Apparently Dreamless doesn't share the pity with world bosses... but still... you can't just farm it at lvl 40 and destroy it instantly so it is EASY farming!
Dreamless shares it with the Bellborne Geochelon, the big turtle. Basically, Calamity shares pity with Calamity, and Overlord with Overlord. It needs to be of the same category. The guy who discovered the pity said it in his video.
One correction Mr Tash. Dreamless is not overworld boss like Thunder Tempest or Monkey . Dreamless shares this pity with the big Turte weekly. And overworld bosses shares in each other
Mtashed listen bro idk if you watched that vid fully but the guy proved it that dreamless and the bell borne geocalche (big tortoise) have a different echo pool so basically if u want dreamless u have to rotate it with the big tortoise Ur welcome :)
@@lucidragon5260 Nah, the turtle is also dead in 30 sec and teleporting back and forth, going through 4 loading screens+fighting dreamless actually takes longer than just killing the turtle twice.
For anyone building Calcharo and Yinlin, I noticed if you swap between the Tempest and Thundering Mephis you can guarantee Tempest drops by alternating between both bosses, and its very fast and efficient
@@zippo718 the point is that they are very close to each other on the map, also why tf u so bruh, I'm out here tryna help people n u here being a clown
Bro now I can farm Echos without ever stepping into a domain. Thank you Mtashed for the best content!! I consume all my WuWa content threw you and you alone.
so here's a more optimized way of doing it pick 2 or 3 echoes you want to farm rank them by priority go to the lowest priority echo farm two or three mobs if you don't get an echo switch the tracking into the highest echo priority you want and kill the mob to get the guaranteed echo you want this way even if you get lucky and "waste your echo pity" your not wasting it on some random echo you don't want.
Sooo... The first 3 random echoes (with same rarity). Thr 4th choose anything you want to get. Idk why tash wasting the 3rd pity by going into what he want, hoping to get it and not getting anything 🤔
That sounds incredibly time inefficient given you're unlikely to run out of every element-relevant echo to farm unless you're playing A LOT. I can't imagine you save much if any time in the grand scheme of things swapping your tracking around like that basically every other pack of enemies- since most 1-cost echo mobs spawn in groups of 3-4 and you can generally get non-tracked types on the way too. And if you want to farm 3-cost echo mobs, just hop into other people's worlds. You'll also just naturally finish your database farming echoes like this anyways. I've had 208/208 for a few days now and still have plenty more to farm before even one character is done.
Tip for dreamless: You can fight her low level version if you're not going to spent plates on her. The lower level version dies quickly and has the same chance for an echo
@@agiyx8591 Somewhat - you can't even get level 15 bata bank to start dropping random 5* echoes before you get to sol3 phase 4. And you can't get level 90 to have 80% drop rate for them until sol3 phase 5
I agree with everyone that it’s an intentional mechanic but there are plenty of things intentional that get changed later. I’m sure they don’t want new accounts maxing the data bank in a day. I hope it stays this way though trust me
Hey thanks a lot for this tip! I just unlocked the first boss after seeing this video so I killed three little creatures and went to go kill the boss and got the echo on the first try!
@@_Asce_- Yeah I think they want it this way. It's quite smart. It allows us to farm effectively. We will want to kill mobs all around as they drop stuff. But if we ever want a certain echo this will be a nice way to do it.
it's pretty great that each class of monster (normal, elite, boss, etc) doesn't interrupt the pity of another class. Would have been great knowing this when I was trying to upgrade my data bank :)
The fact this exists shows Kuro understands that pity systems are important. No one wants to kill a boss 10 times and get no Echo. I will organically farm anyway because I don't care about abusing stuff like this, but it's nice to know they're thinking about it rather than just making it a % chance always like Genshin artifacts lol.
Bruh oh I’m definitely gonna do this all night then merge useless echos that way I raise my databank same time as fast as possible. This is huge! Tnx man
There is no thing as 'stoling' a game mechanic. It's discovered first from the cn community anyway. If that so doesn't that mean kokky is copying them as well?
People just discovered it, even I have noticed this before people start doing videos. It's not the "only one guy is a genius and the others just copied it and didn't give credit" situation.
