Wales finally SCRAPS 20mph limit after £32 million WASTED and MASS rebellion
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Said this from the start, 20mph means the car is polluting 150% longer than if it drove through the town at 30mph....These politicians are dumb as a bunch of rocks
But they win.
But it was going to be Drakeford's "LEGACY" ?!
But think of the kick backs.
Not sure of any town in the UK where you can keep to 30!
@@garethwilliams976 Forres.
It’s actually over 34 million wasted. Labour in Wales are two years behind their own date in the treatment of cancer, so why waste this huge amount of money when issues like this are far more important. Bearing in mind that these 20mph speed areas were already at 30mph, which was slow enough for safety! They also completely ignored a report country wide which found there is no safety difference between 20mph and 30mph statistically. And Drakeford doesn’t even drive!…..you couldn’t make it up! Welcome to Labour the rest of the country 🤔
Perhaps you could post a link to this report as I never new it existed - Perhaps it does no?
34 million is a drop in the ocean compared to the tens of bilions the tories wasted on HS2, the 4 billion unaccountable from furlough fraud and 10+ billion on ppe, that has been scrapped as it was never fit for purpose.
I'd say that on that scale, Labour have a lot of catching up to do.😂
@@gregsmith7821 don’t worry, they will!
@@gregsmith7821 Welsh Labour have been wasting money hand over fist for the last 25 years. They have the worst NHS and the worst education record just for starters.
@@ChristineRead-ck1uq But no where near that of the Tory central govt of the last 14 years mate. The same Tory govt that starved Labour held constituencies, while lining their (already full) pockets.
Another Labour masterclass
HOWEVER APPROVED THIS SHOULD BE SUED BY THE PEOPLE
It was clearly stated as policy by Welsh Labour who were re-elected by the Welsh people. Does this mean that those who voted and thus approved the policy should sue themselves?
Just goes to show politics is the last bastion of employment for thick people
@@garethwilliams976 They undertook to look into it not to impose it based on a false set of figures in a report that had just 600 people in favour.
So can the drivers have their endorsements re-established without the points against?
What a waste of money, every child in the country could have been given a bed, because many do not have one. Children could have eaten 3 meals a day because not all of them have food. Thoughtless labour.
I got got fined for doing 24miles in central London at 4:30am. This is all about money for the govt nothing more, nothing less.
What sort of idiots would implement a foolish policy like this…..oh, Labour of course.
Not just any old labour ……welsh labour ! The shister blueprint for uk labour !
Disgraceful bunch of crooks
Wish they removed the 20mph shit from the uk
Reach out to the areas affected with this updated information. West Yorkshire and Scotland suffer too...actually wherever they had far left Councillors/ or alternatively MP's. Note: no public safety difference between 20mph and 30mph statistics show.
I've seen the same speed restrictions while I was on a trip with my 50 cc scooter in southwest Germany. I couldn't take the bigger road because of the maximum speed of my scooter. So I needed to go through all the villages. It annoyed me so much that I went to France.
There's still going to be 20 MPH roads. It's the blanket 20 MPH all over Wales that's going.
@@ElectricSmurf Happy outcome that kids zones are around schools at 20MPH but maybe have these as 9 am to 5pm. The rest of the 20 MPH pollutes more and does not protect pedestrians any more than 30MPH. Was Wales a tax money waster ...using valuable finance which could have supported deserving children?
@@ElectricSmurf in the UK loads of 30mph roads have been changed to 20 which is insanity on some roads
Follow the money, you'll find the truth.
Absolutely a massive success, for the people that give out the contracts for putting all the signage up, & then reverting them back to previous, with yet another contract. Always follow the money, free chocolates any one? wink,wink.
The imported effffniks will never adhere to 20mph limits.
@twoeyedjack6836why did you HAVE TO RUSH AROUND AT 30MPH? You could have still crawled around at 20mph. The speed limit is the MAXIMUM speed allowed. It is not compulsory that you have to travel at that speed
@twoeyedjack6836 leading the way? . Pity about your cancer treatment, your rugby team & your football team 🤣
@twoeyedjack6836 🤣🤣🤣👍
@twoeyedjack6836You're not even a real country. Pipe down.
Back in 1969 when I started Driving, 20 mph got You charged with kerb crawling..
I bet there will only be 50% of the limits returned to the roads of Wales.
