Robin vs Pela ft. Jiaoqiu against Lightning RES MoC | E0S1 Acheron Team Comparison | MoC 2.4

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @hohens7118
    @hohens7118 4 месяца назад +194

    Remember when everyone called Robin an easy skip if you already had RM?

    • @soreaphine9955
      @soreaphine9955 4 месяца назад +97

      ugh yea it was awful... everuone pitting two queens against eachother

    • @nextniko9051
      @nextniko9051 4 месяца назад +35

      I remember... so glad I tried robin's PS and still believed in the "always pull harmony" cause so much people shat on this character and honestly made me doubt her at first lmao. Large CCs and Prydwen have always have been a problem. PS players are by far the best to listen to when it comes to hsr character recommendations.
      Now I'm sitting with Robin e1 beating every content with ease, she's just bloody broken and I love it. Feels like I don't have to pull for a long time. Although I'm going for her LC (lost to it at first) and maybe even e2 on rerun.

    • @hoangvinh1485
      @hoangvinh1485 4 месяца назад +14

      I have ruan mei, bronya and sparkle I still get her cus i knew she is broken. Love how she aged so well

    • @Vash_wrio
      @Vash_wrio 4 месяца назад

      @@nextniko9051what is PS?

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 4 месяца назад +4

      ME who already have RM but still pulled for Robin, BUT the game made me lose her 50/50 to Bronya! 😖😭

  • @minamiheroine4397
    @minamiheroine4397 4 месяца назад +137

    i can see the future.
    Robin will be T0 once Feixiao comes out.
    Even tho she already is 🗿

    • @gharbisyassine7576
      @gharbisyassine7576 4 месяца назад +54

      Fr , she is already T0 , but ig prydwen is waiting for a logical reason (feixiao release) to explain why they messed up her rating

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +28

      ​@@gharbisyassine7576 Prywden is a circus at this point, the fact that even a normal player can tell how Robin is better than Ruan in almost every team comp

    • @ДюсековИльяс
      @ДюсековИльяс 4 месяца назад +12

      ​@@iamwayne6138no? Ruan Mei is better than Robin. The 100% advance is nothing compared to ruan mei free speed. Weakness break efficiency and toighness damage. Plus the delay on recovery from break. Robin is good tbf, but Ruan Mei is still better

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +20

      @@ДюсековИльяс Aint no way you just say that when the 100% action advance is only a small part of her kit, completely ignore 50% dmg, 25% crit, 25% fua crit, high self damage and more than 100% atk.

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +9

      @@ДюсековИльяс And also, instead of just saying Ruan mei is better, maybe do a little research. People have done so many test run, and turn out, Robin is better than Ruan mei at Hypercarry comp, Fua comp, traditional crit comp and sometime even dot comp, that's most of the comp. People just like Ruan mei because her buff is universal

  • @BailuGaming
    @BailuGaming 4 месяца назад +150

    Prydwen can keep coping with T0 RM, Robin will keep stomping at every team but break 🗿.

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 4 месяца назад +80

      both are t0 IMO, but if we could only have 1 the answer is clear.

    • @judielgabrielmanalo5031
      @judielgabrielmanalo5031 4 месяца назад +19

      Meanwhile sparkle:🗿 her only team is sp hungry dps 🗿

    • @jin8982
      @jin8982 4 месяца назад +42

      Both are best at different teams. Robin without fua teams gets very energy hungry tho

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 4 месяца назад +14

      @@jin8982 that's why we have TIngyun and Chadllagher Huowho?

    • @азатулен
      @азатулен 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BailuGamingrm?

  • @chitbu24
    @chitbu24 4 месяца назад +19

    damn time to save up for Robin rerun

  • @cora5191
    @cora5191 4 месяца назад +42

    Thank you for these showcases. Guess my pulling plans so far is get Jiao for my E0S1 Acheron, skip Feixiao (sadly) and Pull Lingsha for FF and then save for Robin rerun (unless a newer character gets my attention)

    • @tintedplot96
      @tintedplot96 4 месяца назад +7

      Unfortunately right now a lot of people agree lingsha isn’t even better for ff unless you have ff e1, let’s hope for some buffs !

