@UCNhaKsdAoacaGpgk-5NqjGw Then I suggest you all get together and figure out who's who. Until then, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
My son and his friends the mid 2000s while in High School wanted a counter balance to Christian Club at school. They wanted Pagan/Multi Religion Club. They wanted a space to discuss and debate and educate members in a variety of belief or lack there of, Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic, Wiccan, etc. A place ALL beliefs could come together in a safe space. They were immediately told they would need a teacher or administrator on campus to sponsor the Club. The kids asked EVERYONE and were consistently told no. Finally a teacher pulled them off to the side and privately and secretly let the kids know the truth, that all the educators were informed if anyone sponsored this club admin would find a reason to fire them. These teachers were threatened with firing! But Christian Club still continues to this day. It's shameful! The religious right push more and more people AWAY from religion by their behavior!
That is disgusting. I feel that your son, and friends, were in the right. Let's learn about each other and their beliefs. It leads to better understanding of one another, encourages unity, makes us a better society. Love and understanding bring us together.
@@PoochieCollins ONLY if the parents of those children can pony up a half a million dollars to take the case through to the SCOTUS... and depending upon the state, if they lose, they could be ordered to pay the legal costs of the school district. It takes a good bit of money to stand up for yourself, esp in court
Kelly, you don't understand words. An after school club isn't a religion, minors don't have the same rights until they're adults, and the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with anything. Just something else you're randomly mad at.
I'm a boomer and a Christian, but I don't believe in having ANY religious clubs in public schools. If you allow for ONE religious group, then you have to allow for ALL religious groups, regardless of the religion. It's not the public school's job to teach your kid a belief, that's you or your particular church's job.
No, it's no one's job to teach any belief. Children should be taught how to use critical thinking to come to their OWN beliefs. We have ways to discern truth from fiction and none of those methods are found in any religious texts. They're not foolproof by any means. Human beings are expert at deceiving themselves but if you use skepticism properly and consistently you can do pretty well.
@@makeupandtheology1821 What you think doesn’t matter. What you can demonstrate to be true does. Can you demonstrate any supernatural claim to be true?
That's an illogical conclusion, you can say that about most middle eastern countries too This is "typical religious bigots", America isn't the only place in the world with problems, we have to deal with ignorant people globally, they just need to be curtailed and reminded that everyone else's beliefs matter too
As someone who escaped a mild fundamentalist cult, I promise you wouldn't even have to make it "satanic." If you made it an "angel" club or a "mother earth" club, they'd lose their minds all on their own.
@@StruggleGaming Allowing them to unravel and come unglued publicly over an "angel" club or "mother earth" club would be so much fun though. Imagine trying to defend themselves at a school board meeting 😂 BUt tHE aNgELs!!! iTS iDoLAtrY!!!
@@redpillpusher you could argue that the more "mild" (or covert) one is, the scarier it gets, because it can't be reported 😔 I call it "mild" because it wasn't FLDS or Jonestown... But, there was definitely some terrifying and surreal nonsense going down.
Dave Barry pretty much summed it up when he wrote, "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them."
Thats a common phrase among pagan pedophiles. Those parents don't want libshit pedophiles sharing their satanic "views"with their kids. It's a 2 way street groomer.
My Dad used to let all religious door knockers in. He would offer them a seat, get them all a beer, then turn the sports up and watch his sports. On commercials he would go to the bathroom, then bring them a new beer regardless if they’d open it or not. After a while no one knocked on the door anymore. Which was a bummer, because it was really entertaining to watch how offended the knockers would get. I almost forgot, the louder they tried to talk the louder the tv would get.
ANNA! You're CORRECT! I have never seen a news report of a coalition of Rabbis and their followers protesting at a school board etc., over not forcing their religion on students.
As a Jew in the Baptist Bible Belt ,I’m constantly asked to defend my beliefs and why should THEY become Jewish. My response is always, Jews don’t proselytize and the only reason to become Jewish is because YOU want to.
My response is that they worship a Jewish man. Jesus was never anything but a Jew who practiced Judaism. So, just like his first non Jewish followers, they should convert to Judaism and become followers of the Nazarene. In the beginning, you were required to convert and followJewish law to become a follower of the Nazarene. Jesus was never a Christian. He was always a practicing Jew.
I worked for a US company in Canada and I saw a friend had an interesting pendant on their necklace and asked about it. She got nervous and stuffed the pendant into her shirt. I asked what I did wrong and I was sorry if I offended her with my question. She quietly explained that is was a Wiccan symbol and that she had recently been pulled into her bosses office as another person had seen it and made a complaint that it offended them. I was shocked as it was a neat design and had seen that several others on our team had crosses on necklaces and they werent asked to hide their beliefs. Im not a religious person but I am interested in learning about the beliefs of others and I asked another friend about thair faith (they happened to be Jewish) and was told that if we were overheard we could be written up or suspended if someone of the "christian" faith could complain that us talking was harrassment in the workplace. Cmon people we are all different and I choose to celebrate those differences. How boring would it be if we were all the same?
If we were all the same it would not take much time before you would be singled out because of the color of your eyes. Being different means that you are stronger in what you believe in yourself than what others believe as a group.
Nice story. You just make that up or are you writing a fiction novel? Lolz. It's pathetic that you make up Jewish fairytales for attention. Is that the latest fad at the synagogue? Did they make lampshades out of her too? Put it in your diary Ann frank
@@itsmaam a holocaust denier your other statements on this page make perfect sense now. You need to be treated like a German denier, forced to take the field trip to the sights in Germany and Poland that prove it. I am not Jewish but it upsets me to hear ppl like you deny it happened. It means you will try to repeat it here. We won’t allow that.
This was many years ago back in the early nineties. I had some Jahova's Witnesses come knocking on my door. I just told them that I worshipped the devil. They turned around and left without saying a word.
Hi F.Z.! Haha, I pretty much did the exact same thing; was early Two thousands “(oughts”) & 2 naïve & unsuspecting, yet programmed Mormons knocked on the door; I opened it & before they could proceed to impart their “good news” I beat ‘‘em to it, by promptly reciting the (spoken) intro to Iron Maiden’s “Number of the Beast”….(with deliberate slow creepy British horror movie actor’s voice & inflection, for added emphasis) Needless to say, they stood there in shocked silence, before turning on their Mormon heels; & swiftly making their getaway….. unforgettable classic moment!
This is great, but not quite the best I've heard: when I was a kid, a friend's aunt told me her story about finally getting the JW's to stop coming to her door. She was agnostic, and was so tired of being bothered that one day when there was a knock at the door and she noticed it was them, she quickly stripped completely naked before answering. They never came to her door again! 😂😂😂
These are the sam people who are outraged over school shootings and People like Darrell Brooks? A counterweight to a religion that promotes morality and love for your neighbor? Get your priorities strait? There is an actual Satan. Read the Bible. Truth exists even if you don’t believe.😊
As a devout Mormon I say all for one and one for all. I have no problem with this so long as it is not state-funded. We should all be free to decide for ourselves what spiritual path we follow.
I've lived in Tennessee, right in the Bible belt, for 5 years. After a year, my SUPER Christian neighbors next door learned I was an atheist and they started coming to bang on my front door to try to convert me several times a week. One day, after about 3 months, I told them to come inside and I started a religious debate with them and immediately showing them articles, videos, essays, etc. about how toxic and corrupt their religion has been and explained why I'm not just an atheist but an existentialist. I started saying that life is a meaningless trudge towards the inevitable abyss of death and morality is a double-sided construct built around hypocrisy to justify countless atrocities throughout human history. By the end, they both left sobbing and no one from any church has bothered me since.
Tennessean here too. I lived in Nashville for about a year and the JW were a bother. I asked them not to knock on my door, but they persisted, telling me they were worried about my "lack of faith" and just wanted to help me. 🙄 A couple of weeks later here comes the knock, just as I had gotten out of the shower. After I spotted them through the peephole, I opened the door, wearing naught but a smile and my pentacle. To give them credit, they attempted conversation for nearly a minute before beating a hasty retreat when I invited them in to discuss my "faith." I don't know if they knew I was a pagan or assumed I was a "satanist," but I never saw them again.
I had to answer my door naked and screaming with frustration after politely asking the JW people at least 10 times to stop knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday. They never knocked again 😁
@@VeracityLH A couple of Jehovah's Witnesses started atlking to me on the street. I politly told them "did you know that Adam had two wives? It's in the Bible" (which, cording to somew interetations,it is. Pretty soon, one started walking away, and the other started talking on a cell phone, clearly faking a call. They were tring to get rid of ME. I considered that a victory.
Even if they actually believed in Satan, their group should be allowed if laws allow religious groups in schools. In fact there are religious, non-violent satanic groups, who believe in a different version of Satan who is not the king of evil. I don't agree with having religious groups in public grounds, but if they're allowed, they should all be allowed.
The true problem here is that for many Evangelicals they embrace the idea that other Americans should NOT have the right to believe something else. It shows no understanding of the founding fathers and the principals upon which this country was founded.
@@eb1247 the christians in question are the degenerates here. And faith has no place in any decision making process. Only facts. Sit down before you get sat down, zealot. You can either join us in the 21st century or others will drag you there 🤷🏻♂️
@@eb1247 degeneracy and faith are not necessarily related. If you want to make that argument though, like a moron, then look at the prison system. Everyone there is Christian.
Yeah, I don't really care if a Christian club holds meetings on school grounds, but if you're allowing one religious exemption you've got to allow them all, even 'Satanists'.
But, but, My Religion is the correct religion because it's my religion! Therefore it's okay to force it on everyone because my religion is the right religion because it's my religion. Got all that?
So I'm pagan, I worship as my ancestors did. So when jehovah's witnesses came to my door, I would tell them, I'd be happy to listen about their faith, if they'd listen about mine. It was their fault if they assumed I was another type of Christian. Lol! Especially if it was younger people, or women...they sent elders to my house a couple of times, wanting to know what I had said to their youngins! Lol! True story! Lol! Namaste brothas and sistas😎✌💛🧡💜💙💚❤
@@LucareonVee when I start asking things like, if a woman bears life, then she lives closer to God then most men, so why are we second class citizens? The goddess is the oldest image of god that exists, why do you think that is? By the time the tea or coffee was made (many of them dont do caffeine, and I being a good kitchen witch always have good herbal teas😆), their expressions were priceless!😉 Had more than a few of their women ask me a lot of questions!😄😄😄 Peace my friend, and namaste 😎🙏💛🧡💜💙💚❤
I'm not a Pagan, but I used to tell the JW's that I was. They always just fled immediately. If they had asked me about my religion, I'm not sure what I would have said, but it never came to that. They just turned around and ran. I did have a kind of satanic looking door knocker so maybe that helped.
