OSSC - Upgrade Old Videogame Consoles to HDTV/Monitors - Adam Koralik
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2017
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're discussing the OSSC (Open Source Scan Converter). This device, similar to the Framemeister, allows you to adapt older game consoles for use on modern monitors. Today, let's review it and see how it holds up!
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There are three scart types that should be addressed in the description so that some players aren't disappointed.
1. A scart adaptor - this is not scart - It is simply AV cables in an RCA to scart connection adaptor.
2. A regular scart lead. This is the same as above but with an actual (7 pin) scart connection. Quality wise, it's still just an AV cable.
3. RGB Scart - this is the true high quality scart. Usually 21 pin.
This will work best with the following consoles:
Atari Jaguar
Atari Jaguar CD
Nintendo Super Nintendo (Super Famicom) (original model only) (some users report issues with this console)
Philips CD-I or CDI (450 model not supported)
Sega Master System (model one)
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) (models one and two) (I personally couldn't get this to work)
Sega CD (Mega CD) (I personally couldn't get this to work)
Sega 32X (I personally couldn't get this to work)
Sega Saturn
Sony Playstation (1)
SNK Neo Geo AES
SNK Neo Geo CD
This will not work with anything older such as the Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Atari 7800, Nintendo Entertainment System, Colecovision, Famicom etcetera.
Some notable exceptions that do not work because of the limits of the console itself:
Nintendo 64 (unless RGB modded)
Super Nintendo Jr (unless RGB modded)
3DO (any model, Panasonic, Goldstar etcetera, though S-Video is supported)
NEC Turbografx 16 (unless modded or uses external RGB adapter)
PC Engine (unless modded or uses external RGB adapter)
Sega Pico
This device includes a VGA port for use with these consoles:
Apple Pippin (included on board VGA)
Sega Dreamcast (supports VGA, but SCART is supported as well for non compatible titles)
Component Input is also available, and is intended for the following consoles:
Nintendo GameCube
Nintendo Wii (not including the Wii Mini)
Microsoft XBox
Sony Playstation 2
The following consoles will not require this device in any way as they already have HDMI on board.
Nintendo Switch
Nintendo Wii U
Microsoft XBox 360
Microsoft XBox One (and Xbox One S and X)
Sony Playstation 3
Sony Playstation 4 (and PS4 Pro) 
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I got an OSSC a few weeks ago. Mine is the 1.6 revision, which includes HDMI out (with integrated audio), and audio-in options for component video. I honestly don't see the need to ever upgrade to a Framemeister now that I have this thing.
I would consider calling that a 'downgrade' 4:2:2 color space and a host of other issues (1.5 frame lag vs 3 scanlines)
@@voltz15 haha yeah would this thing be good on a BVM/PVM or HD CRT
Can't wait till I have mine, after playing the horrible Ratchet and Clank PS3 remaster I strafe to back to the PS2 versions.
@@Casketkrusher_ You don't need the OSSC when you have connected the Console to PVM/BVM or VGA Monitor and it it supports progressive or even more but maybe it can deinterlace the interlace only games
@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 I'm not really into the technical things, I'm a simple guy and I just want to play my old PS2 games in a somewhat decent quality, I was thinking about the Framemeister and I heard a lot of positive things about it but then I saw the price tag and I was like nope, so I came across this thing and it technically does the same right? I also don't play on a TV I play everything on my monitor which is HDMI, and if I compare everything to my TV my monitor does a better job at cleaning up those games, I always used those cheap PS2 to HDMI boxes but still it looked not that bad but I know it could be better, I also don't know of any European games have progressive scan I tried some games which are listed to gave progressive scan but it doesn't seem to work here.
got myself an OSSC a few months ago and it's great.
Hey Adam, I think the OSSC might be worth revisiting since you last made this video. The 1.6 board revision support HDMI as the default with audio. For RGB you simply plug the cable in and use the audio toggle in its default position. For component you need to purchase a 2$ RCA two channel audio to 3.5mm adapter, and plug it in one of the two audio input ports on the board and toggle the switch to AV2 input. For VGA you need to provide a 3.5mm audio input to the second 3.5mm port.
