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In this video, we witnessed a rare and embarrassing incident involving a brand new Airbus A220 (EI-HLA) of ITA Airways, the Italian flag carrier. The A220 was delivered to the airline just four days ago and it was the second day of operations out of London City Airport, a challenging airport with a short runway and steep approach.
However, things did not go as planned for the crew of the A220, as they made a wrong turn while taxiing to the runway, putting them on a taxiway they were not allowed to go on. This caused a delay for the flight and the airport, as the A220 had to be towed back to the apron. We filmed this event from a nearby spot, where we could see the whole situation unfold. Watch the video to see how the A220 got stuck and how it was rescued by the airport staff.
Should point out really felt for the crew as it must have been an embarrassing moment. London City ops did amazing to resolve the issue in a quick manner.
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Filmed on 4th November 2023
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I have made 3 flights now on the A220 and am really impressed by the aircraft inside and out. It is quite beautiful and popular with its crews
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@@alangaming2003 indeed a great aircraft indeed the A220
@@alangaming2003I flew on it once, and am flying it again in a couple months. Really quiet and really nice cabin (Air Canada)
Cool catch, well done filming! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description. Thanks!
Hi, yes no problem.
I'll bet that the ITA pilot is delighted that this proud moment was preserved for posterity!
I sympathize and empathize greatly, so easy to make a wrong turn on the ground, no harm done though, just a little embarrassing
I actually think congrats on avoiding damage. If they'd hit with the wing, THEN that would be something of a different matter altogether...
Recently got to fly on an A220- fantastic plane! Those P&W geared turbofans are smooth, quiet, and powerful! Definitely one of my favorite airframes to fly!
Couldn't agree more!
And, as a bonus, are also very unreliable
@@pjotrtje0NL Only engines affected are used in manufacturing between Q4 2015 and and Q3 2021 that could cause cracking in the stage 1 and stage 2 disks in the high pressure turbine.
It's a Brilliant aircraft.
yes shame not Rolls Royce engines
This is such a beautiful aircraft, love the ITA livery. We all make mistakes, no damage was done!
I love ITA airways, fantastic service on board , I flew from Rome to New York months ago
Stunning aircraft in a lovely livery ❤
What a gorgeous plane.
Excellent that you were there to catch this incident. Nicely done.
This reminds me of Heathrow back in the day when a new entry near the threshold of 27R was first opened. As we taxied out we noticed a lot of activity….coaches, marshallers etc… around 2 aircraft near this new threshold. An Airways 757 on the new entry , had a neat “tick” shaped gash in its rudder made by (possibly) an A330 wing tip as it taxied by !!! I recall the new entry was permanently closed for A/C after that.
Yeah, most of Heathrow was built to allow B707s, VC10s and DC-8s to taxi past each other on parallel taxiways without clipping each other. Then some smarty-pants built the Jumbo and the taxiways became a jigsaw puzzle of "if you're a narrow body, yes you can" versus "if you're a wide-body, no you can't". What a zoo that was. When they got rid of the cross-ways runway (23L, I believe) that eased things a bit but LHR Ground Control's job was never the same after the B747....
Beautiful aircraft, and touchdown couldn't have been better especially given the conditions.
Not a plane spotter, just came up on my feed. But I really loved watching this, it was fascinating to watch and she really is a beautiful plane , loved her lines as she flew into the cloudy sky.
A220 Canadian designed and produced by Bombardier(origin designer) and now sold to Airbus. This one left Montreal (Bombardier) CYMX airport
I need to be that one guy who at least tries to sympathize with the pilots here. It’s true they made an embarassing mistake, but these things do happen on a daily basis in this industry and any pilot can make such an error. Especially when not proficient at all on a new airport and with very few flight hours on a new aircraft, taxi mishaps are likely to happen. I feel like people are judging these guys a bit too much recently.
Hey @CyberHornet totally agree, watching them on the day my heart really felt for them. It was an honest mistake for the crew, I’m sure they won’t do that again.
It literally almost never happens. The last time, years ago, was a BA 747 that hit a building. The taxi charts are quite easy to read and understand, even for a PPL like me. Look up EGLC AD 2.20, 2 Ground movement, item J.
