Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get free vitamin D3/K2 - Magic Spoon: magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get free shipping - Cash App: cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 2:45 - Are we alone in the universe? 4:13 - Life on Earth 9:05 - Collective intelligence of human brains 17:53 - Triune brain 24:03 - The predicting brain 31:58 - How the brain evolved 37:58 - Free will 46:51 - Is anything real? 59:23 - Dreams 1:05:11 - Emotions are human-constructed concepts 1:30:40 - Are women more emotional than men? 1:39:16 - Empathy 2:10:56 - Love 2:14:50 - Mortality 2:16:26 - Meaning of life
Hello Lex. I just wanted to say that I love every episode of your 1st-rate Podcast. In every episode, your show offers up a myriad of topics & sub-topics, mostly associated with Artificial intelligence, Human Actions & Reactions, et al. I am a fan of Joe Rogan & his incredible Podcast. I know Joe is a mentor of your's, & it comes through in your own interpretation of an "Entertainment & Educational" show, all with your personality & vast knowledge in many topics. I suppose what I am trying to say is that I firmly believe your Podcast/Show, has the qualitative information & topics similar to the Joe Rogan Experience show. Congratulations on the amount of shows thus far, & I look forward to every show of your's in the future Lex. Cheers & Respect, STEPHEN W. Armstrong BC 🇨🇦
She is absolutely correct about the brain predictability function, but it's nothing significant. It's rather the consequence of uncertainty, while the brain still require stimuli to confirm results of approximations. Those approximations, or predictions corresponding to time parameter and seeking stimuli. However when you born you were not able to make predictions without existence of specific stimuli. Your brain constantly approximate, and the closer you are in precision, the more adaptive you are. But it depends on familiarity of environmental adaptive capacity. If your environment would change, you would need way more information to make predictions. There is no meaningful sense to speak about free will, when your decision making process depends on environmental stimuli. Without any stimuli there is no purpose of making decisions upon. It's rather the question of degrees of freedom we experience rather than free will. Plus not even mention the brain reward system to prioritise and select motivation. Most of the time you make decisions based on what your brain prioritise as reward not even remotely relevant to speak in terms of free will.
This is so interesting. Currently, I'm writing something that explores a lot of the things Dr. Barrett touches on. The proposition is that humans can solve every problem we have if we approached things empirically and from the axiom that humans are the creators of their own simulacrum of reality in their minds. Add to that the simulacra created by social media and we have arrived at a very disillusioned time in history that can lead to our demise. It's incumbent upon us to think about not just solutions to problems, but the actual hard evidence of our reality in the socially real sense (not quantum or abstract). The innumerable amount of suffering the populations of this planet face outweigh the positive aspects of our society and we should probably fix it.
@@36TRecords Agree, but unlike Joe, Lex stays away from conspiracy theorists and the other crazy popular culture things in the name of open mindedness or commercial success. I hope Lex continues to stay away from that - which he has done so far.
Lex your podcast is the best around. No joke. You have such interesting guests on and ask thought provoking and insightful questions. Love it man you rock! Keep up the great work!!!
I first learned of LFB when she was one of the first guests on your old podcast, after which I went on to hunt down pretty much everything she's put out ... she's such a brilliant, brilliant scientist and a black belt communicator.
Lisa was a PLEASURE to listen to..She seems well grounded in scientific naturalism, and has an ability to make difficult concepts easily accessible.. With the singular exception that there MAY be something magical going on in the brain, her interview was music to my ears.. I'll definitely buy the book. Thanks.
@PED GSP Yeah I think I get your point.. Ungrounded assumptions, right? For example, it may seem as though you are an anti-social, troubled, monosyllabic neanderthal, but that is POSSIBLY not the case..
This was one of the best podcast conversations I've ever heard. Both the wealth of knowledge and insight bestowed by Lisa, but also the fantastically constructive dynamic and grace in the conversation. Truly riveting; 'How Emotions Are Made' added to basket.
One of the things I love from Lex is that he always starts fast and with the most wanted or complicated question . That always hook me for the whole episode.
Her previous book was one of the most revealing I’ve read in the past year and it’s changed the way I think about emotions and feelings in profoundly beneficial way. Amazing work...
I'm a mother to an amazing 5 years old and have other responsibilities during the day that would have made it impossible for me to listen to your podcasts, but I'm grateful for my Bluetooth headset and for the time I have during making dinner for my family which I mostly spends listening and being enlightened by you and your amazing guests. Thank you
Please have her on again! This podcast has enriched my understanding and compassion for the world around me and, shockingly, for myself. Empathy starts with understanding and this - THIS - is what we are all lacking in our current discourse.