The OSSC also added a special VGA mode to address the dreamcasts non standard VGA output. I don't own the console, but the more recent reviews I have seen online don't complain about the same visual noise you talked about in your review.
There are also other settings to address the sync modes. The OSSC wiki has instructions on how to fix the issue you had with the sega genesis. I haven't tried it, but I suspect it would fix your issue.
Greeting Adam, I would suggest to do a different Review of the Updated Version OSSC 1.6
Still sucks
Just a follow up on this. I just ordered one of these. The new version ditches the DVI port for HDMI and adds an analog audio input and injects the audio into the HDMI stream.
+Daniel Pacyau Fantastic.
You know Adam, the best thing about the OSSC is that the box spits out the exact refresh rate of a console that is connected to it. So let's say we're playing SNES, a console that outputs an odd-ball refresh rate for the video signal, CRTs have no issue with it, but with certain HDTVs, the screen will glitch every 2 seconds because HDTVs aren't equipped to handle raw refresh rates of old consoles, like the SNES and original NES. But if you have an HD or 4K TV that can handle those raw video signals flawlessly with the OSSC, than you're gonna have a good time. You know why, because the OSSC spits out the same refreash rate of any console you hook it up to, there's no lag comming out of it, the only lag you get is from you're HDTV or 4kTV. The XRGB mini has 1 frame of lag on HDTVS and that Cheap SCART to HDMI box has 3-4 frames of lag on HDTVs
Great video Adam!
Thanks James.
The video description alone was worth my sub.
I have this and it works great with all of my RGB consoles, component consoles, and Dreamcast. I have an LG TV which accepts everything that the OSSC has thrown at it.
I was disappointed with how the Framemeister handled 480i and 480p over component after fiddling with the different settings and never really getting a very good result. I'm very happy to say that the component video of this is AMAZING.
I also wish that audio ports were included, but my workaround is using a separate manual A/V switch which is plugged into my receiver. I have a SCART switch and a component switch feeding into the OSSC with the audio leads from each connected to the A/V switch. It's not pretty, but it works and required only one extra piece of equipment.
I have my HD retrovision component cables for my SNES on my 36 inch CRT SOny and holy jesus it looks so awesome!Very recomended!
Awesome review Adam!
Thanks!
5:00 Another console that used VGA as it's best video output: 1st revision of the Xbox 360, that didn't have built in HDMI (they all have native VGA output, but since people use HDMI, it was hardly used).
@8:43 There is a DVI to HDMI adapter available. It is a simple passthrough without degrading anything.
@10:34 Although it might be a little bit more inconvenient, it does not cost you additional 200 bucks.
Apparently there's a new version of this Device 1.6 has HDMI on board and has audio out without having to use RCA adapters
wow i haven't watched one of your videos in AGES. great content m8.
Welcome back.
Great informative video!
Thanks Scott.
I'm recommending the OSSC for Dreamcast use.
960p output is actually looking sharper then 480p on a computer crt monitor.
If it used DisplayPort, licensing could be less than HDMI: DP is royalty-free. DisplayPort can inexpensively be adapted to VGA, DVI, HDMI and more DisplayPort.
Since that jack is outputting analog audio, you could wire whatever pins it's plugged into with more appropriate RCA jacks if you want. So you don't go through that mess of cables. It's fairly easy to do since both have left, right and ground pins just with a different connector
I know in an older video you mentioned you had an issue with scart switches and SNES or super Famicom. I bought a five port bandridge automatic scart switch and it works fine with the super Famicom. thought I'd just throw that out there in case it's helpful to anyone.
Now that these have the option to be fitted with the audio upgrade to support sound through the DVI output, these are much more appealing to me. I already have a Framemeister now but I might consider getting one of these for my second TV eventually.
I am using a "Neet" Converter at the moment for component to hdmi. I might try one of these. Thanks for the heads up.
