Christian Parents MELTDOWN After Getting Trolled by "Santanic" After School Club
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The After School Satan Club has nothing to do with religion but the program that promotes secularism and scientific rationalism is causing outrage among Christian parents. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET. ruclips.net/user/theyoungturkslive
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"A new after-school club at Golden Hills Elementary School in Kern County's Tehachapi, called the "After School Satan Club," is drawing community outrage.
That's largely the point.
For years, the Satanic Temple, a group the Washington Post described as a "nontheistic religious organization advocating for secularism and scientific rationalism," has been launching these clubs in public schools where evangelical Christian groups - namely, the Good News Club - have their own meetings."
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As a kid of the 80's that had his after school DnD group run out of the school because of Christian half-wits, I fully support this.
@UCNhaKsdAoacaGpgk-5NqjGw Then I suggest you all get together and figure out who's who. Until then, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
I got kicked out of the good news club in the third grade for bringing my dads Magic the Gathering deck.
Small minds fear everything they don't understand
I distinctly remember the religious cults claiming Harry Potter was Satanism.
Equality is NOT what religious groups are actually about.
As an atheist this shit is hilarious go satan club
I've read the entire bible, thats why I'm atheist
I've lived in Tennessee, right in the Bible belt, for 5 years. After a year, my SUPER Christian neighbors next door learned I was an atheist and they started coming to bang on my front door to try to convert me several times a week. One day, after about 3 months, I told them to come inside and I started a religious debate with them and immediately showing them articles, videos, essays, etc. about how toxic and corrupt their religion has been and explained why I'm not just an atheist but an existentialist. I started saying that life is a meaningless trudge towards the inevitable abyss of death and morality is a double-sided construct built around hypocrisy to justify countless atrocities throughout human history. By the end, they both left sobbing and no one from any church has bothered me since.
Tennessean here too. I lived in Nashville for about a year and the JW were a bother. I asked them not to knock on my door, but they persisted, telling me they were worried about my "lack of faith" and just wanted to help me. 🙄
A couple of weeks later here comes the knock, just as I had gotten out of the shower. After I spotted them through the peephole, I opened the door, wearing naught but a smile and my pentacle. To give them credit, they attempted conversation for nearly a minute before beating a hasty retreat when I invited them in to discuss my "faith." I don't know if they knew I was a pagan or assumed I was a "satanist," but I never saw them again.
I had to answer my door naked and screaming with frustration after politely asking the JW people at least 10 times to stop knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday. They never knocked again 😁
@@VeracityLH A couple of Jehovah's Witnesses started atlking to me on the street. I politly told them "did you know that Adam had two wives? It's in the Bible" (which, cording to somew interetations,it is. Pretty soon, one started walking away, and the other started talking on a cell phone, clearly faking a call. They were tring to get rid of ME. I considered that a victory.
I never answer my door. I just let my pit bull peak out the window at them
good job
My son and his friends the mid 2000s while in High School wanted a counter balance to Christian Club at school. They wanted Pagan/Multi Religion Club. They wanted a space to discuss and debate and educate members in a variety of belief or lack there of, Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic, Wiccan, etc. A place ALL beliefs could come together in a safe space. They were immediately told they would need a teacher or administrator on campus to sponsor the Club. The kids asked EVERYONE and were consistently told no. Finally a teacher pulled them off to the side and privately and secretly let the kids know the truth, that all the educators were informed if anyone sponsored this club admin would find a reason to fire them. These teachers were threatened with firing! But Christian Club still continues to this day.
It's shameful! The religious right push more and more people AWAY from religion by their behavior!
This proposed club would be our RE class in the UK.
That is disgusting. I feel that your son, and friends, were in the right. Let's learn about each other and their beliefs. It leads to better understanding of one another, encourages unity, makes us a better society. Love and understanding bring us together.
@Gypsyart : where was this? On the upside, times have changed to where if that happened today it would roll the red carpet out for a lawsuit.
Christianity and Christians are so toxic
@@PoochieCollins ONLY if the parents of those children can pony up a half a million dollars to take the case through to the SCOTUS... and depending upon the state, if they lose, they could be ordered to pay the legal costs of the school district.
It takes a good bit of money to stand up for yourself, esp in court
Religion is allowed in schools................................ as long as it is MY religion. Typical America.
Nail on the head. And it's a bad idea
That's an illogical conclusion, you can say that about most middle eastern countries too
This is "typical religious bigots", America isn't the only place in the world with problems, we have to deal with ignorant people globally, they just need to be curtailed and reminded that everyone else's beliefs matter too
I think the Christian right would have had the same reaction if there was an Islamic club
It's not just freedom of religion, it's freedom FROM religion.
So true !!!
🤔🤔🤔 AMÉRICAINS !!!
What's wrong with you ? I am so glad to be French 😀😍
This reminds me of a joke:
- You know, satanists don't believe in literal Satan.
- So how do you call those who do?
- Christians.
🤣🤣🤣
@Mike you're off to hell then
@Mike Which non-existent God?
Which set of rules?
Yours. Obviously.
@Mike
"Religion is a lot like a penis; It's fine to have one, but don't force it down my throat."
@Mike Satan only exists in YOUR book.
Other books are available.
Religion should probably not be in the school period. If a person prays, they should do it silently.
Are we at the point that we can label Christianity as a extremist group or terrorist group?
It's a hate group
1 B.C.E.
Truth they are nuts
@@davidrichardson4131 Just easily led and gullible while putting far too much thought into the genitals of others.
Some of the more extreme parts of it certainly.