After school programs in public schools should focus on educational development (science, physical ed, arts, …) rather than religious beliefs. This from a Christian.
From the After School Satan mission statement: "Proselytization is not our goal, and we’re not interested in converting children to Satanism. After School Satan Clubs will focus on free inquiry and rationalism, the scientific basis for which we know what we know about the world around us."
@@fiercelytrans1599 then why not call it something religiously unrelated like oh I don't know, "Philosophy club"? Don't deny it, this did in part have religious symbology tied to it from the get go. You're not gonna name a group after a religious monarch like freaking lucifer unless you INTEDED to derive or pay homage to THE IDEA of lucifer or satanism. That would be like me opening a restaurant called "Leafy Greens" and strictly serving meat-only foods. You're being dishonest and trying (like the people defending this) to use plausible deniability in order to deny it and in addition make the ones against this look crazy. "It's about philosophy and science" my ass - then name the damned thing after Socrates or Nietzsche ! You know, ACTUAL philosophers. Bunch of liars
The uptight community i live in lost their minds over this coming on the Next Door app. I was like "If you get rid of the christian club. they will go away" Yet, they don't seem to get it. I love this groups approach. It's quite effective. Hail Satan!
people love their sin more than they love God and dont want to reminded of their sin until its too late and they find themselves in hell with an eternity of regret. Satan just want to keep you in the dark until your death...then it's too late. True Christians always end up persecuted as Jesus was for telling you the truth. Sinners hate truth just like I did
@@mikealessi7006 Awwww you’re so persecuted!! Poor you!! You can shove your flag up your dirty asshole sideways until you throw up stars and stripes. “God” doesn’t love anyone if he allows billions of people to suffer and die and torture them forever because they didn’t stroke his ego hard enough. Freaks like you are why we should reopen the asylums.
@@harrytan5579 when I wasn't saved I was in fear of hell. Now that I can trust the promises of God through his grace. Thats what faith is. Faith in his blood that paid the price of hell that I deserved.
It's not Christians that are called to hate its the world that hates God that judges sin. Jesus said: If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 15:19 KJV
As someone raised in the Christian church, and in a Jewish community, who left the church many years ago, let people worship whatever deity they want. Don't force your religion on me, and I won't force my agnostic belief on you. Back in the 90s, as a teen, I'd drop a hit or 2 of LSD and go in front of a goth club and have religious debates with street preacher Christians holding a 10ft cross telling people they're going to Hell for going into this club. It was always entertaining that my tripping mind would counter all their arguments using the Bible against them. I still do it now, except without the LSD
No, that's not true. Real CHRIST FOLLOWERS want to save others from going to hell. I can't speak for every Christian. Some really are hateful, not all of them, and you can't assume things. And the real hateful people of this world are the ones who try and blind people from the TRUTH....GODS WORD IS THE TRUTH. FACTS don't care about feelings. FACTS are real LOVE, and sugar-coated lies are hate. GOD IS LOVE and TRUTH. the devil is lies and deceive
@@kelquest1294 Save others by what means? By taking away a people’s culture, history and legacy? Assimilate them to your beliefs because you deem them savages? I speak of false prophets who say they believe in God, but don’t act or speak in a Godly manner. The evangelical pastors who thru donation to the Lord, buy multi million dollar homes and jet planes. The politicians who through God and country pass laws that enrich themselves and their overlords and have their acolytes do crimes for them. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say all Christians. Every Christian is given free will to choose their path.
@Ruben Rebenz culture, history legacy doesn't matter when the world passes. We take nothing with us when we die. JESUS isn't coming back to take sides he's coming back to take over, and GODS word will always be TRUTH the beginning and always. And that's on periodt. You're either with GOD or with the devil. There's no in-between. Saving people by telling to stop sinning and accept JESUS is the most loving way to save people because there is no other way. This world is Fallen and wicked and has an end. But GODS WORD LIVES ON FOREVER and that's the way it is. Being rich isn't going to save you being religious isn't going to save you. Thinking your doing good deeds is not going to save you. ONLY JESUS SAVES. the politicians and all that government stuff are with the devil and the left that rebels against GOD. GOD IS EVERYTHING. CHANGED MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER STILL IN BATTLE BUT I WILL ALWAYS HAVE FAITH.❤️🔥✝️
@@kelquest1294 The “christian” right uses God to fool their acolytes. Would Jesus be conservative or democrat these days. I know my faith doesn’t make me feel righteous over other people. They’ll choose their own path, be it heaven or hell.
@Ruben Rebenz GODS WORD IS EVERYTHING, EVERYONE NEEDS JESUS. THIS PLANET IS TOO WICKED AND FALLEN. I RATHER LISTEN TO GOD THAN MAN THAT ARENT FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. Don't come at me with bs at the end of the day FACTS ARE FACTS and it don't care about your feelings.
I am totally for all religions being banned in any public settings. If anyone wants to practice any religion it should be done in private setting. Also... As long as religions are heavily involved in capitalism then all religions should be taxed. No religion should be allowed to be tax free. Stop this nonsense.
@@OGCHUCK1 Not being a hypocrite at all and fuck anyone's feelings being hurt. Practicing religion in public places including schools or any government entity should be banned and should be a chargeable offense.
Same goes for the LGBTQ shit... keep that shit private, don't force your beliefs upon anyone else... keep those rainbow flags at ur home not in schools
@@OGCHUCK1 How in the world did you come up with that by what I said? Plus, any of my kids are smarter and stronger than that. you are a complete moron. If you had half a brain and a could up with somewhat of a logical argument I would be glad to debate you but it seems like your type just isn't debatable. Have a nice day.
This is an example of effective activism. FYI, the point is to upset people. They’d ignore a Spaghetti Monster Club, cause it’s funny and harmless. Ultimately, they will end the program in relation with the school and that is the goal.
My religious boss once said to me as a salesman for the company "every knock on the door is an opportunity" and in front of the whole office, I said "no sometimes it's just a Jehovah's Witness" he turned red a walked away.
I am atheist. I love this. And I *love* the branding! After School Satan has chased them out of some schools just by the threat of coming in; and the acronym ASS makes it impossible to dodge Satan that way. It's perfect.
So, many years ago. I decided to go to college. The college was located in Pittsburgh, PA. I moved in with my cousin. Who is a goth. His apartment was decorated accordingly. With skulls, and black curtains. The whole dark and dreary. There was one day I was home alone and the doorbell rang. I went to the door to find two Jehovah Dimbwitts. I greeted them and invited them in to talk. The two definitely seemed nervous as they took a seat on the couch. They were looking everywhere in abject horror. My quick thinking was to ask if they wanted some tea. They said yes. I went to the kitchen and grabbed the mortar and pestle on the shelf and returned to the living room pretending to be grinding tea leaves. Well on said mortar was a pentagram. I made sure it was facing the dimbwitts. I said" I think the water is almost ready" and returned to the kitchen. While in the kitchen I heard the door slam, to my surprise my guests had exited in quite a hurry. I about died laughing. To live your life in fear, especially of your "all loving god" is not life at all.
I unfortunately grew up in a extremely religious public school (probably why I was so f up growing up) but if there was a satanic club and I found out they were teaching science/rationalism instead of what my parents and church were telling me (rituals, dark magic, ect.) I probably would have come to the realization that they were insane much sooner and lived a much happier life. (I highly disagree with the host about the branding thing) branding it as a Satanic club is what gets the message out and gives more youth a bigger chance to expand their understanding of the world. Can not tiptoe around peoples extremism Otherwise it would just be like any other science or philosophy club
I wasn’t sure how I felt about whether branding it as satanism was a good idea or not, but you’ve explained it so eloquently I think you’re absolutely correct. So now I be like “what she said” 🤣😜
Probably should have called it the "Atheist Club" and leave it at that. Freedom of religion means having the choice not to believe. Proselytizing is the number one reason atheism and agnosticism are growing by leaps and bounds.
They can’t call it the atheist club. Atheists are not organized so they don’t meet the requirements of protection. They can’t get tax free status either. Best to poke them in the eye with Satan. They think they are out there so might as well give it to them. After all the point they are trying to make is trolling for converts among minors is crossing the line. Leave children alone at school.
@@enriquemosqueda5603 trying to convert other ppls children is what is wrong. Christianity is spreading hate, fear, and demanding we all convert, and live like them. We see you acting like Nazi, causing insurrection, burning books, and chasing our kids to join you in this fear/hate fest. The louder someone declares they are holy the closer you better watch them. Matthew 6: 1-12. They have their reward. Try reading and praying about the Bible. It is how I read my way out of hate.
My Mom is Jewish so supposedly I'm Jewish by birth. Jews have to work hard to learn hebrew and be able to read the torah. This happens when you're in middle school probably the most difficult part of your life growing up. I remember going to countless friends ceromonies and going to the Temple during certain events. Yeah it's a very small group of us but its good as you're part of a community. There is no real guilt in the religion or dogma I even went to Isreal and the wailing wall. I now live in Vietnam far away from the crazy preachers and religious zealots in the States. Its nice not to be constantly bothered by them.
We younger generations with children find it as funny as our real kids do. Also, wouldn't it be nice if Christians freaked out as much about how many kids we've lost in mass shootings?
I'm Christian, I believe in science, and I'm not mad at this. This club is testing the religious freedom of this school/court ruling, as they should. I do not want the US to become a theocracy. We've already seen what that looks like around the world.
When I was in elementary school, one of my friends invited me to the 'Good News Club'. Looking back, I can remember the level of indoctrination, shame, and fear, which was the reason I left Christianity as a young adult. Not a Satanist myself, I am a pagan, but since religious freedom is guaranteed by our Constitution, I totally get why they are providing an alternative to the idea that Christianity is the only and right path for everyone...
That’s all they do. They aren’t even Satanic. They’ll SAY they are if they think you are offended by that. But most religious people are too dumb to see past their own programmed mind to see what the ST does.
I guess it's all ones experience. I have friends who teach 'Good News Clubs' and they usually read a Bible story with pictures and felt board, sing a silly song, have a snack, and play a game. However, I'm also not really up in arms about the 'Satan' club. I agree with Cenk, that naming it that causes more controversy than needed, but I definitely think fair is fair
The thing I love about Paganism, is that while it is based on ancient beliefs and practises that are very different than Christianity, and if fact suffered death at the hands of Christians, it pursues its beliefs and cosmology in confidence without the need to put any other religion down or copy any other religion. That is a mature belief.
My family are Pagan too. My teen daughter was invited to one of her friend's youth groups at her church. I told her she could go but be warned that it would be preachy. He friend assured her it wasn't. It was. My kid declined any further youth group visits.