No problem.
I really like the idea of this. If I was going for one of these I would go for the bare-bones option to save money... and learn to solder properly
If I remember correctly my SNES came with a RF-cable and only a decade later I bought an s-video cable to hook the console up to a projector - projectors never featured SCART ports. Most modern TVs now have a legacy port to which you can hook up one RGB SCART device via an extra dongle.
I thought it might've been the Dreamcast library, but this issue of what wire you plug a console into a TV with is your favourite topic in the genre of Video Games. I'm not complaining I'm just noticing.
Thanx for the review. I am obsessed with quality while i play old school games. Specially Neo geo the last time i played a flawless Neo geo experrience was with a soft modded xbox on a crt tv with 5.1 surround sound. Samurai showdown metal slug 3 magician lord heaven.
Thanks for watching!
This is a very interesting device. The ports used (or not used rather) is an Achilles Heel with it, hopefully future iterations will offer more flexibility. I would love HDMI but as you said it's a licensing issue... however RCA audio jacks have been around forever, do those really still require licensing? If not for such limitations and the way it handles upscaling for systems that have unusual resolutions like the Genesis you mentioned, this could easily supplant the Framemeister. I look forward to future developments but I will stick with my cheap scart to HDMI box for now as it does the job well already, with a couple of notable disadvantages.
Can't wait to hear the upcoming thing for the Dreamcast!
Demon Eyes Network maybe this www.beharbros.com/akura
Don't tell me this! I just bought the hanzo to replace my retrobit
vladimir moreno looks useful if your tv does not have vga input. If your tv does have vga input then I would think hanzo would suffice (since neither device is an upscaler anyway).
Nice video Adam. Only thing I'd add is the Xbox 360 had a first party VGA cable with the red and white rca plugs to connect. Only reason I know this is because back in 2006 or so I didn't have a good HDTV at the time. I did have a nicer CRT IBM monitor that was I think 22". It could actually output the xbox at 1920-1080 with smooth but letterboxed results. Probably not the best way to connect but it definitely did the job at the time.
Hey Adam, you should do a video where you use scart to hdmi on a neo geo AES. The results can vary dramatically based on the serial number that you have, so it would interesting to compare the results that you get against the composite cables. Cheers
Love the Audio/Video segments I actually like messing around with adapters and extensions female to male craziness I find it intriguing I'm always bringing home shit like that from thrift stores my tv in the living room has vga so I hooked the pc up to it pretty cool
OSSC is cool it's the reason I haven't gotten the XRGB mini yet, still holding out hoping it will be my turn to buy one :)
another good video thankyou
Thanks for watching!
They're not made in Norway. They're developed by a Finnish guy named Markus Hiienkari, but I don't believe the DIY kit and/or the pre-assembled unit ship out of Finland exclusively. Videogameperfection do sell them, and they're based in the UK.
thanks for bringing this to our attention, have you seen the HI-DEF-NES, whats your thoughts on that? and what about just modding all the individual consoles to output higher outputs, like vga modding dreamcasts, this is what id would choose
Thanks for watching.
No? Don't think I have.
the way to look at it is, the OSSC provides pure RGB colour output, where as the Xrgb mini colour space is compressed, the Xrgb mini has much more fine tuning and scaling options, whereas OSSC is a line doubler or triple which leaves a lot less fine tuning. in my case i owned both and sold the XRGB Mini, due to two reasons the OSSC outputs much better RGB colour and in some instances the XRGB mini produces minor image noise on some colours/consoles.
With the latest firmware the OSSC now line quadruples and line quintuples
Great video Adam. I am curious, what kind of TV do you have?
Samsung...something. I used to have the model number memorizes, honestly don't remember any more.
Seriously!!! If you have a Dreamcast and an HD TV, you GOT TO have this!!!! Forget about all other vga to hdmi rubbish devices. THIS IS THE ONE! OSSC makes it looks crystal clear like how I used to connect it to my old CRT PC Monitor.