I'm a boomer and a Christian, but I don't believe in having ANY religious clubs in public schools. If you allow for ONE religious group, then you have to allow for ALL religious groups, regardless of the religion. It's not the public school's job to teach your kid a belief, that's you or your particular church's job.
That's what the folks who wrote the constitution believed in and for good reason!
No, it's no one's job to teach any belief. Children should be taught how to use critical thinking to come to their OWN beliefs. We have ways to discern truth from fiction and none of those methods are found in any religious texts. They're not foolproof by any means. Human beings are expert at deceiving themselves but if you use skepticism properly and consistently you can do pretty well.
It's better said by others I think. "Don't teach children what to think, teach them HOW to think.
I fundamentally disagree, I think Christianity can stand up in the marketplace of ideas.
@@makeupandtheology1821 What you think doesn’t matter. What you can demonstrate to be true does. Can you demonstrate any supernatural claim to be true?
It’s so important we remind the extreme right that everyone else has the same rights they do.
As a Jew in the Baptist Bible Belt ,I’m constantly asked to defend my beliefs and why should THEY become Jewish. My response is always, Jews don’t proselytize and the only reason to become Jewish is because YOU want to.
My response is that they worship a Jewish man. Jesus was never anything but a Jew who practiced Judaism. So, just like his first non Jewish followers, they should convert to Judaism and become followers of the Nazarene. In the beginning, you were required to convert and followJewish law to become a follower of the Nazarene. Jesus was never a Christian. He was always a practicing Jew.
I'm a formerly Southern Baptist atheist Satanist Jew. :D
@@squirrelly68 so typical. 😆
“Keep vour myth out of my life,
and I will leave your myth alone.”
There’s no hate like Christian love
people love their sin more than they love God and dont want to reminded of their sin until its too late and they find themselves in hell with an eternity of regret. Satan just want to keep you in the dark until your death...then it's too late. True Christians always end up persecuted as Jesus was for telling you the truth. Sinners hate truth just like I did
@@mikealessi7006 Awwww you’re so persecuted!! Poor you!! You can shove your flag up your dirty asshole sideways until you throw up stars and stripes. “God” doesn’t love anyone if he allows billions of people to suffer and die and torture them forever because they didn’t stroke his ego hard enough. Freaks like you are why we should reopen the asylums.
@@mikealessi7006 Do you love god or just afraid of hell?
@@harrytan5579 when I wasn't saved I was in fear of hell. Now that I can trust the promises of God through his grace. Thats what faith is. Faith in his blood that paid the price of hell that I deserved.
It's not Christians that are called to hate its the world that hates God that judges sin. Jesus said:
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:19 KJV
As someone who escaped a mild fundamentalist cult, I promise you wouldn't even have to make it "satanic." If you made it an "angel" club or a "mother earth" club, they'd lose their minds all on their own.
True
True.
But go for gold, I want one of them to have a heart attack just hearing about it.
wait ...what ...there's such a thing as "mild" fundamentalism ...isn't that technically an oxymoron 😂
@@StruggleGaming Allowing them to unravel and come unglued publicly over an "angel" club or "mother earth" club would be so much fun though. Imagine trying to defend themselves at a school board meeting 😂
BUt tHE aNgELs!!! iTS iDoLAtrY!!!
@@redpillpusher you could argue that the more "mild" (or covert) one is, the scarier it gets, because it can't be reported 😔 I call it "mild" because it wasn't FLDS or Jonestown... But, there was definitely some terrifying and surreal nonsense going down.
My Dad used to let all religious door knockers in. He would offer them a seat, get them all a beer, then turn the sports up and watch his sports. On commercials he would go to the bathroom, then bring them a new beer regardless if they’d open it or not. After a while no one knocked on the door anymore. Which was a bummer, because it was really entertaining to watch how offended the knockers would get. I almost forgot, the louder they tried to talk the louder the tv would get.
hahahahahahahahahahahah
Aaawww your Dad's awesome.
Children should be protected from all religions. Leave them be until they reach adulthood and can make their own choices.
Would you say the same about children choosing their own gender before they are grown enough? I highly doubt it.
@@user-in1hh2nh9v cry about it. I can't wait for us to force your kid to change genders
My religious boss once said to me as a salesman for the company "every knock on the door is an opportunity" and in front of the whole office, I said "no sometimes it's just a Jehovah's Witness" he turned red a walked away.
Dave Barry pretty much summed it up when he wrote, "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them."
i like that and have not herd it until now
Fact
So true!
Thats a common phrase among pagan pedophiles. Those parents don't want libshit pedophiles sharing their satanic "views"with their kids. It's a 2 way street groomer.
no true really not true
ANNA! You're CORRECT! I have never seen a news report of a coalition of Rabbis and their followers protesting at a school board etc., over not forcing their religion on students.
I had not thought about this until she talked about it in this video. From what I've seen, it's a very true statement.
No, but they are militant and murderous in Israel, which is a religious state.
Love this!! I would totally join if I were a kid in grade school!!! I grew up atheist and thank my parents everyday!!!
No this is wrong!
@@enriquemosqueda5603 trying to convert other ppls children is what is wrong. Christianity is spreading hate, fear, and demanding we all convert, and live like them. We see you acting like Nazi, causing insurrection, burning books, and chasing our kids to join you in this fear/hate fest. The louder someone declares they are holy the closer you better watch them. Matthew 6: 1-12. They have their reward. Try reading and praying about the Bible. It is how I read my way out of hate.
@@enriquemosqueda5603 you are wrong
They shouldn't allow any religious clubs in public schools.
Including the LGBTQUIA religion.
...but they did for Christian clubs. That's the issue being brought up here.
THAT MIGHT be a GOOD outcome of having a SATAN and a phony CRISTIAN (really NON christians) group
They said they wanted religion in school, but they didn’t realize that they opened the door to other religions.
