I left my church because of classism. We were treated poorly because we were extremely poor. What hurt me the most even now is the fact that these people discouraged my mother from sending me to high school because " she couldn't afford it". I should follow her yo do "days work" or sewing. My mom defied the odds and tried her best to send me to school. For me this is not or should not be the role of the church. I left the church but maintained a relationship with God. This relationship took me through the many obstacles during my educational journey. I still can't understand how I went through but God was with me.
So sorry about Your experience.. Pray u forgive them and move on....dont ever allow anyone or anything to stop You live the life God has purposed you for👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾You are fearfully and Wonderfully made 🙏🏾💞
@@nikkic2710 thank you. I am trying to do that. I am still wondering if I forgave them because it still hurt so much. But you know what God helped me to graduate as the top student in my batch. I am considering praying and fasting about the situation though as I need to move pass this
I can relate. This conversation is awesome. Me leaving my church and the reason for doing was forefront in my thoughts this week. I am happy that we are able to have a relationship with God despite not being apart of a particular church. I think Zhara spoke in a prior vlog about the importance od developing such a relationship.
We're really glad that you still have a relationship with God. Don't get us wrong though, we do still believe in the Bible which says that fellowship is still important! Much love 💕
It's very important to develop a relationship with God first. Church has it's place. We are the church, and we strongly believe that fellowship is necessary
Loved ones! God is raising you both for a purpose, not only for the Adventist church but for the entire body of Christ if they would receive it, you will go places for the Lord, I am praying for you, I love you dearly.🙏🏽
I stumbled upon your channel a few months ago and let me tell you I'm so inspired by your videos....your conversations are real...nothing fake....I love you both...
A question that is asked is "how are you doing"? They ask the question, but omg, they never stop to listen to the response. Persons need to be more intentional about listening and try to help rather than gossiping about young peoples mistakes and the family they come from. Loving the points guys...keep it up!
The how are you's without a trace....I wonder why ppl take it as a hello now a days, because they don't really want to know the answer. That is one of the reasons why a lot of people keep saying they are ok even when they are not.
I honestly love how transparent you guys are. It is so funny that the same set of people that welcome you to church are the same set to push you out when you don't see eye to eye with them. Alot of young people leave church because of criticism. Their growth in Christ sometimes threatens the older folks and so they begin to find fault with every you do.
@@yaniqueboyd6184 not a Adventist either, but can totally relate. These issues are not denominational ; youths right across the churches are struggling and it's very sad.
Boy the 2 a uno is double blessing from God. I'm so happy for the pair. I hope you guys know that the work you're doing here is appreciated. And I pray when it gets too much or if you get overwhelmed, your spirits,minds and bodies are restored with strength and joy. Thank you for this safe space
The tears I cried watching this video, it is so serious. As a youth leader, I love seeing videos like this because everyone loves talking about why people leave but it is IMPORTANT to talk about solutions. Yo I love you both with a special love. I pray for you guys and thanks for this content. Keep it coming guys! 🙏🏾❤
Love this topic: I don’t live in Jamaica but one of the things we did as youth leaders in the past was to look for partnership with other churches. When a church is under resourced or they have smaller youth group it should be a priority to help build a bridge of connection. Community matters so much when competing with the vices of the world.
What I am about to say does not apply to all adults. However, I wish church mothers, fathers, aunt and uncle would be honest and open about their past youth lives. It would be so helpful to young people. Most times they act as if the mistakes that the youth are making they did not make them as well. Instead, they can share advise and counsel on how they overcame and forgetting to create a relationship with the youth. Also, as youth people we have to seek to cultivate a personal relationship with Christ, this will help us to be grounded.
This needs to be shared in all churches. Seriously needs a bigger forum. The wisdom that is coming from this young couple needs to be heard by everyone. Guys I am praying for you because you are needed at such a time as this. Stay bless🙏🤗🥰
I totally feel this topic you guys are speaking about, and I’m glad it’s being addressed on a wider scale. I’m one of the few youths that still attend my assembly, and in times I catch myself reminiscing of the times when I had my fellow peers there worshiping together. We were just on fire for God, but then when we started to be more active, more pressure came along as well as judgment of what to wear, what to say, and what to do. I totally understand what is being said when it’s sad to see the young people gone, because that’s how I feel every time I step back in my assembly, and wish we were back in those times when we were all together. But now I want to make the difference, and start calling the youth back and bring back up the ministry. I want the youth to remember who they are in Christ regardless what the saints may have to say about us. LET US LIVE FOR JESUS AND HIM ALONE. I want to keep the fire burning and become change. Please pray my strength because I had this thought for a while, and before I thought I wasn’t equipped to do it. But as long as I have the Lord on my side, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Thank you for this video, keep on pushing out content that is not normally discuss in the church because the people NEED to hear this. God’s blessing on you both
You definitely can do all things through Christ. THANK YOU so much, for staying, for standing up and for calling out your friends in need! Much love and blessings!