In short, aside from maxing out your databank early as a newer player. This mechanic is a GODSEND if you're goal is to farm 5star echoes with "god roll" stats much faster than just roaming around the overworld. Not that game breaking, but sure is helpful so you can have lots of good 5star echo sets for future resonators or for swapping out.
fore those who dont know this was a bug caused by the enhanced drop rate cuz before it didint count it and made ur second one be guaranted on some bosses but now its fixed
So, essentially, don’t change your play-style at all (only farm elite units you mostly want); except for when you’ve already killed 3 in a row without getting an echo - then, on the 4th one, make sure to fight an echo of a creature you want.
He explained how it works in 4 mins and the rest is just showing and proving. In 0:10 he already showed the original video, before clicking this one, you mustve seen it’s 15mins long. You couldve just watched the referenced video instead.
This is actually a really really useful discovery. I've been farming Fleutist too but consecutively and it's crazy how many of those didn't drop which is a waste when I could just farm other elites to build up pity for a guaranteed Fleutist every time.
The pity works differently for weekly bosses and overworked bosses. And you can farm 3 different elite mobs without and echo and go kill your targeted one with it always dropping.
For farming the 3-cost elites, if you REALLY want to minmax on daily basis, because there is a finite amount of enemies that spawn per day. Pick three elites in order of your priority. call them priority 1, 2 and 3. start with killing two of your #2 choice. if no drop, move to your #1 choice and kill til a drop. if any #2 drop in your first two kills, repeat the step except with your #3 choice, i.e. if no drop in 2 kills, move to your #1. if you get a #3 drop, go back to building pity on #2. that way you can save your finite amount of #1 priority elites to near-guaranteed drops.
My data bank is already maxed but this is very useful for farming. Also the 15 enhanced chance rate up refills on Wednesdays instead of mondays apparently
FYI and this is confirmed by myself that this guranteed drop is seperated by each class in which for example you kill an overlord boss and didnt drop so the next OVERLORD will be guranteed. This applies to calamity too and for elite and common it seems that they require more than 2 (around 4-5 of not getting) echoes to gurantee it
I KNEW THERE WAS A PITY-LIKE SYSTEM!!! I'd been farming one boss and would get it almost every other time and thought my luck's impeccable or it's just 50/50 like everything in gacha games, cool to know tho
I knew about the strangely high rate (pity) of overlord bosses, and actually already used it since monday (when the first people reported too high rates on echoes). However actually using it on Elites sounds like a lot of pain, counting, teleporting back and forth, and remembering locations of how much elite mobs of a certain kind are at a specific spot of the map. It makes your overall rate of farming just slower and unless you completely farm your own world empty it's a net-negative time investment in comparison. And even you empty your world it's better to just join a friend and farm with them.
I soon as I got to rank 15 meaning it was possible to get 5 stars I got maxed out in about an hours. I just went around killing the other enemies until I got one 5 star of that echo maxing out my exp for that category.
For anyone who wants to ask about Bosses, yes it also works. Their pity system is If you lose the first one, the next one is immediately guaranteed to drop an echo. So you only need to kill a boss twice for their echo to drop.
If I remember correctly, Dreamless (Calamity Class) cannot be used as another pity for an Overlord class enemy (i.e. Crownless), since Dreamless and Crownless are two different classes. So if you want to farm dreamless, you need to fight another calamity class, and so on
It doesn't matter if you're farming Dreamless echoes. It doesn't have cooldown. You can just fight again right after you defeat it. Also, you can farm echoes with it infinitely, since it is a world boss.