Conservatives strongly support THEIR freedom of speech and religion. It's all about privilege and selfishness.
My dad trapped a group of witnesses folks in a hot garage by blocking the exit with his body and debated them so long that they never returned.
No bec you describe it like trapping ants or bugs in a cup it something,💀
"It's wrong and shouldn't be in the school" is the whole point they're trying to make about the Good News Club?
I worked for a US company in Canada and I saw a friend had an interesting pendant on their necklace and asked about it. She got nervous and stuffed the pendant into her shirt. I asked what I did wrong and I was sorry if I offended her with my question. She quietly explained that is was a Wiccan symbol and that she had recently been pulled into her bosses office as another person had seen it and made a complaint that it offended them. I was shocked as it was a neat design and had seen that several others on our team had crosses on necklaces and they werent asked to hide their beliefs.
Im not a religious person but I am interested in learning about the beliefs of others and I asked another friend about thair faith (they happened to be Jewish) and was told that if we were overheard we could be written up or suspended if someone of the "christian" faith could complain that us talking was harrassment in the workplace.
Cmon people we are all different and I choose to celebrate those differences. How boring would it be if we were all the same?
If we were all the same it would not take much time before you would be singled out because of the color of your eyes. Being different means that you are stronger in what you believe in yourself than what others believe as a group.
Nice story. You just make that up or are you writing a fiction novel? Lolz. It's pathetic that you make up Jewish fairytales for attention. Is that the latest fad at the synagogue? Did they make lampshades out of her too? Put it in your diary Ann frank
@@itsmaam go troll someone else that wants to hear your bs
@Madison 07 it's from a movie about the holohoax. Fuzzy marmot is making up the story. Pretending like jews are oppressed or something.
@@itsmaam a holocaust denier your other statements on this page make perfect sense now. You need to be treated like a German denier, forced to take the field trip to the sights in Germany and Poland that prove it. I am not Jewish but it upsets me to hear ppl like you deny it happened. It means you will try to repeat it here. We won’t allow that.
“Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.”~Unknown
Victor J. Stenger.
Love this comment!!!
👍
yep, religion does that. Relationship, however, with God flies you right into peace, love and joy!
@@shirney1 *a building
The need to accommodate the beliefs of everyone, makes this planet one messed up place. Religion is the problem.
Religon is a curse on humanity.
After school programs in public schools should focus on educational development (science, physical ed, arts, …) rather than religious beliefs. This from a Christian.
From the After School Satan mission statement: "Proselytization is not our goal, and we’re not interested in converting children to Satanism. After School Satan Clubs will focus on free inquiry and rationalism, the scientific basis for which we know what we know about the world around us."
@@fiercelytrans1599 then why not call it something religiously unrelated like oh I don't know, "Philosophy club"?
Don't deny it, this did in part have religious symbology tied to it from the get go. You're not gonna name a group after a religious monarch like freaking lucifer unless you INTEDED to derive or pay homage to THE IDEA of lucifer or satanism.
That would be like me opening a restaurant called "Leafy Greens" and strictly serving meat-only foods. You're being dishonest and trying (like the people defending this) to use plausible deniability in order to deny it and in addition make the ones against this look crazy.
"It's about philosophy and science" my ass - then name the damned thing after Socrates or Nietzsche ! You know, ACTUAL philosophers. Bunch of liars
Freedom of religion. It's a shame that they only recognizes the 2nd Amendment. They really don't understand what it means.
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Kelly, you don't understand words. An after school club isn't a religion, minors don't have the same rights until they're adults, and the 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with anything. Just something else you're randomly mad at.
@@whateverwhatever4026
Cool story, bro....
@@colonelcorbin Cool nothing comment because you couldn't think of one....Bruh.
@kyle the expert, destiny, says they are so delicate ATM that we need to treat them as if any trigger will set them off, ending their brain function.
As a devout Mormon I say all for one and one for all. I have no problem with this so long as it is not state-funded. We should all be free to decide for ourselves what spiritual path we follow.
I think you missed the point. There’s nothing spiritual about the church of satan. It’s not a religious thing what so ever.
Do you think we should also be free to leave one spiritual path and follow another, or be free to follow none?
@@diaboloavocado yes I do.
@@joshuatryon3874 glad to hear it.
Do3s that mean you don't agree with the shunning practice Mormons inflict on ex-Mormons, especially apostates?
"Religion is a lot like a penis; It's fine to have one, but don't force it down my throat."
I wonder if calling the "Critical Thinking Club" would provoke an identical reaction from religious fundamentalists who require belief without evidence, the definition of faith.
A friend and his wife moved in with me after his job had shut down. His wife and I were working and his new job hadn't started yet so he was home during the day. He had just got out of the shower when the door bell rang. Nobody knew he was there yet so he knew it wasn't anyone for him. He looked out the window and saw a pack of Jehovah Witnesses at the door. He looked to make sure there were no children. He dropped his towel and opened the door to greet them. Needless to say they haven't been back since.
I have a similar story. Mine involves a friend telling the uninvited visitors that she intended to have sex and they were welcome to proselytize whilst she carried on about her day as planned. They left swiftly and did not return.
everybody is free to not practice any religion, its called freedom
1st Amendment Right.
@@KrustyKlown Read Thomas Jeffersons Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom.
Probably should have called it the "Atheist Club" and leave it at that. Freedom of religion means having the choice not to believe. Proselytizing is the number one reason atheism and agnosticism are growing by leaps and bounds.
They should've called it the cult of reason...