When I was in the fifth grade My mom started ordering books from this new encyclopedia series called man myth and magic One of the many encyclopedia sets she had bought us as kids they covered mythological all forms of magic and religion I can just imagine the reaction of some parents to these books today 🤣
never gonna happen - "Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastic Bodies may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in its short history" - James Madison (Father of the Constitution)
@@fuckyougeorgebush I keep six good serving men They taught me all I knew Their names are When, and What, and Where And Why, and How, and Who - Kipling
I’ve always been confused by how evangelicals act like Satan is more powerful than God. They panic and go absolutely insane over Satan. But isn’t God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent? Satan is none of those things according to their own Bible!?! Ignorance is a disease in these people.
Evangelicals always believe that thier enemies are both weak and strong. Its a part of their persecution complex. They NEED to feel always attacked even though their God is all powerful.
poor POOR xtians with their god so weak that gays OFFEND him!! poor POOR xtians with their god so insecure that he'll torture you for ETERNITY for not "believing" in him!! and.. poor POOR xtians with their god so "loving" that he'll drown the whole earth.. all its occupants.. including infants and animals.. just because he can that "god" is an IMORRAL THUG OF A MONSTER.. that "god" deserves ZERO praise or worship!! their "god" sounds more like satan than.. SATAN
I'm 65 years old. When I was in elementary school, a public school in southern Louisiana, we had what is called Catechism class at the end of the school day, for a half hour. Our school day ended at 3:15pm I was not a Catholic thus my parents did not agree to this practice. Thus I was allowed to leave school early each day... The area of Southern Louisiana is around 95% Catholic. Both my parents were raised Catholic, but they left their Catholic past after being married. My point is, the issue of religion in public schools goes back a long time. It has no place in a public school, not then nor now !
You can’t really ban it as a club at the school. But, it 100% shouldn’t be part of the curriculum. I actually remember Catechism class. It was so stupid, especially as a non-believing child (Catholic family). Even as a little kid, it all seemed so obviously made-up.
@@jaycol21 Religions have entire buildings for them to operate in. We call them, for example, Churches. There is no building for Chess, so we hold THOSE at school, but after hours.
@@markhackett2302 While I think it’s stupid, some kids ARE really into Jesus. If they want to form some little after school club to talk about it, there is no real reason to stop them. As long as they’re not coming at the LGBTQ kids or Non-Christian kids and aren’t trying to create rules for the other students, it’s fine. OPTIONAL after school clubs for your hobbies is a big part of the whole school experience. Chances are if you let the kids talk about it amongst themselves, they’ll probably start deconverting each other anyway…especially if they’re older kids in a mixed gender group. Don’t become the thing you hate in an attempt to fight it off.
Imagine going to the good news club after school… “So everything you’ve learned today is actually BS and you can get much better education from a magical sky daddy” 😂
Science cannot explain morality. The reason for keeping political and theological positions out of school is because schools SHOULD be objective. "Should" cannot be explained by science alone. The Nazis thought that they "should" euthanize the disabled because mathematically and scientifically speaking it makes sense to "humanely" eliminate them because if they breed they have more disabled children and the suffering in the world will be multiplied and continued but if we just euthanize them we can eliminate X amount of suffering in the world and less suffering = "good" and so actually the most "scientifically" "correct" decision is the eliminate the disabled and then the German people will have no disabilities, no more suffering, NOT euthanising them perpetuates MORE suffering. More suffering = "bad." Therefore us Nazis are politically "correct" we have "scientific" morality. Do you see the problem with this.
@@lordsoros627 and you think an evangelical organised school club is going to discuss morality from a wide perspective of both religious and non-religious cultures. I think the evangelicals have shown themselves exactly who they are over the last few years and are the last people you’d want to have lessons on morality from! Furthermore, just because people have scientific viewpoints doesn’t mean they disregard morality. The Enlightenment was full of philosophers who wrote on morality whilst rejecting Christian morality. Surely it’s at the core of what the Enlightenment was. Also, my original comment wasn’t really supposed to be a scholarly viewpoint. I was just laughing at the ridiculousness of what we all know the evangelicals teach
@@mdb3040 firstly I stated that theological and political opinions should be kept out of schools. Secondly I think you have a very narrow view of Christianity. Some of the most genius people in history were Christians, they have a long tradition of fine philosophical thinkers that gave much to the world and much can be learned from it and I say this as someone who is entirely agnostic. However as I stated there are some things that cannot be measured or understood by science and it is these places outside of science where a lot can be learned from Christianity, not to mention the fact that many of the most esteemed scientists and engineers of history were Christians themselves. Christianity and science are not mutally exclusive, Christians can do science too. As someone who is agnostic I see more of a threat from "scientism," broadly the material determinism that disregards everything but science and actually is itself in scientific. The Christians are not a threat. I think that you have seen too many videos of left wing click bait on channels such as this to the point that you have seen far more videos of crazy people who happen to be Christian, broadly speaking, saying crazy sh×t than you have met or seen normal Christians. The crazy Christians you see are such fringe examples. Again, I am not Christian but all this Christian bashing is getting boring now. We will NOT be returning to eccclestial rule anytime soon. However we already have god knows how many planks of the "10 planks" of the communist manifesto and socialism and scientism are running rampant from board room, to news desk to campus.
@@mdb3040 "surely it's a the core of the enlightenment...." To a point. The enlightenment wasn't an atheist product though, a lot of those philosophers were protestants, especially the English. The founding fathers were protestants, men of the enlightenment for sure. This is a big topic though. This is where the culture war comes from. The problems we face now are directly linked to the enlightenment. Some of the assumptions of the enlightenment are just not true. This is why socialism, while completely failing and being proved as ridiculous as it sounded, has not died out and still causes us problems. Although the English liberal order won the ideological battle about four of the broader assumptions of the enlightenment are simply false, like the "universal" man. These wrong assumptions basically allowed the communists and fascists to basically push at these weak spots and subvert liberalism. Until these assumptions are corrected socialism will always be able to push at them without resistance. That is why since the French revolution socialism has continually failed but never gone away, because of the four wrong assumptions of liberalism. The universal man. The man out of society. Democracy. Equality. The English common law actually redresses these but the wider accepted assumptions are throughout our society and system and so can be attacked. For instance "democracy is for the people, by the people...." This is simply not true. Democracy STILL leads to a political class. Equality. Men are not born equal, it is simply the truth. The English common law conception of fairness redresses this. Universal man, man out of time. This is basically blank slate theory, it is not true. Man out of society. Libralism assumes a man "before" society, more blank slate theory and a bit of social contract theory, this is simply not true. Man has NEVER existed outside of society, even monkeys have primitive societies. Until these assumptions are redressed the culture war will continue and it has been going for well over 300 years already.
When I used to work in retail, I would have people give me the Christian lines all the time. It made me feel uncomfortable so I wanted to share that discomfort, sharing is caring after all. So when they would ask me "Do you have Jesus in your heart" I would respond I am a Pastafarian (church of the flying spaghetti monster), Have you been touch by his noodly appendage. The look on their face is awesome
What are they crying about; they didnt cry about forcing prayer groups in schools and religious remarks on coins and auto tags. Even though the constitution clearly states that church and state are to be kept separate. So don't complain because you licked the tip of the poisoned arrow to see if it worked.
In the context that they think trump is the "Second Coming of Jesus", I understand where they are coming from. They have no critical thinking skills, "poorly educated" as trump likes to say.
IMO, in the USA “religion” is regional 🤔I was born and raised in NY but lived in Texas for a few years as a teenager. I don’t think I really understood what Christianity entailed until I lived in TX, and that is because I never experienced it before as we don’t have that level of religious zeal on Long Island. When I tried to explain that notion to the Uber religious Texans they could not grasp the concept that “religion”,worship,spirituality, varies. This caused parents to not allow their kids to hang out with me and it caused a lot of trouble in school. I was sent out of the classroom many a time for questioning my my English or History teacher was relating all of our assignments to the Bible …IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL!
Awful, keep religion out of public schools. The only reason these loonies want to bring it back, is that that’s how they can control children that’s all it is a bunch of bullshit
No babe. It's just that a lot of atheist get triggered when anyone says anything about God. There's almost always a comment, why? Just keep scrolling. I most definitely believe in God, and I've been blessed to have experienced supernatural occurrings. But what I DON'T do is force it down anyone's throat. I do also that think super religious folks need to chill on the judgment and be more accepting...like me ❤️
@@montamiddleton9318 🤣🤣🤣 you ok? No baby, a warning from AN ANGEL 5 minutes before a very very very close call with a semi truck. Because I received that warning, I was extra vigilant. It's something I'll never forget, and I could care less if anyone doesn't believe me. ❤️
As an atheists, all of these religious people just assume that we’re all angry and bitter. It’s actually Christians who are angry and insecure. They also assume we’re secretly Christian’s who prayed for something and did t get it, so now we’re just angry at god.
you know christians battle aganst evil, right ? i know you are stupid. i bet you dnt haw kids. just think you want your kid to go satan club? them maby come home and hit you whit hammer. or kill your pets. you know what happens people like that? they called psygopats.
@@samppasamFIN you obviously know nothing. Or the message these people are trying to point out. So here's my advice to you. Burn the Bible it's not illegal Christianity has no authority.
Makes no sense. Kids aren't captured and dragged into the Christian club after the school bell rings at the end of the day. People join the club if they want to.
@@X2LR8 The kids aren't dragged into going to the non-Christian clubs, either. So, why should the former be able to meet after school but not the latter?
The Christian: "How can you worship Satan?" The Satanist: "I don't. Satanists don't typically believe in a literal Satan. It's a metaphor." The Christian: "Well, then what do you call people who do believe in a literal Satan?" The Satanist: "Christians."
You can just say "Don't" instead of "Don't typically", there is no well-documented modern movement that worships satan who also actually call themselves satanists. The association of the word with any such group serves no real purpose other than propaganda when there are individual terms for the people who theistically worship Satan.
@shoulderutube It's not much of a feat to convince the world that an invisible man with superpowers who was created by a different invisible man with superpowers doesn't exist. Especially when the invisible creator is supposedly all powerful yet the created invisible being rules the world because....reasons? Oh and the invisible creator will torture you for eternity if you disagree with him, but he loves you!
@shoulderutube a pretty crap trick considering that the majority of the world's population subscribe to various forms of Abrahamic religion and as such believe Satan exists.
To the LW Christians who hate when TYT does these stories, I want you to know that YOU ARE VITAL to the political fight against RW Christo-Fascism in America with us! Please don’t be turned off by TYT’s secular take on these religious topics and try to understand the vital distinctions that make the Separation of Church & State SO IMPORTANT to preserving our democracy.
'Be good slaves and you will be rewarded in Heaven for eternity, but if you are bad slaves you will burn in hell for eternity'. Whoever invented Christianity was a genius.