So unless people are really lucky and always get echoes, the theory can be used for the majority who are really absorbed into echo farming, as just a way to tell or have a gut feeling of when the next echo will drop, that's how I take it
wow this really will be game changing... i have reach data bank 20 but i am only lvl 35 so i am technically data bank 18 i think. and now i will be able to farm any echo and legit get gold drops and maybe start to get the right main stats for my echos. if anyone wants to know how to get data bank fast i think mtashed covered it recently, all you need to do is go open the data bank page and scroll through the enemies you have caught and make sure to farm the blue and purple enemies on that list so that way when you get a higher ranking echo it applys to that catalog and you gain experience... literally just farm the blue ones because if u already have a high data bank then you will be guaranteed to get a purple drop and gain experience
another thing i've noticed, that i haven't heard anyone else mention, is that if an enemy looks like it's going super saiyan with a glow around them, they're guaranteed to drop an echo. it's not the biggest deal, but it is something worth noting
Hey, I found your demonstration really well explained but I actually found out about this pity system for Ecos in a video from another channel on YT named TenTen, Idk if he discovered it on its own or if he also saw the video you mentioned but it's the same thing you explained here. Great content dude 🙌
Quick update about what I said, apparently this guy found out about the pity system on Ecos in a Chinese forum (because he's Chinese and hence, understand it, so it makes sense)
For dreamless, just spam the lower level one for the pity and you'll get the echo. It's much easier than rotating, but it WILL rotate with the turtle so you can kill the weak dreamless and then fight the turtle if you need that one
This effectively quadruples the amount of [whatever elite you're farming] that spawn in your world each day. Fight 3 random other elites, then go fight 1 you care about. Now instead of 4 of the elite you care about being "off the map" only 1 of them is gone. So you get the specific echo you need 4 times as fast. Did it for a while yesterday and it definitely works
Damn, wish I knew this a few days ago. Used the last few days killing everything that moves to max out my DB; at least this is still useful when trying to get those boss echoes.
That's basically the 20% basic drop rate. 80% is high enough to say that pity system works. But the 100% should be the 5th kill. Info can be seen in Data bank
Every Overlord and calamity Class Echos are 50/50. If you kill one and don't get the echo go to another Overlord or Calamity class Echo and defeat them you'll be guaranteed an echo.
I tested and can confirm dreamless does not share pity with world bosses. I alternated farming dreamless and the ape and they each would have their own independent guarantee to drop after 2 attacks, but I could have dremless not drop an echo and then have ape also not drop an echo right after. The next hit on both would result in an echo drop. I had assumed it was independent for all bosses but if all world bosses share this pity and domain bosses do not, this is a great way to target farm
if you don't get the drops you want you have the wuwa strongbox to try your luck there, but to be efficient we need that 80% gold chance from echo data bank lvl 19
Yeah I noticed the boss one when farming Tempests. So I'd jump to another boss and kill it within the respawn window so I could get the drop I wanted. Didn't know there was one on the 3 cost. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
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Apparently Dreamless doesn't share the pity with world bosses... but still... you can't just farm it at lvl 40 and destroy it instantly so it is EASY farming!
Fed
It does share with the other Calamity boss class, the turtle
Dreamless shares it with the Bellborne Geochelon, the big turtle. Basically, Calamity shares pity with Calamity, and Overlord with Overlord. It needs to be of the same category. The guy who discovered the pity said it in his video.
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GAMERS!! We need to talk about this now!
😂😂😂😂
this changes everything !!
Yes we do
How many everythings have changed since time immemorial?
Emanator! 👹
"I didn't get the echo😢"
"Well now I'm just 3 echos away😊"
One correction Mr Tash.
Dreamless is not overworld boss like Thunder Tempest or Monkey .
Dreamless shares this pity with the big Turte weekly. And overworld bosses shares in each other
i accidentally read it as Mr Trash
also if youre farming dreamless i wouldnt recommend switching to another boss to build pity. It only takes like 10 seconds to kill it anyways
@@raghavdreacts me too LOL
@@raghavdreacts same lmfao
I wonder why they didnt make scar goat version an echo would have been cool
Mtashed listen bro idk if you watched that vid fully but the guy proved it that dreamless and the bell borne geocalche (big tortoise) have a different echo pool so basically if u want dreamless u have to rotate it with the big tortoise Ur welcome :)
Just farm low lvl dreamless if you are going for him. You can nearly one shot the lvl 40 one. Tip for those that dont know
its faster to just spam dreamless in lowest difficulty unless u want turtle
Or... you know... just kill dreamless over and over again because it takes literally 10 seconds
But if you're fighting the turtle it would be worth going to dreamless to build pity
@@lucidragon5260 Nah, the turtle is also dead in 30 sec and teleporting back and forth, going through 4 loading screens+fighting dreamless actually takes longer than just killing the turtle twice.