They can’t call it the atheist club. Atheists are not organized so they don’t meet the requirements of protection. They can’t get tax free status either. Best to poke them in the eye with Satan. They think they are out there so might as well give it to them. After all the point they are trying to make is trolling for converts among minors is crossing the line. Leave children alone at school.
The uptight community i live in lost their minds over this coming on the Next Door app. I was like "If you get rid of the christian club. they will go away" Yet, they don't seem to get it. I love this groups approach. It's quite effective. Hail Satan!
People threaten me with hell when I say to them: "Divine law only applies to people who assert divine law exists."
But, but, My Religion is the correct religion because it's my religion! Therefore it's okay to force it on everyone because my religion is the right religion because it's my religion. Got all that?
Aren't there special places where people can practice their faith...like Churches or Synagogues?
The more someone forces their beliefs onto others, the more I resist such beliefs.
This was many years ago back in the early nineties. I had some Jahova's Witnesses come knocking on my door. I just told them that I worshipped the devil. They turned around and left without saying a word.
You should have started “speaking in tongues”. That would have put some pep in their step.
Hi F.Z.! Haha, I pretty much did the exact same thing; was early Two thousands “(oughts”) & 2 naïve & unsuspecting, yet programmed Mormons knocked on the door; I opened it & before they could proceed to impart their “good news” I beat ‘‘em to it, by promptly reciting the (spoken) intro to Iron Maiden’s “Number of the Beast”….(with deliberate slow creepy British horror movie actor’s voice & inflection, for added emphasis)
Needless to say, they stood there in shocked silence, before turning on their Mormon heels; & swiftly making their getaway….. unforgettable classic moment!
This is great, but not quite the best I've heard: when I was a kid, a friend's aunt told me her story about finally getting the JW's to stop coming to her door. She was agnostic, and was so tired of being bothered that one day when there was a knock at the door and she noticed it was them, she quickly stripped completely naked before answering. They never came to her door again! 😂😂😂
I just slam the door on them..
These are the sam people who are outraged over school shootings and People like Darrell Brooks? A counterweight to a religion that promotes morality and love for your neighbor? Get your priorities strait? There is an actual Satan. Read the Bible. Truth exists even if you don’t believe.😊
I want to start an after school spaghetti monster club. We get to talk like pirates ever Friday! Ramen
See Beau of the Fifth Column.
Santa? Santana?
Shut up neckbeard, no one cares
There is already a church of the flying spaghetti monster. You could combine with them and create the ultimate after school spaghetti experience 😉😂
Will you trans all the kids like the other losers that mock Christ?
I’ve always been confused by how evangelicals act like Satan is more powerful than God. They panic and go absolutely insane over Satan. But isn’t God omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent? Satan is none of those things according to their own Bible!?! Ignorance is a disease in these people.
Evangelicals always believe that thier enemies are both weak and strong. Its a part of their persecution complex. They NEED to feel always attacked even though their God is all powerful.
poor POOR xtians with their god so weak that gays OFFEND him!! poor POOR xtians with their god so insecure that he'll torture you for ETERNITY for not "believing" in him!!
and.. poor POOR xtians with their god so "loving" that he'll drown the whole earth.. all its occupants.. including infants and animals.. just because he can
that "god" is an IMORRAL THUG OF A MONSTER.. that "god" deserves ZERO praise or worship!!
their "god" sounds more like satan than.. SATAN
"To us it's like talking about Dumbledore"....that line was gold
What are they crying about; they didnt cry about forcing prayer groups in schools and religious remarks on coins and auto tags. Even though the constitution clearly states that church and state are to be kept separate. So don't complain because you licked the tip of the poisoned arrow to see if it worked.
In the context that they think trump is the "Second Coming of Jesus", I understand where they are coming from. They have no critical thinking skills, "poorly educated" as trump likes to say.
As has been said many times, "Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion."
As someone raised in the Christian church, and in a Jewish community, who left the church many years ago, let people worship whatever deity they want. Don't force your religion on me, and I won't force my agnostic belief on you.
Back in the 90s, as a teen, I'd drop a hit or 2 of LSD and go in front of a goth club and have religious debates with street preacher Christians holding a 10ft cross telling people they're going to Hell for going into this club.
It was always entertaining that my tripping mind would counter all their arguments using the Bible against them.
I still do it now, except without the LSD
Making a Satan club is not as bad as making Satan.
This is great and the only way to get rid of the intrusion of fanatical Christianity into public and governmental areas. Either everyone is represented or it remains neutral.
Even if they actually believed in Satan, their group should be allowed if laws allow religious groups in schools. In fact there are religious, non-violent satanic groups, who believe in a different version of Satan who is not the king of evil. I don't agree with having religious groups in public grounds, but if they're allowed, they should all be allowed.
Ex-actly
Freedom of Religion is the freedom to practice your beliefs, with the responsibility to allow other people to practice their beliefs. It isn't freedom of religion if you're "using it" to take away the freedoms of others.
Freedom of Religion is personal. It's not about imposing your religion on others. It's about practicing it yourself. Anything else is just hypocrisy.
'Be good slaves and you will be rewarded in Heaven for eternity, but if you are bad slaves you will burn in hell for eternity'. Whoever invented Christianity was a genius.
I had a a white, southern, evangelical Christian missionary tell me that a verse in the New Tesatmant said that a slave shouldbe the best slave that he or she could possibly be. All that did is make me realize that I can not believe that everything in the Bible is true.
Religion is Prison for your mind. Set yourself Free
@@milascave2 I went to a small village school in the UK in the early 70's. Every morning we would have to sing a hymn and say a prayer. We even had to thank Ghods for our lunch and on Friday the local Rector would teach us Iron Age Fairy Tales (AKA the Bible). Fortunately I was intelligent enough to shuck off this mind programming.