I had a a white, southern, evangelical Christian missionary tell me that a verse in the New Tesatmant said that a slave shouldbe the best slave that he or she could possibly be. All that did is make me realize that I can not believe that everything in the Bible is true.
@@milascave2 I went to a small village school in the UK in the early 70's. Every morning we would have to sing a hymn and say a prayer. We even had to thank Ghods for our lunch and on Friday the local Rector would teach us Iron Age Fairy Tales (AKA the Bible). Fortunately I was intelligent enough to shuck off this mind programming.
@@johnnynephrite6147 I am the proud parent of a practicing pastafarian, so no dissin' at all! I love those guys. May you all be touched by his noodily appendage.
These are the seven tenets of TST. And is why I am a proud congregate. 1. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
My dad was like Ana's. As a devout atheist he made sure to know the bible inside out. He used to invite in any Mormon and Jehovah's Witness that came to our door and kept them "hostage" debating well over the time they wished to leave. Much to my dad's disappointment, they quickly learned to avoid our house. 😂
Ana's story about her dad reminds me of something that happened to me several years ago. Some JW came to visit and I engaged in conversation with them. Me being a rational atheist and making my points through asking them questions. Eventually they made an excuse that they had to leave and told me they would come back - I never saw them again. Guess me and her dad are of the same kind.
My Evangelical grandfather had regular visits from JW's, He would use reason and biblical knowledge to question their stance, and they would always leave a little disappointed, I think they used my Grandfather as a training aid for their new recruits.
When you apply logic, and ask questions that make them actually analysis what their saying, instead of blindly believing it, they have nowhere to go, except well “cos god said so”. Did he though? They’re the ones that believe in magical being and sorcery (miracles). Maybe one day, they’ll look back at what you said and hopefully start to question instead of blindly believing. I was brought up being told I could choose my own religion when I was old enough, so of course I’m an atheist. That’s why indoctrination of the young is so important to these ppl, asking questions and free thinking is portrayed as immoral
When my parents divorced, my sister and I lived with my mom, as was usual at that time, and she, being vulnerable, got into Jehovah's Witnesses...from when I was 7 until I had to leave home at 17 due to the unhappiness and abuse from them and an undiagnosed bipolar mom. She was not diagnosed until I was in my 40's. I was forced to do that door to door stuff every Saturday all morning literally, and Sunday after 3 hours of services, for another 2-3 hours. Not to mention meetings on Tues at someone's home for 2 hours, AND either Thurs or Fri nights for another 2 hours at the 'Kingdom Hall'. PLUS, you have to study and read the material prior, for all meetings, using either their books, or their magazines as reading/answering questions for those meetings. Those meetings consist of one of the elders reading the assigned material AGAIN, out loud from the stage, and asking the questions you should have studied for, and raising hands and answering aloud from the congregation. Regurgitating whatever they want you to learn, and drilling it into your heard several times in that week by repetition. HORRENDOUS..and expected to be doing your school homework, too. AND celebrate NO holidays...including your birthday. They claim it is a day to honor God for making you, not to honor your journey on the road. You get NOTHING to look forward to, nothing but 'eternal life on a paradise earth'...MAYBE....if you are deemed worthy apparently, as your goal. That's it. This life is to see if you deserve that vision. That always seemed off to me..even as a young child.
Sad to hear about all this. My daughters best friend has parents that are split up. The dad is Jahobos Witness. He is very mean and abusive… on top of not celebrating holidays or birthdays. Super sad situation
*I WOULD LOVE TO BE RELIGIOUS* I love the buildings, I love the singing, I love the ceremonies, I love the community, I love the believing that this sh!t world is not all there is... UNFORTUNATELY, I dont believe in the fictional guy in the sky...
@@dustinsindledecker154 - I was never brought up with religion - but the first thing I do in a new city is visit the holey building, they are always amazing
This is great and the only way to get rid of the intrusion of fanatical Christianity into public and governmental areas. Either everyone is represented or it remains neutral.
Freedom of Religion is the freedom to practice your beliefs, with the responsibility to allow other people to practice their beliefs. It isn't freedom of religion if you're "using it" to take away the freedoms of others. Freedom of Religion is personal. It's not about imposing your religion on others. It's about practicing it yourself. Anything else is just hypocrisy.
Well, first of all, they use Satan as a way to troll, but they also see the figure of Satan along the lines of Milton's Paradise Lost and Romantic Visionaries like William Blake...wherein the mythological figure represents rebellion against established systems of oppressive power and tyranny. So the "branding" goes much deeper than just trolling. And while I get Cynk's point, he needs to understand, that for those of us whom Christian religious supremacists dehumanize as "other" to such a degree that we fear for our safety, having Christian organizations supported and given a voice in the communities and schools we are apart of is likewise leaves us feeling extremely threatened. This is our reality. So, who gives a damn that these nutball religious supremacists feel "threatened" by a group of Atheists, Agnostics, LGBTQIA, etc. meeting up under the banner of "Satan" to support each other and get involved in political activism for a common goal of equity and equality under the law. Screw them.
As a kid of the 80's that had his after school DnD group run out of the school because of Christian half-wits, I fully support this.
@UCNhaKsdAoacaGpgk-5NqjGw Then I suggest you all get together and figure out who's who. Until then, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
I got kicked out of the good news club in the third grade for bringing my dads Magic the Gathering deck.
Small minds fear everything they don't understand
I distinctly remember the religious cults claiming Harry Potter was Satanism.
Equality is NOT what religious groups are actually about.
My son and his friends the mid 2000s while in High School wanted a counter balance to Christian Club at school. They wanted Pagan/Multi Religion Club. They wanted a space to discuss and debate and educate members in a variety of belief or lack there of, Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic, Wiccan, etc. A place ALL beliefs could come together in a safe space. They were immediately told they would need a teacher or administrator on campus to sponsor the Club. The kids asked EVERYONE and were consistently told no. Finally a teacher pulled them off to the side and privately and secretly let the kids know the truth, that all the educators were informed if anyone sponsored this club admin would find a reason to fire them. These teachers were threatened with firing! But Christian Club still continues to this day.
It's shameful! The religious right push more and more people AWAY from religion by their behavior!
This proposed club would be our RE class in the UK.
That is disgusting. I feel that your son, and friends, were in the right. Let's learn about each other and their beliefs. It leads to better understanding of one another, encourages unity, makes us a better society. Love and understanding bring us together.
@Gypsyart : where was this? On the upside, times have changed to where if that happened today it would roll the red carpet out for a lawsuit.
Christianity and Christians are so toxic
@@PoochieCollins ONLY if the parents of those children can pony up a half a million dollars to take the case through to the SCOTUS... and depending upon the state, if they lose, they could be ordered to pay the legal costs of the school district.
It takes a good bit of money to stand up for yourself, esp in court
Freedom of religion. It's a shame that they only recognizes the 2nd Amendment. They really don't understand what it means.
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Kelly, you don't understand words. An after school club isn't a religion, minors don't have the same rights until they're adults, and the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with anything. Just something else you're randomly mad at.
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Cool story, bro....
@@colonelcorbin Cool nothing comment because you couldn't think of one....Bruh.
@kyle the expert, destiny, says they are so delicate ATM that we need to treat them as if any trigger will set them off, ending their brain function.
I've read the entire bible, thats why I'm atheist
I'm a boomer and a Christian, but I don't believe in having ANY religious clubs in public schools. If you allow for ONE religious group, then you have to allow for ALL religious groups, regardless of the religion. It's not the public school's job to teach your kid a belief, that's you or your particular church's job.
That's what the folks who wrote the constitution believed in and for good reason!
No, it's no one's job to teach any belief. Children should be taught how to use critical thinking to come to their OWN beliefs. We have ways to discern truth from fiction and none of those methods are found in any religious texts. They're not foolproof by any means. Human beings are expert at deceiving themselves but if you use skepticism properly and consistently you can do pretty well.
It's better said by others I think. "Don't teach children what to think, teach them HOW to think.
I fundamentally disagree, I think Christianity can stand up in the marketplace of ideas.
@@makeupandtheology1821 What you think doesn’t matter. What you can demonstrate to be true does. Can you demonstrate any supernatural claim to be true?
Religion is allowed in schools................................ as long as it is MY religion. Typical America.
Nail on the head. And it's a bad idea
That's an illogical conclusion, you can say that about most middle eastern countries too
This is "typical religious bigots", America isn't the only place in the world with problems, we have to deal with ignorant people globally, they just need to be curtailed and reminded that everyone else's beliefs matter too
It’s so important we remind the extreme right that everyone else has the same rights they do.
I think the Christian right would have had the same reaction if there was an Islamic club
As someone who escaped a mild fundamentalist cult, I promise you wouldn't even have to make it "satanic." If you made it an "angel" club or a "mother earth" club, they'd lose their minds all on their own.
True
True.
But go for gold, I want one of them to have a heart attack just hearing about it.
wait ...what ...there's such a thing as "mild" fundamentalism ...isn't that technically an oxymoron 😂
@@StruggleGaming Allowing them to unravel and come unglued publicly over an "angel" club or "mother earth" club would be so much fun though. Imagine trying to defend themselves at a school board meeting 😂
BUt tHE aNgELs!!! iTS iDoLAtrY!!!
@@redpillpusher you could argue that the more "mild" (or covert) one is, the scarier it gets, because it can't be reported 😔 I call it "mild" because it wasn't FLDS or Jonestown... But, there was definitely some terrifying and surreal nonsense going down.
This reminds me of a joke:
- You know, satanists don't believe in literal Satan.
- So how do you call those who do?
- Christians.
🤣🤣🤣
@Mike you're off to hell then
@Mike Which non-existent God?
Which set of rules?
Yours. Obviously.
@Mike
"Religion is a lot like a penis; It's fine to have one, but don't force it down my throat."
@Mike Satan only exists in YOUR book.
Other books are available.
As an atheist this shit is hilarious go satan club
Children should be protected from all religions. Leave them be until they reach adulthood and can make their own choices.
Would you say the same about children choosing their own gender before they are grown enough? I highly doubt it.
Dave Barry pretty much summed it up when he wrote, "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them."
i like that and have not herd it until now
Fact
So true!
Thats a common phrase among pagan pedophiles. Those parents don't want libshit pedophiles sharing their satanic "views"with their kids. It's a 2 way street groomer.
no true really not true
My Dad used to let all religious door knockers in. He would offer them a seat, get them all a beer, then turn the sports up and watch his sports. On commercials he would go to the bathroom, then bring them a new beer regardless if they’d open it or not. After a while no one knocked on the door anymore. Which was a bummer, because it was really entertaining to watch how offended the knockers would get. I almost forgot, the louder they tried to talk the louder the tv would get.
hahahahahahahahahahahah
Aaawww your Dad's awesome.