    • @Hikaru540
      @Hikaru540 4 месяца назад +2

      Same here ✌️

    • @p3rs0n014
      @p3rs0n014 4 месяца назад +10

      If your gallagher is good enough then Lingsha won't really be that much better than him, even worse in SP efficiency. I'd wait until v3 since I was going to get her but realized gallagher is more than enough for me.

    • @elkakashi9582
      @elkakashi9582 4 месяца назад +2

      this was also my exact plan Jiao, Lingsha and Robin.

    • @nizmunmuniz7323
      @nizmunmuniz7323 4 месяца назад +1

      Same too

  • @luis7576
    @luis7576 4 месяца назад +3

    Damn, with all this new info my plans have taken a 360 degree turn. I have Acheron E1S0, now my goal will be to get Jioaqiu, Acheron E2 and then Robin.

  • @cheesydummy8003
    @cheesydummy8003 4 месяца назад +95

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    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 4 месяца назад

      OMG IT's Korn *OUGHH RATA PEENTA EENTA OUGHH WATANG*

  • @surya2600
    @surya2600 4 месяца назад +3

    Thanks bro, now im hyper confused on skipping this patch for jiaoqiu or not

  • @yofukashidayo
    @yofukashidayo 4 месяца назад +51

    My life as a star rail player, all roads lead to robin

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 4 месяца назад +3

      HARMONY STAR RAIL WOOO BEST GAME I LOVE SUPPORT WAIFUS I LOVE HAVING A NON FUNCTIONAL TEAM WHEN I MISS OUT ON ONE

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 4 месяца назад +3

      Catarina samaaa

    • @yofukashidayo
      @yofukashidayo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@nyes4596 haha, glad you got the reference.

  • @rasxhu6643
    @rasxhu6643 4 месяца назад +31

    Heya! Can you do comparison between Robin and Sparkle(e0s1 oreferably at minimum and e1s1 at max) in a team with Acheron E2S1 + Jiaqou?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 месяца назад +28

      next vid

    • @rasxhu6643
      @rasxhu6643 4 месяца назад

      ​@@cornflakebutsillyThanks :D

    • @BrandedDespia-qg8lf
      @BrandedDespia-qg8lf 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@rasxhu6643e1s1 robin is overkill bro 😂

    • @rasxhu6643
      @rasxhu6643 4 месяца назад

      @@BrandedDespia-qg8lf well it's for science and testing. Plus not like it's unrealistic or anything, most people would get supports eidolons up to E1 usually if they're really into the character

  • @karim3896
    @karim3896 4 месяца назад +11

    Hi! Can you do a DoT team comparison substituting Black Swan for Jiaoqiu?
    Kafka, JQ, Ruan Mei, Sustain vs Kafka, BS, Ruan Mei, Sustain (bonus Kafka, Black Swan, JQ, Sustain 😅)
    Thanks for the showcases!

    • @enzohamard5036
      @enzohamard5036 4 месяца назад

      The bonus team is already worse than the Black Swan team and I'd say Black Swan is still better in dot

  • @santabakure6264
    @santabakure6264 4 месяца назад +31

    Robin was never mid like she has her own damage which is in fact insane for supports(outside of ruanmei with harmony tb)

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +5

      @@santabakure6264 Yup, she is indeed, muh stronger than Ruan mei. But the thing is, Ruan mei's glazers is too much, that's why there are so many doompost about Robin, as they don't want any harmony supprass their queen

    • @rammi3822
      @rammi3822 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@iamwayne6138 would say the same thing w every character that do the same function as another character tbh, they cope that the newer ones are worse than their fav and spread the hate everywhere for banners to fail. Kind of a hilarious case of a parasocial relationship

    • @nfu2174
      @nfu2174 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah no, ruan mei is better in everyway

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +7

      @@nfu2174 You mean universal? Because statics show that Robin outperform Ruan mei in hypercarry comp, fua comp, crit comp, Archeron comp and sometime even dot comp

    • @nfu2174
      @nfu2174 4 месяца назад

      @@iamwayne6138 nah, robin have energy issue outside of fua team, and if u say slot with gallagher qpq for that, then it restrict her team option more and that a problem, sometime it not about damge, it about how easy, flexible, effortless and effective for character to consider who the more meta define character, in this case, Ruan Mei easily beat Robin.