After this, people are already ignoring the signs. Many have already been removed.
That's crazy, one Google search would tell you that driving slower is more polluting. How long are we going to stand being ruled over by idiots?
It's been a massively expensive stupid and pointless law.. Imagine what SENSIBLE projects that £32 million COULD have been spent on instead of being frittered away on a frivolous Labour 'vanity project'.. Imagine what GOOD that vast heap of cash could have done in Wales ?.. Anyway, despite the aforementioned points - Congratulations Wales !.. you did it !..
They haven’t yet, that headline is misleading.
On top of making parents or guardians who smack their children into law breakers, giving 16-year-olds the vote and the numerous other 'policies' brought in by Labour 'here in Wales' ~ hasn't devolution been a 'wonderful' success . . .
Cycle lanes have been scrapped in places, cos they weren't used, LTNs / planters have been removed cos they caused havoc with emergency services (and local businesses) now the 20mph scrapped cos it's just Stooopid . . . Whatever next, one asks ❓️
The planters were set fire to in many places…..they go up quite well
*I have not driven to Wales (although I love it) since this ridiculous 20mph Limit threats my 60 Year Clean Licence Record ! "*
A law which has no general acceptance from the people has no validity - a basic rule of jurisprudence
20 mph limits make sense , in certain circumstances such stretches of roads , outside schools , hospitals , old folks homes & busy village ,town & city high streets . Also on residential housing estates . It’s. no great hardship to reduce speed to 20 mph for short distances . If I can do it on a motorcycle , it should be easy for those driving a car , just press down less on the fuel pedal & stop messing around with tech gadgets & concentrate on road & speed .
@@maskedavenger2578 No one would argue with that but 30 mph is a limit not a target. Most road users read the road, take note of warning signs for schools, concealed entrances etc. People who would abuse that and drive recklessly will ignore speed limits anyway. Focus on catching them and not making a fast buck over people who have hit 23mph in a 20 zone
@@jeremykille4689 I agree a lot of the stretches where 20 mph limits are in effect ,is ridiculous & badly thought out making no sense . But the places pointed out on my initial comment such as short distances outside schools ,hospitals ,busy high street & residential areas , I don’t see any problem & even in some rare cases, maybe a justification for even lower than 20 mph limits . The problem is the blanket introduction in areas where it makes no sense & the overly long stretches on some roads ,where it isn’t necessary . Back in the day I was hit by a car whilst on the way home from my primary school. Luckily back in those times we had more thoughtful & less selfish drivers .& i only received slight injury’s ,as the car was traveling a lot less than 30 mph outside my old school . I find most drivers these days do at least 10 mph over the speed limits ,unless a speed camera is present , so the 20 mph limits are only really reducing most drivers to 30 mph in any case in reality .
@@pauldavies1710 I never said speed limits were a target , people should drive or ride slower than posted speed limit , if conditions warrant it . Also vehicle speedometers tend to read at least 5 mph & even more over actual speed ,so there isn’t really any excuse for being nicked for doing 23 in a 20 limit . The plod & the powers that be, aren’t interested in you reading the road , they are more interested in you reading the Highway Code & the Speed limit signage & doing you ,if you transgress any laws or regulations .
32,000,000 is about 6 times the population of wales.
A foreigner minister and poisoned waters. Thank you . May you live forever with what you've done.😢
Pall: so, EACH person could have been given one 6th of that money EACH ... is that right 🤔🤔 and no-one would go hungry again 😢
@@joline2730 6% of 32 million is 1,920,000 my dude. If everyone in Wales got that 6% then it comes to 9600 billion . 😉
A sixth and the math says 2,666667e+13. U invent words for numbers this big.
@@PallSall thanks - I never was that good at maths 🤪🤪
The population is just over 3 million so it's actually 10 times..
As a Welsh resident of almost 40 years the devolved “government” here is atrocious NHS crap, roads crap, & always wasting OUR money like 20 MPH! Wales is Liebours blue print for England, I’d say hard hats are required!
Funny how you keep voting them in, isn't it?
@@radicalcartoons2766 I wouldn’t,couldn’t vote Liebour pocket sized communists. most of them attended public school! Like the commie O’Brian on LBC. As a former company owner, I’m fed up making money for politicians to waste it things like climate emergencies!