There is a lot of love in the Church, I often hear that young people leave because they are not involved so how do we strike a balance. Growing up in the Church, we were happy to be involved, I was shy and the Church helped to build my confidence.
I cant stop telling people about you guys thanks to my friend shana Brissett for the introduction.. while watching a video i got a notification 😆 i just Switch over, because.... yesterday i started watching from 10 a.m. to about 9:30 last night.. yes i got time because i am sick Leave.. lol.. may the lord bless your unión..... you guys are such blessings.!! Love your ministry! Yes ministry.. this start here.... i will share with as much young people as i can. Just beautiful..
lol awwww, this made us smile! Thank you so much for watching and being a part of the family. We're grateful that you gave us some time from your sick leave!
I'm a backslider, and i admire you both. Hearing Zan addressing all these things I cried knowing these are all things I encountered in Church. 😔😔😔😔 I Slipped and instead of persons in church help me to rise the condemn me!!!! I'm so happy I found this channel, I too feel like I can make it. I'm a new subscriber I hope I'm still welcomed to the family even though I'm a backslider.....
We welcome you with open arms. We really hope you'll be able to see God's light through the content we share and also through the comments, because the community here is really and very supportive.
I was once a backslider because of church hurt.... They condemn me, put me soooo low I don't think it can get any lower because of the mistakes I was making at the time, what hurt the most was when a member of a certain church I use to visit told me that God will kill me by night because I was full of pure sin in their eyes but thank God I know God for myself.....
Can I just take the time to thank you guys for consistently posting videos for your xyz tribe? I enjoy watching each week. And I try to PaiTieNtLY wait for these videos. They really do feel like I’m having a conversation with you aswell.
Me as a young person who came into the church around 14 or 15 God spoke to me about the sda church in a dream and after I got convinced I knew a friend of mine who was Adventist and I ask her if I could come to church with her ok Saturday after going to church with her she was holy in church but outside she was a different person and me as a new convert about couple week could have follow her and go back to who I was but God she me that he lead me here and I’m have to see and experience certain things but never follow but to trust him but I pray that God lead her and open her eyes
And another thing too fellow youths, even if you leave your home church or the church you were previously going to, don't leave God. Because at the end of the day, it's gonna be between you and Him
Guys you are true about your number one, it is too much in the churches and it turns s people away. I am 43 years old and I think for is reading the word of God with wisdom and understanding not that you don't need to hear from other we do because you understand more with something. I have a daughter which is 15 years old have to change church because these elders criticized hear and teach her on her level.
Early gang it's the thumbnail for me loving you all videos I'm all the way in Grenada and I'm a young christian going on 10 years in the Lord and couldn't of found you all at a better time I'm really blessed
Hi guys love the topic. The truth is we don't have a culture where we are vulnerable. We hide some things because we don't know if it would be acceptable. How would people look at us after we disclose. So we protect ourselves.
You two please stay so sensitive/discerning and wise!! I thank God for you both!! Pray that you both stay in God's presence and continue to pray together always!
I thank God for my pastor. We are given the chances to ask any questions. He is just down to earth and this allow our young persons to always be willing to open up to him.
X andZ thanks for this your conversation....all so true Great Pretenders...so call christian...one day christian...young christian you too have a voice..a positive voice..Thanks XyZ❤❤🙏
I have been blessed 🥹 by this topic, I’m currently going through this with my church ⛪️ rn. Getting this views and points really helps to see it’s not over and it’s a part of the Christian process and also shows that we can change the cycle or help those who are having same feelings…. I appreciate you guys💕 looking forward for more content and transparency! Keep doing the lords work!
