Why the Myers-Briggs test ISN'T meaningless! (Response to Vox)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2018
  • Vox made a video claiming that the MBTI test is totally meaningless. It isn't. There are many reasons why, but in this video I tackle Vox.
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  • @Becix157
    @Becix157 5 лет назад +197

    Everyone should also remember that Wright Brothers weren't scientists or engineers but still they invented airplanes

  • @blackrabbit231
    @blackrabbit231 5 лет назад +286

    yes the test isn't meaningless yet a lot of people don't know how to use it and just use stereotypes in harmful ways...

  • @sillygoose8652
    @sillygoose8652 4 года назад +220

    MBTI Helped me a lot with understanding why I do what I do. It helped me a lot with personal growth, I most certainly don’t think it’s useless

  • @aesthetewithoutacause3981
    @aesthetewithoutacause3981 3 года назад +62

    It's not that it can't be personally valuable, it's just not scientifically valid or reliable. And it is true that almost all licensed clinicians do not use this test for that reason. MBTI was good for it's time but there are now better, more objective measures of personality such as OCEAN which are derived from factor analysis.

  • @fdvboldhjbfv8791
    @fdvboldhjbfv8791 3 года назад +39

    The Vox argument is poor, and this rebuttal is also poor.

  • @nohateoneday
    @nohateoneday 3 года назад +59

    The Myers Briggs helped me realize that I was being an unhealthy INTJ. It also helped me empathize with my family and got us through some issues I was having with socializing. The test is totally not meaningless.

  • @TeaRiker

    btw, the MBTI is just an american cultural phenomenon. In europe (I live in germany), no one ever brings it up as something important. No recruiter uses it. Not even instagram girlies identify with it. And, more importantly: It plays no role in psychology research or therapy.

  • @SHGogo-df5jr

    I'm not saying that its useless, but what about neurodivergent ppl? Things like autism fundamentally change how ppl's brains work, if a personality classification does not account for this then it needs to be updated.

  • @motz0cheeeow_rex

    I see this a lot: people critiquing myers-briggs without proper knowledge of myers-briggs.

  • @matthewchesney4772
    @matthewchesney4772 4 года назад +88

    I think a great place to start is the book gifts differing by Isabel Briggs Myers, she addresses all of Vox’s critiques and backs up the theory with a multitude of statistically sound studies. She really fleshes out the entire theory and goes into ALL of the cognitive functions. The argument that they aren’t from academia so they have nothing useful to say says more about academia than it does about the theory itself and the fact that Vox uses that as a point is elitist. Vox has a history of simmering down a complex argument with intricate nuances to a quirky little video that definitively rejects a theory based on flawed logic to appeal to someone performing a google search such as “MBTI Bad” and give them what they think is ammunition to make their point. Before accepting any overarching theory it’s important to do one’s own open source reasearch. I’m going to leave this comment on the Vox video to see what happens.

  • @kasunex1772
    @kasunex1772 4 года назад +385

    "Myers Briggs is always positive"

  • @lostathenian1836
    @lostathenian1836 5 лет назад +181

    Nobody in their right mind makes an INTP a manager.

  • @gorangelo4525
    @gorangelo4525 4 года назад +27

    Selfish, lazy and mean -

  • @joshualevan
    @joshualevan 2 года назад +9

    The 50% different results not only can mean the test takers' mindset can be flawed, but the "totally different type" could simply be the difference of one letter which could have been close to the center both times. So, in all likelihood, the each of the 50% that were different, could have been 90% the same, but a balanced/ centered binary shifted over slightly.

  • @SweetMewsic
    @SweetMewsic 4 года назад +28

    Love your sense of humor! And nobody watching the video will ever forget the term “cognitive functions (unless, perhaps, he gets started on a second bottle...).

  • @peterdentice5725
    @peterdentice5725 4 года назад +31

    I remember reading this article when it was published. I was really irritated at the arrogant pontification of their shallow depth in research.

  • @zain4019
    @zain4019 4 года назад +51

    So this entire channel started out as a diss video for Vox?

  • @darkside4566
    @darkside4566 4 года назад +43

    no kidding but this video was really funny

  • @lifeform106
    @lifeform106 3 года назад +7

    I love this video! I’m so glad you made this and the worst part is that there are people who believe the Vox video and assume it’s fake info. What’s ironic is arrogant types trust the Vox info immediately like ESTJs and ENTJs. Thomas Frank on his website got ENTJ and used this Vox video and site as a research. But of course some ENTJs are arrogant and work all day and don’t have time to do further research. This video shows that Vox is run by people who don’t do depth research. You can learn a lot about yourself with MBTI and it’s helped me find careers and choices. So it’s not “worthless.” I think people who call it worthless are arrogant themselves because they completely ignore it’s helped MILLIONS of people find jobs and paths in life. It’s just ESTJs and ISTJs and ENTJs believe they know it all so they don’t believe in MBTI. I’m glad you pointed this out. The MBTI has helped me and my friend get better communication and now we are building a website and writing stories and I picked programming because I got INTP and I love it. My friend is ENFJ and because I studied his cognitive functions we can now talk about book ideas much better. So it definitely improves communication and thank you for making this

  • @cocui92
    @cocui92 6 лет назад +21

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