This is like a 2 hr midnight gospel episode. Her voice is soothing and her delivery is perfect to blow you mind. Very self aware empathic and knowledgeable. What a pure soul. Mush Love ✌️✌️✌️
Outstanding person. Ms. Barrett has an excellent way of delivering concepts and also keeps you engaged and wanting to learn more. One of the best podcasts I have listened to. It is worth noting that I feel better when I hear an intelligent thoughtful person who can communicate in a rational and yet warm manner. Cheers, 🇨🇦
I feel like this is one of the most important episodes to date. I learned about the brain, our social blindspots and how to better empathize and interact with other humans.
There’s so much depth of complexity in these beautifully and simply articulated statements. When saying the brain uses “past experiences to conjure a concept which is a prediction” in the way that emotions are poetry are action. Later followed by “depression and anxiety are just a way of being in the world when things aren’t quite right with your predictions“, reminding me yet again of the chaos and the magic of ordering it, which is so much of what makes the work/art richer. Simply beautiful.
Lisa is absolutely amazing in her clarity, her insights, her connections. Her knowledge is the whole tree, the philosophical thinking, the scientific research, her own experience. The great thing for me is that how she constructs her explanations is clearly the result of living them. Also, Lex is unique in the people he finds plus the amount they reveal in his interviews. ‘How emotions are made’ is now on my audible wish list.
Possibly the most extraordinary 120min i have spent listening to anyone. Prof. Barrett was Fascinating, awesome, and awe-inspiring. Best podcast in the business!
This is one of those epic podcast episodes I will listen to many times again. What a brilliant conversation. Thank you for using the Internet to promote all of this.
This is so amazing! The density of wisdom is immense! Having watched tons of the podcasts by Lex and others, this is the one where I ended up making the max notes! I feel so much better hearing the wisdom from Lisa. Admiration and respect, for both!
@@deBeauvoir sure, it's worth exchanging ideas. I am doing a phd research in the area of affective robotics (ict/psychology). Just finished last Lisa's book :)
paaablo80 Interesting, congrats on your endeavors! Professionally I’m nowhere close to the scientific realms but for a few years now I’m fascinated and learning about the discoveries that are made about the predictive brain, affective realism, interception and so on. And after reading Lisa’s book 3 years ago, I was blown away. Not so much the people around me.🙂 It might be a stereotype, but if you’re a woman and have no studies in psychology or neuroscience, conversations as such are dismissed. 🙂 I’m just a speck in this vast universe looking for some raw conversations. My brain is launching some predictions, and I’m ready to update my model regarding encountering other curious excited, grateful minds...but I’m ready for prediction errors as well. By default 😊
Lex, you have quickly become one of my favorite people to listen to. Thank you for all you are doing to have and shed light on some of life’s most sought after conversations.
Really enjoyed Lisa Feldman Barrett talking about the brain - fascinating ideas and concepts-she’s just a great guest with a relaxed friendly style . I’ll be reading her new book when it’s out . Thanks Lex , keep up the good work
Lex, you always call out the “brilliance “ of your guests, yet it’s your brilliance that makes the magic happen. You’re a Culture Creator for our world. Thank you for shaping our world for our good. Outstanding learning from this session and all others.
45:54 "You cannot change your past... But what you can do is change your present, which then becomes your past." "People are continually cultivating their past."
As much as I am enthralled how you are exploring the process of interviewing people of different fields, I believe there is a dire need to interview someone from the field of literature as well. I believe they would have some interesting insights regarding Artificial Intelligence too. Much love, and respect.
With a sci-fi author perhaps. Artists and writers tend to be too uninformed about science and technology, whereas sci/tech people seem to have good-enough knowledge of humanities. But hey, I'm biased.
I think some of us downplay the role of fiction in this relativistic reality of ours. Take 1984 by George Orwell for instance; the book may have been written in 1940s but it's significance is as much relevant now as it was in any other age. Why? Because George Orwell had the capacity of imagining how things can turn out in future, with no obligation to restrict himself with expectations of pragmatism, or morality in his stories. In this way, any worthwhile writer who creates fiction incorporating future civilisation and artificial intelligence may prove himself to be more precise than, say, a philosopher. At least that is my point of view.
“There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.” ― David M. Eagleman
The first death is the poop you poop and go back to earth. Second is when you go to sleep. Third is when the body dies. Fourth is when the memories of you dies in others people brains. Fifth is when the grand external entities that has been a womb to you ( culturally) dies. Oh and there are more.
Listening to this conversation makes me realize the deep philosophy of computer programming. From 'concepts' being 'class inheritance' to probabilistic decision neurons and machine learning activations, etc. It all just anthropomorphizes so beautifully.
This conversation beautifully illustrates the enormity of the challenge when one attempts to make sense of everything that's going on in the world today, taking into account all the suffering and confusing global and internal histories we have on this earth. These two people agree on most factors to consider, as well as a common goal, and to watch them struggling to exchange their ideas, even with so much in common, shows how intrinsically difficult the goal of sharing values can be.