I got mine on ebay for £106. (They are selling around £110 but you can send an offer to try to ask a cheaper price). Yes, it is sent from the factory in China, but it works great!
All the OSSC (1.6 and above) hardware now lets you have audio input from your dremcast when you connect it via vga.
You just need to set your HD TV in 4:3 mode
Then in the OSSC, go the menu by the remote control, to sampler opt to ensure that "480p in sampler" is set to "DTV 480p". Then if the Output Opt, in the 480p/576p proc, set it to
Line2x which will Line double 960p/1152p output. (That give you the crystal clear image for me)
If supported by your display, it is also recommended to set H.active to 640 in the advanced timing menu. You may also need to adjust H.backporch and/or your display to center the image.
Then you can save this as a profile in the Setting opt.
Here is the reference I read from one of the youtube comments I found then found out more.
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The correct setting for Dreamcast (which should result in a wider AR) is DTV 480p. The problem is most VGA inputs expect 640x480 since that's what all computers used. See the OSSC wiki for more info and optimal settings (junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=Dreamcast)
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Have you tried feeding the DVI to HDMI cable into the HDMI in on your Framemeister or even the SCART/HDMI to HDMI box? Some people tend to feed the OSSC's output into a separate scaler, like the DVDO line of scalers, to handle the off-spec resolutions. There is also an audio upgrade that you can buy to integrate the audio and video into one signal and as stated before, you can feed the audio from VGA and component devices through the SCART input.
I could do that, but it kind of defeats the point of the OSSC if I'm using the Framemeister.
Might be worthwhile experiment though. The cheap box is more obtainable than the Framemeister, if it works with the OSSC it could be the solution to the OSSC's compatibility and if the Framemeister can handle it would be the solution to the Framemeister's poor handling of YPbPr.
For the sound buy dvi-d to hdmi with added 3.5mm jack.The audio jack is wired into the lead as well.
If you have to buy additional hardware, then it really kind of ruins it.
Adam, do you still have your old SCART to HDMI? I recently acquired an OSSC 1.6, which has HDMI output. I haven't gone into any hardcore testing with it yet, but I found the best way to use it, at least in my setup, was to plug it into the HDMI input on your old SCART to HDMI. My Sony Bravia 32inch HDTV worked with every console I threw at the OSSC, except the PS1. And of the ones that did work, the TV wouldn't accept anything but the linedoubled 480p or 576p modes. Plugging it into the SCART to HDMI input, I was able to get everything but the 5x mode working. And I found that by setting the OSSC's output to 3x mode, the image is scaled at 4:3 aspect ratio.
Nah, I stopped using it years ago.
@@AdamKoralik Just giving a little tip if you ever get your hands on an OSSC 1.6. The cheap scaler's HDMI input does a great job converting the OSSC's output into something your television can tolerate.
Great review. Apparently the OSSC actually doesn't support Composite or S-video through it's SCART port, it requires an RGB signal which is kinda odd.
I was really considering getting one of these at one point but the sound thing really put me off as I only have one television that has an audio jack associated with an HDMI port and it happens to be my worst TV. Luckily I was able to pre-order a Framemeister for a reasonable price.
Thanks.
Are you sure? In hindsight I regret not testing that more, but I didn't really have a way to be sure.
Adam Koralik I've read it a few different places including this article on the video game perfection website that sells them. under the "the OSSC delivers" paragraph:
www.videogameperfection.com/2016/07/08/source-converter-verdict/
You can get audio output through DVI on it. It's an optional extra.
The OSSC is a much more convenient and useful device now. They've replaced the DVI-out with HDMI-out and have audio inputs for the VGA and component video inputs. You get audio directly from the HDMI-out as well without the impractical audio workaround he describes here. Additionally, there is also line doubling support for 480p content (such as from most Dreamcast, Gamecube, Wii and Xbox games) which I don't believe they had initially. It looks incredible. Since the device is open source, the software is always being improved and you can buy perfect clones of the original device for just a little over $100 USD. It took time for the OSSC to become really good but it certainly has gotten there. I would recommend one with zero hesitation for anyone except someone who only plays PS2. To get really good results from a PS2, you really need something with a frame buffer due to the fact that almost all its games are output in an interlaced mode (480i).
