13:07 That motif you are thinking of does not have an official name, but the community has taken to calling the "Photon of Fluctuation" motif because it is the first song that it appears in. Every region has a variation of this motif in one of their battle themes, and it's also present in other songs.
You can say that this motif is the identity of the game, though I'm not a fan of it. But adding vocals to this motif makes it feel so much different and I love it.
@@YOLO-12455 you can definitely say that. Photon of Fluctuation is a fancy way of saying Light of Change, and the Traveler has always been glowing in golden light during important cutscenes in the game.
its truly amazing how hoyomix just outdoes every year. The culture they represent through their music is always breathtaking. It crazy how much work they put in for music in a video game.
And you know they did it right when they have natives from those regions of inspiration who react with “That’s my culture! That’s what I grew up with!”
I think the Cradle of Humanity aspect is why the African aspects of the pieces seem to form their core. The thing with Natlan is that it is comprised of several different tribes, each being based in a different part of the world (most of them being from the Ring of Fire), and so I'm expecting different pieces of music to lean more heavily on specific cultures. We'll be able to hear the first patch's worth of music within a week (three tribes) with more tribes and their areas/music being introduced in later patches.
@@effortlessfury That’s actually genius, having the different tribes of Natlan bring different “cradle” cultures from different parts of the world, with Africa at the center. And we are only getting into the first portion of the country. We know we have African and South American influences. I thought I heard Aboriginal Australia would be an influence in Natlan as well. Whichever the case, I’m looking forward to more music from the Natlan region!
I find actually very heart-warming to see people feeling genuinely represented by Natlan's OST. I think that representation can come in many ways... Genshin has this unique fantasy world that mixes various cultures and seeing part of this on its soundtrack is way more than skin color. I mean, I would love to see more dark skinned characters as well, but this is straight up a good job from the devs. Hard to think back in the day that a chinese game would pay homage to african culture in such a respectful way.
it's easier for a lot of people to connect with characters visually so they're rightfully upset with the designs but it's just not fair or true to say genshin's doing a bad job with cultural representation. it's a bigger problem with anime as a genre that i think we should recognize when something is done well, and encourage that as the standard, but there is absolutely no nuance in online discourse when people are just trying to shut down a discussion by winning the moral high ground in 280 characters
@@katm5458 I... kinda don't think its easier necessarily? Idk. There's this anime called Girls Band Cry. The protagonist is a young japanese girl and I felt imediately connected to her, not because of her appearence. In fact, I'm a brazillian black man (lol). I legit started crying so much a certain moment on episode 2 because her situation was so relatable to mine, her fear, anxiety, personality, all of that. It didn't matter for me the fact that she was so different from me visually. I just felt that "yeah... this girl went through some suffocating situations". For me, the great part of fiction, is that you can connect, robots, animals, aliens, and various types of characters because they are going through things that you can understand and connect. Not saying that it wouldn't be absolutely AWESOME to have more variety on skin color in the game, but I think for me is more about "that would be sooo cool" more than "now I feel represented", you know?
@@HousekiMitai i agree that it's easier to connect with a character emotionally through their story from a single person's point of view. i meant to say that the way genshin presents its content makes it more likely for a good portion of players to connect with characters' visual designs over other factors, mainly because it's more accessible - a 1.5 minute demo featuring some voicelines that capture their personality, and a self contained story quest, which.. as well as the lore of teyvat is written, i feel like there's a disconnect with what is actually incorporated and delivered in character quests and event quests. maybe that's intentional. it's probably easier for a pg13 gacha game to budget and sell characters this way. anyways, not to say that it's right or wrong but i think that's why some players are reacting the way that they are. most people don't want to read the lore, and most people don't have the musical knowledge to appreciate the research and collaboration with international musicians that goes into crafting the soundtrack (me, that's why i'm here). most people play the archon quest, skip through the main world quests, login for abyss refresh even, and wait to pull on characters that look cool to them.