"I fly faster on my back" -Lisa She's a woman "Superman flies faster on his stomach"-Lisa He's a man :) "Do fly often? I haven't flown for many years" -Lex
I bought both of Lisa's books and they are incredible! She's phenomenal! This episode completely changed the way I view evolution and how the brain works. Being a neuroscience enthusiast, I follow new research very closely and as Lisa said, most have not updated their theory of how our brain works even with new evidence! That is preposterous! Thank you so much for hosting such an incredible podcast that expands the knowledge of so many! Your interview questions are always so pensive and your optimism about humanity and life is admirable. Keep it up, Lex!
This is one of the most useful podcast I've listened to in a very long time. Thank you Alex. Please bring on Andrew Huberman too, even better have him on along with Lisa.
I try to avoid hyperbole whenever I can, and I've watch some pretty incredible videos on various channels that have changed my constructed paradigm of the universe, but this one flipped my universe on its head. Absolutely incredible and brilliant.
This podcast is so important! Lots of insightful data about human emotions and beliefs. You’re really nailing it Lex! With the Mission of giving the world important information to reflect And change their minds ❤
Lately I tend to skip to the guest's view on the meaning of life first, then rewind and listen to the entire conversation - it sort of frames it nicely
-Let me push back on that a little. Don't you think that there's a risk that you become biased against what they are saying if you don't agree with/like their view on life? But that's just a thought, maybe you are very open minded.
@@henrikbergman4055 no, not really to tell you the truth. I'm not particularly open minded, but as an introvert I'm not usually that much "biased" one way or another towards fellow humans whatever they say, for I just keep them at a distance - so to speak. Besides, people's take on "the meaning of it all" is really tangential to the main topics that Lex asks about, so I think I keep the two aspects as separate in terms of any judgment I might have on them. Or maybe I'm just curious to hear their answer. Spin-off idea for a 3' video series: the meaning of life according to remarkable people :-D
@@davidebarranca5370 Hm. Yes, you are right. Don't actually need to be open minded to not be biased. I'm also introverted and keep people at a distance, but could be that I assume that "the meaning of it all"- question says more about people and their choices than it really does. When Lex has an creationist paleontologist on I might get back to you.
understanding and accepting our emotions as humans ... that is the way we can get in flow together as a society, accepting the necessity of providing support and guidance for all
Fantastic conversation. The selection of amazing guests really makes this podcast the single most thought provoking, mind expanding thing that I know of.
Lex is my new go-to podcast. He has great questions, is a skilled listener, and has had some fantastic guests. As someone who read this book years ago (and re-read numerous times), I was stoked to see Lisa on here. Awesome episode Lex. Keep up the high quality work mate!
I am a neuroscientist studying consciousness. Love the podcast. A great guest would be Prof Jonathan Schooler at UC Santa Barbara, one of the most forward thinking individuals in our field.
Lisa, thank you, I learned so much! Your expertise and dedication to your field is inspiring. Lex, thank you for providing such amazing content. You’re a thoughtful and attuned interviewer, which makes these podcasts very enjoyable to listen to. You’ve provided me with so much access to education and new ways of thinking, and I’m extremely grateful.
Not correct. Things are in line with your predictions, the problem is that your predictions are built in a self-destructive way. So that your inner model is a bad one, pathological.
Very seldom do I listen to a podcast episode twice, but I did just that with this one. There were many brilliant thoughts and insights in this one. Thank you.
I definitely bought that book when it was first released. I just found this older podcast. Lex, you think of the best topics and guests. Such a mind deserves great applause. 👏 I had no idea you were super famous, but I definitely see why. Kudos to your continued knowledge sharing and insight into the minds of interesting humans. 💜
Oh my gosh Thank you for your conversation… how insightful for me, I am constantly looking for the meaning of my emotions and it troubles me sometimes. Why I have so much anxiety. There is so much to say about it , it seems to me if you are searching fo the nature of consciousness this is one of the top of the line. Much love to you both!!!
I noticed this too, with great amusement. It seems she is so beautifully present in the conversation with Lex that she forgets to look away from him, even after he mentioned the camera. Such a delightful conversation!
Lex, I've not seen you struggle so much as I saw in the first hour and a half of this. It looked as if it took a lot of your body budget to get in tune with. Thanks for a wonderful discussion and spending the effort it took.
Dense, passionating, an amazing interview with one of our brightest minds. I always thought the action reaction was inaccurate but Lisa took it to a whole other level. I take from this that most theories in psychology are about to fall apart. Or at least every model based on action/reaction from ACE to polyvagal stuff. This can create a whole new path for therapists. You save the internet Sir. Absolutely fantastic interview.