ANNA! You're CORRECT! I have never seen a news report of a coalition of Rabbis and their followers protesting at a school board etc., over not forcing their religion on students.
I had not thought about this until she talked about it in this video. From what I've seen, it's a very true statement.
No, but they are militant and murderous in Israel, which is a religious state.
As a Jew in the Baptist Bible Belt ,I’m constantly asked to defend my beliefs and why should THEY become Jewish. My response is always, Jews don’t proselytize and the only reason to become Jewish is because YOU want to.
My response is that they worship a Jewish man. Jesus was never anything but a Jew who practiced Judaism. So, just like his first non Jewish followers, they should convert to Judaism and become followers of the Nazarene. In the beginning, you were required to convert and followJewish law to become a follower of the Nazarene. Jesus was never a Christian. He was always a practicing Jew.
I'm a formerly Southern Baptist atheist Satanist Jew. :D
@@squirrelly68 so typical. 😆
I worked for a US company in Canada and I saw a friend had an interesting pendant on their necklace and asked about it. She got nervous and stuffed the pendant into her shirt. I asked what I did wrong and I was sorry if I offended her with my question. She quietly explained that is was a Wiccan symbol and that she had recently been pulled into her bosses office as another person had seen it and made a complaint that it offended them. I was shocked as it was a neat design and had seen that several others on our team had crosses on necklaces and they werent asked to hide their beliefs.
Im not a religious person but I am interested in learning about the beliefs of others and I asked another friend about thair faith (they happened to be Jewish) and was told that if we were overheard we could be written up or suspended if someone of the "christian" faith could complain that us talking was harrassment in the workplace.
Cmon people we are all different and I choose to celebrate those differences. How boring would it be if we were all the same?
If we were all the same it would not take much time before you would be singled out because of the color of your eyes. Being different means that you are stronger in what you believe in yourself than what others believe as a group.
Nice story. You just make that up or are you writing a fiction novel? Lolz. It's pathetic that you make up Jewish fairytales for attention. Is that the latest fad at the synagogue? Did they make lampshades out of her too? Put it in your diary Ann frank
@@itsmaam go troll someone else that wants to hear your bs
@Madison 07 it's from a movie about the holohoax. Fuzzy marmot is making up the story. Pretending like jews are oppressed or something.
@@itsmaam a holocaust denier your other statements on this page make perfect sense now. You need to be treated like a German denier, forced to take the field trip to the sights in Germany and Poland that prove it. I am not Jewish but it upsets me to hear ppl like you deny it happened. It means you will try to repeat it here. We won’t allow that.
This was many years ago back in the early nineties. I had some Jahova's Witnesses come knocking on my door. I just told them that I worshipped the devil. They turned around and left without saying a word.
You should have started “speaking in tongues”. That would have put some pep in their step.
Hi F.Z.! Haha, I pretty much did the exact same thing; was early Two thousands “(oughts”) & 2 naïve & unsuspecting, yet programmed Mormons knocked on the door; I opened it & before they could proceed to impart their “good news” I beat ‘‘em to it, by promptly reciting the (spoken) intro to Iron Maiden’s “Number of the Beast”….(with deliberate slow creepy British horror movie actor’s voice & inflection, for added emphasis)
Needless to say, they stood there in shocked silence, before turning on their Mormon heels; & swiftly making their getaway….. unforgettable classic moment!
This is great, but not quite the best I've heard: when I was a kid, a friend's aunt told me her story about finally getting the JW's to stop coming to her door. She was agnostic, and was so tired of being bothered that one day when there was a knock at the door and she noticed it was them, she quickly stripped completely naked before answering. They never came to her door again! 😂😂😂
I just slam the door on them..
These are the sam people who are outraged over school shootings and People like Darrell Brooks? A counterweight to a religion that promotes morality and love for your neighbor? Get your priorities strait? There is an actual Satan. Read the Bible. Truth exists even if you don’t believe.😊
As a devout Mormon I say all for one and one for all. I have no problem with this so long as it is not state-funded. We should all be free to decide for ourselves what spiritual path we follow.
I think you missed the point. There’s nothing spiritual about the church of satan. It’s not a religious thing what so ever.
Do you think we should also be free to leave one spiritual path and follow another, or be free to follow none?
@@diaboloavocado yes I do.
@@joshuatryon3874 glad to hear it.
Do3s that mean you don't agree with the shunning practice Mormons inflict on ex-Mormons, especially apostates?
"Religion is a lot like a penis; It's fine to have one, but don't force it down my throat."
Conservatives strongly support THEIR freedom of speech and religion. It's all about privilege and selfishness.
It's not just freedom of religion, it's freedom FROM religion.
So true !!!
🤔🤔🤔 AMÉRICAINS !!!
What's wrong with you ? I am so glad to be French 😀😍
I've lived in Tennessee, right in the Bible belt, for 5 years. After a year, my SUPER Christian neighbors next door learned I was an atheist and they started coming to bang on my front door to try to convert me several times a week. One day, after about 3 months, I told them to come inside and I started a religious debate with them and immediately showing them articles, videos, essays, etc. about how toxic and corrupt their religion has been and explained why I'm not just an atheist but an existentialist. I started saying that life is a meaningless trudge towards the inevitable abyss of death and morality is a double-sided construct built around hypocrisy to justify countless atrocities throughout human history. By the end, they both left sobbing and no one from any church has bothered me since.
Tennessean here too. I lived in Nashville for about a year and the JW were a bother. I asked them not to knock on my door, but they persisted, telling me they were worried about my "lack of faith" and just wanted to help me. 🙄
A couple of weeks later here comes the knock, just as I had gotten out of the shower. After I spotted them through the peephole, I opened the door, wearing naught but a smile and my pentacle. To give them credit, they attempted conversation for nearly a minute before beating a hasty retreat when I invited them in to discuss my "faith." I don't know if they knew I was a pagan or assumed I was a "satanist," but I never saw them again.
I had to answer my door naked and screaming with frustration after politely asking the JW people at least 10 times to stop knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday. They never knocked again 😁
@@VeracityLH A couple of Jehovah's Witnesses started atlking to me on the street. I politly told them "did you know that Adam had two wives? It's in the Bible" (which, cording to somew interetations,it is. Pretty soon, one started walking away, and the other started talking on a cell phone, clearly faking a call. They were tring to get rid of ME. I considered that a victory.
I never answer my door. I just let my pit bull peak out the window at them
good job
Even if they actually believed in Satan, their group should be allowed if laws allow religious groups in schools. In fact there are religious, non-violent satanic groups, who believe in a different version of Satan who is not the king of evil. I don't agree with having religious groups in public grounds, but if they're allowed, they should all be allowed.
Ex-actly
They said they wanted religion in school, but they didn’t realize that they opened the door to other religions.
The true problem here is that for many Evangelicals they embrace the idea that other Americans should NOT have the right to believe something else. It shows no understanding of the founding fathers and the principals upon which this country was founded.
yes they are the Western Taliban , they think "secular" is a sex act ,
Such hypocrites! Out of all religion they are the worst.
So you resist faith and practice degeneracy...?
@@eb1247 the christians in question are the degenerates here. And faith has no place in any decision making process. Only facts. Sit down before you get sat down, zealot. You can either join us in the 21st century or others will drag you there 🤷🏻♂️
@@eb1247 degeneracy and faith are not necessarily related. If you want to make that argument though, like a moron, then look at the prison system. Everyone there is Christian.
Are we at the point that we can label Christianity as a extremist group or terrorist group?
It's a hate group
1 B.C.E.
Truth they are nuts
@@davidrichardson4131 Just easily led and gullible while putting far too much thought into the genitals of others.
Some of the more extreme parts of it certainly.
everybody is free to not practice any religion, its called freedom
1st Amendment Right.
@@KrustyKlown Read Thomas Jeffersons Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom.
“Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.”~Unknown
Victor J. Stenger.
Love this comment!!!
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yep, religion does that. Relationship, however, with God flies you right into peace, love and joy!
@@shirney1 *a building
We live in strange times when Satanists are the good guys and Christian are spreading hate and evil.
i mean it's true
I would say that people claiming to be Christians have spread hate and evil for centuries.
Religion should probably not be in the school period. If a person prays, they should do it silently.
Yeah, I don't really care if a Christian club holds meetings on school grounds, but if you're allowing one religious exemption you've got to allow them all, even 'Satanists'.
But, but, My Religion is the correct religion because it's my religion! Therefore it's okay to force it on everyone because my religion is the right religion because it's my religion. Got all that?
So I'm pagan, I worship as my ancestors did. So when jehovah's witnesses came to my door, I would tell them, I'd be happy to listen about their faith, if they'd listen about mine.
It was their fault if they assumed I was another type of Christian. Lol!
Especially if it was younger people, or women...they sent elders to my house a couple of times, wanting to know what I had said to their youngins! Lol!
True story! Lol!
Namaste brothas and sistas😎✌💛🧡💜💙💚❤
Really wish there was video! 🤣
@@LucareonVee when I start asking things like, if a woman bears life, then she lives closer to God then most men, so why are we second class citizens?
The goddess is the oldest image of god that exists, why do you think that is?
By the time the tea or coffee was made (many of them dont do caffeine, and I being a good kitchen witch always have good herbal teas😆), their expressions were priceless!😉
Had more than a few of their women ask me a lot of questions!😄😄😄
Peace my friend, and namaste 😎🙏💛🧡💜💙💚❤
They always just assume everyone else is some type of christian it's so true!🤣
I'm not a Pagan, but I used to tell the JW's that I was. They always just fled immediately. If they had asked me about my religion, I'm not sure what I would have said, but it never came to that. They just turned around and ran.
I did have a kind of satanic looking door knocker so maybe that helped.
@@petem.3719 😂😂😂
After school programs in public schools should focus on educational development (science, physical ed, arts, …) rather than religious beliefs. This from a Christian.
From the After School Satan mission statement: "Proselytization is not our goal, and we’re not interested in converting children to Satanism. After School Satan Clubs will focus on free inquiry and rationalism, the scientific basis for which we know what we know about the world around us."
@@fiercelytrans1599 then why not call it something religiously unrelated like oh I don't know, "Philosophy club"?
Don't deny it, this did in part have religious symbology tied to it from the get go. You're not gonna name a group after a religious monarch like freaking lucifer unless you INTEDED to derive or pay homage to THE IDEA of lucifer or satanism.
That would be like me opening a restaurant called "Leafy Greens" and strictly serving meat-only foods. You're being dishonest and trying (like the people defending this) to use plausible deniability in order to deny it and in addition make the ones against this look crazy.