Listen! I was one of those overburdened youths leading two ministries in one year, dealing with little support and a great amount of criticism. Look, God knew how much I wanted a personal relationship with Him, He literally took me out and moved me to another country. I had two years of alone time with God, my Sabbaths have never been better and my relationship with God has never been stronger. These factors are so serious and they need to be addressed. Thank you guys for addressing these things. 👏👏👏
Great comments. When I was a teen in church, the older generation fed us spiritually and socially while allowing us to grow and bring our gifts in the church...we did drama, outreach, sports, trips, etc. As we grew, my generation, now 20s, reached back and nurtured the younger generation and mentored them. They in turn grew up and took our place as they became early 20s. They used their gifts, skills, talents, intellect ND even education to enhance the mission of the church and it was awesome. That generation reached back and mentored the one coming behind. And they were invited to use their gifts, skills with technology and creativity to move the church forward. I even spoke with many of the Gen Ys and Gen Zs. And I reminded them, that our church is very open to doing new things. Older members are not to up to date with new ways to do ministry that is why the church is open to let the youth use their Godly crerivities to do things differently. When I was a youth in church, my Pastors let my generation do some cutting edge stuff that were a bit radical but within Biblucal guidelines. We broke away from tradition and the church stayed vibrant for decades. The generation after mine, did the same thing. They brought their creativity and shook things up and again, the church thrived. Something happened after that. In speaking with the youth and reminding them that it's now their turn to implement new ideas of ministry, they were not interested. . I can't tell you how many of them I spoke with about changing the way we "do church." They just weren't interested in being a part of change.. Thankfully some stayed and they have changed the way ministry is done. But the vast majority are gone. Another perspective is worthy of note..... all the reasons given in the video have always existed. I have personally experienced them. The reasons are real, but are not new. There is another side worth considering also. When the world is more attractive than Jesus, we are drawn away.. just another side to consider. People may be drawn back to church if it has a more secular feel that looks more like the world, but real transformation only occurs when Jesus alone is lifted up,...He draws men to Himself. Blessings fam
Thank you so much for taking the time out to share such a well worded comment . I love that you mentioned the fact that people came back and poured into those that are there. We definitely spoke about the fact that sometimes the world is just so much more attractive in Part 2. Ultimately, the onus is on us to want Holy things, to want to learn more about God and to develop our relationship with Him!
After part 2 of this conversation is uploaded im going to do a sabbath school lesson on this. Thanks so much for bringing up this issue. Blessings and as always love u both.
Thank you for your transparency. This definitely needs to be discussed. Many young and old have left the church and continuing to hold onto their relationship with God. Continue to encourage and have these honest conversations. You are helping to heal those that have been hurt by people in the church. Sometimes it's hard to remember that just as sick people go to the hospital for physical afflictions, the same people come to the church for spiritual sickness. I love your content. God bless you both.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😊💕❤️🇨🇦🇯🇲🇹🇹
I know the feelings Zhara.....You are helping many elievers including me who have been lost and feeling like all hope is lost or feeling unappreciated......Blessings
We're so happy to be of value to your journey. If we never question our friends, how do we get to know them better? We use to hear that a lot too , and it comes from good intentions, but also from a place of fear and not truly understanding the character of God
Thanks so much for watching !❤️ We think it'll reach far more on RUclips than it being a sermon on a pulpit lol . But , just in case you want one, there is a sermon we recommend. It's called "it's Our fault" -Revision church
Number one point is so true and sad at the same time . We have to remember as you both mentioned that wherever we go in this world (work, school etc) there will be judgement and hypocrisy, so if we can tolerate it at work because we need the money ,we can tolerate it at church in order to grow to the level we ought to as we are all imperfect beings working towards perfection.
You guys are cracking me up...I have experienced so much of what you are saying. I just enjoy your realness when people tired they are just tired...I like the recommendations help while you can...
Hello XyZ, I thank God for you two and for starting this channel. I love this topic and you are so correct about the two face and hypocrisy among church folks.. Some of the older saints and/ or seniors need to remember they weren't always save and need to keep it 💯 with the younger generation. Thank you! God bless you always. "Keep it real" Love it.
I am in my fifties...why am I even listening.LOL I am addicted.I love you guys so. I keep listening to your posts over and over...mi soon can recite...word for word...Lol. You are called for such a time as this. God bless unno❤❤❤
I really like your openness and the challenging topics that you guys are tackling. Praise God for you. While I agree with many of your points on this topic, I just want to add that some young people leave the church because they just want to. No matter what the church or their families do they wouldn’t stay. Also, some young people leave because of what’s happening or not happening in their Adventist homes and the church can’t be blamed for that. My point is, while the church holds some responsibility for some people leaving, it does not hold all the responsibility for all the people leaving. Great site, love the contents. God bless!