@@katm5458 Sorry for the long reply, but I reallt felt like leaving a comment here too about what you said! It's the first time I see someone actually mention how this entire thing regarding representation is, in fact, a lot more complicated than either side want it to be. For context, I'm from Brazil, and white in our BR context. On one side, I think Hoyoverse lacks diversity in the cast, and it can and should visually represent the people from the cultures they are borrowing from and how they actually look like; they don't do that and we all know the reasons why ("characters of color wont sell", biases from both the company and the players, etc). On the other hand however, I ALSO think the representation they do in the music and lore references is actually pretty awesome, and more than often unlike in any other big game we see going on. Like, I know it may be strange but they can be both right and wrong at the same time. I wish we could talk about these with more nuance more often, without the entire dismissing of the game, cause I learned a lot through Genshin and I think that's so valid, even when they make mistakes! Or like, without ppl saying that "skin color doesnt matter and doesnt represent culture"; saying something like that is naive at best and disingenuous/convenient at worst. So yeah TL;DR is that It's not that simple on either side imo..
@@CelticBotansDigitalArt I do think people tend to oversimplify those topics. It always ends with people calling each other r*cist, trying to demonize them. They simply wont take into consideration what the other said (well, thats the internet lol). But in my opinion: Diversity and representation can come in many ways, not necessarily the color of a character. When it comes to Genshin, while I'd love to see more characters with different skin colors and I'm consistently sad that Dehya isn't a good character to play with, we can't say that they are not representing other cultures in various other ways. Heck, I fell in love with South Asian culture and music thanks to Sumeru. That whole "drama" with Natlan not having more character of color was a bit too exaggerated, in my opinion. Again, it would be very cool, but people were missing the point, directing their hate towards things that didn't make any sense when it should simply be "I'm pissed because I was expecting to be different" and it would be totally fine. But some arguments I read were absurd and outright nonsensical. TL;DR: More characters of color would be awesome? Hell yeah! Does it mean that they are disrespecting other cultures by not having those characters? Nah.
the feeling of the first song you described is same for me, and I read people said same things too, "That son make me feel patriotic for fictional nation" is the fun description. But yes it absolutely fantastic that it can evoke such complex feeling and delivered nicely to the listeners.
I also teared up when I saw the samponia so you're not alone. I wanted to cry joy, then figuring out why, it's my roots finally hitting the big screen.
@@IPromiseTomorrow I'm Chinese American and when I heard Yunjin perform Chinese opera I teared up myself. It's incredible how our roots resonate with each of us.
I'm not even from the regions Natlan was inspired by (I'm from Southeast Asia), but I can still feel the pride in the music and boy did that give me goosebumps.
definitely on purpose, this is a region in a war with the abyss that claims to be on the verge of its downfall so of course it will have an anthem and have patriotism!!! makes it feel so different and more intense then all other regions, like if inazuma was actually good
Natlan is inspired by all of the areas that are in The Ring pf Fire, so i am almost certain that there will be songs that lean into other cultures, these are just two songs
@@Executive14 I don’t get why people get the idea its based on the ring of fire. Japan, Southeast Asia, and Northeastern russia are the ring of fire. Meanwhile places like Africa, Australia, the antilles, and Brazil are like the Last thing from being part of the ring of fire. It’s too inconsistent to be the ring of fire.
I'm sure there will be more South American motifs in the game! There are 6 different tribes in Natlan, so far only 3 have been shown to us. I definitely heard Hawaiian motifs or something similar in the music of the People of the Springs :) And the Canopy(?) people are based on Maya, they will have their own music, perhaps with the inclusion of music from Mexico, Salvador... I am sure that Colombia will sound like the basis for one of the tribes :) The two songs presented are the main theme of Natlan and the first battle theme, so there are many more great musical discoveries waiting for us! I'm looking forward to it! I'm sorry if there are mistakes in the text, I'm from Russia and I use a translator :")
Natlan features six tribes and I think they are inspired from cultures from South America, Central Africa, Oceania (Polynesia/Hawaii), and/or Southeast Asia. PS: I am looking forward to Snezhnaya region music with Russian and Slavic inspirations.
me encanta saber que tu también notaste el cuatro, porque como venezolana fue uno de los primeros sonidos que me MEGA resaltaron de inmediato, y cuando lo vi en el video casi grité si creo que en la segunda canción era el cuatro, por cierto, pues lo ves junto a una harpa tocando en los tonos del harpa llanera :'))
Natlan's main theme, in contrast to other nation's main themes, felt more like a national anthem and I simply love it. Also, si quieres escuchar la influencia latina en Natlan, te recomiendo que busques el tema de batalla 3, está en YT pero no sé si seas capaz de hacer una vídeo reacción porque técnicamente no ha salido pero ha sido utilizada en material promocional así que... ahí lo dejo.