For anyone building Calcharo and Yinlin, I noticed if you swap between the Tempest and Thundering Mephis you can guarantee Tempest drops by alternating between both bosses, and its very fast and efficient
gonna try it today) thx
yeah because thet share the same pity
Did you even watch the video? Thats how all the same class of bosses work. You could alternate between any 2.
yeah its fast, and if the pity doesnt do its think you still get either of the two memphis
@@zippo718 the point is that they are very close to each other on the map, also why tf u so bruh, I'm out here tryna help people n u here being a clown
He said the words
the n word?
@@DoughyDewey BETTER
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
He is now one of the Knights’ Radiant
That made me laugh so fn hard
This. Changes. Everything!!
Nah this is so sweaty
Bro thinks he's bardock
@@volant8734 I was gonna say it too!
@@xanatitan8103 Db fans rise!
CRACKED video. awesome you shouted out the guy who discovered it too. Thanks Mtashed!
Bro now I can farm Echos without ever stepping into a domain. Thank you Mtashed for the best content!! I consume all my WuWa content threw you and you alone.
the glazing is crazy
Lmao @@MassiveW1ll
U might still need to farm the tacet fields for the tuners
@@MassiveW1llglazing is when you over compliment right? His comment only contains appreciation, I see no glazing.
How do you mistake "threw" for "through"
so here's a more optimized way of doing it pick 2 or 3 echoes you want to farm rank them by priority go to the lowest priority echo farm two or three mobs if you don't get an echo switch the tracking into the highest echo priority you want and kill the mob to get the guaranteed echo you want this way even if you get lucky and "waste your echo pity" your not wasting it on some random echo you don't want.
yess i was thinking of doing it this way too!
Sooo...
The first 3 random echoes (with same rarity).
Thr 4th choose anything you want to get.
Idk why tash wasting the 3rd pity by going into what he want, hoping to get it and not getting anything 🤔
Why couldn’t you farm pity with the same echo? What makes your way for effective?
@@pedrocabreja3184 the same u want? because the enemies don't respawn until the next day bro
That sounds incredibly time inefficient given you're unlikely to run out of every element-relevant echo to farm unless you're playing A LOT. I can't imagine you save much if any time in the grand scheme of things swapping your tracking around like that basically every other pack of enemies- since most 1-cost echo mobs spawn in groups of 3-4 and you can generally get non-tracked types on the way too. And if you want to farm 3-cost echo mobs, just hop into other people's worlds. You'll also just naturally finish your database farming echoes like this anyways. I've had 208/208 for a few days now and still have plenty more to farm before even one character is done.
Thank you for demonstrating. I was only half getting it until I saw it. 🙏🏾
Tip for dreamless: You can fight her low level version if you're not going to spent plates on her. The lower level version dies quickly and has the same chance for an echo
If I do this, will I only get low rarity Dreamless or there is a chance I get Gold rarity Echos?
@@tsalapbeew you get the rarity based on data bank level, boss level doesn't matter
@@tsalapbeew rarity is only decided by your data bank lvl
@@Aeteris Thought its decided by both database level AND world level.
@@agiyx8591 Somewhat - you can't even get level 15 bata bank to start dropping random 5* echoes before you get to sol3 phase 4. And you can't get level 90 to have 80% drop rate for them until sol3 phase 5
this is actually so funny because i discovered this tactic two days ago while randomly farming for inferno and the ape 😭 every second drop was an echo
Oh yeah, this means I can get those motorbikes for everyone in 6 battles at least
This is the kind of game changer that we look back on a year later and reminisce on how easy echo farming was before they PATCH IT
It's quite an easy formula, hope they won't change it, keeps a good speed on echoes for normies too, who aren't watching any tactics.
Nosense, is too specific to be a error, i predict they will at least make the pity be individual to esch echo
It's an intentional mechanic for sure. Basically a way to ensure there's no chance of you farming for 30 minutes with no drops
I agree with everyone that it’s an intentional mechanic but there are plenty of things intentional that get changed later. I’m sure they don’t want new accounts maxing the data bank in a day. I hope it stays this way though trust me
nah,dev just smiling at us players, coz finally u know how it works
you can also just afk 1 min till the boss respawns and kill him again, you dont have to kill another boss first
Thank you so much for the explanation, was trying to find one that made sense and yours absolutely did!
Wow. I completed by database so so quick using this lol. Nice!
thanks for demonstrating so in depth, I was lost at the beginning lol
I been waiting to hear him say those words….this TRULY changes everything
i've noticed that while farming for verina! i didn't know if it was something i was overthinking but now it makes sense
I am so happy to see tashman enjoying making content again ❤
We love you and appreciate you brother thank you.