@@milascave2 I appreciate your rational response.
"All you can do is enjoy the things that you've worked for, because in the end, nobody knows what really happens after you die."
Ecclesiastes 3:22
What is so ironic is how compassionate Satanists are compared to Christians.
Yes. The most altruistic person I know is one of my fraternity brothers and he is a part of TST. Most Christians? Horrible people.
This is an example of effective activism. FYI, the point is to upset people. They’d ignore a Spaghetti Monster Club, cause it’s funny and harmless. Ultimately, they will end the program in relation with the school and that is the goal.
Hail Satan!
These are the seven tenets of TST. And is why I am a proud congregate.
1.
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
So I'm pagan, I worship as my ancestors did. So when jehovah's witnesses came to my door, I would tell them, I'd be happy to listen about their faith, if they'd listen about mine.
It was their fault if they assumed I was another type of Christian. Lol!
Especially if it was younger people, or women...they sent elders to my house a couple of times, wanting to know what I had said to their youngins! Lol!
True story! Lol!
Namaste brothas and sistas😎✌💛🧡💜💙💚❤
Really wish there was video! 🤣
@@LucareonVee when I start asking things like, if a woman bears life, then she lives closer to God then most men, so why are we second class citizens?
The goddess is the oldest image of god that exists, why do you think that is?
By the time the tea or coffee was made (many of them dont do caffeine, and I being a good kitchen witch always have good herbal teas😆), their expressions were priceless!😉
Had more than a few of their women ask me a lot of questions!😄😄😄
Peace my friend, and namaste 😎🙏💛🧡💜💙💚❤
They always just assume everyone else is some type of christian it's so true!🤣
I'm not a Pagan, but I used to tell the JW's that I was. They always just fled immediately. If they had asked me about my religion, I'm not sure what I would have said, but it never came to that. They just turned around and ran.
I did have a kind of satanic looking door knocker so maybe that helped.
@@petem.3719 😂😂😂
Exactly, when you're not religious saying "hail Satan" is the same thing as saying "hail Hydra" . It has no real meaning lol
Haven't these people heard of the church of the flying spaghetti monster. It's wonderful.
may His noodly appendages touch us all, RAMEN
Yeah, I don't really care if a Christian club holds meetings on school grounds, but if you're allowing one religious exemption you've got to allow them all, even 'Satanists'.
As an atheists, all of these religious people just assume that we’re all angry and bitter. It’s actually Christians who are angry and insecure.
They also assume we’re secretly Christian’s who prayed for something and did t get it, so now we’re just angry at god.
you know christians battle aganst evil, right ? i know you are stupid. i bet you dnt haw kids. just think you want your kid to go satan club? them maby come home and hit you whit hammer. or kill your pets. you know what happens people like that? they called psygopats.
@@samppasamFIN wtf are you taking about?! Lol u ok grublin boi? (Grublins are a creature from the legend of spyro dawn of the dragon video game) lol
@@samppasamFIN you obviously know nothing. Or the message these people are trying to point out. So here's my advice to you. Burn the Bible it's not illegal Christianity has no authority.
@@samppasamFIN lmao
Some years ago, this Freethinker became aware of a high school preventing/opposing an After School Atheist Club. Samuel Clemens High School Principal changed his mind when they became aware of the man the school was named after.
I am atheist. I love this. And I *love* the branding! After School Satan has chased them out of some schools just by the threat of coming in; and the acronym ASS makes it impossible to dodge Satan that way. It's perfect.
Recommended reading, "The Swerve, How the World became Modern" by Stephen Greenblatt.
I'm Christian, I believe in science, and I'm not mad at this. This club is testing the religious freedom of this school/court ruling, as they should. I do not want the US to become a theocracy. We've already seen what that looks like around the world.
Thank you. So many Christians seem not to realize that they benefit as much from secularism as non-Christians.
Careful you don't talk like that around the others in your church. They'll label you a Satanist in disguise.
I think the two clubs should have debates. That would be cool as F.
"We need more religion in schools!"
"Wait, not THAT religion!"
JAjajajaj. Yup
We younger generations with children find it as funny as our real kids do. Also, wouldn't it be nice if Christians freaked out as much about how many kids we've lost in mass shootings?
Born and raised a Jehovah’s Witness and I always loved when the people at the doors wanted to debate. Made me realize how wrong I was though lolol
When my parents divorced, my sister and I lived with my mom, as was usual at that time, and she, being vulnerable, got into Jehovah's Witnesses...from when I was 7 until I had to leave home at 17 due to the unhappiness and abuse from them and an undiagnosed bipolar mom. She was not diagnosed until I was in my 40's.
I was forced to do that door to door stuff every Saturday all morning literally, and Sunday after 3 hours of services, for another 2-3 hours. Not to mention meetings on Tues at someone's home for 2 hours, AND either Thurs or Fri nights for another 2 hours at the 'Kingdom Hall'. PLUS, you have to study and read the material prior, for all meetings, using either their books, or their magazines as reading/answering questions for those meetings. Those meetings consist of one of the elders reading the assigned material AGAIN, out loud from the stage, and asking the questions you should have studied for, and raising hands and answering aloud from the congregation. Regurgitating whatever they want you to learn, and drilling it into your heard several times in that week by repetition.
HORRENDOUS..and expected to be doing your school homework, too. AND celebrate NO holidays...including your birthday. They claim it is a day to honor God for making you, not to honor your journey on the road. You get NOTHING to look forward to, nothing but 'eternal life on a paradise earth'...MAYBE....if you are deemed worthy apparently, as your goal. That's it. This life is to see if you deserve that vision. That always seemed off to me..even as a young child.