Yeah, I'm glad they made improvements.
Couple of things: for ps2 you can use sync on green with this: sync on green is an rgb 480 p signal that is less noisy that ps2 supports. Also this is a line doubler but can line triple if your tv supports it it doesn't framelock inputs to the input resolution so it's bad with capture devices and can cause jutter with some consoles but has better 4 4 4 color conversion than the framemeister
I've heard that if you run the output of the OSSC through the framemeister it can stabilize the HDMI video. Would be useful for the component video up-scaling.
Since the ossc doesn’t have audio for component, why not get an hdmi audio inserter to get sound to the tv? It’s also great to get game capture too.
Honestly the creators should have just put a Display Port on it, as it can be easily converted to HDMI, DVI, and VGA
if you build the kit you can have what you like, hdmi, dvi or display.
if you build with the hdmi port you could even wire the scart audio to it, then you wont need audio cables.
Display port is also licensed
I bet it doesn't have composite as most of the time in Europe, the cables had an optional adapter that allowed it to connect through scart on the end come with them. Composite was mostly presented in that way over here.
Most of my systems prior also came with them, I may have been an anomaly. All systems are compatible with the adapter anyway, so I guess the creator of the device expected you to just use them anyway as most TVs post 2003 went no lower than scart for picture where I live.
Unfourtunate to hear about the audio situation. I'm mainly interested in using this for consoles with component but no easy in for audio is a big bummer.
Good news though is that the most recent firmware has pushed the hardware inside the OSSC in its current form to its limit, meaning we may see a new version sometime soon if its creator intends to add upscaling to 4k.
from what I've heard, best VGA support for anything is either the XRGB 2 or 3. I remember seeing a video of a guy's setup where he had the Dreamcast & Sega Naomi hooked up
How does the XRGB do with other arcade boards? I've got a CPS2 and it runs at 15khz
i don't know. i just remember he used the naomi b/c he could output with VGA
Have you reviewed the device for the Dreamcast yet??? If so link???
Hi there, in light of the update to this coming out soon (1.6) which fixes audio issues, outputs digital audio via hdmi out etc, would you be interested in offering your opinion on the 'better' option vs the framemeister now?
Question about your Nights into Dreams. Are you sure it was displaying in Widescreen only because you had the Wide option on? Nights is one of the few widescreen games on the Saturn and I noticed that the orbs were circular as they should be
First generation Xbox 360 the best output was also VGA... Granted it's survived this long, it could make use of the VGA to DVI.
hey adam, have you ever through doing a revisit of this unit with the currently new firmware update
He never answered me back when I asked him.
There's always other videos.
are you going to do a update video when the 1.6 comes out?
Hi, awesome video. I saw your video few years ago and I got a composite cable for my ps2, however the image quality is not as great. I have seen recently composite to HDMI cable converters, do this thing will be an improvement? Any recommendations?
thanks in advance!!
+jaimeterronfraile Component cables for the PS2 are recommended. But you'll never be wowed by the PS2.
My 3rd time watching this. Always looking for the best way to play dreamcast
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Oh my goodness gracious... I'm sorry Adam, but pretty much every computer (lol new Macs don't) has a line level analog audio input. And if you REALLY need an RCA input and a 3.5mm output, you can plug it in through the SCART port with an composite/audio to SCART adapter which I personally have a TON of laying around (tho I do live in Europe but still they're dirt cheap).
I have had home computers since 1978 and probably 50-60 of all kinds since then and not one of them has had a line input. I have had a Dell desktop and a HP laptop with microphone in, but both were for condenser microphones and isn't a line input. This is why I some time ago bought a Behringer UCA222, a device that has a proper line input over USB.