"It's about philosophy and science" my ass - then name the damned thing after Socrates or Nietzsche ! You know, ACTUAL philosophers. Bunch of liars
People threaten me with hell when I say to them: "Divine law only applies to people who assert divine law exists."
The uptight community i live in lost their minds over this coming on the Next Door app. I was like "If you get rid of the christian club. they will go away" Yet, they don't seem to get it. I love this groups approach. It's quite effective. Hail Satan!
There’s no hate like Christian love
people love their sin more than they love God and dont want to reminded of their sin until its too late and they find themselves in hell with an eternity of regret. Satan just want to keep you in the dark until your death...then it's too late. True Christians always end up persecuted as Jesus was for telling you the truth. Sinners hate truth just like I did
@@mikealessi7006 Awwww you’re so persecuted!! Poor you!! You can shove your flag up your dirty asshole sideways until you throw up stars and stripes. “God” doesn’t love anyone if he allows billions of people to suffer and die and torture them forever because they didn’t stroke his ego hard enough. Freaks like you are why we should reopen the asylums.
@@mikealessi7006 Do you love god or just afraid of hell?
@@harrytan5579 when I wasn't saved I was in fear of hell. Now that I can trust the promises of God through his grace. Thats what faith is. Faith in his blood that paid the price of hell that I deserved.
It's not Christians that are called to hate its the world that hates God that judges sin. Jesus said:
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:19 KJV
As someone raised in the Christian church, and in a Jewish community, who left the church many years ago, let people worship whatever deity they want. Don't force your religion on me, and I won't force my agnostic belief on you.
Back in the 90s, as a teen, I'd drop a hit or 2 of LSD and go in front of a goth club and have religious debates with street preacher Christians holding a 10ft cross telling people they're going to Hell for going into this club.
It was always entertaining that my tripping mind would counter all their arguments using the Bible against them.
I still do it now, except without the LSD
When christian’s use god to project their inner hate, doesn’t that mean the devil has already contaminated their soul?
No, that's not true. Real CHRIST FOLLOWERS want to save others from going to hell. I can't speak for every Christian. Some really are hateful, not all of them, and you can't assume things. And the real hateful people of this world are the ones who try and blind people from the TRUTH....GODS WORD IS THE TRUTH. FACTS don't care about feelings. FACTS are real LOVE, and sugar-coated lies are hate. GOD IS LOVE and TRUTH. the devil is lies and deceive
@@kelquest1294 Save others by what means? By taking away a people’s culture, history and legacy? Assimilate them to your beliefs because you deem them savages? I speak of false prophets who say they believe in God, but don’t act or speak in a Godly manner. The evangelical pastors who thru donation to the Lord, buy multi million dollar homes and jet planes. The politicians who through God and country pass laws that enrich themselves and their overlords and have their acolytes do crimes for them. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say all Christians. Every Christian is given free will to choose their path.
@Ruben Rebenz culture, history legacy doesn't matter when the world passes. We take nothing with us when we die. JESUS isn't coming back to take sides he's coming back to take over, and GODS word will always be TRUTH the beginning and always. And that's on periodt. You're either with GOD or with the devil. There's no in-between. Saving people by telling to stop sinning and accept JESUS is the most loving way to save people because there is no other way. This world is Fallen and wicked and has an end. But GODS WORD LIVES ON FOREVER and that's the way it is. Being rich isn't going to save you being religious isn't going to save you. Thinking your doing good deeds is not going to save you. ONLY JESUS SAVES. the politicians and all that government stuff are with the devil and the left that rebels against GOD. GOD IS EVERYTHING. CHANGED MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER STILL IN BATTLE BUT I WILL ALWAYS HAVE FAITH.❤️🔥✝️
@@kelquest1294 The “christian” right uses God to fool their acolytes. Would Jesus be conservative or democrat these days. I know my faith doesn’t make me feel righteous over other people. They’ll choose their own path, be it heaven or hell.
@Ruben Rebenz GODS WORD IS EVERYTHING, EVERYONE NEEDS JESUS. THIS PLANET IS TOO WICKED AND FALLEN. I RATHER LISTEN TO GOD THAN MAN THAT ARENT FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. Don't come at me with bs at the end of the day FACTS ARE FACTS and it don't care about your feelings.
I am totally for all religions being banned in any public settings. If anyone wants to practice any religion it should be done in private setting. Also... As long as religions are heavily involved in capitalism then all religions should be taxed. No religion should be allowed to be tax free. Stop this nonsense.
Separation of church and state and freedom until leftist feeling get hurts your being a hypocrit
@@OGCHUCK1 Not being a hypocrite at all and fuck anyone's feelings being hurt. Practicing religion in public places including schools or any government entity should be banned and should be a chargeable offense.
Same goes for the LGBTQ shit... keep that shit private, don't force your beliefs upon anyone else... keep those rainbow flags at ur home not in schools
@@hvwoodcreations6278 by your logic i can go and tell you kids to commit suicide and that they worthless pieces of sh you said it fuck anyone feeling.
@@OGCHUCK1 How in the world did you come up with that by what I said? Plus, any of my kids are smarter and stronger than that. you are a complete moron. If you had half a brain and a could up with somewhat of a logical argument I would be glad to debate you but it seems like your type just isn't debatable. Have a nice day.
"To us it's like talking about Dumbledore"....that line was gold
This is an example of effective activism. FYI, the point is to upset people. They’d ignore a Spaghetti Monster Club, cause it’s funny and harmless. Ultimately, they will end the program in relation with the school and that is the goal.
My religious boss once said to me as a salesman for the company "every knock on the door is an opportunity" and in front of the whole office, I said "no sometimes it's just a Jehovah's Witness" he turned red a walked away.
I am atheist. I love this. And I *love* the branding! After School Satan has chased them out of some schools just by the threat of coming in; and the acronym ASS makes it impossible to dodge Satan that way. It's perfect.
Recommended reading, "The Swerve, How the World became Modern" by Stephen Greenblatt.
So, many years ago. I decided to go to college. The college was located in Pittsburgh, PA. I moved in with my cousin. Who is a goth. His apartment was decorated accordingly. With skulls, and black curtains. The whole dark and dreary. There was one day I was home alone and the doorbell rang. I went to the door to find two Jehovah Dimbwitts. I greeted them and invited them in to talk. The two definitely seemed nervous as they took a seat on the couch. They were looking everywhere in abject horror. My quick thinking was to ask if they wanted some tea. They said yes. I went to the kitchen and grabbed the mortar and pestle on the shelf and returned to the living room pretending to be grinding tea leaves. Well on said mortar was a pentagram. I made sure it was facing the dimbwitts. I said" I think the water is almost ready" and returned to the kitchen. While in the kitchen I heard the door slam, to my surprise my guests had exited in quite a hurry. I about died laughing. To live your life in fear, especially of your "all loving god" is not life at all.
That is hilarious.🤣
Terrific story!
I unfortunately grew up in a extremely religious public school (probably why I was so f up growing up) but if there was a satanic club and I found out they were teaching science/rationalism instead of what my parents and church were telling me (rituals, dark magic, ect.) I probably would have come to the realization that they were insane much sooner and lived a much happier life.
(I highly disagree with the host about the branding thing) branding it as a Satanic club is what gets the message out and gives more youth a bigger chance to expand their understanding of the world. Can not tiptoe around peoples extremism
Otherwise it would just be like any other science or philosophy club
I wasn’t sure how I felt about whether branding it as satanism was a good idea or not, but you’ve explained it so eloquently I think you’re absolutely correct. So now I be like “what she said” 🤣😜
Probably should have called it the "Atheist Club" and leave it at that. Freedom of religion means having the choice not to believe. Proselytizing is the number one reason atheism and agnosticism are growing by leaps and bounds.
They should've called it the cult of reason...
They can’t call it the atheist club. Atheists are not organized so they don’t meet the requirements of protection. They can’t get tax free status either. Best to poke them in the eye with Satan. They think they are out there so might as well give it to them. After all the point they are trying to make is trolling for converts among minors is crossing the line. Leave children alone at school.
Keep your Christ Doctrine off school grounds. You got your Church to do that in, how greedy they are.
Yes!
The more someone forces their beliefs onto others, the more I resist such beliefs.
If God is in control and all powerful, why are they afraid? They must not have much confidence in God.
Love this!! I would totally join if I were a kid in grade school!!! I grew up atheist and thank my parents everyday!!!
No this is wrong!
@@enriquemosqueda5603 trying to convert other ppls children is what is wrong. Christianity is spreading hate, fear, and demanding we all convert, and live like them. We see you acting like Nazi, causing insurrection, burning books, and chasing our kids to join you in this fear/hate fest. The louder someone declares they are holy the closer you better watch them. Matthew 6: 1-12. They have their reward. Try reading and praying about the Bible. It is how I read my way out of hate.
@@enriquemosqueda5603 you are wrong
Exactly, when you're not religious saying "hail Satan" is the same thing as saying "hail Hydra" . It has no real meaning lol
religion should not be respected at all,, if your belief has exact same circumstance as Santa Claus,, then no, ridicule is best..
"He see you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake
He knows when you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness' sake"
Checks out.
My Mom is Jewish so supposedly I'm Jewish by birth. Jews have to work hard to learn hebrew and be able to read the torah. This happens when you're in middle school probably the most difficult part of your life growing up. I remember going to countless friends ceromonies and going to the Temple during certain events. Yeah it's a very small group of us but its good as you're part of a community. There is no real guilt in the religion or dogma I even went to Isreal and the wailing wall. I now live in Vietnam far away from the crazy preachers and religious zealots in the States. Its nice not to be constantly bothered by them.
Except your taught that your the chosen people.. Which is discriminatory and pushing yourself above others.. All religions suck and discriminatory..
We younger generations with children find it as funny as our real kids do. Also, wouldn't it be nice if Christians freaked out as much about how many kids we've lost in mass shootings?
I'm Christian, I believe in science, and I'm not mad at this. This club is testing the religious freedom of this school/court ruling, as they should. I do not want the US to become a theocracy. We've already seen what that looks like around the world.
Thank you. So many Christians seem not to realize that they benefit as much from secularism as non-Christians.
Careful you don't talk like that around the others in your church. They'll label you a Satanist in disguise.
When I was in elementary school, one of my friends invited me to the 'Good News Club'. Looking back, I can remember the level of indoctrination, shame, and fear, which was the reason I left Christianity as a young adult. Not a Satanist myself, I am a pagan, but since religious freedom is guaranteed by our Constitution, I totally get why they are providing an alternative to the idea that Christianity is the only and right path for everyone...
That’s all they do. They aren’t even Satanic. They’ll SAY they are if they think you are offended by that. But most religious people are too dumb to see past their own programmed mind to see what the ST does.