I live in north wales on a rural road at the point where a 30mph used to turn into a 40mph, no problem ever then. Now it’s a point where 20mph immediately turns into a 40 and people just floor it after the frustration of crawling along. So many near misses. The irony is that our local labour council create these driving conditions yet couldn’t drive a finger up their own backsides if given a diagram.
I presume you welcome going back to 30 outside your home?
@@garethwilliams976 Absolutely, it’s the flooring it from 20 to 40 on a blind bend that’s an issue. 👍🏻
i love the roads in north wales. what area?
I've been to Saundersfoot a few times this past year, and found it virtually impossible to do 20mph especially in some places where there's a 10/ incline going up in 2nd 🤬 gear when the speed limit starts at the bottom of it, and to top it off there are tight corners as well. The one time I actually see this bloke in a Audi swapping his Reg plates just as he was about to enter the Wales/ England border.😂
I might of got a ticket on way doing 24 as I was changing up gear. Through my village, when all day and night they w⚓s from the local quarry speed through at 40 to 60 and the local factory when they finish at 5pm wheels screeching through the village and driving like c**ts but as usual 2 tier Kier's police are never around. Few months ago I reported a suspicious van hanging around the village, even did DVLA check and had no tax, MOT or insurance for 8 months, low and behold, I got told we can't do anything unless we see it on the road. F**king Mickey mouse outfit the police are.
£32 million. How dare they just wast this amount of money On nothing
Ah but you see ~ Labour's magic money tree ~ you and me . . .
So who pays the money back?
Shall I tell you? Labour's magic money tree ~ you and me.
Don't you believe it. 60 zones to be reduced to 35 mph. No money to councils to revise 20 zones. You really need someone that actually lives in Wales on GBN to call out Liebour 's actual policies.
Political hubris at its best. I hope they saved the signs they took down or the signmakers will be rubbing their hands with glee again. Where I live in Wales they have just cancelled a special needs school that would have cost £28 million, originally £13 million, to replace rickety buildings, to save money, while we watch this debacle over a speed limit that most ignored as it was such a stupid idea anyway.
If they had just asked the people they represent could have saved so much.
Not sure where you got your information from but they not scraping the 20 mph completely so Labour just doing there own thing never listening to the ppl of Wales has normal but ppl still voted for them in Wales l didn't l Voted Reform and will do again
Socialists in wasting money shocker.
If so many signed that petition, why did they all vote in the idiots who dreamed it up?
Meanwhile, Liebour used the Liebour Welsh Assembly as a Paragon of Western Socialism....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does that mean Wales can have its own TT race or a Formula One race around a city?
It's not been scrapped at all and it's being rolled out across the UK.
IT HAS NOT BEEN SCRAPPED OR RESCINDED. Those control freaks of the wooden shed have put it on to councils, the majority of whom will not be changing speed limits back to pre 17/9/23. More and more dual carriageways are now 50mph stating 'problems with barriers' that are never worked on. Those speed limits will become permanent if they are on the roadside for 18 months. Much of the M4 in Wales is 50mph with average speed cameras. The new dual carriageway at Abergavenny is 50mph with average speed cameras. Wales is a permanent go-slow.
I cycle. and i despise the 20 hph it is horrid now
There is no 10% tolerance on speed limit violation, it's a urban myth.
As you say though, timed 20mph outside schools is a good idea.
Difficult to organise the timed limits. Many schools run an extended day and also Weekend , evening and holiday clubs so it would involve electronic signalling so it could be altered on a daily basis. The cost of the electronics alone would be astronomical.
From the creation of the motorised vehicles 30mph has been considered safe in built up areas. The brakes on modern vehicles are so much better than those of yesteryear too.
Living in Wales, I haven't seen anything about this?
It was in the National and local press as well as on both BBC and ITN main and local news. Perhaps you were out.
@@garethwilliams976😂😂😂😂
Gearing down clearly means more engine strokes per mile, resulting in more fuel burned in _'Green Wales'_ and then there's the added cost for deliveries, what were they thinking? This is what happens when leaders isolate themselves from the people and have no counsel, or refuse to hear it.
Proverbs 15:22
Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.
So, so easy to spend other people’s money - no, waste other people’s money, disgraceful
It's English tax payers' money, don't worry about the £32m. No doubt they're busy thinking up a new way to spend our money.
So we don't pay tax?
