleast this is a problem I have had)
I have a 3080 for 4k. I am very happy with it, but the v-ram just lacks. Games are starting to have a problem with it, so I just bought a 7900xtx for future proofing. I do not care for rtx and I do not mind fsr. I think i'll be quite aight
How are you getting in with nvidia? Do you find games smoother on amd or nvidia leass stutterimg and fps drops etc? Thanks
I've always had invidia cards I like both cards I built my new pc the beginning of this year I went with amd 7900xt with an Intel cpu had to go with more vram for the price and I have to say I'm really enjoying it
Nvidia all day and I will be buying a 4090/13900k pre built.
My dream is to one day get my hands on a PC Centric build. Great video!
I'm building a pc in a couple of days with intel i5 12400f processor and i do works like video editing and gaming. I'm thinking to take RTX 4060 ti or RX 6750XT so please recommend me the better one for my pc build.
Rx 6750xt. Enjoy great 1440p gaming at 120+ fps with no stutters
Depends what video editing program Premier buy NVIDIA if not buy a 6750xt
Nvidia also has some features that some 3D software like Blender uses which is why I prefer it
As an amd gpu user .. I will stop buying any amd gpu until they don’t resolve this drivers gpu .. they driving me crazy .. black screen .. no signal .. fps drop from 100+ to 23 in esports .. I’m done with them ..waiting for my 12 gb 3060 to come ..
Interesting, I always had AMD cards and never had the problems you described...
@@Muldeeer is too bad I can’t add pictures with frames drop in comment sections .. dota 2 cs go Warzone .. rolled back drivers .. ddu fresh windows install .. nothing .. screens turns black .. no signal the only way to resolve this is to restart pc and if it works you are good if it doesn’t .. need to reinstall the driver again
Had a 1660 Super, then switched to RX 6600. Changed that AMD Gpu after 3 weeks with a 3060 Gaming X Trio, like nvidia more. Imo its personal preference
I got a rtx 4070 ti with amd ryzen 9 7900 is it a good combo
And AMD gpu would be better
Yes
Depends on your daily task and specific games you play.
I have spent the last 2 weeks looking at which CPU, GPU, CASE, CPU COOLER, SSD, RAM, POWER SUPPLY, and to be honest it is driving me round the bend. I liked the white gaming pc you built but can’t get the GPU. I have seen so many things but then you go to choose a gaming monitor and you have gone over £2k which at the moment I can’t justify spending. E even after watching this I am still non the wiser to which GPU to get. I thought about buying a bit at a time and then building it. But I will be in a care home by that time. It’s either a gaming PC, new laptop (current cpu is a AMD A9-9420, fast it is not 😡) or a PS5. I am going to take some pain meds, got a bloody headache now. 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫🥴
What's your budget? Watch reputable youtubeers AMD builds for you budget
@@lethumolefe-mhlongo1508 I was looking at about £1500 but not sure that will be enough now.
Fuck the looks Performance must be good.
Daniel Owens Makes really good example videos
6700xt is the value King btw.
it s fucking annoying and pathetic that some people are trying to have a console war with graphic cards
Having a hard time choosing between 6700 XT and 3060ti for 1440p don’t care about raytracing and features , the extra vram amd cards give seem tempting and the only drawback I can think on is higher power use and maybe temps
6700 XT is better value and better overall
6700XT is a nobrainer.
@@withergoat5453should i buy 6700xt or 6800xt my cpu is ryzen 5 7600
@@voidesui would wait till the 7700 xt comes out and buy that one
Im thinking RX 7800 XT with Ryzen 5 7600X or Ryzen 7 7800X3D... it seems like the best value at the moment for 1440p and the 16gb will be welcomed in the future..
If you are just a gamer, get the graphics card that fits your budget.
AMD and Nvidia don't make much difference.
RTX Broadcast/Voice is the killer feature imho
Not enough people talk about how absolute trash Geforce Experience. This is legitimate a bigger issue to me than things like RT performance.
So I’ve recently purchased a custom built pc with an i7- 13700F processor, 32BG of ram, with a 4070ti graphics card. Would you suggest this should handle any game at max settings on 1440p?
Buys first asks questions later.
@@Magusslettewestbergthe way I roll 😎😎
@2ezsonnythank you sir. Was just worried if the processor was going to be enough but shouldn’t really have any problems
@@CatusMilkiusThe processor is more than enough, you could save some money on your processor and get the i5 13600k or r5 7600 if the goal is just for gaming. Those alternatives perform just as well for gaming but are cheaper
@@xxNATHANUKxx ahh fair enough. Maybe I just thought about future proofing and was the way forward
I'm uncertain about the sources of your benchmarks, but from the comparisons I’ve observed between the 7900 XTX and the 4080 on Google, the former seems to outperform the latter in nearly every game. I've reviewed the first four or five benchmarks, and this has been consistent. It raises concerns about potential biases towards Nvidia, and I worry that this might lead to the dissemination of inaccurate information. Please ensure that you're referencing reliable and unbiased sources. :)
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