I saw a video about this yesterday and have to say that it def saves A LOT of time on echo farming. Secret pity system has been discovered!!!
Hey thanks a lot for this tip! I just unlocked the first boss after seeing this video so I killed three little creatures and went to go kill the boss and got the echo on the first try!
He said the thing
Leonardo Dicaprio's whistling and pointing meme
Yeah gonna get patched real quick he’s basically a fed now
Its actually a really good thing that Echo farming isn't as RNG as I thought it was. This part of the game could easily be the grindiest aspect of it
Dev: They found out. Time to patch it.
Nope coz thats how they code it and thats how it work. Sometimes u just faq around and find out😂 (didnt change everything tbh)
@@_Asce_- Yeah I think they want it this way. It's quite smart. It allows us to farm effectively. We will want to kill mobs all around as they drop stuff. But if we ever want a certain echo this will be a nice way to do it.
They're not Hoyoverse.
@@dongarippo7279 yeah, even if they drop, they need to be 5 star, with right set, and right main stat, so yeah
Ok time to give them 5 star selector hshaha
Game changing discovery, i reached data bank 15 coz of this and now will farm for 5star echo!! Thanks a lot ❤❤❤
Respect for him shouting out the smaller content creator kokkygachas
it's pretty great that each class of monster (normal, elite, boss, etc) doesn't interrupt the pity of another class. Would have been great knowing this when I was trying to upgrade my data bank :)
seeing Mtashed this giddy and excited about things in a game he enjoys always makes me happy man! I love the Wuthering Waves content
The fact this exists shows Kuro understands that pity systems are important. No one wants to kill a boss 10 times and get no Echo. I will organically farm anyway because I don't care about abusing stuff like this, but it's nice to know they're thinking about it rather than just making it a % chance always like Genshin artifacts lol.
They understand it’s important by hiding it?😭
Bruh oh I’m definitely gonna do this all night then merge useless echos that way I raise my databank same time as fast as possible. This is huge! Tnx man
Congrats on crediting the smaller utber that brought it to light. Unlike certain other utuber who just stole it.
This is why we love tash man
There is no thing as 'stoling' a game mechanic. It's discovered first from the cn community anyway. If that so doesn't that mean kokky is copying them as well?
People just discovered it, even I have noticed this before people start doing videos. It's not the "only one guy is a genius and the others just copied it and didn't give credit" situation.
Who is the other one
This been discovered 4-5 days ago maybe even before that
Ig some people are dumb lol even i discovered it on day 2 when i started grinding for boss drops.
If you click an active tracker on the map, it will move right over it, so you don't have manually move it with your mouse
In short, aside from maxing out your databank early as a newer player. This mechanic is a GODSEND if you're goal is to farm 5star echoes with "god roll" stats much faster than just roaming around the overworld.
Not that game breaking, but sure is helpful so you can have lots of good 5star echo sets for future resonators or for swapping out.
How cause once u get the echoe there's no way to raise it again or how this work?
Talking about the databank
This is crazy i wasted 2 hrs this morning farming violet bird and kept getting green bird, thanks mtashed
YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS! DO THIS NOW! 7 HUGE MISTAKES! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Yooo so glad this came out into my notifications. Late but still gonna help me get the echos I need
Ohh man , now I can't turn my brain off when looking for echoes .
This changes everything, thx man
fore those who dont know this was a bug caused by the enhanced drop rate cuz before it didint count it and made ur second one be guaranted on some bosses but now its fixed
thanks for this, i maxed out my data bank from level 13 to level 20
i feel like i was doing this already because i was just target farming the ones i wanted to finish a set
i like how generous wuthering waves is comapare to genshin .
IT DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE. Tested it but even with 3 loses the 4th is not guaranteed for me.
i saw kokky's video about this earlier today and it really works
THANK YOU BRO THIS SAVED ME SOO MUCH TIME
Note that the calamity class and the overworld bosses have a separate pity!
How would this strategy work for calamity bosses?
@@jeremyngo7606 just every other is a echo. Dreamless and bell turtle are calamity, every other boss is an overload.