  • @Mitsuri7878
    @Mitsuri7878 4 месяца назад +27

    Jiaoqiu so good 💯

  • @ZytenEspada
    @ZytenEspada 4 месяца назад +2

    Can you do DoTcheron (Kafka/Swan) with JQ on PF/MoC? I just want to see how well it plays.

  • @excalibuur9925
    @excalibuur9925 4 месяца назад +1

    Kafka technically has 20% Lightning RES if we factor in Acheron's ultimate which reduces all-type RES by 20%

    • @pally3370
      @pally3370 4 месяца назад

      You would still say 40% lightning res. Dmg is calculated differently when above/below res threshold

    • @nosneponsnek
      @nosneponsnek 4 месяца назад +2

      @@pally3370 No it's not. Res pen and res are all the same multiplier. It's exactly the same above and below threshold:
      RES Multiplier = 1 - RES + RES Pen
      So saying it's like 20% RES means: 1 - 0.2 = 0.8
      And 40% RES plus 20% PEN means: 1 - 0.4 + 0.2 = 0.8
      It's the same.

    • @Kspice9000
      @Kspice9000 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@pally3370other dudes right.

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 4 месяца назад +8

    All these Robin’s showcases even in non fua teams (except break) is making me want to skip Sparkle’s lc to save more for Robin’s rerun. My Sparkle is e1.
    Because Robin gives the same amount of action forward as 2 Sparkle's skill but to everyone instead of one ally. She can also do dmg during her concerto state and while provide a lot dmg buffs to her team.
    edit: Clarification for av forward.

    • @kaete_7
      @kaete_7 4 месяца назад

      you wanting to skip sparkle....me having to skip one of my 4 wanted characters being sparkle but its hard T T

  • @2bainz
    @2bainz 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you try Sparkle vs Robin in an E2 Acheron team? great vids btw

  • @user-wr6wh9it6b
    @user-wr6wh9it6b 4 месяца назад

    hi. how would black swan perform in the same team? worse than pela?

  • @Pomerons
    @Pomerons 3 месяца назад

    how worse would pela + robin be vs jq + robin?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  3 месяца назад +2

      @@Pomerons wouldn't recommend robin for E0 Acheron without Jiaoqiu

  • @AdamNRG316
    @AdamNRG316 4 месяца назад +6

    That's pretty crazy with Acheron being e0 and Robin being harmony. Really regret not pulling her now, even though her song does my head in lol.

  • @rbpcuus
    @rbpcuus 4 месяца назад

    Is this still Acheron's best team if I don't have her LC and instead have boundless choreo s1?

  • @deadrosas
    @deadrosas 3 месяца назад

    Literally 1 more action for peela. Robin is giga broken but this team doesn’t do her justice.

  • @Darksouls1904
    @Darksouls1904 4 месяца назад +5

    Do this on hoolay boss if u could

  • @luis7576
    @luis7576 4 месяца назад +1

    If Robin has the 4* Memories of the Past cone and Sparkle has the 4* Past and Future cone, is Robin or Sparkle better?

    • @mauriciorosademoraes9209
      @mauriciorosademoraes9209 4 месяца назад

      It's not a lightcone that will make sparkle better. Robin overall kit is just better for every crit DPS than sparkle, even DHILL, Sparkle is just with DHILL because of SP generation and becaus he's too slow, but Robin makes DHILL causes more damage (his best team is actually Sparkle, Robin, Huohuo so this is enough).
      It's sad but Sparkle will be never better than Robin if the DPS is not similar to DHILL.

  • @SunderlandAlexis
    @SunderlandAlexis 4 месяца назад

    Do Jiaoqiu and Gallagher both need 160 speed for the team to work?