La primera vez que escuche el live symphony de Natlan me sorprendí cuando vi que usaban la quena y la zampoña y me sentí un poco feliz se podría decir, ya que yo soy de Perú y hasta recuerdo que aprendí a tocar la zampoña en el colegio. La segunda canción que escuchaste es una de las tres músicas de combate que tiene Natlan. Si tienes la oportunidad deberías escucharlos, las otras dos que te faltan son el "Natlan battle theme 2" and "Natlan battle theme 3". Saludos.
Just adding that uploading leaked content is quite dangerous, it's a good way to get a DMCA. If he want to make a video about them, he should wait until next Wednesday.
You are wearing a Natlan vision in your shirt jaja Natlan itself has a lot of Aztec inspiration too. Yo también soy Colombiano y estos temas me ponen emocional también, son bien hermosos.
There are 6 tribes in Natlan and possibly the missing 7th tribe could be included somehow later in the story. We've seen 3 tribes introduced so far, the water tribe (Hawaii/Maori), Mountain tribe (Inca?), and jungle tribe (Brasil?). the other 4 could be the aborigin, malay, colombia/Caribbean, and Mexica the ancient civilization of Natlan might be the one inspired by Africa, each region had one after all... like Remulia (Roman) for Fontaine, Enkanomiya (Mycanean) for Inazuma, and Deshret (Egypt/Mesopotamia) for Sumeru.
The water tribe seems to be inspired by hawaii but also resort tiki culture, the canopy one seems more based on the maya if kinich’s name is to be attributed to anything. Though then again if I’m not mistaken on the leaks, the tribe leader seems to be called wayna which is a quechua name with nothing to do with the maya nor with any of the present verdure backgrounds or clothing aesthetic as the canopy. As for the earth tribe it seems based on the pueblo/southwest US culture with the canyon and scenic architecture in the mountains? Again though the clothing choices seem like what you could buy from a tourist-savvy destination place with the over expensive faux pas shirts and clothes. The choice to make culture out of something as urban as breakdancing is also a little bit odd but alright… After all how do we logically assume the music for breakdancing appears? Is it different? And if it is why is the music in-game in the tribe itself straight up just hip hop? Are there now drum machines in natlan? Why only natlan then, and how would drum machines or music players be powered? It leaves a lot of questions like that because nothing thus far in teyvat has been that modern for sure. I think it’s sort of a weak point with natlan. It seems like hoyo just fused a number of very random aesthetic choices for each individual tribe based on feel and called it a day. It’s like if I dumped korean culture in liyue because it “feels asiatic”, with as much sense as that makes lmao. With the sort of questions, before those were easy to circumvent but this time it being so loud and present makes the immersion a loot easier to question for sure.
Hello I love your videos!!! The instrument in min 14:18 I think it’s a Charango like a little guitar. I’m from Peru and I’m tearing up hearing instruments from South American countries in the game that I love so much .
Thank you for the nice comment! I do know the Charango, I'd say it's not one since it generally has 5 pairs of strings (10) and this one only has 4. Also generally you can see the armadillo's armor on the back of the instrument. Let's keep tearing up with the great music of this game ❤️🔥
Finally someone who recognizes the andean instruments! I'm not south american but still latin american and I really enjoy music with all these traditional instruments so I was very happy when I saw them being used here!, They sound so so beautiful. I was thinking it would have been GREAT to have a song with south american/north american native language or at least some words if full composed lyrics were not possible, because I understand it's hard compared to swahili which is still used nowadays. So I wondered why they didn't include more south american elements and i came to this conclusion: For the main themes at least I understand they can't include so many languages and instuments, so maybe they chose the most unique "elements" from each culture for the songs. Many people say that the first song "Natlan" reminds them of the lion king muscal because of the vocals, like the African singing style is very unique and powerful, while south american traditional instuments have beautiful warm sounds that make you feel closer to nature, like the wind instruments remind us of birds. These instuments also convey deep emotions and I think they do it in a very unique way, like all organic instuments do so but south american instruments are specially good at that in my opinion. So yeah, maybe that's why. I think in one of the new character trailers I heard aztec-like music, mainly percussion. I can't wait to know more about this new GI update so I can see and hear more and I hope they included more south american elements too!