Shit comment geezer
Most rules are there for one reason and one reason only; to impress upon you who is boss, and it's not you.
Good, I live in Wales and it should never have come to this
The reality is the different between 20 and 30 is next to nothing, however the reasons they implemented the blanket20 are fucking ridiculous. Just like these speed limits for "air quality"
I'm from Bridgend south Wales and I am extremely pissed off that so much money has been wasted when the town is full of homeless people sleeping in doorways and people using food banks to survive, right now I'm embarrassed to be Welsh!!!.
No more being undertaken by a push bike
They put in the 20MPH limit in my village (Stow, Scottish Borders) as an experiment and I've never seen the traffic speeds so high on average. Drivers are now fully aware there is pretty much zero chance of being pulled for speeding. They used to have an infrequent speed check a few years back as you came into the village from Edinburgh. It was stopped, due to it being to dangerous because of the speed of drivers coming past! Couldn't make up the BS they peddle these days!
This country is just one big joke
Not much of a rebellion, we still got labour.
They react to this but not to the government's overreach in the last years pusillanimity persists
£32 Million wasted, oh well it's only taxpayers money. Is this what we will expect from a useless Labour government.
extra £5m has been allocated to reassess the speed limit on 20mph roads, the Welsh government has announced....it's not being totally scrapped.
37 mill.... what a waste.
@mofo5206 Welsh Labour has got form for it...
I am Welsh and I can say that with kier Starmer and mark drakeford in charge of wales before you voted him in as pm, he really did make things hard for us here and many of us saw this coming…
@cuuurlyfries5246 I hear the Welsh all the time blaming Westminster for their woes... yet have a Labour run devolved government..
@@cuuurlyfries5246Will Wales continue to blame Westminster for their woes...
I drove around Wales earlier this year and only found 1 road where I actually thought 20mph was the right limit for a short distance. Main road narrow with tight bend and pedestrians the rest clearly were too slow and being ignored by the majority
I'll believe this WHEN I SEE IT!! People drive at 20 mph in 30 , 40 and even 50 mph zones. It's chaos!
Problem is it spread to the Wirral in Merseyside too we now spend more time driving being followed by road rage loons if you follow the 20mph limit,and we have 100 yards of 30mph then it switches to 20mph it's awful my car hates driving in 2nd gear and revving it's nuts off in 2ndall day long around town.
34 million that could have gone to improve services taxpayers instead of forcing a ridiculous speed restriction on people they don't want
What do you expect from a clown far keft parish council that death determined tampons as non essential
“A sweet spot between that and curb crawling” 😂😂😂
So where is all this money
That's Labour folks .. a total joke..
I live in the North east of England and the council introduced a 20 mph limit on all roads in our town 8 years ago at the time i thought it was crazy on all roads but we have getting used to it and i now appreciate how much more safer it is for pedestrians and car users to travel at 20 mph instead of 30 mph and with modern technology in cars such as speed limiters it is much easier to stick to.
32 million wasted,AGAIN,we must be a very rich country🤑🤑🤑
There is no such thing as the 10% tolerance, the speed limit is the speed limit. Staffordshire has a zero tolerance, I attended a speed awareness course and there were two women who were there for doing 31 mph in a 30 mph zone!
It depends on the area...the 10% was for the speedo error..given that all cars are different, and a speedometer doesn't take into account tyre wear... new tyres mean it's as close to the true speed as possible...I used to deliver to police garages in the Yorkshire area...the amount of half worn tyres piled up was unreal...I asked what was wrong with them..the reply was they were changing when half worn because the calibrated speedo would be inaccurate...that's a calibrated speedo...what chance do we have with the inaccurate stock speedo..?.. GPS speedos are much better
They won't change them.....
At least the Welsh government listened in the end. 🇬🇧
They have same problem in London!! 20MPH... it is damn difficult!! yet people of london are so placid!! they accept whatever is thrown at them!!
Can't believe they have used common sense at last I am peed off with tail gaters driving in Wrexham
Fines for 20 zones should now be repaid, points removed and licences returned with compensation. And no extra funding for the councils that wasted this money. Politicians that supported this crap should pay for the losses to send a message to councils across the uk thinking about implementing this anti freedom rubbish…
This is why we really don't want speed limiters mandated in cars. It would remove any possibility of a speed limit being "unenforcable" and the government could then race all our speed limits to zero whilst ensuring complete compliance. 20 mph on motorways, anyone?