Listen mi nuh man!!! That part about the fluff of programs and unnecessary things is sooo true. I’ve always said this. I feel like the church is too rigid in trying to maintain the same “protocols” that serve no purpose just because “is suh wi always do it”.
Thank you guys for your learning skills that you have imparted to us adult and young people, you motivated me and your list/topics are so true in today's world as it was back in those years (backwards teaching /learning) especially if you come from a poor family and trying to make it to the top .
This is video is a inspiration to me an you guys spoken on alot of things that I have been through with church and church work and stuff them not impacting myself in anyway or form.
Not a seventh day Adventist, but this topic hit home got pregnant in church didn't stopped going but the feeling I got when I went withy belly wasn't nice.
On point 💯 I agree on these points especially when there aren’t much persons at church and they wanna run it like the regular with 1 person doing 5 things. It’s burdensome and that’s when you start to think that the following week you are gonna go to the next church or u wanna do less things in church.
Amen young couple , maybe you and other like minded couples can help keep the younger ones in rhe church. Some of the older folks can be so hard hearted and stubborn. Forgetting they were once young.
The church has to teach these young people the truth...This generation is 7 times smarter then most elders in the church. In addition They’re “Awake” to the reality’s in this world.
Thank you so much for speaking extensively on this topic. I pray that the church will wakeup to the reality that the older Christians owe it as a responsibility to encourage the youth. Love you both. Keep loving God. God bless you and prosper His work in your hands in Jesus Name 🙏.
I left my church because of classism. We were treated poorly because we were extremely poor. What hurt me the most even now is the fact that these people discouraged my mother from sending me to high school because " she couldn't afford it". I should follow her yo do "days work" or sewing. My mom defied the odds and tried her best to send me to school. For me this is not or should not be the role of the church. I left the church but maintained a relationship with God. This relationship took me through the many obstacles during my educational journey. I still can't understand how I went through but God was with me.
So sorry about Your experience..
Pray u forgive them and move on....dont ever allow anyone or anything to stop You live the life God has purposed you for👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾You are fearfully and Wonderfully made 🙏🏾💞
I’m so sorry beloved
@@nikkic2710 thank you. I am trying to do that. I am still wondering if I forgave them because it still hurt so much. But you know what God helped me to graduate as the top student in my batch. I am considering praying and fasting about the situation though as I need to move pass this
@@shanicewhitely thank you. I used it as a motivation
@@alleidafoster1596 ....amazing idea...dont allows this to take away from You...love always💞
I love this conversation. I have lost my relationship with the church but thankfully I have not lost my relationship with God.
I can relate. This conversation is awesome. Me leaving my church and the reason for doing was forefront in my thoughts this week. I am happy that we are able to have a relationship with God despite not being apart of a particular church. I think Zhara spoke in a prior vlog about the importance od developing such a relationship.
We're really glad that you still have a relationship with God. Don't get us wrong though, we do still believe in the Bible which says that fellowship is still important! Much love 💕
It's very important to develop a relationship with God first. Church has it's place. We are the church, and we strongly believe that fellowship is necessary
Yes yes yes
This was spot on!! So grateful to see a young couple sharing truth in this way!
Thanks so much for watching !❤️
Loved ones! God is raising you both for a purpose, not only for the Adventist church but for the entire body of Christ if they would receive it, you will go places for the Lord, I am praying for you, I love you dearly.🙏🏽
I stumbled upon your channel a few months ago and let me tell you I'm so inspired by your videos....your conversations are real...nothing fake....I love you both...
A question that is asked is "how are you doing"? They ask the question, but omg, they never stop to listen to the response. Persons need to be more intentional about listening and try to help rather than gossiping about young peoples mistakes and the family they come from. Loving the points guys...keep it up!
This is true!
The how are you's without a trace....I wonder why ppl take it as a hello now a days, because they don't really want to know the answer. That is one of the reasons why a lot of people keep saying they are ok even when they are not.
I honestly love how transparent you guys are. It is so funny that the same set of people that welcome you to church are the same set to push you out when you don't see eye to eye with them. Alot of young people leave church because of criticism. Their growth in Christ sometimes threatens the older folks and so they begin to find fault with every you do.
Ahhh, this is so true!
For real I love the transparency. I look forward to the videos because of the transparency . I am not an adventist but still can relate
Exactly soooo!!!!!
@@yaniqueboyd6184 not a Adventist either, but can totally relate. These issues are not denominational ; youths right across the churches are struggling and it's very sad.