I guess it's all ones experience. I have friends who teach 'Good News Clubs' and they usually read a Bible story with pictures and felt board, sing a silly song, have a snack, and play a game.
However, I'm also not really up in arms about the 'Satan' club. I agree with Cenk, that naming it that causes more controversy than needed, but I definitely think fair is fair
The thing I love about Paganism, is that while it is based on ancient beliefs and practises that are very different than Christianity, and if fact suffered death at the hands of Christians, it pursues its beliefs and cosmology in confidence without the need to put any other religion down or copy any other religion. That is a mature belief.
My family are Pagan too. My teen daughter was invited to one of her friend's youth groups at her church. I told her she could go but be warned that it would be preachy. He friend assured her it wasn't. It was. My kid declined any further youth group visits.
pagan satan all the same you funny.
“Keep vour myth out of my life,
and I will leave your myth alone.”
Born and raised a Jehovah’s Witness and I always loved when the people at the doors wanted to debate. Made me realize how wrong I was though lolol
When I was in the fifth grade My mom started ordering books from this new encyclopedia series called man myth and magic One of the many encyclopedia sets she had bought us as kids they covered mythological all forms of magic and religion I can just imagine the reaction of some parents to these books today 🤣
The book talked about magic, myths, and religion? It sounds like the bible.
@@B_Bodziak you must have died once yes? How the fuck do you know? I don't. How do you know Zeus isn't real, did he miss a luncheon date w you?
Your mom sounds AWESOME!
One Easter I rented Monty Python and the holy grail then I got life of Bryan.
The kids liked both.
The goal is not to turn people into atheists but to make theocrats respect the separation of church and state
never gonna happen - "Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastic Bodies may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in its short history" - James Madison (Father of the Constitution)
@@fuckyougeorgebush yay false analogies that make no sense at all.
Satanism is the best and we will take over the world
@@fuckyougeorgebush - "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley
@@fuckyougeorgebush
I keep six good serving men
They taught me all I knew
Their names are When, and What, and Where
And Why, and How, and Who
- Kipling
I’ve always been confused by how evangelicals act like Satan is more powerful than God. They panic and go absolutely insane over Satan. But isn’t God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent? Satan is none of those things according to their own Bible!?! Ignorance is a disease in these people.
Evangelicals always believe that thier enemies are both weak and strong. Its a part of their persecution complex. They NEED to feel always attacked even though their God is all powerful.
poor POOR xtians with their god so weak that gays OFFEND him!! poor POOR xtians with their god so insecure that he'll torture you for ETERNITY for not "believing" in him!!
and.. poor POOR xtians with their god so "loving" that he'll drown the whole earth.. all its occupants.. including infants and animals.. just because he can
that "god" is an IMORRAL THUG OF A MONSTER.. that "god" deserves ZERO praise or worship!!
their "god" sounds more like satan than.. SATAN
I'm 65 years old. When I was in elementary school, a public school in southern Louisiana, we had what is called Catechism class at the end of the school day, for a half hour. Our school day ended at 3:15pm I was not a Catholic thus my parents did not agree to this practice. Thus I was allowed to leave school early each day... The area of Southern Louisiana is around 95% Catholic. Both my parents were raised Catholic, but they left their Catholic past after being married. My point is, the issue of religion in public schools goes back a long time. It has no place in a public school, not then nor now !
You can’t really ban it as a club at the school. But, it 100% shouldn’t be part of the curriculum.
I actually remember Catechism class. It was so stupid, especially as a non-believing child (Catholic family). Even as a little kid, it all seemed so obviously made-up.
Right there with you and in the same location.
@@jaycol21 Religions have entire buildings for them to operate in. We call them, for example, Churches. There is no building for Chess, so we hold THOSE at school, but after hours.
@@markhackett2302 While I think it’s stupid, some kids ARE really into Jesus. If they want to form some little after school club to talk about it, there is no real reason to stop them. As long as they’re not coming at the LGBTQ kids or Non-Christian kids and aren’t trying to create rules for the other students, it’s fine. OPTIONAL after school clubs for your hobbies is a big part of the whole school experience.
Chances are if you let the kids talk about it amongst themselves, they’ll probably start deconverting each other anyway…especially if they’re older kids in a mixed gender group.
Don’t become the thing you hate in an attempt to fight it off.
Let's start an after school Cthulhu club. With readings from the good book, The necronomicon.
Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn
Ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn
Ia is Cthulhu fhtagn
What is so ironic is how compassionate Satanists are compared to Christians.
Yes. The most altruistic person I know is one of my fraternity brothers and he is a part of TST. Most Christians? Horrible people.
They shouldn't allow any religious clubs in public schools.
Including the LGBTQUIA religion.
...but they did for Christian clubs. That's the issue being brought up here.
THAT MIGHT be a GOOD outcome of having a SATAN and a phony CRISTIAN (really NON christians) group
Imagine going to the good news club after school…
“So everything you’ve learned today is actually BS and you can get much better education from a magical sky daddy” 😂
Science cannot explain morality.
The reason for keeping political and theological positions out of school is because schools SHOULD be objective.
"Should" cannot be explained by science alone.
The Nazis thought that they "should" euthanize the disabled because mathematically and scientifically speaking it makes sense to "humanely" eliminate them because if they breed they have more disabled children and the suffering in the world will be multiplied and continued but if we just euthanize them we can eliminate X amount of suffering in the world and less suffering = "good" and so actually the most "scientifically" "correct" decision is the eliminate the disabled and then the German people will have no disabilities, no more suffering, NOT euthanising them perpetuates MORE suffering.
More suffering = "bad."
Therefore us Nazis are politically "correct" we have "scientific" morality.
Do you see the problem with this.
@@lordsoros627 and you think an evangelical organised school club is going to discuss morality from a wide perspective of both religious and non-religious cultures. I think the evangelicals have shown themselves exactly who they are over the last few years and are the last people you’d want to have lessons on morality from! Furthermore, just because people have scientific viewpoints doesn’t mean they disregard morality. The Enlightenment was full of philosophers who wrote on morality whilst rejecting Christian morality. Surely it’s at the core of what the Enlightenment was.
Also, my original comment wasn’t really supposed to be a scholarly viewpoint. I was just laughing at the ridiculousness of what we all know the evangelicals teach
@@mdb3040 firstly I stated that theological and political opinions should be kept out of schools.
Secondly I think you have a very narrow view of Christianity.
Some of the most genius people in history were Christians, they have a long tradition of fine philosophical thinkers that gave much to the world and much can be learned from it and I say this as someone who is entirely agnostic.
However as I stated there are some things that cannot be measured or understood by science and it is these places outside of science where a lot can be learned from Christianity, not to mention the fact that many of the most esteemed scientists and engineers of history were Christians themselves.
Christianity and science are not mutally exclusive, Christians can do science too.
As someone who is agnostic I see more of a threat from "scientism," broadly the material determinism that disregards everything but science and actually is itself in scientific.
The Christians are not a threat.
I think that you have seen too many videos of left wing click bait on channels such as this to the point that you have seen far more videos of crazy people who happen to be Christian, broadly speaking, saying crazy sh×t than you have met or seen normal Christians.
The crazy Christians you see are such fringe examples.
Again, I am not Christian but all this Christian bashing is getting boring now.
We will NOT be returning to eccclestial rule anytime soon.
However we already have god knows how many planks of the "10 planks" of the communist manifesto and socialism and scientism are running rampant from board room, to news desk to campus.
@@mdb3040 "surely it's a the core of the enlightenment...."
To a point.
The enlightenment wasn't an atheist product though, a lot of those philosophers were protestants, especially the English.
The founding fathers were protestants, men of the enlightenment for sure.
This is a big topic though.
This is where the culture war comes from.
The problems we face now are directly linked to the enlightenment.
Some of the assumptions of the enlightenment are just not true.
This is why socialism, while completely failing and being proved as ridiculous as it sounded, has not died out and still causes us problems.
Although the English liberal order won the ideological battle about four of the broader assumptions of the enlightenment are simply false, like the "universal" man.
These wrong assumptions basically allowed the communists and fascists to basically push at these weak spots and subvert liberalism.
Until these assumptions are corrected socialism will always be able to push at them without resistance.
That is why since the French revolution socialism has continually failed but never gone away, because of the four wrong assumptions of liberalism.
The universal man.
The man out of society.
Democracy.
Equality.
The English common law actually redresses these but the wider accepted assumptions are throughout our society and system and so can be attacked.
For instance "democracy is for the people, by the people...."
This is simply not true.
Democracy STILL leads to a political class.
Equality.
Men are not born equal, it is simply the truth.
The English common law conception of fairness redresses this.
Universal man, man out of time.
This is basically blank slate theory, it is not true.
Man out of society.
Libralism assumes a man "before" society, more blank slate theory and a bit of social contract theory, this is simply not true.
Man has NEVER existed outside of society, even monkeys have primitive societies.
Until these assumptions are redressed the culture war will continue and it has been going for well over 300 years already.
But, magical sky daddy loves me. Or, at least, sky daddy hasn't killed me, yet, today. Sky daddy loves everyone!! (except Jews, Queers, Lawyers, Muslims, Hindus and Sihks and Democratic election workers)
My dad trapped a group of witnesses folks in a hot garage by blocking the exit with his body and debated them so long that they never returned.
No bec you describe it like trapping ants or bugs in a cup it something,💀
When I used to work in retail, I would have people give me the Christian lines all the time. It made me feel uncomfortable so I wanted to share that discomfort, sharing is caring after all. So when they would ask me "Do you have Jesus in your heart" I would respond I am a Pastafarian (church of the flying spaghetti monster), Have you been touch by his noodly appendage. The look on their face is awesome
That line is priceless; I have got to remember that one 😂
What are they crying about; they didnt cry about forcing prayer groups in schools and religious remarks on coins and auto tags. Even though the constitution clearly states that church and state are to be kept separate. So don't complain because you licked the tip of the poisoned arrow to see if it worked.
In the context that they think trump is the "Second Coming of Jesus", I understand where they are coming from. They have no critical thinking skills, "poorly educated" as trump likes to say.
IMO, in the USA “religion” is regional 🤔I was born and raised in NY but lived in Texas for a few years as a teenager. I don’t think I really understood what Christianity entailed until I lived in TX, and that is because I never experienced it before as we don’t have that level of religious zeal on Long Island. When I tried to explain that notion to the Uber religious Texans they could not grasp the concept that “religion”,worship,spirituality, varies. This caused parents to not allow their kids to hang out with me and it caused a lot of trouble in school. I was sent out of the classroom many a time for questioning my my English or History teacher was relating all of our assignments to the Bible …IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL!