Sad to hear about all this. My daughters best friend has parents that are split up. The dad is Jahobos Witness. He is very mean and abusive… on top of not celebrating holidays or birthdays. Super sad situation
The Christian: "How can you worship Satan?"
The Satanist: "I don't. Satanists don't typically believe in a literal Satan. It's a metaphor."
The Christian: "Well, then what do you call people who do believe in a literal Satan?"
The Satanist: "Christians."
You can just say "Don't" instead of "Don't typically", there is no well-documented modern movement that worships satan who also actually call themselves satanists. The association of the word with any such group serves no real purpose other than propaganda when there are individual terms for the people who theistically worship Satan.
@shoulderutube It's not much of a feat to convince the world that an invisible man with superpowers who was created by a different invisible man with superpowers doesn't exist. Especially when the invisible creator is supposedly all powerful yet the created invisible being rules the world because....reasons? Oh and the invisible creator will torture you for eternity if you disagree with him, but he loves you!
@shoulderutube a pretty crap trick considering that the majority of the world's population subscribe to various forms of Abrahamic religion and as such believe Satan exists.
@shoulderutube Or early churches realized that the carrots weren't enough incentive to get people to tithe. They needed a stick too.
Grow up, there are satanist out and about.
Let's start an after school Cthulhu club. With readings from the good book, The necronomicon.
Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn
Ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn
Ia is Cthulhu fhtagn
As a vegetarian I have been known to praise Seitan.
Lol
I think the branding is perfectly appropriate for this issue.
Freedom of religion needs to be accompanied by freedom FROM religion.
"Of" equates to the word 'from' dating back centuries (OG, OE).
E.g.,
"OF Thomas and Ingrid, was begat John."
"Partake fruit OF this tree."
"OF Mice and Men."
"Steel is made OF iron and carbon."
German: aus/von.
It's usually only Christian nationalists who conflate the two as justification for a theofascist planet.
The true problem here is that for many Evangelicals they embrace the idea that other Americans should NOT have the right to believe something else. It shows no understanding of the founding fathers and the principals upon which this country was founded.
yes they are the Western Taliban , they think "secular" is a sex act ,
Such hypocrites! Out of all religion they are the worst.
So you resist faith and practice degeneracy...?
@@eb1247 the christians in question are the degenerates here. And faith has no place in any decision making process. Only facts. Sit down before you get sat down, zealot. You can either join us in the 21st century or others will drag you there 🤷🏻♂️
@@eb1247 degeneracy and faith are not necessarily related. If you want to make that argument though, like a moron, then look at the prison system. Everyone there is Christian.
When christian’s use god to project their inner hate, doesn’t that mean the devil has already contaminated their soul?
No, that's not true. Real CHRIST FOLLOWERS want to save others from going to hell. I can't speak for every Christian. Some really are hateful, not all of them, and you can't assume things. And the real hateful people of this world are the ones who try and blind people from the TRUTH....GODS WORD IS THE TRUTH. FACTS don't care about feelings. FACTS are real LOVE, and sugar-coated lies are hate. GOD IS LOVE and TRUTH. the devil is lies and deceive
@@kelquest1294 Save others by what means? By taking away a people’s culture, history and legacy? Assimilate them to your beliefs because you deem them savages? I speak of false prophets who say they believe in God, but don’t act or speak in a Godly manner. The evangelical pastors who thru donation to the Lord, buy multi million dollar homes and jet planes. The politicians who through God and country pass laws that enrich themselves and their overlords and have their acolytes do crimes for them. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say all Christians. Every Christian is given free will to choose their path.
@Ruben Rebenz culture, history legacy doesn't matter when the world passes. We take nothing with us when we die. JESUS isn't coming back to take sides he's coming back to take over, and GODS word will always be TRUTH the beginning and always. And that's on periodt. You're either with GOD or with the devil. There's no in-between. Saving people by telling to stop sinning and accept JESUS is the most loving way to save people because there is no other way. This world is Fallen and wicked and has an end. But GODS WORD LIVES ON FOREVER and that's the way it is. Being rich isn't going to save you being religious isn't going to save you. Thinking your doing good deeds is not going to save you. ONLY JESUS SAVES. the politicians and all that government stuff are with the devil and the left that rebels against GOD. GOD IS EVERYTHING. CHANGED MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER STILL IN BATTLE BUT I WILL ALWAYS HAVE FAITH.❤️🔥✝️
@@kelquest1294 The “christian” right uses God to fool their acolytes. Would Jesus be conservative or democrat these days. I know my faith doesn’t make me feel righteous over other people. They’ll choose their own path, be it heaven or hell.
@Ruben Rebenz GODS WORD IS EVERYTHING, EVERYONE NEEDS JESUS. THIS PLANET IS TOO WICKED AND FALLEN. I RATHER LISTEN TO GOD THAN MAN THAT ARENT FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. Don't come at me with bs at the end of the day FACTS ARE FACTS and it don't care about your feelings.
I was a little gay kid, I know what I was even as a small child, brought up in an Evangelical church constantly being made to feel terrible about myself. I never believed the 2 big lies, Christianity and Santa Claus, but it was always shoved down my throat. Oddly, now as an adult, I gravitated back to religion for different reasons, I found a reconciling ministry based on science and acceptance, and the positive messages in the bible. During my confirmation I was asked why our church I said, honestly, "my name is still on the register of a hate church in my hometown, your church claims it will do all the heavy lifting of transferring me off their registry and onto your, so there." Their response, "good enough, we're on it!" Now I go to church every Sunday hear a beautiful message from people who really love and care about me and my people. I truly believe the one thing that scares conservatives more than Wokeness in the growing rise in the Christian Left.