Boy the 2 a uno is double blessing from God. I'm so happy for the pair. I hope you guys know that the work you're doing here is appreciated. And I pray when it gets too much or if you get overwhelmed, your spirits,minds and bodies are restored with strength and joy. Thank you for this safe space
We appreciate you Aliyah!
The tears I cried watching this video, it is so serious. As a youth leader, I love seeing videos like this because everyone loves talking about why people leave but it is IMPORTANT to talk about solutions. Yo I love you both with a special love. I pray for you guys and thanks for this content. Keep it coming guys! 🙏🏾❤
Solutions are the only way we'll be able to move forward
I admire and love you guys so much, and as Christian I tend to learn a lot from your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing guys, I’m inspired 👏👏✅💯
We will!
Love this topic: I don’t live in Jamaica but one of the things we did as youth leaders in the past was to look for partnership with other churches. When a church is under resourced or they have smaller youth group it should be a priority to help build a bridge of connection. Community matters so much when competing with the vices of the world.
Agreee💯💯💯
Different agree, and happy sabbath
This is a very good suggestion. We really hope it helps a church in need
What I am about to say does not apply to all adults. However, I wish church mothers, fathers, aunt and uncle would be honest and open about their past youth lives. It would be so helpful to young people. Most times they act as if the mistakes that the youth are making they did not make them as well. Instead, they can share advise and counsel on how they overcame and forgetting to create a relationship with the youth. Also, as youth people we have to seek to cultivate a personal relationship with Christ, this will help us to be grounded.
Very good suggestion Andrea!
This needs to be shared in all churches. Seriously needs a bigger forum. The wisdom that is coming from this young couple needs to be heard by everyone. Guys I am praying for you because you are needed at such a time as this. Stay bless🙏🤗🥰
I totally feel this topic you guys are speaking about, and I’m glad it’s being addressed on a wider scale. I’m one of the few youths that still attend my assembly, and in times I catch myself reminiscing of the times when I had my fellow peers there worshiping together. We were just on fire for God, but then when we started to be more active, more pressure came along as well as judgment of what to wear, what to say, and what to do. I totally understand what is being said when it’s sad to see the young people gone, because that’s how I feel every time I step back in my assembly, and wish we were back in those times when we were all together. But now I want to make the difference, and start calling the youth back and bring back up the ministry. I want the youth to remember who they are in Christ regardless what the saints may have to say about us. LET US LIVE FOR JESUS AND HIM ALONE. I want to keep the fire burning and become change. Please pray my strength because I had this thought for a while, and before I thought I wasn’t equipped to do it. But as long as I have the Lord on my side, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Thank you for this video, keep on pushing out content that is not normally discuss in the church because the people NEED to hear this. God’s blessing on you both
You definitely can do all things through Christ. THANK YOU so much, for staying, for standing up and for calling out your friends in need! Much love and blessings!
There is a lot of love in the Church, I often hear that young people leave because they are not involved so how do we strike a balance. Growing up in the Church, we were happy to be involved, I was shy and the Church helped to build my confidence.
I cant stop telling people about you guys thanks to my friend shana Brissett for the introduction.. while watching a video i got a notification 😆 i just Switch over, because.... yesterday i started watching from 10 a.m. to about 9:30 last night.. yes i got time because i am sick Leave.. lol.. may the lord bless your unión..... you guys are such blessings.!! Love your ministry! Yes ministry.. this start here.... i will share with as much young people as i can. Just beautiful..
Girl I was checking yesterday for a new video then I remembered I got to wait for Friday . I love them so much.
I know right .
lol awwww, this made us smile! Thank you so much for watching and being a part of the family. We're grateful that you gave us some time from your sick leave!
My favorite young couple God blessings always 🙏
I'm a backslider, and i admire you both. Hearing Zan addressing all these things I cried knowing these are all things I encountered in Church. 😔😔😔😔 I Slipped and instead of persons in church help me to rise the condemn me!!!! I'm so happy I found this channel, I too feel like I can make it.
I'm a new subscriber I hope I'm still welcomed to the family even though I'm a backslider.....
Your welcome sweetie. It's lovely over hear. I pray the video help u along your path.
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We welcome you with open arms. We really hope you'll be able to see God's light through the content we share and also through the comments, because the community here is really and very supportive.
I was once a backslider because of church hurt.... They condemn me, put me soooo low I don't think it can get any lower because of the mistakes I was making at the time, what hurt the most was when a member of a certain church I use to visit told me that God will kill me by night because I was full of pure sin in their eyes but thank God I know God for myself.....