Oooo You Tease!!! ............ what are we gonna see for The Dreamcast?
the HDMI box that went on pre-order this week.
The Akura from the beharbros. Look it up.
yea my toro cable was doa, he shipped me a new one free once I emailed him about it.
Hmm this seems to work on the Sinclair ZX Spectrum, tempting.
There is P2 (3.5mm) to RCA cables, you don't need those adapters for the Scart situation.
If I live in Europe and have scart on my TV would it be worth buying a box like this or should I directly use scart
From what I understand, yes. But depends on what consoles you are connecting up. Make sure you are using RGB scart though and not composite wired into a scart connector.
Hey Adam hoping you can help I'm deciding between framemeister and ossc. I have only a modded n64 running through rgb with the rest being 6th Gen consoles all running component/vga. what would be your recommendation here? I've got no plans to get any older consoles in 5th/4th gen or below. would be running through older 42" led LG no fancy new 4k or anything. thanks!
I have an RGB modded N64 and it's amazing through the OSSC. There's a guy out there trying to use the "de-blur" that some of the more expensive RGB mods with the OSSC to take away the unnecessary blurring the N64 natively has.
Also you are talking about the beharbros Akura to review I don't see it being better than the toro because it doesn't upscale but can't wait to see your comparison video
Am glad i own the frame meister .
geez, had no idea anyone still used tv speakers for console audio output, even with my nes in the 80's i was using composite output through a vcr and into a small stereo.
Hey Adam. Sounds like you're hinting at reviewing the Akura from BBS which just went up for pre-order. I hope its good as I really want something for my Dreamcast.
OSSC is actually better than Akura since it's the only box that can correct the Dreamcast's weird output aspect ratio. I have no clue why Adam got poor results with his Dreamcast via the OSSC.
Have you used the Akura?
No but I've been chatting to the designer, it's going to be just a simple VGA to HDMI transcoder, so made for convenience rather than ultimate quality. Expect good results, most people don't notice the aspect ratio thing anyway.
You can add digitized audio to this for about $15 worth of components (a bit more if you don't have the soldering skills, I sure as hell don't). Gets rid of all of the audio issues you discussed.
It is available with HDMI if you order the DIY kit. Are you sure it doesn't accept S-Video and Composite through the SCART connector? JP21 is not "proprietary," it's just an alternate pinout. You definitely didn't need all those adapters for audio: cables that connect headphone jacks to RCA stereo are ridiculously common. I've even found them at Wal-mart, but I prefer the small Y-cable type that lets you use your own instead of being restricted to the length they are made. Most TVs allow you to connect analog audio for a digital source particularly because of DVI.
I'm sure it can, I meant they weren't on board.
Would simply plugging in a scart lead to this make your picture better without any software updates/additional cables?
Too open ended, depends on the console, your monitor, your settings, etcetera. But generally, yes.
DVI-D to HDMI cables work great. And for sound, you can use a HDMI switch with audio cinch out.
console via hdmi-cable to hdmi-switch with audio cinch out.
hdmi switch via hdmi-to-dvi-d cable to monitor.
I get that you can, but surely you see why adding extra things makes for an inconvenience.
You have a point. All in one is the idea.
hook your conoles up to the OSSC and let it do it's thing and then send the output from the OSSC into the framemeister, the quality is pretty amazing
the compatibility issues you spoke of are 100% down to your TV, some TV's simply won't like the weird out of spec resolutions that the OSSC can send out which will result in no picture or poor picture like you described for the dreamcast, when used in conjuction with the framemeister or other good scaler it corrects the ouput and fixes the problems
the only thing the OSSC really needs is on board audio passthrough
no because you get the inferior rgb colour space of the xrgb mini, which defeats the purpose of getting the pure rgb signal out of the OSSC, best option is just buy a decent sized lcd monitor most will do line x3 mode
well personally i wouldn't use the XRGB because i don't really think it's very good anyways, my setup i have the OSSC running into a DVDO edge scaler and all my older games look amazing
much better than using the OSSC as a standalone or the xrgb as a standalone
dazzgc I think they fixed the RGB in the latest firmware :)
There are simple dirt cheap 3.5 mm to rca cables
Yeah... the video had it like 10x more complicated than it needed to be. Kind of an unfair knock against the OSSC. All you need is something like Monoprice product # 9768.