I’m late to the party with this interview, but LFB’s work completely transformed how I work with my therapy clients in addition to how I approach my own life. She is one of the most important thinkers of our time.
Thank you for doing these Lex!! You have fully and totally sent me down the rabbit hole of A.I, quantum mechanics, Cosmology and the list continues...you have re-ignited my love of learning new things😁 Really and truly thank you, I've so enjoyed watching these and your progression as well!
Our free will is very limited by: Genetics Family upbringings Intelligence Physical abilities Amount of money we have Environment Laws and so on The list is huge. We have a very tiny portion of a free will and should really make good use of it
Preordering! My reading list is stacking up fast because of your podcast, Lex. Your content is delightfully stimulating. For me, it's like reading Walden and basking in inspiration, admiration and titillation one line after another. Spasibo! 😊
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0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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2:45 - Are we alone in the universe?
4:13 - Life on Earth
9:05 - Collective intelligence of human brains
17:53 - Triune brain
24:03 - The predicting brain
31:58 - How the brain evolved
37:58 - Free will
46:51 - Is anything real?
59:23 - Dreams
1:05:11 - Emotions are human-constructed concepts
1:30:40 - Are women more emotional than men?
1:39:16 - Empathy
2:10:56 - Love
2:14:50 - Mortality
2:16:26 - Meaning of life
Hello Lex. I just wanted to say that I love every episode of your 1st-rate Podcast. In every episode, your show offers up a myriad of topics & sub-topics, mostly associated with Artificial intelligence, Human Actions & Reactions, et al.
I am a fan of Joe Rogan & his incredible Podcast. I know Joe is a mentor of your's, & it comes through in your own interpretation of an "Entertainment & Educational" show, all with your personality & vast knowledge in many topics.
I suppose what I am trying to say is that I firmly believe your Podcast/Show, has the qualitative information & topics similar to the Joe Rogan Experience show.
Congratulations on the amount of shows thus far, & I look forward to every show of your's in the future Lex.
Cheers & Respect,
STEPHEN W.
Armstrong BC 🇨🇦
She is absolutely correct about the brain predictability function, but it's nothing significant. It's rather the consequence of uncertainty, while the brain still require stimuli to confirm results of approximations. Those approximations, or predictions corresponding to time parameter and seeking stimuli. However when you born you were not able to make predictions without existence of specific stimuli. Your brain constantly approximate, and the closer you are in precision, the more adaptive you are. But it depends on familiarity of environmental adaptive capacity. If your environment would change, you would need way more information to make predictions.
There is no meaningful sense to speak about free will, when your decision making process depends on environmental stimuli. Without any stimuli there is no purpose of making decisions upon. It's rather the question of degrees of freedom we experience rather than free will. Plus not even mention the brain reward system to prioritise and select motivation. Most of the time you make decisions based on what your brain prioritise as reward not even remotely relevant to speak in terms of free will.
This is so interesting. Currently, I'm writing something that explores a lot of the things Dr. Barrett touches on. The proposition is that humans can solve every problem we have if we approached things empirically and from the axiom that humans are the creators of their own simulacrum of reality in their minds. Add to that the simulacra created by social media and we have arrived at a very disillusioned time in history that can lead to our demise. It's incumbent upon us to think about not just solutions to problems, but the actual hard evidence of our reality in the socially real sense (not quantum or abstract).
The innumerable amount of suffering the populations of this planet face outweigh the positive aspects of our society and we should probably fix it.
@@Kamlapasand12345 I'd love to see an episode around the topics of romantic relationships and loneliness.
@@36TRecords Agree, but unlike Joe, Lex stays away from conspiracy theorists and the other crazy popular culture things in the name of open mindedness or commercial success. I hope Lex continues to stay away from that - which he has done so far.
I told this before and now saying it again: Lex , you are saving the Internet. Great interview.
Lex, you are a public service. Another brilliant interview.
Agree! 😊
Indeed.
So true. Well said. :) :)
So true! Actually helps me feel less stressed.
And he’s a gentleman. Thanks Lex.
"i dont think you should ask questions like that unless your passing a joint" - Lisa to Lex 👌 perfect!
"apologize for not sharing, that's ok", gold
Yeah. Student likes getting stoned and asking deep questions to smart people. And figured out how to get paid for it. Genius.
Where was this?! I guess I’m not there yet! 😂
timestamp ? :)
@@zaratustra00 47:06
Lex your podcast is the best around. No joke. You have such interesting guests on and ask thought provoking and insightful questions. Love it man you rock! Keep up the great work!!!
Totally! One of the best podcasts out there. Fantastic discussions.
Agreed
Couldn't agree more
His guest are amazing, but his voice as killing me. So annoying for me.
he made her interesting, her book is awful... filled with lots of predictable waffle
amazingly this is one of the trippiest interviews that lex has done. 10/10
I first learned of LFB when she was one of the first guests on your old podcast, after which I went on to hunt down pretty much everything she's put out ... she's such a brilliant, brilliant scientist and a black belt communicator.