The body of Christ must remember satan is a deceiver, he’ll use people in the church to derail us, we must stay focused on God & His word🙏🏽🔥🙌🏽
Very up lifting keep up the good work
Thanks so much
A topical issue faced in every church, and its something that needs to be attend to.
Facts!
Man🙇♂️appreciate uno so much! This feels like a safe space and i love and appreciate that 💯❤
We appreciate you!
Very profound xyz
Can I just take the time to thank you guys for consistently posting videos for your xyz tribe? I enjoy watching each week. And I try to PaiTieNtLY wait for these videos. They really do feel like I’m having a conversation with you aswell.
Our pleasure!
Me as a young person who came into the church around 14 or 15 God spoke to me about the sda church in a dream and after I got convinced I knew a friend of mine who was Adventist and I ask her if I could come to church with her ok Saturday after going to church with her she was holy in church but outside she was a different person and me as a new convert about couple week could have follow her and go back to who I was but God she me that he lead me here and I’m have to see and experience certain things but never follow but to trust him but I pray that God lead her and open her eyes
Wow, this is deep!
Heading over to watch Part 2 🏃♀️
And another thing too fellow youths, even if you leave your home church or the church you were previously going to, don't leave God. Because at the end of the day, it's gonna be between you and Him
You two hit the nail right on the head.. Toxicity in church is very rampant..Help us Lord..🙏🏽🙏🏽
AMEN. Bro questions for God are just an invitation to seek Him out more.
Facts!
Guys you are true about your number one, it is too much in the churches and it turns s people away. I am 43 years old and I think for is reading the word of God with wisdom and understanding not that you don't need to hear from other we do because you understand more with something. I have a daughter which is 15 years old have to change church because these elders criticized hear and teach her on her level.
😢😢this brings tears to my eyes because you are telling the truth. I think enough Is not been done to draw and keep the young people closer to christ.
Early gang it's the thumbnail for me loving you all videos I'm all the way in Grenada and I'm a young christian going on 10 years in the Lord and couldn't of found you all at a better time I'm really blessed
Aww, We appreciate you Thyesha!
“Sometimes you need to learn to meet people at their heart” THIS 👏👏👏
Xy I cried wen u cried..everything you guys said in this is oh so true
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Beautiful sceenary!
Hi guys love the topic. The truth is we don't have a culture where we are vulnerable. We hide some things because we don't know if it would be acceptable. How would people look at us after we disclose. So we protect ourselves.
This is facts!
You two please stay so sensitive/discerning and wise!! I thank God for you both!! Pray that you both stay in God's presence and continue to pray together always!
We really appreciate it ❤️
My favourite young couple! Great topic
Love you guys for being real and authentic!
I thank God for my pastor. We are given the chances to ask any questions. He is just down to earth and this allow our young persons to always be willing to open up to him.
Love love this! We’ve had pastor like that too!
X andZ thanks for this your conversation....all so true Great Pretenders...so call christian...one day christian...young christian you too have a voice..a positive voice..Thanks XyZ❤❤🙏
I love you guys so much for your realness and practicality. Continue to allow God to use you to minister via this medium.
Thanks you. This message needed to be talk about! God bless
Love this video,everything is on point so true👏👏👏👏👏
I have been blessed 🥹 by this topic, I’m currently going through this with my church ⛪️ rn. Getting this views and points really helps to see it’s not over and it’s a part of the Christian process and also shows that we can change the cycle or help those who are having same feelings…. I appreciate you guys💕 looking forward for more content and transparency! Keep doing the lords work!
That's my stress in the Church,that's why i start visiting other churches
Listen! I was one of those overburdened youths leading two ministries in one year, dealing with little support and a great amount of criticism. Look, God knew how much I wanted a personal relationship with Him, He literally took me out and moved me to another country. I had two years of alone time with God, my Sabbaths have never been better and my relationship with God has never been stronger. These factors are so serious and they need to be addressed. Thank you guys for addressing these things. 👏👏👏
-cues music- When God get's ready you gotta move! Thanks for sharing
@@adventuresofxyz22 Fax hun Fax. To those out there burdened by church work, please remember your personal relationship with God is most important.
You are both right for each other
This needs to be a whole Sabbath school or AY program in the different churches..