Thank god common sense prevailed
I heard that the Welsh Government is leaving the decisions on road speed limits to the country's local authorities.
A village near me in Herefordshire is 30mph and just through the village is the primary school and the speed limit is 40mph .
How the government and council waist money and plead poverty 😡
460,000 signed it like me
You signed nothing. All you did was push a button. It was not a petition which has to be on paper bearing your signature and address. I suspect that many who 'signed' lived outside Wales
Local government squandered money on ventire like this rather than spend mpney where its needed, yts a cruel world
10% = 4MPH so 26mph before prosecution.
Only in cities, towns and villages.
I thought Wales has no monies. The sheep will go hungry??
They may do if they keep turning agricultural land into plastic solar farms
This is not true. They've said its up to local authorites to decide. And they have no money to do that. Clickbait.
Waste of money 😢
Plymouth’s labour council has announced plans so put a blanket 20mph speed limit in much of the city with average speed cameras this week 😮📸
WEF agenda.
Since any fines for breaking the limit go to central government it doesn't make sense for them to do this. Wirral council have done this as well.
Numpties rule - but they were voted in - ok, also by numpties.
But, but, but I thought Labour were going to introduce through the entire country?
I wonder if the government will charge us for breathing next, they are so ludicrious with their polices and i wouldnt put it past them
It isnt scrapped. we have got to tell our councils where we want 20mph targeted and what roads to go back to 30mph. The trouble is ive emailed Swansea Council (my council) since September when they braught it in and they are reluctant to make any changes, they dont email me back anymore. It is frustrating being ignored
My neighbour can't get treatment for her cancer , gets me angry AF and they waste money on this crap. Must admit tho I see one person in 10 at most that drives at 20 and they get tail gated and over taken, people don't have time for that sht we have places to be.
Nick's joke about his Lambo is more correct than he thinks. In the late '80s/early '90s I was working in a bank in the middle of Manchester, where the manager commuted to work (in average 15mph traffic) every day in his Ferrari. One of the jobs of the "messengers" (older guys who ran the mail room) was to clean the oiled-up spark plugs on the Ferrari as soon as it cooled down so that it would start again when he went to go home.
(I used a 500cc motorbike for work. I used to encounter my boss, on his 80cc scooter, almost every day, and he was usually faster through the traffic than I was.)
At last common sense prevails. Drakefords legacy, what an idiot.
Our roads here in Wales have potholes in potholes, some of them large enough to disturb a 40 ton trucker.
This was always a disaster and the kremlin dwellers down in the Bay know it.
Now sort the NHS, Police and Councils etc etc etc and perhaps there'd be singing once again in the valleys.
Any chance of the 50mph motorway speed limit(To limit emissions 😩)going the same way.The Welsh have to put up with some s- - t politicians
Man with red flag in front of Cars next in Wales lol
A damning indictment on devolution which causes postcode lotteries among other things....
It hasn't been scrapped. Your reporting is wrong. The idiotic policy is being reviewed and Welsh Govt are asking people to contact their local authorities to suggest which roads should revert to 30mph
Labour knows best
This is why the UK is a international joke. Went to an investor meeting in Dubai, they told me please no UK and Syria thank you.
More money wasted by a group of desk jockey's who only listen to their own voices, Wasting that amount of money is like stealing so they should pay for it.
What about the 20mph in London !!!
Signs can be sold to the SNP.
Crazy people in parliament we have one in the village that says 20 and 100 metres down the hill another sign says 40 miles a hour some one must be making a load of cash out of signage also got three flazing speed signs telling you what speed your doing council tax wasted like the twinning of towns in Europe sign's that where put every where
Utter baloney.
Wales was allocated £32m to change to 20mph. They have allocated £2m to change back.
Work that one out. It ain’t going to happen!!
NO, IT'S NOT BEEN SCRAPPED!!
NO IT'S NOT BEEN SCRAPPED!!
Please change the title
After being overtaken repeatedly by bikes who don't leave 1 1/2 meters gap is ridiculous but not dangerous seems a bit stupid
Labour and their great ideas
😅got done for 26mph. Now £100 fine ok but 3 points for 26mph seems a p1ss take!
Wales is Labours blueprint for the UK (Starmers words) and guess what you guys all voted for it,enjoy.