@@pjotrtje0NLif you were on the job you’d know very well that taxi mishaps are very frequent instead, had seen several myself in my career so far. And of course I’m not referring to LCY only but I mean it in a worldwide context.
Flown over the years Swiss bae146 into LCY out on an B.A. Embraer and into LHR on an AirBaltic A220 (on secondment to Swiss) The A220 is a lovely aircraft.Those days are over,so its back to economy to Sydney and that is aways A380.
@CyberHornet I totally agree with you. This was an honest mistake, and the ATC did a fantastic job working with them. I feel that if you don't visit that airport very often, taxi mishaps are going to happen. Nobody is PERFECT but you do learn what to do next time so it WILL NOT happen again. The building was not damaged and the pilots took off in GRACE. 😊
Unique moment! May I feature this taxiing mishap in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. All the best to you!
Yes of course, please credit the channel :)
So fun to see 3 Minutes of Aviation on here too! I shall look forward to seeing this on one of your videos.
Nice! They _did_ see you, at 3:50 the FO waved to you 😊
Wow. The front end look of a Caravelle and the howl of a Vulcan. Lovely.
Indeed! It has Caravelle front!🫶
Did you know the Caravelle front cockpit, was licensed from the Comet……..just saying…
@@charliechristmas5147 Comet-Caravelle.. I was gonna say the same thing!
@@effyleven great minds and all that….cheers
Such a beautiful aircraft.Great video
Very interesting incident and nice commentary from you 😊. I’m glad that this new aircraft hasn’t been damaged.
Fantastic Lewis thank you. Thank you also for the diagrams and the very clear explanation. Interesting and entertaining stuff !!!
Very welcome
WOW thanks so much for catching this rare event mate! Never seen something like this ever at LCY, the crew onboard the ITA were lucky they were stopped by ATC before they might of damaged the brand new wing! Hope something like this never happens again 🤞
Glad you enjoyed it
"might *of*" - sheesh.
@@steveharleyfan it bothers me when people you *then* instead *than*
Elegant looking aircraft, especially in that livery!
Had a similar problem myself with an articulated truck. Though it was getting dark there was NO exit sign and I took the road around the outside of the buildings instead of the narrow road between them. Ended up having to creep over railway lines in a siding and climup theloadingramp. Good job there wasn't a train in. It was embarrassing but no harm done.
Important catch! Good job brother 👏
As you so rightly said, a Wonderful bit of kit the 220!! Air France, Swiss, and even Air Baltic happily working with them, I’ll be surprised if British Airways ever go for any, damn shame, but would look fantastic in BA livery
Not to mention Delta with a whopping 61 units
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Sadly I can see Cityflyer ordering the EMB 190 E2 and 195 E2.
As does Air Canada with 33 units of the CS300 aka A220-300 and another 27 on order .. Canadian technology at it's best!
Bel video... complimenti.😉👍🇮🇹
Awesome Video Awesome Airbus A220 i love hearing the sound of those engines.🙂
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Such a beautiful livery! Love it also on the A350 that make it to the West Coast of the US. Cheers!
So beautiful to see. I miss the Alitalia Embraers of course but times change…
Good catch, good filming! Would you mind me featuring this in my daily Aviation series? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description. Thank!
That engine sound is amazing very unique
Hi there!
I just watched your video, and that catch was absolutely epic! I was wondering if it would be alright to feature it in my next video. Of course, I'll credit your channel in the description and include a link to the original video.
Let me know if that works for you. Thanks a lot😊😊
The A220 was designed by Bombardier in Canada and the design was sold to Air Bus.
Many thanks. Good job it didn't over shoot in to the Dock as you would have missed it.
Nice one. ✈️😍
Very nice video hello 🙋🏻♀️💯☕💯👍 7:22
Made in belfast wing nearly clipped 😲. Graet video 👍✈️
I believe it was built in Canada it’s registered to a lease company in Ireland hence the EI reg 👍
The wings are made in Belfast & some of the centre fuselages. Then sent to Montreal or mobile in Alabama to be assembled . Factory was owned by Bombardier but sold to spirit aerosystems 3 years ago. I work in the wing production unit
right, so the 'plane' isn't built in Belfast then@@richardiangraham5743
Lovely looking plane! Pretty understandable to make such a mistake especially given that it was only the airline's second day of operations there.