Very relevant topic guys. 💕
Honestly! Thanks for watching Toya! -Z
Great comments. When I was a teen in church, the older generation fed us spiritually and socially while allowing us to grow and bring our gifts in the church...we did drama, outreach, sports, trips, etc.
As we grew, my generation, now 20s, reached back and nurtured the younger generation and mentored them. They in turn grew up and took our place as they became early 20s. They used their gifts, skills, talents, intellect ND even education to enhance the mission of the church and it was awesome.
That generation reached back and mentored the one coming behind. And they were invited to use their gifts, skills with technology and creativity to move the church forward.
I even spoke with many of the Gen Ys and Gen Zs. And I reminded them, that our church is very open to doing new things. Older members are not to up to date with new ways to do ministry that is why the church is open to let the youth use their Godly crerivities to do things differently.
When I was a youth in church, my Pastors let my generation do some cutting edge stuff that were a bit radical but within Biblucal guidelines. We broke away from tradition and the church stayed vibrant for decades. The generation after mine, did the same thing. They brought their creativity and shook things up and again, the church thrived.
Something happened after that. In speaking with the youth and reminding them that it's now their turn to implement new ideas of ministry, they were not interested. . I can't tell you how many of them I spoke with about changing the way we "do church." They just weren't interested in being a part of change..
Thankfully some stayed and they have changed the way ministry is done. But the vast majority are gone.
Another perspective is worthy of note..... all the reasons given in the video have always existed. I have personally experienced them. The reasons are real, but are not new.
There is another side worth considering also. When the world is more attractive than Jesus, we are drawn away.. just another side to consider.
People may be drawn back to church if it has a more secular feel that looks more like the world, but real transformation only occurs when Jesus alone is lifted up,...He draws men to Himself.
Blessings fam
I applaud you for this comment... It is sooo solid and profound as a youth myself.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to share such a well worded comment . I love that you mentioned the fact that people came back and poured into those that are there. We definitely spoke about the fact that sometimes the world is just so much more attractive in Part 2. Ultimately, the onus is on us to want Holy things, to want to learn more about God and to develop our relationship with Him!
After part 2 of this conversation is uploaded im going to do a sabbath school lesson on this. Thanks so much for bringing up this issue. Blessings and as always love u both.
Aww go for it! Much love!
Thank you for your transparency. This definitely needs to be discussed. Many young and old have left the church and continuing to hold onto their relationship with God. Continue to encourage and have these honest conversations. You are helping to heal those that have been hurt by people in the church. Sometimes it's hard to remember that just as sick people go to the hospital for physical afflictions, the same people come to the church for spiritual sickness. I love your content. God bless you both.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😊💕❤️🇨🇦🇯🇲🇹🇹
Beautifully said Natasha. Thanks so much for watching, we truly appreciate it❤
I wish I could like this a million times.
It is really beautiful how very wise the two of you are at your age. You are really a blessing to the Kingdom of Heaven.
We appreciate it!
Wow, these ponts are very strong guys,love it,(I am learning)
We're happy that we all can learn together! Thanks for watching !
I know the feelings Zhara.....You are helping many elievers including me who have been lost and feeling like all hope is lost or feeling unappreciated......Blessings
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You guys are a blessing, your videos happen to come up on my feed, my granny use to tell me, “don’t question God”
We're so happy to be of value to your journey. If we never question our friends, how do we get to know them better? We use to hear that a lot too , and it comes from good intentions, but also from a place of fear and not truly understanding the character of God
Love the conversation, the truth is I didnt know I would live to experience TOXICITY In The Church....Lord ! Help us🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
age 50 nuff and am bawling out my eyes wow may Gid continue to guide you as you win souls for the kingdom
Great topic👏🏽
Thanks for watching
Wish I could give 10000000000 round of a plause‼👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 SOLID conversation! Needs to be a sermon on a pulpit. 👏🏿👏🏿😊😊
Thanks so much for watching !❤️ We think it'll reach far more on RUclips than it being a sermon on a pulpit lol . But , just in case you want one, there is a sermon we recommend. It's called "it's Our fault" -Revision church
Great discussion 👍
Love this conversation
You guys are so real. It's amazing. keep up the good work. God bless.
You guys are speaking from the heart continue you will only get better
I’m a small RUclipsr, glad to connect with you all, great Christian couple🙏🏽🔥🙌🏽
U 2. I am GLUED.😍😍
Welcomeee🥰🥰
Number one point is so true and sad at the same time .