The soundtrack as a whole is more diverse. I listened to other tracks and some of them are pure latin rhythms. When it's officially out, you should definitely check it out.
soy de Colombia y como dices, no se ma da una centimiento de alegria y de orguyo, se me erisa la piel, cada ves que puedo la buelvo a escuchar y no me canso, la primera es el tema principal de la nacion y la segunda es el tema de batalla
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO REACT TO THIS JHULIAN!!! Also what you said about an ancient legacy being passed on, you're spot on regarding what we know about the plot for this region! Always a joy to see your reaction :)
Yo soy venezolana/colombiana y la verdad también adoré esto, reconocí varios instrumentos que son típicamente de países sudaméricos y me encnata como combinan tan perfectamente con instumentos que son típicos de Sur África, algo que me emociona porque me recuerda mucho a las musicas folklóricas de mi país, que al ser caribeño, tiene muchísima influencia africana, como el tambor, por ejemplo.
There are some songs that are more south american inspired, however since they could only show 2 songs in the livestream they chose the main songs (Battle ost 1 and Natlan) an example of 2 songs that are more south american would be the Battle ost 2 and 3 (however this is in leak territory and Its not officially released yet)
so nice to hear your opinion at adaptation of yourown music tradition to genshin. i do wonder how will i feel when they do snyezhnaya (yeah i, m sure they will mix us Slavic up and probably ad Scandinavians to the bucket ;))
the two channel i couldn't wait to watch were from you and Samizard. your reaction did not disappoint! i agree that i think the two pieces Hoyo presented as of now very heavy in African sounding despite having indigenous instruments from South America, i think it's just the general theme for Natlan. BUT! we do have six tribes in Natlan. one of them seems to be based on Asia Pacific (Mualani's tribe) so perhaps we will actually get a music with a tribe that is very South American next time.
What I can tell you as a Brazilian is that there's something very familiar about these songs to me, but Brazilian music has strong roots in African, Native American, and European music in an equal measures, so it's not weird that the sounds of these songs feel familiar to me.
About the second song of the show, you're not wrong in recognizing it from Genshin: that's the same motiv as a song, called "photon of fluctuation" which appears in all regions. They basically took that song ad made a Natlan version of it.
Natlan does indeed have South American sounds, the ost was leaked so I heard a couple but decided to wait until the game is released to hear the rest, but they chose to perform these songs for the special program, my guess is because they will take center stage in the main story quest. They might release performances for the other songs later just like they did with Sumeru and Fontaine, would be interesting if they also included some dancers because you can't have that type of music without someone dancing to it xd
@@5yenwishes590 imagine the first somg is played at the climax of the hame when the tournament is won or natlan is somehow saved from the abyss incursion.
The focus on south america is just tied to quenas and zampoñas musically. I would mention ocarinas too but those are also originally from mesoamerica and used there.
@Someone45356 I feel part of the reason is practical...that since the symphony was filmed in London it's probably easier to source musicians who are good with African instruments. If they did the filming somewhere in the US they will probably feature songs that used more Latin instruments.
@@findingaether Is this a reply to a wrong comment thread? But well that’s true that the US would be better for sourcing hispanoamerican instruments, though what would be the difference at that point than just getting the lima or mexico city, etc philharmonic. I wouldn’t be saying anything if hoyo did the whole OST with london alone, but clearly for liyue and inazuma it seems to have a level of favoritism for sure if what was done was the case. Sumeru wasn’t done in india, and fontaine wasn’t done in paris either after all
@@findingaether I saw a comment on the original video that the lady playing the flutes and the gentleman playing the guitar next to her were from Peru, so they were probably flew them over to where this was performed, so by that I imagine they outsourced people from other latin american countries to participate, hoyo has the money, for fontaine they filmed an mv in france they have gone to brazil and mexico, I don't doubt the went there for musicians as well
not only South America, mi hermano, but Latin America (Mexico is also included).. it also has some points of inspiration from Maori and Caribbean culture.. the two presented songs not so much, but the new region in-game (Natlan), will have it.. can't wait to play it next wednesday
Sumeru was comprised of India, Persia, and Egypt, and the music they released largely tackled each of those nations in that order, so we can expect there will be tracks far more inspired by central and South America.