I said that because that's what I have. I admit, I should have been clearer the said cables exist, but I wasn't going to go out an buy them just for this.
Can you review the new 1.6 version so I can see the difference in the audio changes?
Hey Adam, I stream weekly Super Smash Bros. Melee tournaments and I own gamecube component cables, so far I've been using Wii Component cables (NTSC Progressive scan) + Black Magic Intensity Shuttle hardware to capture the game feed (at 480p 59.94 FPS) and use composite OUT to the CRT. Do you think the OSSC would benefit me in any way to make the game feed look nicer than it already is (assuming I use the gamecube with component cables rather than a wii with component cables, and yes I know they look nearly identical between consoles)
Thanks!
I use an BM intensity shuttle USB3, and the OSSC sadly can't get a sync due to way the BM Shuttle is very finicky with its signals.
If I’m using an OSSC for a PS2 would you recommend a Skart cable with it or just sticking with componet cables? I need to use one of these for my PS2 to add border lines for my Sinden Lightgun to read the border lines during gameplay this goes for all PS2 Lightgun games unless there is another way I have no other way of of getting a device for my PS2 to add border lines or a border to play Time Crises 1,2,3 with my Sinden Lightgun
Personally I wouldn't recommend the OSSC for the PS2.
I'd use the RetroTink 2X-M. I did a video on it somewhat recently if that helps.
@@AdamKoralik yeah It’s a hassle to many cords and and I get even get passed the scan line grey screen :/ it’s a drag and hassle setting this up Can the Retrotink add a border on the screen? I have one but haven’t tried it yet
Adam,
Makes me wonder if the people who built this thing could switch to display port from DVI because Display Port is a royalty-free product compared to HDMI. Plus Display port has audio just like HDMI. Granted you need a Display port to HDMI adapter but it would be more user friendly without the needing for those extra cables for audio.
isnt it better to use some good speakers that has 3,5 mm in instead of tv spaeakers? I think tv speakers in general sucks much better to use real external speakers,
Daniel Stefanovic that's what I do. I have a phono to 3.5mm converter connected to my Bose system and it's amazing playing the Saturn with the OSSC on my monitor with the Bose for sound. Brings new life to Panzer Dragoon.
Again, depends on your setup.
Any thoughts (anyone) on best (current) nes to hdmi solution that allows game capture?
Watch my AVS video.
Depends on whether or not you're satisfied with composite video; whether or not you want to mod the system to output something better; or whether or not you're OK with using HDMI compatible clone systems like the Retro Freak or Analogue NT. I've used the same cheap SCART to HDMI that Adam has used for years, it works well with my PAL NES toploader that's been AC modified and is absolutely the best budget friendly option. Though if you want something that correctly recognizes 240p, either the RetroTINK 2X or the Framemeister are probably your best bet, but they are more costly. If you want to RGB Mod your NES, either the cheap SCART to HDMI, the OSSC or the Framemeister is a good option. There's also the HighDef NES mod that installs a HDMI output in your console. If using original hardware is not a priority, I've used a Cyber Gadget Retro Freak with NES and it's a pretty good option.
@@AdamKoralik thank you guys :) I will do some looking into things.
Oh and alomost forgot, looking at the video seems to suggest your Genesis problem is a cable issue rather than anything else, OSSC seems to be having issues detecting the signal from your console. Why that would be though, I don't know!
cool video talk adamtech
Does the OSSC (Open Source Scan Converter) accept an input resolution of 1080i?
It might, honestly I'm not sure. :/
Well guess i'm saving up for a Framemeister!