Same!!! 🤩 Life changing!
Soo well said, dude... I'm stealing 'black belt communicator', thank you 🫡
Lisa was a PLEASURE to listen to..She seems well grounded in scientific naturalism, and has an ability to make difficult concepts easily accessible.. With the singular exception that there MAY be something magical going on in the brain, her interview was music to my ears.. I'll definitely buy the book. Thanks.
You are over 100% correct
@PED GSP Yeah I think I get your point.. Ungrounded assumptions, right? For example, it may seem as though you are an anti-social, troubled, monosyllabic neanderthal, but that is POSSIBLY not the case..
@PED GSP Maybe I'm reaching a little on the POSSIBLY part..
Math is magic bro
Why are you bothered by such a simple thing as a word ? Magic is just something we don't understand.
This was one of the best podcast conversations I've ever heard. Both the wealth of knowledge and insight bestowed by Lisa, but also the fantastically constructive dynamic and grace in the conversation. Truly riveting; 'How Emotions Are Made' added to basket.
What am an incredible woman! Such a thought-provoking podcast. Thank you for this, Lex
One of the things I love from Lex is that he always starts fast and with the most wanted or complicated question . That always hook me for the whole episode.
Now I know why Lex is still single, he's looking for this woman's younger self.
I literally thought this too
Nah he’s got the hots for Whitney Cummings :)
@@stevenrogersfineart4224 dying 🤣
She had me at "mushrooms and octopuses".
So much weirdness in such few words.
Her previous book was one of the most revealing I’ve read in the past year and it’s changed the way I think about emotions and feelings in profoundly beneficial way. Amazing work...
It was the same for me. Life changing!
I'm a mother to an amazing 5 years old and have other responsibilities during the day that would have made it impossible for me to listen to your podcasts, but I'm grateful for my Bluetooth headset and for the time I have during making dinner for my family which I mostly spends listening and being enlightened by you and your amazing guests. Thank you
Please have her on again! This podcast has enriched my understanding and compassion for the world around me and, shockingly, for myself. Empathy starts with understanding and this - THIS - is what we are all lacking in our current discourse.
This is like a 2 hr midnight gospel episode. Her voice is soothing and her delivery is perfect to blow you mind. Very self aware empathic and knowledgeable. What a pure soul. Mush Love ✌️✌️✌️
Outstanding person. Ms. Barrett has an excellent way of delivering concepts and also keeps you engaged and wanting to learn more.
One of the best podcasts I have listened to. It is worth noting that I feel better when I hear an intelligent thoughtful person who can communicate in a rational and yet warm manner. Cheers, 🇨🇦
My God I've been listening a long time and never comment. This is by far the best conversation I have ever heard. Brilliant woman.
I feel like this is one of the most important episodes to date. I learned about the brain, our social blindspots and how to better empathize and interact with other humans.
There’s so much depth of complexity in these beautifully and simply articulated statements. When saying the brain uses “past experiences to conjure a concept which is a prediction” in the way that emotions are poetry are action. Later followed by “depression and anxiety are just a way of being in the world when things aren’t quite right with your predictions“, reminding me yet again of the chaos and the magic of ordering it, which is so much of what makes the work/art richer. Simply beautiful.
"I'm not talking about dynausors honey" 🤣
Hahaha, I felt that
hunny**
Timestamp?
@@littlebird3495 haha yeah.
@@alexandracomus755 32:48
Lisa is absolutely amazing in her clarity, her insights, her connections. Her knowledge is the whole tree, the philosophical thinking, the scientific research, her own experience. The great thing for me is that how she constructs her explanations is clearly the result of living them. Also, Lex is unique in the people he finds plus the amount they reveal in his interviews.
‘How emotions are made’ is now on my audible wish list.
Bring Robert Sapolsky!
ADRENAL GLANDS INTENSIFIES
And please ask him the most deep questions about life !
@Ed T Seriously?! I didn't watch it yet, so I don't know. Do you have the timestamp of when Lex hints about it?
@Ed T Thank you so much!
Yes, this.
Possibly the most extraordinary 120min i have spent listening to anyone. Prof. Barrett was Fascinating, awesome, and awe-inspiring. Best podcast in the business!
This is one of those epic podcast episodes I will listen to many times again. What a brilliant conversation. Thank you for using the Internet to promote all of this.
This is so amazing! The density of wisdom is immense! Having watched tons of the podcasts by Lex and others, this is the one where I ended up making the max notes! I feel so much better hearing the wisdom from Lisa. Admiration and respect, for both!