In some video comments someone said Hoyo mix made these arrangements have way more Latino influence but 2 years ago they swapped to have it be mostly African. I can't verify the legitimacy of it though. It's just 2 songs from the region, surely there's a lot of variety like always
Latino would mean that there’s influence from Quebec and haiti too which is not the case. Itd be better to call it iberoamerican really, and it can’t be just indigenous because with all the guitars and trumpets as well as the literal salsa tracks. That’s why its iberoamerican.
Since we're going there from Sumeru which has some northern african influences, it makes sense that the closest parts of Natlan have more African influence!
Just a friendly reminder, these are only two songs of many many more to come. There will be Australian, Hawaiin and much more South American and indigenous tunes to come!!
I'm sure that more of South American culture will be explored in other songs and in the lore and game itself So far, they have even revealed how some parts of Natlan have references to the Aztecs, Hawaiians and etc I'm anxiously waiting to see if they're going to use a berimbau in any song
I would love for you to react to Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising's OST! There is a playlist on RUclips by a guy named razrsrealm that has every character's theme. The music is very unique for each character, and I'd love to see how you react to each one!
think of it this way. There WERE more African instruments in the songs, However, If you noticed, the South American flutes had a much stronger presence in the music.
15:37 No estoy segura pero ya que están usando instrumentos andinos, la pequeña guitarra sea un "charango". Es muy similar pero la parte trasera es mas obalada.
I have some music reaction recommendations: Blue bird (opening 3 of naruto shippuden) (both the 1:30 version and the full almost 4 minutes version,this is gonna apply to all the other anime openings that'll be listed here as well,with a slight difference in length for the full versions of them,now let's continue with the actual list after all that elaboration) Unravel (op of season 1 of Tokyo ghoul) Again (op 1 of full metal alchemist brotherhood) Liar mask (2nd op of akame ga kill) The redhood (a song from a gacha game called nikke:goddess of victory) Of course feel free to link me the reaction videos to any of these if actually have heard any of them before
Hi Omar, I'm sorry for the late reply maybe you already found the anime openings reactions, but in case you didn't: Here is Unravel and other anime openings (I also have other videos with anime openings reactions) ruclips.net/video/yJUssh-jvYA/видео.html Regarding Blue Bird, I watched all of Naruto Shippuden when it was aired so it wouldn't be a first time reaction.
It's interesting that they decided to lean on African inspiration for this promotional video, but there's a lot of melodies heavily inspired by Latin America too in the OST, fear not.
Maybe.. just MAYBE.. you could like.. bring Vesania??? Its another FNF song, but Vesania is from the mod Wednesday Infidelity, and yes!! Its Mickey Mouse 😂
hi! there are a few tracks that give more of a south american vibe: ruclips.net/video/m1KlMecTFuw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/zdqCyJcT6iU/видео.htmlsi=1BYCxbpZGxKby0_f&t=255 id love to see ur thoughts on them!
You can say whatever you want about Genshin, but it's ability to bring importance and awareness to art and culture is unmatched!
@@Jhulian_R I totally agree 😄
It’s crazy how so many people can enjoy the game from so many different facets and in so many different cultures
@@Jhulian_R Yeah but they couldn’t even bring skin color to a game 😭
@@IDontReallyLikeY0u bro thinks everything is about skin
@@IDontReallyLikeY0u lo más racista, es darle importancia algo como el color de la piel
13:07 That motif you are thinking of does not have an official name, but the community has taken to calling the "Photon of Fluctuation" motif because it is the first song that it appears in. Every region has a variation of this motif in one of their battle themes, and it's also present in other songs.
You can say that this motif is the identity of the game, though I'm not a fan of it. But adding vocals to this motif makes it feel so much different and I love it.
I think it’s kind of travellers battle theme or something
@@YOLO-12455 you can definitely say that. Photon of Fluctuation is a fancy way of saying Light of Change, and the Traveler has always been glowing in golden light during important cutscenes in the game.
@@YOLO-12455 no it's the slime theme
Yo can you mention the battle theme names that use this motif? I think we dont have in sumeru and fontaine right?
its truly amazing how hoyomix just outdoes every year. The culture they represent through their music is always breathtaking. It crazy how much work they put in for music in a video game.