  • @miki8350
    @miki8350 4 месяца назад +9

    is sparkle worth having if you already have robin? can you help me pick between sparkle and jiaoqiu? who is more valuable/ flexible? i know jiaoqiu is a lot more flexible than most ppl think but i want a second opinion

    • @suki0k
      @suki0k 4 месяца назад +15

      Depends on teams but for now jiaoqiu is better as there is not much hyper carry now days (and thats whete sparkle is good) so jiaoqiu unlest they put more characters that are hyper carry (since jiaoqiu is not really out yet so his kit can change so this is not definitive)

    • @c.l.p.c5970
      @c.l.p.c5970 4 месяца назад +13

      ​@@suki0k jq kit won't change, v5 is the final version (unless they tweak some small things, but I highly doubt it)

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 4 месяца назад +6

      JQ, the meta has stopped revolving around Hypercarry so Sparkle is the harmony struggling the most with getting a T0 team. Seeing as Bronya has been getting slotted into newer teams when she was considered a downgraded Sparkle, means the two are more equal in power level compared to the OP Robin and RM

    • @seraphywang4638
      @seraphywang4638 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes, currently. If you struggle with skill points, Sparkle will be better as she provides more comfort but she is only best in slot for hypercarries which are falling off to mid since Bronya is usually best in slot for them. However, if you have Tingyun or Hanya built, this no longer becomes an issue in which case, Jiaoqiu’s debuffs will be better for team amplification for dmg.
      If it helps your decision, since Jiaoqiu is a relatively recent character, he will likely have a faster rerun but he’s the better choice here if you already have Robin.

    • @caiohl8135
      @caiohl8135 4 месяца назад

      Sparkle teams aren't great right now. Get Jiaoqiu if you have acheron or skip both otherwise

  • @Foodiiee01
    @Foodiiee01 4 месяца назад

    is it worth trying to get jiaoqiu if i cant guarantee his lightcone afterwards? also is it even worth getting jiaoqiu without his lightcone? if not then i can save more pulls for robin rerun

  • @viperx679
    @viperx679 4 месяца назад

    should i pull sparkle or jiaoqiu E0S0, if i have E2S1 acheron and currently use E1S1 Bronya with her? (i also have E0S0 robin)

    • @cristiana.9077
      @cristiana.9077 4 месяца назад

      jiaoqiu 100%, you just can run robin who's even better than sparkle

  • @Dead-Lit
    @Dead-Lit 4 месяца назад

    I need some help. I don't have Acheron yet but want to build a team around her. I was going to get her E2, but I think I'll have to pull for JQ first. I have Robin and Sparkle at E0S0. What's the best way to build an Acheron team that hits hard?:
    * Should I get JQ first, then Acheron, and then E1 Robin?
    * Or should I get JQ, E0S1 Acheron, and then E1 Robin?
    * Or should go for E1 Sparkle and then go for Acheron's E2?
    If I can't get Acheron's E2, will her LC still be a good upgrade until she comes back? What should I pull for?.

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 4 месяца назад +2

      JQ then Acheron. JQ battery with E0S0 Acheron beats out E2S0 Acheron with Harmony.

  • @yas6156
    @yas6156 4 месяца назад

    How would you evaluate getting JQ vs getting his S1 and putting it on Guin? Since getting S1 is cheaper for me so wondering if its worth

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 месяца назад +5

      @@yas6156 It's not worth it, go for Jiaoqiu if you can

    • @yas6156
      @yas6156 4 месяца назад

      @@cornflakebutsilly ah i see, thank you!

  • @aaronsarreal3349
    @aaronsarreal3349 4 месяца назад

    can you try using E0S0 and also E0S1 jiaoqui with e2 s1 kafka and e0s0 black swan as DOT team coz currently i have this dot Team with e2 kafka i just want to check the damage if its worth pulling for jiaoqui for my 3rd dot since my ruanmei is always in my firefly team

  • @taesshi
    @taesshi 4 месяца назад +12

    0:02 It only reduces her damage by 20% because she has innate 20% all res pen but still impressive nonetheless.

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 месяца назад +26

      That RES down is still there for 0% RES enemies, you are still doing 40% less damage than what you're supposed to

    • @ZenFattyCat.4869
      @ZenFattyCat.4869 4 месяца назад +10

      It's still 40% less than if it were other enemies with lightning weak. It's not like res shred suddenly stop being effective if the enemy you fight has 0% res against your element

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk 4 месяца назад +1

      it can go below zero so more res pen, more damage

  • @dayfe9933
    @dayfe9933 4 месяца назад +13

    another episode "why i skip robin?"