Good for you, hon. My best friend believed God hated him because he was gay. His religion and preacher stepdad taught him that. He died believing that.
Nobody should be taught that a God of love hates them for who they are.
the mark of true Christianity is love, empathy, caring, kindness in act and word both. It seems some so-called Christians are only about the yakking about it, but not showing the fruits of what real Christianity is. I am glad you found your church family that practices love and acceptance.
I like Christ. It's Christians I don't like. They don't act like Christ.
-Gandhi
Considering what is now known about ghandi who the hell cares what he thought?
I am a devout Christian. And I find this hilarious!
We live in strange times when Satanists are the good guys and Christian are spreading hate and evil.
i mean it's true
I would say that people claiming to be Christians have spread hate and evil for centuries.
I was born Catholic, my mother baptized all us kids (9) as Catholics, then the RW Christians decided it was necessary to STEAL us defenseless little children from our parents in 1962, when I was 2 years old. We were raised as Lutherans since we were denied our right to being raised by our Natural parents BECAUSE we were born Indigenous!
I was and I still wrestle with the Trauma of being STOLEN from our parents and we were denied the opportunity to be raised by our natural and rightful parents by; The Christians!
I am horrified and traumatized by "THE Christian CHURCH".
For victims of the Sixties SCOOP like myself and my siblings, there is NO larger Criminal Organization of Pius religious zealots than those who represent the oppressive murderers, rapists, pedophiles and thieving Agenda of Christianity.
There is NO other religion that has spread more hate and hatred of Indigenous peoples across the globe, that even comes close to the murderous rampage beset upon peaceful native tribes like the Fathers of Christianity have unleashed against our native people.
I want to give a great big THANK-you to the Young Turks for "Calling out the hypocrisy and corruption" that Christianity and the Christian Churches expose the citizens of North America to each and every day.
I have so much respect for you sharing that story. I'm sorry you went through all that. But appreciate you sharing the hidden history of that hypocritical religion.
Thier leaders literally classified black Africans as non han and gave permission to Portugal to begin the transatlantic slave trade.
The Catholic church literally celebrated Hitler birthday for years and stood with the Nazis.
Mein Kampf was influenced by Martin Luther. Ask any Neo Nazi or KKK member. Thats why they love him. AH was a Christian but they try to hide that.
CRY HARDER! The Catholic Church is the synagogue of Satan, they worship Semiramis and Nimrod professor genius. You don’t know the first thing about the Babylonian mother goddess worship you were “dEnIeD” and you don’t know how good God really is.
You have NO IDEA what real suffering is, if I told my life story on here you’d feel blessed to have at least had a roof over your head and a little food to eat.
Also this makes more sense than mystical sky fairy.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS
I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To wilfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V - Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Hahaha I said the same thing out loud wuth Ana when Cyenk talk about how parents and other GOPs will think science is part of satanism, we both said, "They already do, Cyenk!" HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm 65 years old. When I was in elementary school, a public school in southern Louisiana, we had what is called Catechism class at the end of the school day, for a half hour. Our school day ended at 3:15pm I was not a Catholic thus my parents did not agree to this practice. Thus I was allowed to leave school early each day... The area of Southern Louisiana is around 95% Catholic. Both my parents were raised Catholic, but they left their Catholic past after being married. My point is, the issue of religion in public schools goes back a long time. It has no place in a public school, not then nor now !
You can’t really ban it as a club at the school. But, it 100% shouldn’t be part of the curriculum.
I actually remember Catechism class. It was so stupid, especially as a non-believing child (Catholic family). Even as a little kid, it all seemed so obviously made-up.
Right there with you and in the same location.
@@jaycol21 Religions have entire buildings for them to operate in. We call them, for example, Churches. There is no building for Chess, so we hold THOSE at school, but after hours.
@@markhackett2302 While I think it’s stupid, some kids ARE really into Jesus. If they want to form some little after school club to talk about it, there is no real reason to stop them. As long as they’re not coming at the LGBTQ kids or Non-Christian kids and aren’t trying to create rules for the other students, it’s fine. OPTIONAL after school clubs for your hobbies is a big part of the whole school experience.
Chances are if you let the kids talk about it amongst themselves, they’ll probably start deconverting each other anyway…especially if they’re older kids in a mixed gender group.
Don’t become the thing you hate in an attempt to fight it off.
The point is to freak them out and make them understand that this is what it feels like when they push their nonsense on us.
Makes no sense. Kids aren't captured and dragged into the Christian club after the school bell rings at the end of the day. People join the club if they want to.
@@X2LR8 The kids aren't dragged into going to the non-Christian clubs, either. So, why should the former be able to meet after school but not the latter?
I used to have to tell my radical Christian foster dad that when someone says dancing with the devil...it's not literal. It's a figure of speech. The fact that we have to break it down for them to understand like children is amazing.
typical dumbass leftist comment: cite one jackass christian who got "something" wrong and ALL christians are such jackasses. nice logic, child
Finally! What did you think was going to happen when you relax laws about the separation between church and state. I was waiting for this day. Where are the Wiccans?
The Wiccans are now LGBTQUIA.
Keep your Christ Doctrine off school grounds. You got your Church to do that in, how greedy they are.
Yes!
I'm a Pagan and we don't proselytize either. It's endlessly entertaining when the door to door fire and brimstone people come to my door. Without fail, they always show up around Halloween when we've got a full graveyard in the front yard.
Once they came on Halloween and made some unhappy looking kids ask if I wanted to pray. I declined and gave all the kids full sized candy bars.