They never miss 🔥
And you know they did it right when they have natives from those regions of inspiration who react with “That’s my culture! That’s what I grew up with!”
I think the Cradle of Humanity aspect is why the African aspects of the pieces seem to form their core. The thing with Natlan is that it is comprised of several different tribes, each being based in a different part of the world (most of them being from the Ring of Fire), and so I'm expecting different pieces of music to lean more heavily on specific cultures. We'll be able to hear the first patch's worth of music within a week (three tribes) with more tribes and their areas/music being introduced in later patches.
@@effortlessfury That’s actually genius, having the different tribes of Natlan bring different “cradle” cultures from different parts of the world, with Africa at the center. And we are only getting into the first portion of the country. We know we have African and South American influences. I thought I heard Aboriginal Australia would be an influence in Natlan as well. Whichever the case, I’m looking forward to more music from the Natlan region!
That’s such a clever reference and makes absolute sense 🔥
S.America and Africa used to be one continent. 😂
@@findingaether True!
it’s really cool to me that the language they’re singing in is Swahili!
I find actually very heart-warming to see people feeling genuinely represented by Natlan's OST. I think that representation can come in many ways... Genshin has this unique fantasy world that mixes various cultures and seeing part of this on its soundtrack is way more than skin color. I mean, I would love to see more dark skinned characters as well, but this is straight up a good job from the devs. Hard to think back in the day that a chinese game would pay homage to african culture in such a respectful way.
it's easier for a lot of people to connect with characters visually so they're rightfully upset with the designs but it's just not fair or true to say genshin's doing a bad job with cultural representation. it's a bigger problem with anime as a genre that i think we should recognize when something is done well, and encourage that as the standard, but there is absolutely no nuance in online discourse when people are just trying to shut down a discussion by winning the moral high ground in 280 characters
@@katm5458 I... kinda don't think its easier necessarily? Idk. There's this anime called Girls Band Cry. The protagonist is a young japanese girl and I felt imediately connected to her, not because of her appearence. In fact, I'm a brazillian black man (lol). I legit started crying so much a certain moment on episode 2 because her situation was so relatable to mine, her fear, anxiety, personality, all of that. It didn't matter for me the fact that she was so different from me visually. I just felt that "yeah... this girl went through some suffocating situations". For me, the great part of fiction, is that you can connect, robots, animals, aliens, and various types of characters because they are going through things that you can understand and connect. Not saying that it wouldn't be absolutely AWESOME to have more variety on skin color in the game, but I think for me is more about "that would be sooo cool" more than "now I feel represented", you know?
@@HousekiMitai i agree that it's easier to connect with a character emotionally through their story from a single person's point of view. i meant to say that the way genshin presents its content makes it more likely for a good portion of players to connect with characters' visual designs over other factors, mainly because it's more accessible - a 1.5 minute demo featuring some voicelines that capture their personality, and a self contained story quest, which.. as well as the lore of teyvat is written, i feel like there's a disconnect with what is actually incorporated and delivered in character quests and event quests. maybe that's intentional. it's probably easier for a pg13 gacha game to budget and sell characters this way. anyways, not to say that it's right or wrong but i think that's why some players are reacting the way that they are. most people don't want to read the lore, and most people don't have the musical knowledge to appreciate the research and collaboration with international musicians that goes into crafting the soundtrack (me, that's why i'm here). most people play the archon quest, skip through the main world quests, login for abyss refresh even, and wait to pull on characters that look cool to them.
@@katm5458 Sorry for the long reply, but I reallt felt like leaving a comment here too about what you said! It's the first time I see someone actually mention how this entire thing regarding representation is, in fact, a lot more complicated than either side want it to be. For context, I'm from Brazil, and white in our BR context. On one side, I think Hoyoverse lacks diversity in the cast, and it can and should visually represent the people from the cultures they are borrowing from and how they actually look like; they don't do that and we all know the reasons why ("characters of color wont sell", biases from both the company and the players, etc). On the other hand however, I ALSO think the representation they do in the music and lore references is actually pretty awesome, and more than often unlike in any other big game we see going on. Like, I know it may be strange but they can be both right and wrong at the same time. I wish we could talk about these with more nuance more often, without the entire dismissing of the game, cause I learned a lot through Genshin and I think that's so valid, even when they make mistakes! Or like, without ppl saying that "skin color doesnt matter and doesnt represent culture"; saying something like that is naive at best and disingenuous/convenient at worst. So yeah TL;DR is that It's not that simple on either side imo..