Registered in / (financed in Ireland). I do hope the Italian airline industry does not fail again😟.
It's because registering here in Italy there's more taxes, like everything
Wow that's so unusual; an aircraft registered in Ireland. What will they think of next?
I'm flying on an A-220 this coming Monday from MSY to TUL!
That 18 second take off at full chaff was great to see, must be a hair-raiser for the passengers! Cheers chaps.
It’s a great take off out of City! Especially off 27 over the docks!
I live towards the eastern end of the LCY runway on the southside of the river....which is the start of the takeoff roll for most flights. You can barely hear these unlike the Embraer BA/Lufthansa/KLM use. Although they do a make a weird, almost whale song like, sound at certain power settings! Lovely colour scheme too.
Back in the '80s, I was up on the viewing deck at Gatwick when a Korean 747 took an incorrect turn and ended up in what was then the Pier 1 cul-de-sac adjacent to the South Terminal where all the Dash-8s and 146s used to park. It was a real problem because there wasn't quite enough room to get a big enough tug past it to hitch up and push it back on to the proper taxyway. The ground staff had to move all sorts of baggage carts and tractors etc. out of the way to finally get the big Douglas tug past the 747.
Awesome shot! Can I feature it? Credited on screen and with a link back!
We're all human. No damage, no harm. Hopefully no-one gets in bother over this.
Oops, oh well, we all have problems getting out of car parks….. sometimes 😎. Yes, a good looking aircraft, I can’t get used to anything Italian being blue though , after Ferraris, Spaghetti, Chianti …red is the colour of (Italian) enjoyment after all.
Nice video! If the aircraft was flying to Italy they would have been able to make up for the delay.
I heard the reason for this incident is pilots distracted by camera man, filming the aircraft lol, great video and a rare capture lewis 👍👍
Don’t say that they will be after me 😉
What a beautiful lady, isn't she ❤?
Amzing Catch Bro! can i use it as part of my video for a series? you will be credited in the video and description ❤
Would there have been any follow up i.e. investigation / report into this? Or not, because there was no damage or injury to anyone?
I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of the new Qantas A220's here in Australia. I believe the first one is ready for delivery and the livery looks great. They will be replacing the aging 717 fleet.
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@@alangaming2003 C series ?????.please explain your correction.
@@robertgarland9342 He's still obsessed with the fact that the A220 started life as the Bombardier C-series before Boeing started playing dirty pool and the whole project was sold to Airbus for a dollar.
love spotting @ LCY, although I have not been for a number of years due to living in Gloucestershire. When is the best time of day to visit these days?
Wooly noises! 😂 Ive never heard that before, l love it
“Wookie”?
The A220 is the best looking civilian airliner in production now, sleek lines and everything in perfect proportion, far more aesthetically pleasing than the 787 or A350
I've only flown Baltic Air A220, the seats were like ironing boards, a very uncomfortable passenger experience.
I know that's the airline rather than the aircraft's fault, but it really puts me off of flying on that model.
I think its a stupid place to have a baggage hall, it should out of the way and not amongst the aircraft stand. LCY pull your finger out and get it sorted.
Yesterday it was parked at stand 10.
When it left for take off it did not use the runway. It drove past all stands as the embraers do including that spot where it got stuck.
Is that something new?
BTW, as of last year, the A220 was still losing money. It is technically not an Airbus aircraft, but rather an Airbus Canada LP aircraft, and Airbus Canada LP is 75% owned by Airbus and 25% owned by the Québec government who helped save the programme by investing equity in it. Hopefully the 2023 results will show production has increased to make it profitable. (the goal of QC government is to make value of programme more than double in order to get back the moeny it invested by selling shares to Airbus (who would then own 100%). To save programme, the QC government arranged for CSALP (now Airbus Canada LP) to double number of shares and donated 50% to Airbus for free. This effectively halves the value of the few billiosn Québec had invested in it. Airbus and Québec then bought the shares that bankrupted Bombardier still had in CSALP as it was unable to invest to complete the programme and that bought onwership to 75/25. Prior to Airbus being donated 50% of project. Québec owned 40% of it. So the goal is to make the 25% they now have worth as much as the 40% they invested in.