This may be one of the most important conversations I’ve ever heard you have... love and honor forevermore Lex ❤️⚔️
I love the quiet enthusiasm imbued in each word, each gesture. This woman is great
Lisa is one of the most influential scientists in the area of psychology and especially theories of the affect
Indeed! A brilliant mind!
paaablo80 I would love to talk to you and share how we’re experiencing her ideas, if you’re interested.
@@deBeauvoir sure, it's worth exchanging ideas. I am doing a phd research in the area of affective robotics (ict/psychology). Just finished last Lisa's book :)
paaablo80 Interesting, congrats on your endeavors!
Professionally I’m nowhere close to the scientific realms but for a few years now I’m fascinated and learning about the discoveries that are made about the predictive brain, affective realism, interception and so on.
And after reading Lisa’s book 3 years ago, I was blown away. Not so much the people around me.🙂
It might be a stereotype, but if you’re a woman and have no studies in psychology or neuroscience, conversations as such are dismissed. 🙂
I’m just a speck in this vast universe looking for some raw conversations.
My brain is launching some predictions, and I’m ready to update my model regarding encountering other curious excited, grateful minds...but I’m ready for prediction errors as well. By default 😊
Lex, you have quickly become one of my favorite people to listen to. Thank you for all you are doing to have and shed light on some of life’s most sought after conversations.
"Depression and Anxiety are a way to be in the world when things aren't quite right with your predictions" 🤯
That just about says it all in a nutshell
Lisa is a phenomenally effective yet gentle communicator combined with a powerful, deeply perceptive intellect.
best comment. so true.
@@uicukie Thank you.
“I take a lot of comfort in curiosity.” YES 🙌🏼
Really enjoyed Lisa Feldman Barrett talking about the brain - fascinating ideas and concepts-she’s just a great guest with a relaxed friendly style . I’ll be reading her new book when it’s out . Thanks Lex , keep up
the good work
This is slowly becoming my favorite podcast lex. You’re killing it.
Lisa is absolutely brilliant. Her book How Emotions Are Made is one of my all-time favorites.
Same here!
This is becoming my favourite podcast!
For me this show rapidly overtook Joe Rogan's. Lex and Weinstein's podcasts are awesome, and we are lucky Lex is so productive. :)
Bro, you are knocking it out of the park lately with these guest choices. Thank you Lex!
“No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness.”
― Aristotle
Define madness
@@papialeman geez Socrates calm down😂
Lex's voice is relaxing. Keep watching this channel for a hours without noticing it.
So good. The way you ended the interview, I'm just filled with positivity and hope.
Lex, you always call out the “brilliance “ of your guests, yet it’s your brilliance that makes the magic happen. You’re a Culture Creator for our world. Thank you for shaping our world for our good.
Outstanding learning from this session and all others.
What a GREAT interview!
I watched it twice and focused my mind on different aspects of the discussion each time... wow, there is so much here. 👍👍👍
45:54 "You cannot change your past... But what you can do is change your present, which then becomes your past." "People are continually cultivating their past."
such a brilliant idea, one among dozens in here. best guest by far.
mindblown
As much as I am enthralled how you are exploring the process of interviewing people of different fields, I believe there is a dire need to interview someone from the field of literature as well. I believe they would have some interesting insights regarding Artificial Intelligence too. Much love, and respect.
Why?
With a sci-fi author perhaps. Artists and writers tend to be too uninformed about science and technology, whereas sci/tech people seem to have good-enough knowledge of humanities. But hey, I'm biased.
@Windigo Jones So do philosophers. There are many kinds of stories and many kinds of literature.
I think some of us downplay the role of fiction in this relativistic reality of ours. Take 1984 by George Orwell for instance; the book may have been written in 1940s but it's significance is as much relevant now as it was in any other age. Why? Because George Orwell had the capacity of imagining how things can turn out in future, with no obligation to restrict himself with expectations of pragmatism, or morality in his stories. In this way, any worthwhile writer who creates fiction incorporating future civilisation and artificial intelligence may prove himself to be more precise than, say, a philosopher. At least that is my point of view.
Fascinating! I appreciate her rejection of Plato’s theory of the brain. Her separate stage theory is worth considering. Thanks for posing bruh!!
“There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.”
― David M. Eagleman
Give me any horror movie instead of this quote.
The first death is the poop you poop and go back to earth. Second is when you go to sleep. Third is when the body dies. Fourth is when the memories of you dies in others people brains. Fifth is when the grand external entities that has been a womb to you ( culturally) dies. Oh and there are more.
Listening to this conversation makes me realize the deep philosophy of computer programming. From 'concepts' being 'class inheritance' to probabilistic decision neurons and machine learning activations, etc. It all just anthropomorphizes so beautifully.
Love Lisa as a person and her input. Another great video Lex.