@@jeremyngo7606 It works the same (guaranteed in 2) but it have a seperate pity betweeen overlord and calamity type
@@lopspro thx thx
So, essentially, don’t change your play-style at all (only farm elite units you mostly want); except for when you’ve already killed 3 in a row without getting an echo - then, on the 4th one, make sure to fight an echo of a creature you want.
NOT WORKING NOW
Well this is going to save me a lot of time and sanity. Thanks
youtuber: *does this exploit*
youtuber: "game needs more content"
me: 😑
Just tried this and yup it works beautifully.
i dont think its working anymore :)
Says who
So thats why I always notice that i have to do 2 go's before getting a guaranteed echo in dreamless domain
only Mtashed can turn a 5 minute video into a 15 minute video, chop chop youtube boy get to the chase ffs
more than half of the video is just proving it works. But anyways.
L attention span on your part
Then stop watching him. Why did u stick around if you’re that impatient
Bro would rather have the information with zero evidence
He explained how it works in 4 mins and the rest is just showing and proving. In 0:10 he already showed the original video, before clicking this one, you mustve seen it’s 15mins long. You couldve just watched the referenced video instead.
This is actually a really really useful discovery. I've been farming Fleutist too but consecutively and it's crazy how many of those didn't drop which is a waste when I could just farm other elites to build up pity for a guaranteed Fleutist every time.
Me who thought everyone knew this already lol
Sure buddy
When i lie for no reason 😂
Ah so you're one of those
Yeah i knew this 1 second after the release 🗿
How would people know this off rip? Silly 🤪
A note - doesn't work on normal enemies, you just pray for rng to be on your side, it only works for elites, overlord and calamity class echoes
The pity works differently for weekly bosses and overworked bosses. And you can farm 3 different elite mobs without and echo and go kill your targeted one with it always dropping.
wow real helpful to see this after i already maxed out my data bank 😢
For farming the 3-cost elites, if you REALLY want to minmax on daily basis, because there is a finite amount of enemies that spawn per day.
Pick three elites in order of your priority. call them priority 1, 2 and 3. start with killing two of your #2 choice. if no drop, move to your #1 choice and kill til a drop. if any #2 drop in your first two kills, repeat the step except with your #3 choice, i.e. if no drop in 2 kills, move to your #1. if you get a #3 drop, go back to building pity on #2. that way you can save your finite amount of #1 priority elites to near-guaranteed drops.
My data bank is already maxed but this is very useful for farming. Also the 15 enhanced chance rate up refills on Wednesdays instead of mondays apparently
improving grinding time from 30min daily into 2hr daily nice
I love fighting Boss Echoes and chances having 5-star of this is so tasty. Farming them now is way average to easy. Love it!
FYI and this is confirmed by myself that this guranteed drop is seperated by each class in which for example you kill an overlord boss and didnt drop so the next OVERLORD will be guranteed. This applies to calamity too and for elite and common it seems that they require more than 2 (around 4-5 of not getting) echoes to gurantee it
I KNEW THERE WAS A PITY-LIKE SYSTEM!!! I'd been farming one boss and would get it almost every other time and thought my luck's impeccable or it's just 50/50 like everything in gacha games, cool to know tho
I knew about the strangely high rate (pity) of overlord bosses, and actually already used it since monday (when the first people reported too high rates on echoes).
However actually using it on Elites sounds like a lot of pain, counting, teleporting back and forth, and remembering locations of how much elite mobs of a certain kind are at a specific spot of the map. It makes your overall rate of farming just slower and unless you completely farm your own world empty it's a net-negative time investment in comparison.
And even you empty your world it's better to just join a friend and farm with them.
Someone who knows how to think critically. You're absolutely right.
I soon as I got to rank 15 meaning it was possible to get 5 stars I got maxed out in about an hours. I just went around killing the other enemies until I got one 5 star of that echo maxing out my exp for that category.
After you farmed a lot, you can fuse lower class echos and you may get legend or higher grade echos you don't have.
For anyone who wants to ask about Bosses, yes it also works. Their pity system is
If you lose the first one, the next one is immediately guaranteed to drop an echo.
So you only need to kill a boss twice for their echo to drop.