We have to remember as you both mentioned that wherever we go in this world (work, school etc) there will be judgement and hypocrisy, so if we can tolerate it at work because we need the money ,we can tolerate it at church in order to grow to the level we ought to as we are all imperfect beings working towards perfection.
I love that you’ve included solutions.
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You guys are cracking me up...I have experienced so much of what you are saying. I just enjoy your realness when people tired they are just tired...I like the recommendations help while you can...
😊 thank you
Jamaica is so beautiful and I can't wait to visit and meet you guys
We love our country! You should definitely come!
Love this topic , continuing share your content beautiful and lovely .
Love this conversation point #1 is on point.
Thank you so much 🤗
You guys are at Columbus park in Discovery Bay
Hello XyZ, I thank God for you two and for starting this channel. I love this topic and you are so correct about the two face and hypocrisy among church folks.. Some of the older saints and/ or seniors need to remember they weren't always save and need to keep it 💯 with the younger generation. Thank you! God bless you always. "Keep it real" Love it.
Thanks so much for watching !❤️
Great topic guys!
That pride and insecurities point is a whole sermon enuh. This video? 🔥Every single point is on point. No lies detected. Bless God.
I am in my fifties...why am I even listening.LOL
I am addicted.I love you guys so.
I keep listening to your posts over and over...mi soon can recite...word for word...Lol.
You are called for such a time as this.
God bless unno❤❤❤
No worries aunty, this conversation Is here for us all! lol thanks so much for watching and being a part of the family!
Awesome episodes.
I really like your openness and the challenging topics that you guys are tackling. Praise God for you. While I agree with many of your points on this topic, I just want to add that some young people leave the church because they just want to. No matter what the church or their families do they wouldn’t stay. Also, some young people leave because of what’s happening or not happening in their Adventist homes and the church can’t be blamed for that. My point is, while the church holds some responsibility for some people leaving, it does not hold all the responsibility for all the people leaving. Great site, love the contents. God bless!
Yes and we definitely cover that in Part 2 of this video. Thanks for sharing!
Listen mi nuh man!!! That part about the fluff of programs and unnecessary things is sooo true. I’ve always said this. I feel like the church is too rigid in trying to maintain the same “protocols” that serve no purpose just because “is suh wi always do it”.
I definitely can relate to the overwork and wanting to be in a space where You just relax that’s definitely me
What I do every now and then I’ll send a lil text reminding them that I’m here praying for them and also encouraged them to pray too.
This is being intentional Johnneal. Don't stop!
You two are so mature Spiritually...To God be the Glory!
We try 💕
Thank you guys for your learning skills that you have imparted to us adult and young people, you motivated me and your list/topics are so true in today's world as it was back in those years (backwards teaching /learning) especially if you come from a poor family and trying to make it to the top .
Thanks for watching 💕 💖
This is video is a inspiration to me an you guys spoken on alot of things that I have been through with church and church work and stuff them not impacting myself in anyway or form.
Not a seventh day Adventist, but this topic hit home got pregnant in church didn't stopped going but the feeling I got when I went withy belly wasn't nice.
It's definitely a Universal issue for sure
Really appreciated this video guys❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾😘
Love love love this ! 🙌🏾
On point 💯
I agree on these points especially when there aren’t much persons at church and they wanna run it like the regular with 1 person doing 5 things. It’s burdensome and that’s when you start to think that the following week you are gonna go to the next church or u wanna do less things in church.
Great points guys! 👍
Amen young couple , maybe you and other like minded couples can help keep the younger ones in rhe church. Some of the older folks can be so hard hearted and stubborn. Forgetting they were once young.
We do what we can for sure
The church has to teach these young people the truth...This generation is 7 times smarter then most elders in the church. In addition They’re “Awake” to the reality’s in this world.
Mi ole frenz... Hitting the nail on the head...
Mi affi share as alot of people need to hear this👍🏾
This is just pure fact God bless you guys .
Nice and put I don't taste no potato in when I bought it a few years ago
lol it's so good u should try it again!
Love this session and I took my piece out lol... I need PART 2 urgently !!!
Agreed
It's a Mighty Long Way Lord......💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
Hi , lovely couple. Your topic is relevant. What you have said is true. May God richly bless you. Love you guys. Praying for you always.
Wow, u both are on point. We the mature heads listen and make that change
Thank you so much for speaking extensively on this topic. I pray that the church will wakeup to the reality that the older Christians owe it as a responsibility to encourage the youth.
Love you both. Keep loving God.
God bless you and prosper His work in your hands in Jesus Name 🙏.