This conversation beautifully illustrates the enormity of the challenge when one attempts to make sense of everything that's going on in the world today, taking into account all the suffering and confusing global and internal histories we have on this earth. These two people agree on most factors to consider, as well as a common goal, and to watch them struggling to exchange their ideas, even with so much in common, shows how intrinsically difficult the goal of sharing values can be.
"I fly faster on my back" -Lisa
She's a woman
"Superman flies faster on his stomach"-Lisa
He's a man
:)
"Do fly often? I haven't flown for many years" -Lex
Flies on stomach backwards- Powered Toooooast Man!
so many good interviews! This podcast is the best! Lex "closes his eyes to think" Fridman! Love it
I bought both of Lisa's books and they are incredible! She's phenomenal! This episode completely changed the way I view evolution and how the brain works. Being a neuroscience enthusiast, I follow new research very closely and as Lisa said, most have not updated their theory of how our brain works even with new evidence! That is preposterous! Thank you so much for hosting such an incredible podcast that expands the knowledge of so many! Your interview questions are always so pensive and your optimism about humanity and life is admirable. Keep it up, Lex!
This is one of the most useful podcast I've listened to in a very long time. Thank you Alex. Please bring on Andrew Huberman too, even better have him on along with Lisa.
I try to avoid hyperbole whenever I can, and I've watch some pretty incredible videos on various channels that have changed my constructed paradigm of the universe, but this one flipped my universe on its head. Absolutely incredible and brilliant.
Just read her book, its amazing! Highly reccomended, ordered how emotions are made aswell. Thanks for a great interview Lex
This podcast is so important! Lots of insightful data about human emotions and beliefs. You’re really nailing it Lex! With the
Mission of giving the world important information to reflect
And change their minds ❤
Lately I tend to skip to the guest's view on the meaning of life first, then rewind and listen to the entire conversation - it sort of frames it nicely
interesting idea; I'm going to try that out
-Let me push back on that a little. Don't you think that there's a risk that you become biased against what they are saying if you don't agree with/like their view on life? But that's just a thought, maybe you are very open minded.
@@henrikbergman4055 no, not really to tell you the truth. I'm not particularly open minded, but as an introvert I'm not usually that much "biased" one way or another towards fellow humans whatever they say, for I just keep them at a distance - so to speak. Besides, people's take on "the meaning of it all" is really tangential to the main topics that Lex asks about, so I think I keep the two aspects as separate in terms of any judgment I might have on them. Or maybe I'm just curious to hear their answer. Spin-off idea for a 3' video series: the meaning of life according to remarkable people :-D
@@davidebarranca5370 Hm. Yes, you are right. Don't actually need to be open minded to not be biased.
I'm also introverted and keep people at a distance, but could be that I assume that "the meaning of it all"- question says more about people and their choices than it really does. When Lex has an creationist paleontologist on I might get back to you.
Lex you're killing it lately, you brought the most eye opening people in my life, just wow
"Are you calling Dinosuars dumb?"
"I'm not talking about Dinosaurs honey!" - Lex patronised to death at 32:50. (She good)
understanding and accepting our emotions as humans ... that is the way we can get in flow together as a society, accepting the necessity of providing support and guidance for all
Absolutely blown away. Thank you for bringing her on!!!!!
Truly fantastic interview Lex.
Long term value AND current events relevancy. The segments on free will & on empathy are particularly fantastic.
Fantastic conversation. The selection of amazing guests really makes this podcast the single most thought provoking, mind expanding thing that I know of.
This is a really great example of a smart person rationalising really stupid ideas
Lex is my new go-to podcast. He has great questions, is a skilled listener, and has had some fantastic guests. As someone who read this book years ago (and re-read numerous times), I was stoked to see Lisa on here. Awesome episode Lex. Keep up the high quality work mate!
Listened to this two times in a row, really loved this episode and I have two books to read
Me too
a bright ray of sunshine in these cloudy days. one of my all time favs. thanks Lex!
She’s amazing, isn’t it? 😉
I am a neuroscientist studying consciousness. Love the podcast. A great guest would be Prof Jonathan Schooler at UC Santa Barbara, one of the most forward thinking individuals in our field.
What do you think is the role of consciousness in the machinery of the human brain?
Levels of consciousness guide you in a purposeful life .
Lisa, thank you, I learned so much! Your expertise and dedication to your field is inspiring.
Lex, thank you for providing such amazing content. You’re a thoughtful and attuned interviewer, which makes these podcasts very enjoyable to listen to. You’ve provided me with so much access to education and new ways of thinking, and I’m extremely grateful.
Depression and anxiety is a way of being in the world when things just aren’t right with your predictions
1:58 What are you saying, that they’re saying that I’m not saying correctly? I know what I said..perhaps we all just need to 🤔🤫
1:58 sorry, yes paraphrasing... keep watching 👍
Not correct. Things are in line with your predictions, the problem is that your predictions are built in a self-destructive way. So that your inner model is a bad one, pathological.