No wonder Bombardier is taking over
Originally a Bombardier Canada CSeries 100 aircraft, re-branded by Airbus.
Bombardier Commercial Aviation no longer exists. Original DeHavilland products as well as Canadair water bombers sold to what is now DeHavilland Canada (who restarted production of Twin Otter, and inherited the Dash-8 but without a hangar to build them).
CRJ product line finished production and the IP and maintenance contracts sold to Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.
The C-Series was spun off into separate company called CSALP (C-Series Aircraft Limited Partrnership) with the Québec Government injecting a few billions and gettng 40% stake in company. CSALP then doubled number of shares and donated 50% to Airbus (reducing BBD's ownership from 60 to 30% and Québec from 40 to 20%) Then Bombardier sold its 30% stake to Airbus and Québec resuting in Airbus owning 75% and Québec owning 25%. But Airbus only paid for 25% of project, and CSALP, when created, didn't inherit all the debts for the development of aircraft which remain at Bombardier and every liquidation sale proceeds went directly to creditors.
Bombardier Transportation no longer exists. (sold to Alstom)
Bombardier Recreational Products spun off into totally separate company in early 2000s as a means to recapitalise Bombardier Commercial aviation.
Bombardier Aerostructures no longer exists. (sold to Spirit).
Bombardier Business Jets is the only part that remains, mostly because nobody wanted to buy it during Bombardier's liquidation.
@@alangaming2003
Well without Airbus there would be no A220, so to say it isn't an Airbus aircraft is disingenuous and rather arrogant.
Financially, it was the Québec government that saved the C-Series since Airbus got half of the project for free without investing money. The first tranche of actual money it invested did not recapitalize CSALP, but it rather purchased Bombardier's shares in CSALP. (that is when Airbus went from 50% ownership to 75%). Airbus did inject capital to build the Alabama plant, and then, along with QUébec, injected to industrlalize production to get production rates up to make prject profitable. (at that point, C-Series were produced as pilot project tooling). Forgeting that plant in Alabama. the amount of new money that Airbus injected could have easily been handled by Québec had there been a political will to do so.
However, opposition parties at federal level were anti Québec and called for Bombardier to be allowed to go bankrupt instead of getting federal help. And that really hurt Bombardier's image because airlines lacked confidence Bombardier would survive. This is where gifting project to Airbus really helped.
Airbus did not develop the aircraft. But definitely helped with its image and marketing and going forwards it is rightfully an Airbus product. But it would still have been possible to save Bombardier if it had been willing to kill its Global 7500 project that sucked up as much money as C-Series. Bombardier was developping 3 planes at same time (Lear 85 and Gobal 7500 as business jets) and the business jets are what killed the company. BBD cancelled the Lear 85 too late and didn't cancel the 7500, and ironically the Global 7500 survived along with the old Challenger) as the sole remaining products under the Bombardier trademark as everything else was liquidated. @@abdul-hadidadkhah1459
how are you listyening to atc?
Love the ITA in the New A220 Lewis buddy. Never seen one before. The only incident heard is hold position between ATC and the plane. Thanks so much for that. See you soon. ❤
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nice video
i really like the rocket takeoff
Just to think, that's where the closing sniper section of Full Metal Jacket was filmed.
I'd love to listen to the announcement the Capt did to the passengers to explain the situation...
Ladia and Gentlemena we waita here for taxiwaya to be widened.
Ladies and Gentlement, a building suddently popped up in the way and we need to go backwards to avoid it.
@@jfmezei 😅😅😅
Just been running and saw it this eve.
Miss riding on a plane ,I’ve travelled 6times in a year before
Only in Britain will they put a departure lounge where it blocks the passage of aircraft. Diverting taxiing aircraft onto 09-27 makes it unavailable for arrival/departure of other aircraft.