    • @MariaJose-ow3pe
      @MariaJose-ow3pe 4 месяца назад +5

      I skipped Robin because I preferred Boothill 🗿🗿 and I don't regret it.

    • @txfffy997
      @txfffy997 4 месяца назад +5

      @@MariaJose-ow3pestill great choice boothil are broken

    • @MariaJose-ow3pe
      @MariaJose-ow3pe 4 месяца назад +1

      @@txfffy997 Yup Boothill is soo broken ,🗿, Superbreak team is GOD

    • @tristianybanez5972
      @tristianybanez5972 4 месяца назад

      ​@MariaJose-ow3pe he's not super break though as his best teammate is Bronya right?

    • @zalox12
      @zalox12 3 месяца назад

      ​@@tristianybanez5972 sunday is better from his kit. I myself tried

  • @azusawhy
    @azusawhy 4 месяца назад

    would you recommend me to pull jia even if i don't have acheron?. At first i was a bit sceptical about how jia works in field, but now its all clear. My plan is pulling jia first and then save for acheron rerun

    • @zalox12
      @zalox12 3 месяца назад

      Skip him if you dont have acheron or you don't want to play dot style.

  • @Blue-yf2rx
    @Blue-yf2rx 4 месяца назад

    can you please do e0 vs e1 jiaoqiu in acheron team with pela aventurine e0s1

  • @xeviivry3798
    @xeviivry3798 4 месяца назад

    Can you also check if Incessant rain works on jiao?

  • @Ashito_Kiyokuni
    @Ashito_Kiyokuni 4 месяца назад +1

    Should i pull Jiaoqiu or acheron E2? I have acheron S1E1

    • @sasorioftheredsand4348
      @sasorioftheredsand4348 4 месяца назад

      E2 Acheron is just insane

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +2

      @@sasorioftheredsand4348 Not really, it cut down one nihility for a stronger harmony, but it also lessen her crimson stack as there are much less debuff now, so unless you are using trend, Jiao would be better

    • @KoKoNuTz232
      @KoKoNuTz232 4 месяца назад

      E2 acheron for sure.

    • @maiteegreen
      @maiteegreen 3 месяца назад

      try getting both of them

  • @Khann_2102
    @Khann_2102 4 месяца назад +1

    I only have E0S0 Acheron, so should i pull for Jiaoqiu?

    • @cosmic7944
      @cosmic7944 4 месяца назад +11

      yes, especially since your acheron is s0 you definitely need the stacks + even if its s1 its still worth it since his vulnerability is strong and has 100% uptime

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cosmic7944 Should I pull for his Lightcone too? I want to get Feixiao's LC as well to save

    • @cosmic7944
      @cosmic7944 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Khann_2102 its pretty good, but its definitely not neccesary, you can get away with eyes of the prey just fine and he will work just fine, so pull for it if you really like him (or acheron) and you want them to be stronger
      Both jiaqious LC and Feixiao's lightcone are good, but on my opinion Feixiaos LC is pretty op because of the massive defense ignore (54% max iirc) but before you decide i'd recommend you wait until V5 since the lightcone might get nerfed..
      At the end of the day, just pull the sig LC for whoever you like the most

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Khann_2102 I think you should pull for Jiao's lightcone, because there are substitute lc for Feixiao, such as swordplay. Jiao lc is also one of the rare nihility lc that buff your team dmg(24% vuln) so getting it will come in handy

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 4 месяца назад

      @@iamwayne6138 What's the best relic and planar for Jiaoqiu?

  • @MagicalNigachu
    @MagicalNigachu 4 месяца назад

    Acheron sig lc or JQ, which one should i prioritize?