Candy is no good for children, a kid is a young animal referance. halloween is a satanic fest. It opens doors you can not see, and lets things in that you can not see. I feel sorry for your kids, more than i feel sorry 4 you.
Oh my god! Candy! Oh no! The kids will die! Halloween! Oh my god! The portal to hell! The world will end! The sky will fall! Ahhhhhhh! Hell no! We’re all going to die now!
@@sirprize.7472 candy IS good for children, and chocolate is a fine drug for improving mood, and mental stability. All thing in moderation. All Hallows Eve is an ancient celebration to honor and remember one’s ancestors. Halloween is nothing more than a commercialization of a pagan based festival. It is believed that veil between the living and the dead is at its thinnest at the end of October/ first of November. Folks would gather at dusk for food and music, light candles in gourds or whatever they had, and some would dress “ scary” to dance and sing, to keep evil spirits away. Graves were visited, flowers gathered, all sorts of things to pay homage to the dead. Trick or treat is purely for profit, nothing more. And “Satan” is purely a Christian construct. Even if you believe in God, you should have a better understanding of Lucifer than a fear of kids in Halloween costume to get a little candy. Sheesh.
I'm a pagan witch and I remember the time when a couple of very nice looking LDS boys came knocking on my door. Unfortunately my door opened outward so I had a problem closing it but I kept telling them I was not a Christian and I didn't want to hear their Bible verse, mostly because I probably know the Bible better than them, and one of them kept insisting and I kept saying I'm not a Christian. They kept asking me what my religion was so I told them I was a witch. You've never seen two young men go down a flight of 18 steps faster🤣🤣🤣
@@tanawilliams7498 lol, I have had the same experience, many times. I enjoy talking to the young people, though. I don’t mind them praying for me either, I’ll take all the goodness I can get! But, I have a mean streak. I ask about the five things Jesus said you must do/ believe to go heaven. Then I tell them the story of a young Native American who lived 300 years ago, loved his wife, took good care of his kids, followed the teachings of his elders, sweated, prayed, and believed in his spiritual life, but had never heard of the Christian God, or Jesus, and ask if he went to hell for eternity when he died. Then I tell them I don’t want to worship their God. End of story.
Well, first of all, they use Satan as a way to troll, but they also see the figure of Satan along the lines of Milton's Paradise Lost and Romantic Visionaries like William Blake...wherein the mythological figure represents rebellion against established systems of oppressive power and tyranny. So the "branding" goes much deeper than just trolling. And while I get Cynk's point, he needs to understand, that for those of us whom Christian religious supremacists dehumanize as "other" to such a degree that we fear for our safety, having Christian organizations supported and given a voice in the communities and schools we are apart of is likewise leaves us feeling extremely threatened.
This is our reality. So, who gives a damn that these nutball religious supremacists feel "threatened" by a group of Atheists, Agnostics, LGBTQIA, etc. meeting up under the banner of "Satan" to support each other and get involved in political activism for a common goal of equity and equality under the law. Screw them.
So, many years ago. I decided to go to college. The college was located in Pittsburgh, PA. I moved in with my cousin. Who is a goth. His apartment was decorated accordingly. With skulls, and black curtains. The whole dark and dreary. There was one day I was home alone and the doorbell rang. I went to the door to find two Jehovah Dimbwitts. I greeted them and invited them in to talk. The two definitely seemed nervous as they took a seat on the couch. They were looking everywhere in abject horror. My quick thinking was to ask if they wanted some tea. They said yes. I went to the kitchen and grabbed the mortar and pestle on the shelf and returned to the living room pretending to be grinding tea leaves. Well on said mortar was a pentagram. I made sure it was facing the dimbwitts. I said" I think the water is almost ready" and returned to the kitchen. While in the kitchen I heard the door slam, to my surprise my guests had exited in quite a hurry. I about died laughing. To live your life in fear, especially of your "all loving god" is not life at all.
That is hilarious.🤣
Terrific story!
When I was in the fifth grade My mom started ordering books from this new encyclopedia series called man myth and magic One of the many encyclopedia sets she had bought us as kids they covered mythological all forms of magic and religion I can just imagine the reaction of some parents to these books today 🤣
The book talked about magic, myths, and religion? It sounds like the bible.
@@B_Bodziak you must have died once yes? How the fuck do you know? I don't. How do you know Zeus isn't real, did he miss a luncheon date w you?
Your mom sounds AWESOME!
One Easter I rented Monty Python and the holy grail then I got life of Bryan.
The kids liked both.
religion should not be respected at all,, if your belief has exact same circumstance as Santa Claus,, then no, ridicule is best..
"He see you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake
He knows when you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness' sake"
Checks out.
Religion is humanity's biggest problem.
I appreciate how Cenk explained how we are not mocking their religion as much as don't wrap our heads around how intensely it s followed by some, who take everything in their particular 'holy texts' as exactly the way it says, literally, for everything. It is a bit amusing to see folks think they are going to be damned forever and forever in agony.
I mock all religions! Facts not in evidence, anyone?
Funny, how it’s the wing it’s who believe “everything “ in the wholly babble, somehow ignore that ABORTION is one of Yahweh’s favorite practices, while there is NOTHING in their mythbook that says anything specific, re abortion…
We should replace bibles in court and swearing in for oaths to be done on a harry potter book or playboy magazine
"I swear on Dumbledore's beard"
Love it
When I used to work in retail, I would have people give me the Christian lines all the time. It made me feel uncomfortable so I wanted to share that discomfort, sharing is caring after all. So when they would ask me "Do you have Jesus in your heart" I would respond I am a Pastafarian (church of the flying spaghetti monster), Have you been touch by his noodly appendage. The look on their face is awesome
That line is priceless; I have got to remember that one 😂