@@158-i6z I am not talking of either misprediction nor mal-interpretation. I hope you saw all the video to understand what I am talking about.
@@158-i6z nice to see Eliud kipchoge listens to lex
Very seldom do I listen to a podcast episode twice, but I did just that with this one. There were many brilliant thoughts and insights in this one. Thank you.
1:08:40 Jesus that's generous... I wish I had teachers like her! both in terms of competency and as well as on the human level.
I definitely bought that book when it was first released. I just found this older podcast.
Lex, you think of the best topics and guests. Such a mind deserves great applause. 👏 I had no idea you were super famous, but I definitely see why. Kudos to your continued knowledge sharing and insight into the minds of interesting humans. 💜
Lex, I was surprised that you didn't conceptualise her answers using neural networks metaphors.. Awe-inspiring self restraint!
Oh my gosh Thank you for your conversation… how insightful for me, I am constantly looking for the meaning of my emotions and it troubles me sometimes. Why I have so much anxiety. There is so much to say about it , it seems to me if you are searching fo the nature of consciousness this is one of the top of the line. Much love to you both!!!
1:33:25
Lex: people love it when you look at the camera
Lisa: *looks at camera*
Lex: *cuts to camera Lisa is not looking at*
I hope this is as great as it reads.
LMAO it was.
I noticed this too, with great amusement. It seems she is so beautifully present in the conversation with Lex that she forgets to look away from him, even after he mentioned the camera. Such a delightful conversation!
Lex, I've not seen you struggle so much as I saw in the first hour and a half of this. It looked as if it took a lot of your body budget to get in tune with. Thanks for a wonderful discussion and spending the effort it took.
Hehe it’s just your affective realism 😉
Please bring Lisa back sometime. She knocked it out of the park.
flipping briliant! I can't think of a better thing for people to listen to right now than this conversation.
This is such a beautiful discussion! Thanks so much @Lex 🙏🏽
I’m out of words to describe how brilliant this interview is, THANK YOU BOTH 👏👏👏👏
She would be awesome in an episode of The Midnight Gospel
This lady is awesome. Lex u lucky to have convos like this. Jelly
Last time I was this early, the borders of Skyrim were opened.
Then you walked right into that Imperial ambush. Same as us, and that thief over there.
Lol I saw this while playing Skyrim. Can't believe the 9th anniversary is almost here. Best game ever.
Dense, passionating, an amazing interview with one of our brightest minds.
I always thought the action reaction was inaccurate but Lisa took it to a whole other level.
I take from this that most theories in psychology are about to fall apart. Or at least every model based on action/reaction from ACE to polyvagal stuff.
This can create a whole new path for therapists.
You save the internet Sir. Absolutely fantastic interview.
I wish my university had professors like you guys.
easily will be a top 5 podcast in the world. This is amazing Lex, thank you.
Haha she called Lex honey 😂
ramon plutarque Lex has a crush on her
and "Lexy"
@@Psnymidk, she's 57 and married lol
There were other moments it sounded like she was low key flirting with him but I could be wrong
During which part? I didn't watch the whole interview but I would love to see this :)
I’m late to the party with this interview, but LFB’s work completely transformed how I work with my therapy clients in addition to how I approach my own life. She is one of the most important thinkers of our time.
The best podcast ever. Thank you!
Thank you for doing these Lex!! You have fully and totally sent me down the rabbit hole of A.I, quantum mechanics, Cosmology and the list continues...you have re-ignited my love of learning new things😁 Really and truly thank you, I've so enjoyed watching these and your progression as well!
Thank you so much for this interesting video!
‘Exercise every day and empathize every day’ well done Lex!
Our free will is very limited by:
Genetics
Family upbringings
Intelligence
Physical abilities
Amount of money we have
Environment
Laws and so on
The list is huge. We have a very tiny portion of a free will and should really make good use of it
You have no free will actually, your actions are bound by the laws of physics and within a set amount of time, everything you do is predetermined.
Your level of consciousness determines your ability to react or respond to internal and external stimuli .
PPeople who fail to regard the truth seriously in small matters, cannot be trusted in matters that are great. In 1989 “Albert Einstein:
Very few podcast episodes are worth listening to more than once (if even once). This episode is worth three times listening.
She’s so awesome, great conversation!
In danger of becoming the best podcast on the internet. Please never stop, Lex!
2:16:55
"The meaning of life is to make meaning"
That was also one of my favorite parts of this podcast.
Preordering! My reading list is stacking up fast because of your podcast, Lex. Your content is delightfully stimulating. For me, it's like reading Walden and basking in inspiration, admiration and titillation one line after another. Spasibo! 😊