    • @hamutasa3
      @hamutasa3 4 месяца назад +1

      acheron definitely

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +3

      @@MagicalNigachu Jiaoqiu definitely, her sig's stack regen is nowhere as near as Jiaoqiu does. Also, 50% ult damage + 36% crit damage of her sig can be easily replace with 73% damage of Gnsw s5

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel 4 месяца назад

      Jiaoqiu definitely, whenever acheron fall off out of meta you won't feel as sad because of your resource poured into her.
      Jiaoqiu is still a character and you can use him anywhere where he fits, who knows future characterr might prefer him as their teammate

    • @hamutasa3
      @hamutasa3 4 месяца назад +1

      ah.. are your question asking about whether you should prioritize between acheron sig or jiaoqiu himself? if so, then yes i'm standing with @iamwayne6138.
      but if your question about whether it's acheron sig or jiaoqiu sig, then acheron sig is the answer

  • @TheoDimitry
    @TheoDimitry 4 месяца назад +4

    I see, so if you have Jiaoqiu you can actually run a harmony in E0 Acheron team cause he just gives that many stacks to her ult. Impressive.

    • @SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n
      @SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n 4 месяца назад

      So, are you going to pull for Robin, friend?

    • @TheoDimitry
      @TheoDimitry 4 месяца назад +3

      @@SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n Not if Aventurine re run first. My Acheron team doesn't clear that fast but it's enough, Gepard on the other hand is really struggling to keep the team alive.

    • @Kspice9000
      @Kspice9000 3 месяца назад

      If your fine with dmg scale loss on acheron

  • @fajarwaradana9264
    @fajarwaradana9264 4 месяца назад

    Which one better for acheron e2 robin/sparkle?

    • @sasorioftheredsand4348
      @sasorioftheredsand4348 4 месяца назад +1

      Sparkle

    • @KoKoNuTz232
      @KoKoNuTz232 4 месяца назад +2

      As an E2 acheron haver, it's robin. I do way more damage when she is in the team.

    • @fajarwaradana9264
      @fajarwaradana9264 4 месяца назад

      @@KoKoNuTz232 which is faster to fill the acheron ult?

    • @fajarwaradana9264
      @fajarwaradana9264 4 месяца назад

      I'm planning to skipping sparkle to get jiaoqiu feixao and E2 acheron

    • @KoKoNuTz232
      @KoKoNuTz232 4 месяца назад +1

      @@fajarwaradana9264 E2 can fill her ult every single turn with 1 nihility and 1 harmony (sparkle/bronya)

  • @Radiant450
    @Radiant450 4 месяца назад +4

    Will JQ fit anywhere in an E2 Acheron team? I feel like he kinda won’t unless you play sustainless, but I could be wrong. Like will he be able to replace Pela/Sparkle in that team?

    • @Vash_wrio
      @Vash_wrio 4 месяца назад +9

      Yes, he’s got better debuffs, his stack generation is significantly higher, and he deals a little bit more dmg than Pela. Well, but if you have an E2 Acheron Team she can already clear every content

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +1

      He can indeed, replace both Sparkle and Pela in Archeron team, but most of the time he will replace Pela

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Vash_wrio yeah but I sometimes wanna push the limits and aim for a 0 cycle, I know I can clear all content easily already but was wondering if JQ would make a difference for cutting down on cycles, I guess if he can generate stacks like mad then yeah.

    • @KoKoNuTz232
      @KoKoNuTz232 4 месяца назад +1

      No. He brings nothing of use to an E2 acheron team.

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Radiant450 Jiao would make a big difference, the only downside of Archeron e2 is that by replacing a nihility with a harmony, Archeron damage will be boost significantly but her crimson stack gained will be way less, that's where Jiao came in clutch with his abundance stack generation

  • @sirsuntar8717
    @sirsuntar8717 4 месяца назад +3

    Hm, wouldn't the Pela team have benefitted a lot from Aventurine E0S1, compared to Robin's side?
    Gallagher adds loads of energy to Robin, which is hugely beneficial. He doesn't do anything remotely as valuable in Pela's team.
    Still, Robin will not be skipped a 2nd time :D

    • @sydorovich2532
      @sydorovich2532 4 месяца назад +11

      Gallagher is just a lot cheaper than E0S1 Aven

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 4 месяца назад +3

      @@sydorovich2532 Robin is more expensive than Pela though, too. And LC is cheaper than a character. Could give JQ or Robin their sig in exchange. Would probably be a closer and fairer comparison tbh.
      This just feels missleading

    • @sydorovich2532
      @sydorovich2532 4 месяца назад

      @@sirsuntar8717 Agree, this comparison was really unfair and JQ needed to have LC in Pela team.