If I remember correctly, Dreamless (Calamity Class) cannot be used as another pity for an Overlord class enemy (i.e. Crownless), since Dreamless and Crownless are two different classes. So if you want to farm dreamless, you need to fight another calamity class, and so on
there is actually a very cool fact, sometimes, when mobs of different races fight and you fully interrupt the interaction, you can get all of them
It doesn't matter if you're farming Dreamless echoes. It doesn't have cooldown. You can just fight again right after you defeat it. Also, you can farm echoes with it infinitely, since it is a world boss.
So unless people are really lucky and always get echoes, the theory can be used for the majority who are really absorbed into echo farming, as just a way to tell or have a gut feeling of when the next echo will drop, that's how I take it
Youre very funny Mtashed, love your videos!
wow this really will be game changing... i have reach data bank 20 but i am only lvl 35 so i am technically data bank 18 i think. and now i will be able to farm any echo and legit get gold drops and maybe start to get the right main stats for my echos. if anyone wants to know how to get data bank fast i think mtashed covered it recently, all you need to do is go open the data bank page and scroll through the enemies you have caught and make sure to farm the blue and purple enemies on that list so that way when you get a higher ranking echo it applys to that catalog and you gain experience... literally just farm the blue ones because if u already have a high data bank then you will be guaranteed to get a purple drop and gain experience
another thing i've noticed, that i haven't heard anyone else mention, is that if an enemy looks like it's going super saiyan with a glow around them, they're guaranteed to drop an echo. it's not the biggest deal, but it is something worth noting
Hey, I found your demonstration really well explained but I actually found out about this pity system for Ecos in a video from another channel on YT named TenTen, Idk if he discovered it on its own or if he also saw the video you mentioned but it's the same thing you explained here. Great content dude 🙌
Quick update about what I said, apparently this guy found out about the pity system on Ecos in a Chinese forum (because he's Chinese and hence, understand it, so it makes sense)
For dreamless, just spam the lower level one for the pity and you'll get the echo. It's much easier than rotating, but it WILL rotate with the turtle so you can kill the weak dreamless and then fight the turtle if you need that one
This was a good video MTashed!
This will also be very useful for targeting specific elite mobs for set bonuses
If there’s one thing I know, it’s that this. Changes. EVERYTHING.
Wrong title - This changes everything
I needed to know this, thanks mtashed
This effectively quadruples the amount of [whatever elite you're farming] that spawn in your world each day. Fight 3 random other elites, then go fight 1 you care about. Now instead of 4 of the elite you care about being "off the map" only 1 of them is gone. So you get the specific echo you need 4 times as fast. Did it for a while yesterday and it definitely works
There's also a sign of guarantee to drop if you see some echos have smokes in their head and it guarantees a drop.
Damn, wish I knew this a few days ago. Used the last few days killing everything that moves to max out my DB; at least this is still useful when trying to get those boss echoes.
That's basically the 20% basic drop rate. 80% is high enough to say that pity system works. But the 100% should be the 5th kill. Info can be seen in Data bank
So basically if u kill and get a echo then fight a diff enemy if not droped echos 3 times back to back 4th is guaranteed echo drop
It's 50-50 btw, this was found in Closed beta but wasn't talked about for specific reasons.
Every Overlord and calamity Class Echos are 50/50. If you kill one and don't get the echo go to another Overlord or Calamity class Echo and defeat them you'll be guaranteed an echo.
I tested and can confirm dreamless does not share pity with world bosses. I alternated farming dreamless and the ape and they each would have their own independent guarantee to drop after 2 attacks, but I could have dremless not drop an echo and then have ape also not drop an echo right after. The next hit on both would result in an echo drop. I had assumed it was independent for all bosses but if all world bosses share this pity and domain bosses do not, this is a great way to target farm
if you don't get the drops you want you have the wuwa strongbox to try your luck there, but to be efficient we need that 80% gold chance from echo data bank lvl 19
idk if this is true or not...
cuz sometimes i fight 2 elite bears at once and they both drop
Yeah I noticed the boss one when farming Tempests. So I'd jump to another boss and kill it within the respawn window so I could get the drop I wanted. Didn't know there was one on the 3 cost. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
Bro fr started tweaking at the end🤣💀
This happened to last night, Beringal didn't stoped droping echoes but my 2nd boss never droped anything. 😅
Do it only if you're data bank 18. The 10% difference below makes it really inconsistent