I have a Panasonic Gaoo it was one of the best built tube TV's and everything looks good on there but for capturing the gameplay footage the framemeister seems to be the best and you can get the correct aspect ratio cheaper devices can't do that and the results are not that good!
not necessarily and a lot of PC capture cards have there short comings!
Save your money.
12:59 To answer your question Adam, some people like me run Linux on their PC's. It's extremely complicated, but it gets the job done.
i'm looking for sumthing to conect my OG xbox and PS2 to component what ways can you conect audio?
the PS2 had a "Linux" kit where you could use the console as a computer. Made by Sony, and with a VGA cable. I have no idea if people tryed to use that with actual games, and I have no idea either if you knew about this "Linux for PS2" thing. It's kind of a novelty, but it had game developement programs that were made to make PS2 "Linux" games, (not regular PS2 games)...
What is the difference between connecting a console directly to your TV using component and connecting it via this thing?
Aside from scanlines and resolution benefits, it's basically intended for monitors and TVs that don't have component input.
I just ordered the OSSC and am dying for it to arrive. I have a question you might be able to answer: I currently have an original Xbox rigged up to my PC monitor through DVI-D. The only problem is that any game that outputs at 480i (including the Xbox dashboard menu) will not display on my monitor. 480p and 720p games look excellent, however... The problem is that many, many original Xbox games only support 480i. My question is, with the OSSC, will I be able to take an interlace signal in through component and output it at a progressive resolution? If so, I will have a perfect solution to the Xbox problem.
vga always comes with 3.5 mm so just take that to your dvi to hdmi adapter that has headphone and dvi connectors
for composite again passive adapters to do that
it would be difficult if the scart did not have that
also it does not need to process the audio
so really all you need is a headphone cable switcher and you would have no issues
the framemeister is not perfect either
all you need is a different dvi to hdmi cable the better ones have a 3.5 connector
Good explanation on it, I had heard of it originally in comments here and at the time the general consensus was "The OSSC is better because it's cheaper than the Framemeister."
Seems like the tech is there but the implementation still needs some work.
Yeah, that's basically where I'm at.
will you just say what the new Dreamcast thing you been hinting at in past couple videos
5:34 The OSSC gets its audio through the SCART input.
Yes, yes it does.
I mean it gets its sound for VGA and YPbPr through the SCART input.
hdr needs to get you on the retro roundtable!
Hey Adam, I have an interesting idea. You've gone and shown all these ways about playing games at higher quality. Is a CRT video in the realm of possibilities, HERE ME OUT! A good Trinitron getting fed a high quality signal will make games look amazing and if you use a PVM/BVM it's an image that will really rival the OSSC and even the Framemeister. There really big and bulky so it's probably something out there since it doesn't fit you're setup but it might be cool to pick up a small 14" or 20" CRT or maybe go to someone who does and use you're SCART to Component transcoder, that's what I've happily been using for on my Samsung 14" CRT and continue to use until I ever upgrade to a PVM or get an OSSC. Thank you!
All I want is to play NTSC and PAL games on a modern 1080p TV, with sound, low lag, and good quality picture. Is that too much to ask?
Yeah same, bought the new version so I hope it does a better job as those dirt cheap Chinese PS2 to HDMI boxes.
Original Xbox also has VGA, however you have to make the adapter since there is no place to buy one.
It appears that the OSSC on the TCL 43S405 is an awesome combo! I'm looking into this setup to replace my Framemeister XRGB mini and an older Samsung LCD. Regarding the Dreamcast, I'm currently using SCART out from a Behar Bros Toro VGA Box into the Framemeister to get 480P, then upscaling from there. I'm not sure if this will work on the OSSC/43S405 setup, but I'm hoping it could! Any thoughts?
composite and y/c (s-video) over scart would have been nice. would be a total buy for me if it had that built in. assuming the pins are even connected to something. it is possible as I understand this is a open source project. if you know a guy
I'm using my FZ-10 3DO via S-Video connected to a SCART switcher and looks fine. I haven't done a 240p or RGB mod on my 3DO so it's stock!