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 месяца назад +17

      @@sirsuntar8717 yo this is not a dps comparison to balance cost and stuff, this comparison is to show that robin can replace pela from an acheron-jq team and give you better results.

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cornflakebutsilly But it doesn't show that. It shows that with hyperspeed Gallagher with S5 Quid Pro Quo specifically she can outperform Pela. Because he's as insane of a battery for her as JQ is for Acheron.
      You can't jut say Robin > Pela for Acheron JQ, you have to highlight hyperspeed QpQ Gallagher.

  • @mateusjogos69
    @mateusjogos69 4 месяца назад

    robin or silver wolf?

  • @oopsiees203
    @oopsiees203 4 месяца назад

    Hi, is the additional dmg from robin's ult boosted by jiaoqiu's 15% ult vulnerability?
    Thanks for the showcases!

  • @whoismichi
    @whoismichi 4 месяца назад +6

    Is Robin worth it just for e2 Acheron ? Ik Sparkle is better but i really dislike her and i'm skipping her for Jq and Feixiao

    • @oscara8454
      @oscara8454 4 месяца назад

      Use Robin if you like her more. Sparkle is better, but you're already annihilating the game if you have E2 Acheron.

    • @rohanjaime2470
      @rohanjaime2470 4 месяца назад +5

      No she's not, Robin would be better for a DOT or follow up team. Sparkle would be best for acheron's overall dmg

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 4 месяца назад +11

      I mean, Robin is probably equal to Sparkle, especially if you're using Gallagher as Sustain. Bronya would be another alternative for E2 Acheron, especially if you go 134 speed.

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 4 месяца назад +4

      Robin is the better future investment. E2 Acheron can use her and thrive with some QPQ Gallagher shenanigans for energy and JQ, sparkle is probably better yeah but the chances of us getting a SP-hungry hypercarry as strong as E2 Acheron is slim compared to the multitude of crit hypercarry, FUA, and even Robin DPS enabled by the broken singer. You're going for Fei and Robin slots perfectly with her too

    • @ena7492
      @ena7492 4 месяца назад +3

      yes because you’re getting feixiao and pulling for a character you dont like sucks lol.

  • @bigbrotheredits
    @bigbrotheredits 4 месяца назад +6

    looks like i made the right choice skipping sparkle and pulling robin.

    • @ImagineCats9339
      @ImagineCats9339 3 месяца назад

      Relax both are good

    • @bigbrotheredits
      @bigbrotheredits 3 месяца назад

      @@ImagineCats9339 seeing how I don't use hypercarry I really have no use for her. Even though both are good generally, sparkle would have no value on my Account.

  • @AgentKimiii
    @AgentKimiii 4 месяца назад

    Acheron and lightcone or Acheron and Jiaoqiu

  • @Antisalessunday
    @Antisalessunday 4 месяца назад +2

    I regret trust to anyone in the past said she only for follow up 😑

    • @txfffy997
      @txfffy997 4 месяца назад

      your fault then, should have pull for her bcs the 100% advance forward are literally a saver 🦦

    • @Ashito_Kiyokuni
      @Ashito_Kiyokuni 4 месяца назад

      I skipped her banner for fu xuan because I don't have a good sustain​@@txfffy997

  • @ribor9326
    @ribor9326 4 месяца назад +1

    robin wins in cycles, but the time is the same, does this mean that if you score on cycles, Robin loses to Pele ?