Hi @uberseehandel the building is a service building which is used for baggage handling services. The building has been there for years and was perfectly fine as the time of building the width of the aircraft was fine, however as airliners evolve they have become wider for fuel efficiency and aerodynamic. I’m sure in the future they will look into possibly relocating this but considering 97% of the planes can pass by it with no problem I don’t think it as major priority for them.
It’s not just the building. the whole taxiway West of Delta is too narrow for anything larger than an E190. was the case before the building was built on stands 1 and 2
Making the best use of the site which is an old dock.
That’s the most important point, very poor planning by the airport
Love Alitalia livery . Is not called Alitalia now and just ITA? Does anyone know why they EI- registrations ? Irish?
Yes, exactly, Alitalia before, and Ita now, had registrated its aircraft in Ireland.
Aircraft are leased via an Irish aircraft leasing company, thus the Irish registration
Ah right guess must be for tax reasons lol
Why? What happened?
Took a wrong turning nearly clipped a airport building and had to be pushed back into the correct position
Bit of a strange place to put that building tbh, especially as A220 and E2s are the future of LCY just hope LCY gets back to pre-pandemic status soon.
Not just the building. Even if it wasn’t there the taxiway west of delta is too narrow
@@RCRVids Just make it bigger then when building not there, as I’m sure seen Swiss A220 west of it.
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@@jamesbartlett5640im pretty sure it the c series
@@alangaming2003 It was the C-series till Airbus got it and now it’s A220-100 and A220-300, with the 100 LCY certified.
“ Beef or Chicken ? “ ……. “ Dammit ! “
Cut these poor pilots some slack guys, it's only the second day of operations in LCY with the much bigger A220... mistakes happen, pilots are only humans, they are not demi-gods.
On a side note, I just love the whale cries those engines make on spool-up...fabulous!
Totally, really felt for them at the end, they said sorry on the radio. As you said these things happen. We love the Wookie noise of the P&W1000, it’s a favourite here on the channel
You got the name for the plane it the C series
Aww, the FO waved at you at 3:50.
Conversation without coffee with the fleet chief pilot, unless of course it was the chief pilot.
Little mistake for this beautiful aircraft..
The landing at CTY is notoriously rough
Great aircraft but is it too big for the airport
No flare?
Just to correct you. ITA only has one A220-100. As you said the delivery was rushed. They did not get a chance to learn the LCY configuration. The first flight did not even have a water salute. And why has not LCY sorted the taxying issues? These things should not be happening and taxying on the runway is not safe, we never know. Hope all parties learn from this. Scarry.. The blue colour is stunning though.
Using the runway is standard procedure here at LCY due to width restrictions with that building it only affects the A220 and E2 as they have a wider wingspan. Traffic control do an amazing job ensuring the timings are stop on to allow such a manoeuvre.
You say it's not safe but they did runway backtracks for years and years entirely safely. Why isn't it safe now?
You mean the CS100
@@Gordanovich02 well accident may happen as we know. I have seen many go rounds for that same reason. Planes taking their precious times taxying... Time for LCY to sort this out. Can't they just cement a lil bit of that grass? Or is it too much asking?
Well resolved.
Can see the APU starting at 7:47
Looks like a baby b787 but is neither a Boeing nor an Airbus.
Don’t feel for the crew, this is very very poor airmanship. They haven’t read and taken in their taxi briefings, that’s both pilots, and on top of that, they have mistaken the taxi clearance, probably read it back correctly, but just failed to execute. Again this is both pilots and that could easily have resulted in wing damage and grounding of the aircraft. I’m speechless at how bad this is.
I took a wrong turning once on spaghetti junction (in my car) in the late sixties, i backed up a few yards where i maybe shouldn’t have, i dont think any one noticed though fortunately😊.
There's no way I'd work that close to those engines
loL@@justcurious1157
Just wondering if an A220 is capable of doing a powerback. Most narrow body jets can but you might get FOD damage doing it.
I am not surprised.......
Great catch !
Lots of paperwork for ITA pilots
that was one hell of a landing 💀💀💀
When you make a landing in a difficult airport 😎
When you almost collide with a baggage building 😭
Nice video
I remember the battle when this disgusting airport was opened. "We will never fly jets from this airport" they said.
Ouch that landing
i have never understood why they havnt filled in the dock and make more room, and maybe another runway to.