Awful, keep religion out of public schools. The only reason these loonies want to bring it back, is that that’s how they can control children that’s all it is a bunch of bullshit
@Guitar Rush Exaggerate has 2 G's not 2 X's. Obviously you didn't spend your time there in school.
Religion is humanity's biggest problem.
Cenk, don't apologize for being condescending. Most religious people are condescending to us atheists all the time.
Your a hypocrit
No babe. It's just that a lot of atheist get triggered when anyone says anything about God. There's almost always a comment, why? Just keep scrolling. I most definitely believe in God, and I've been blessed to have experienced supernatural occurrings. But what I DON'T do is force it down anyone's throat. I do also that think super religious folks need to chill on the judgment and be more accepting...like me ❤️
@@leogoddess3863 Oh wait you have had supernatural experiences? That's satanic, isn't it?
@@leogoddess3863 no one cares about your relationship with your imaginary friend, sweetie.
@@montamiddleton9318 🤣🤣🤣 you ok? No baby, a warning from AN ANGEL 5 minutes before a very very very close call with a semi truck. Because I received that warning, I was extra vigilant. It's something I'll never forget, and I could care less if anyone doesn't believe me. ❤️
As an atheists, all of these religious people just assume that we’re all angry and bitter. It’s actually Christians who are angry and insecure.
They also assume we’re secretly Christian’s who prayed for something and did t get it, so now we’re just angry at god.
you know christians battle aganst evil, right ? i know you are stupid. i bet you dnt haw kids. just think you want your kid to go satan club? them maby come home and hit you whit hammer. or kill your pets. you know what happens people like that? they called psygopats.
@@samppasamFIN wtf are you taking about?! Lol u ok grublin boi? (Grublins are a creature from the legend of spyro dawn of the dragon video game) lol
@@samppasamFIN you obviously know nothing. Or the message these people are trying to point out. So here's my advice to you. Burn the Bible it's not illegal Christianity has no authority.
@@samppasamFIN lmao
The need to accommodate the beliefs of everyone, makes this planet one messed up place. Religion is the problem.
Religon is a curse on humanity.
The point is to freak them out and make them understand that this is what it feels like when they push their nonsense on us.
Makes no sense. Kids aren't captured and dragged into the Christian club after the school bell rings at the end of the day. People join the club if they want to.
@@X2LR8 The kids aren't dragged into going to the non-Christian clubs, either. So, why should the former be able to meet after school but not the latter?
Satanists are a helluva lot more fun
And they have cookies.
@@PorchPotatoMike I want a cookie
Comes with the territory
Ave Satanas !! 👁🔥👁
@@chadthechad4365 🍪 here you go!
I am a devout Christian. And I find this hilarious!
The Christian: "How can you worship Satan?"
The Satanist: "I don't. Satanists don't typically believe in a literal Satan. It's a metaphor."
The Christian: "Well, then what do you call people who do believe in a literal Satan?"
The Satanist: "Christians."
You can just say "Don't" instead of "Don't typically", there is no well-documented modern movement that worships satan who also actually call themselves satanists. The association of the word with any such group serves no real purpose other than propaganda when there are individual terms for the people who theistically worship Satan.
@shoulderutube It's not much of a feat to convince the world that an invisible man with superpowers who was created by a different invisible man with superpowers doesn't exist. Especially when the invisible creator is supposedly all powerful yet the created invisible being rules the world because....reasons? Oh and the invisible creator will torture you for eternity if you disagree with him, but he loves you!
@shoulderutube a pretty crap trick considering that the majority of the world's population subscribe to various forms of Abrahamic religion and as such believe Satan exists.
@shoulderutube Or early churches realized that the carrots weren't enough incentive to get people to tithe. They needed a stick too.
Grow up, there are satanist out and about.
I want to attend the Satanic Prayer Breakfast, with unholy pancakes, infernal bacon, soul-damned sausages, and hell-fire and brimstone hash browns.
Unholy donuts. Sacrilegious snacks.
That's creative -😳✨
Demonic Donughta
Atheist Appetizers
Holy shit I hope my 3rd and 4th graders come home saying their is a after school satan club. I will sign them up in a heartbeat 😂.
Right?? I would have loved one at my kids' elementary school when they were younger! Hell, I would have started one if I had known of their existence.
Oo Oo. they should call it "The Bad News Club"!!!!! those club shirts would be so sweet!
To the LW Christians who hate when TYT does these stories, I want you to know that YOU ARE VITAL to the political fight against RW Christo-Fascism in America with us!
Please don’t be turned off by TYT’s secular take on these religious topics and try to understand the vital distinctions that make the Separation of Church & State SO IMPORTANT to preserving our democracy.
Thank you for your sensible comment
@@JJ-ls4ej I hope they're listening and know that I love them.
America loves them.
We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.
Some of us just go one god further.
- Richard Dawkins
"It's wrong and shouldn't be in the school" is the whole point they're trying to make about the Good News Club?
'Be good slaves and you will be rewarded in Heaven for eternity, but if you are bad slaves you will burn in hell for eternity'. Whoever invented Christianity was a genius.
I had a a white, southern, evangelical Christian missionary tell me that a verse in the New Tesatmant said that a slave shouldbe the best slave that he or she could possibly be. All that did is make me realize that I can not believe that everything in the Bible is true.
Religion is Prison for your mind. Set yourself Free
@@milascave2 I went to a small village school in the UK in the early 70's. Every morning we would have to sing a hymn and say a prayer. We even had to thank Ghods for our lunch and on Friday the local Rector would teach us Iron Age Fairy Tales (AKA the Bible). Fortunately I was intelligent enough to shuck off this mind programming.
@@milascave2 I appreciate your rational response.
"All you can do is enjoy the things that you've worked for, because in the end, nobody knows what really happens after you die."
Ecclesiastes 3:22
Well, if they have a problem with the Satan club, how about a club for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? 🍝
dude don't be dissin my religion!
@@johnnynephrite6147 I am the proud parent of a practicing pastafarian, so no dissin' at all! I love those guys. May you all be touched by his noodily appendage.
These are the seven tenets of TST. And is why I am a proud congregate.
1.
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
As a vegetarian I have been known to praise Seitan.
Lol
My dad was like Ana's. As a devout atheist he made sure to know the bible inside out. He used to invite in any Mormon and Jehovah's Witness that came to our door and kept them "hostage" debating well over the time they wished to leave. Much to my dad's disappointment, they quickly learned to avoid our house. 😂
Ana's story about her dad reminds me of something that happened to me several years ago. Some JW came to visit and I engaged in conversation with them. Me being a rational atheist and making my points through asking them questions. Eventually they made an excuse that they had to leave and told me they would come back - I never saw them again. Guess me and her dad are of the same kind.
My Evangelical grandfather had regular visits from JW's, He would use reason and biblical knowledge to question their stance, and they would always leave a little disappointed, I think they used my Grandfather as a training aid for their new recruits.
@Emma White Jehovah's Witness
When you apply logic, and ask questions that make them actually analysis what their saying, instead of blindly believing it, they have nowhere to go, except well “cos god said so”. Did he though? They’re the ones that believe in magical being and sorcery (miracles). Maybe one day, they’ll look back at what you said and hopefully start to question instead of blindly believing. I was brought up being told I could choose my own religion when I was old enough, so of course I’m an atheist. That’s why indoctrination of the young is so important to these ppl, asking questions and free thinking is portrayed as immoral
@Emma White Jehovas Witness - a religious cult.
When my parents divorced, my sister and I lived with my mom, as was usual at that time, and she, being vulnerable, got into Jehovah's Witnesses...from when I was 7 until I had to leave home at 17 due to the unhappiness and abuse from them and an undiagnosed bipolar mom. She was not diagnosed until I was in my 40's.
I was forced to do that door to door stuff every Saturday all morning literally, and Sunday after 3 hours of services, for another 2-3 hours. Not to mention meetings on Tues at someone's home for 2 hours, AND either Thurs or Fri nights for another 2 hours at the 'Kingdom Hall'. PLUS, you have to study and read the material prior, for all meetings, using either their books, or their magazines as reading/answering questions for those meetings. Those meetings consist of one of the elders reading the assigned material AGAIN, out loud from the stage, and asking the questions you should have studied for, and raising hands and answering aloud from the congregation. Regurgitating whatever they want you to learn, and drilling it into your heard several times in that week by repetition.
HORRENDOUS..and expected to be doing your school homework, too. AND celebrate NO holidays...including your birthday. They claim it is a day to honor God for making you, not to honor your journey on the road. You get NOTHING to look forward to, nothing but 'eternal life on a paradise earth'...MAYBE....if you are deemed worthy apparently, as your goal. That's it. This life is to see if you deserve that vision. That always seemed off to me..even as a young child.
Sad to hear about all this. My daughters best friend has parents that are split up. The dad is Jahobos Witness. He is very mean and abusive… on top of not celebrating holidays or birthdays. Super sad situation
*I WOULD LOVE TO BE RELIGIOUS* I love the buildings, I love the singing, I love the ceremonies, I love the community, I love the believing that this sh!t world is not all there is...
UNFORTUNATELY, I dont believe in the fictional guy in the sky...
Yeah I learned that as an adult to stop believing in Christian fairy tales.
@@dustinsindledecker154 - I was never brought up with religion - but the first thing I do in a new city is visit the holey building, they are always amazing
Me too. We should start an after school club 🙂
I love Satanists they love to troll Christians like I do.
This is great and the only way to get rid of the intrusion of fanatical Christianity into public and governmental areas. Either everyone is represented or it remains neutral.
Freedom of Religion is the freedom to practice your beliefs, with the responsibility to allow other people to practice their beliefs. It isn't freedom of religion if you're "using it" to take away the freedoms of others.
Freedom of Religion is personal. It's not about imposing your religion on others. It's about practicing it yourself. Anything else is just hypocrisy.
they should have named it the: ALL HAIL SAGAN CLUB..
Let’s stop pretending that religion is harmless. Believing in nonsense is a dangerous practice.
Aren't there special places where people can practice their faith...like Churches or Synagogues?
Well, first of all, they use Satan as a way to troll, but they also see the figure of Satan along the lines of Milton's Paradise Lost and Romantic Visionaries like William Blake...wherein the mythological figure represents rebellion against established systems of oppressive power and tyranny. So the "branding" goes much deeper than just trolling. And while I get Cynk's point, he needs to understand, that for those of us whom Christian religious supremacists dehumanize as "other" to such a degree that we fear for our safety, having Christian organizations supported and given a voice in the communities and schools we are apart of is likewise leaves us feeling extremely threatened.
This is our reality. So, who gives a damn that these nutball religious supremacists feel "threatened" by a group of Atheists, Agnostics, LGBTQIA, etc. meeting up under the banner of "Satan" to support each other and get involved in political activism for a common goal of equity and equality under the law. Screw them.