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel 4 месяца назад

      You can't just erase or ignore that part when that's where Robin is supposed to shine. Her teamwide advance forward has been extremely broken in practice that nobody realize how broken it is until they do a comparison because this kind of thing doesn't include damage that our eyes can automatically see and consume

    • @ribor9326
      @ribor9326 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Galariel but in fact, the speed of passage is the same, and a couple of cycles will not make a difference even in the abyss, which is 3 stars, which is so, the question is then why the right robin)

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ribor9326 because we don't care about time that passes in our real life time, it's a turn based game, not time based game.
      In a long fight scenario, robin could save you 1/2 cycles for your team to perform so that you can have lenient time towards your other team in this 10 cycle packed game modes.
      But I can see thr argument where it really feels the same (for us in real life) because that's the illusion of advance forward to begin with

    • @ribor9326
      @ribor9326 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Galariel something passes for 3 stars, does it make sense to overpay? I think not, the final damage will be the same

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ribor9326 overpay? You are moving the goalpost into monetary value just to make an argument now?
      Overpay is relative to what your account currently have and it's always has been a personal issue rather than universally applicable, I don't see your point at all.

  • @ellechi7337
    @ellechi7337 4 месяца назад

    Can u play dps Robin ft Jiaoqiu 😆

  • @rbpcuus
    @rbpcuus 4 месяца назад +1

    It's Robin's world 🤍

  • @crimson3696
    @crimson3696 4 месяца назад +1

    No matter how good Robin is I don't think I'll ever be able to pull for her without a mute option for her annoying ass song

    • @scorpion-qk7rr
      @scorpion-qk7rr 4 месяца назад

      You don't need to pull for her if you don't like her, and i am pretty sure she has a mute option.

    • @crimson3696
      @crimson3696 4 месяца назад +1

      @fr1mmel I can't tell if this is satire or not but work

    • @crimson3696
      @crimson3696 4 месяца назад +1

      @@scorpion-qk7rr Yes I know I don't have to LMAO and no, unfortunately you can only mute her if you mute all music. In my opinion the music in this game is always so good that I dislike that robin entirely overrides it with her song if it's not a boss

  • @jitdebnath2381
    @jitdebnath2381 4 месяца назад +1

    Ruan fraud could never 🗣️

  • @nfu2174
    @nfu2174 4 месяца назад +3

    A lot of Robin glazer here, some straight out saying Robin is the best harmony, while the truth is Ruan Mei is far better and can slot to many team comp without restriction.
    Stand proud Robin, you are strong!

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 4 месяца назад +15

      Bait used to be believable

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +6

      @@nfu2174 Robin can be slotted into every team comp Ruan mei can be slotted, and in all of those comps, the only one where Robin perform worse than Ruan mei is break comp

    • @nfu2174
      @nfu2174 4 месяца назад +2

      @@iamwayne6138 Robin have bo energy outside of fua team lol, typical Robin glazer

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад +4

      @@nfu2174 A guy who come into a Robin related video, keep commenting Ruan mei is better than Robin and then call other who responded "glazer". Yeah, I really do not know who is the real glazer here

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 4 месяца назад

      @@nfu2174 And what's with energy issue? Her team's clear time is still faster than the same team with Ruan mei(minus break ofc)

  • @dreamwelch8100
    @dreamwelch8100 4 месяца назад +1

    Wobin has the biggest ATK stat buff
    Acheron Mei needs a lot of ATK stats
    So..........................
    Even Acheron Mei, who is still E0, is paired with Bronya and Wobin (only placing 1 nihility), Acheron Mei damage is still big and no one trust me at the time🤡

  • @Ocacadordecasadas
    @Ocacadordecasadas 4 месяца назад +3

    People arguing who is better between RM and robin
    Me not caring about robin because her design is boring to me:RM is better because i have her

    • @MMDGabriel
      @MMDGabriel 3 месяца назад

      You cared enough to comment? 😅

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 3 месяца назад

      @@MMDGabriel Bro didnt read

  • @White-me2of
    @White-me2of 4 месяца назад +20

    robin>all harmonies

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 4 месяца назад +12

      Robin>HSR she is a top tier DPS/hj, Top tier Buffer, top tier Whale unit. She's just that goated

    • @White-me2of
      @White-me2of 4 месяца назад

      @@BailuGaming true

    • @NicodemusBenaya
      @NicodemusBenaya 4 месяца назад +4

      nah, she's the worst harmony because she doesn't want to come to my account 😢

    • @nfu2174
      @nfu2174 4 месяца назад +1

      All Robin glazer gather here in the video XDD

    • @shjinriven3408
      @shjinriven3408 4 месяца назад

      Robin is for high IQ players and ruan mei is for braindeads.