Curious of ATC gave ITA instructions on what route to take to get to end of runway and then realized their mistake. But rewinding your video, the plane came to a stop with the left engine well past the start of building and I have to wonder if the wings did pass without touching wall, but with such low clearance that ATC told plane to stop. If only you were taller, we might see if the nosewheel was right on the taxiing line. The image seems to point to nose wheekl being right next to grass and IF that is the case, it means pilots already knew this was a dubious passage. But if they were on the taxiing line, I wonder why thry couldn't have just done a 90° in-situ turn to head for runway right away instead of needing a pashback. Wingtips must have been too close.
Oh dear, don't these A220 have the EFB installed as well which should of clearly marked out there taxi path, also to note when the tug pushed him back no anti-collision light on as well, seems there pilots are a bit haphazard in the rules and regs.
That red light, also called beacon light, is switched on when the engines are being started and switched off after the engines have been shut down. Since you cannot tow or push back an aircraft that is powered the engines had to be shut down and that's why the beacon was turned off during the procedure.
@@efoneofour Not quite true my friend, aviation law, any plane when moving either by tug or on it's own engines is required to have the red anti collision lights on.
@@Dreamweaver787 Anti-collision lights, also called beacon lights, are required on the ground by law only when the engines are running. When towing an aircraft navigation lights (red on the left wing tip and green on the right wing tip) are recommended at night whenever possible, but not mandatory. As for the anti-collision lights, when the aircraft is on the ground they must be switched on when the engines are started to alert the ground crew that the engines are running, wether the aircraft is moving or not.
@@efoneofour still disagree, any movement, engines off or on Anti collision light on, it's avaiton law my friend.
they are still better A220 pilots than you@@Dreamweaver787
Poor things. So embarassing. but at least they stopped before hitting the building. love love LOVE that wookie sound
"Poor things" ? It's always surprising to see how Brits overlook are are disrespectful to people !
Is that ground handler too close to the engine?
No, so long as he doesn’t go beyond the door, the ground handler is safe. And the pilots don’t advance the engine thrust beyond idle of course. Between the engine and forward door there’s an “ingestion zone” that all of us ground crews are drilled extensively to avoid.
It’s difficult to describe. We’re taught extensively on where to walk and when. All across the airfield/apron there are numerous painted zones that tell us where to walk safely. Hope that helps!
ITA (Italia Trasporto Aereo) is pronounced correctly ‘ee-tah’.
Good luck on getting Anglos to pronounce Italian words (any foreign word, for that matter) correctly.
@@roger0929
You’re right, and in the case of our American friends, the issue is compounded by pronouncing ‘t’s as ‘d’s so we end up with the grotesque ‘Idaly’, have an airline called ‘iddah’ (or ‘I D A’), and where they eat ‘gelado’ apparently.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 *LONDON* Planespotting caption at 6:23, "WE WAS UNAWARE" ( try ... "we were") 😉
@@sleepyhollow01
It’s inconsistent; on the first occasion (0:03) ITA is clearly mispronounced as ‘itta’ rather than ‘ee-tah’ (with very anglicised vowels as well if we want to be super-picky).
Bet they're billed big!
They received this plane on the first of November and flew it the 3rd to LCY without trialling steep approach, landing, taxiying and parking first. No surprise these incidents happen.
I have to correct you here. Pilots do have to be certified for LCY operations with some simulator hours. It might not be enough sometimes but it’s not nothing.
Why would they need additional training for this specific airframe? What is special about it that would be different from all of the other aircraft they have flown to London City?
First of all because most of them haven’t flown to London City, ever. ITA has never had any Embraer to fly to London City (They had a deal with German Airways to cover that route), Alitalia CityLiner used to but many of their pilots haven’t come back to ITA, so the company trains all the captains on the LCY approach, once a year. Then, London City is special because not only the runway is really short but the ILS approach path is also very steep (5.5 degrees). That creates some specific procedures and requirements for different aircraft, like the 220-100 which barely meets the speed and dimension requirements to be able to land there (the A220-300 can’t for example). It has a specific steep approach mode that needs to be taught, trained and checked.