@@CelticBotansDigitalArt I do think people tend to oversimplify those topics. It always ends with people calling each other r*cist, trying to demonize them. They simply wont take into consideration what the other said (well, thats the internet lol). But in my opinion: Diversity and representation can come in many ways, not necessarily the color of a character. When it comes to Genshin, while I'd love to see more characters with different skin colors and I'm consistently sad that Dehya isn't a good character to play with, we can't say that they are not representing other cultures in various other ways. Heck, I fell in love with South Asian culture and music thanks to Sumeru. That whole "drama" with Natlan not having more character of color was a bit too exaggerated, in my opinion. Again, it would be very cool, but people were missing the point, directing their hate towards things that didn't make any sense when it should simply be "I'm pissed because I was expecting to be different" and it would be totally fine. But some arguments I read were absurd and outright nonsensical.
TL;DR: More characters of color would be awesome? Hell yeah! Does it mean that they are disrespecting other cultures by not having those characters? Nah.
the feeling of the first song you described is same for me, and I read people said same things too, "That son make me feel patriotic for fictional nation" is the fun description. But yes it absolutely fantastic that it can evoke such complex feeling and delivered nicely to the listeners.
I also teared up when I saw the samponia so you're not alone. I wanted to cry joy, then figuring out why, it's my roots finally hitting the big screen.
@@IPromiseTomorrow I'm Chinese American and when I heard Yunjin perform Chinese opera I teared up myself. It's incredible how our roots resonate with each of us.
bro i saw and heard the cuatro and teared up as well lmao
damn bro are you Colombian?
I understand what you mean, I'm Brazilian and these songs gave a feeling of patriotism or something like that 😂
I'm not even from the regions Natlan was inspired by (I'm from Southeast Asia), but I can still feel the pride in the music and boy did that give me goosebumps.
I'm not even from around there (I'm Filipino) and I felt like I had to stand up to respect it
@@orein1880 To be fair, we share some roots, friend. 🤝
OMG please when u play Natlan I beg you to respond to this comment after u hear the bossa nova and the samba in game!!!!!!
definitely on purpose, this is a region in a war with the abyss that claims to be on the verge of its downfall so of course it will have an anthem and have patriotism!!! makes it feel so different and more intense then all other regions, like if inazuma was actually good
soy de chile y que integraran instrumentos como la zampoña y la quena al tema principal de la región fue espectacular, realmente me llegue a emocionar
Y como faltan 3 tribus, ya quiero ver referencias a chile como el indio o los moais que son famosos mundialmente
I loved to see Quena and Zampoña, I feel my roots through their sound 🥺💕 such and amazing concert, music, and interpretations! 🤩
As a Brazilian I was blown away. Bravo Hoyoverse. This is peak music.
@@hlonghi have you heard battle theme 3? That's the most latino american shit ever, is the most brazilian feeling too
Natlan is inspired by all of the areas that are in The Ring pf Fire, so i am almost certain that there will be songs that lean into other cultures, these are just two songs
@@Executive14 it is also inspired by the various African tribes.
Natlan features six tribes and I think they are inspired from cultures from South America, Central Africa, Oceania (Polynesia), and/or Southeast Asia.
@@Executive14 I don’t get why people get the idea its based on the ring of fire. Japan, Southeast Asia, and Northeastern russia are the ring of fire. Meanwhile places like Africa, Australia, the antilles, and Brazil are like the Last thing from being part of the ring of fire. It’s too inconsistent to be the ring of fire.
@@Executive14 that can't be true. That would include alaska... do you.. know where the ring of fire is?
@@Someone45356correct!
I'm sure there will be more South American motifs in the game! There are 6 different tribes in Natlan, so far only 3 have been shown to us. I definitely heard Hawaiian motifs or something similar in the music of the People of the Springs :) And the Canopy(?) people are based on Maya, they will have their own music, perhaps with the inclusion of music from Mexico, Salvador... I am sure that Colombia will sound like the basis for one of the tribes :)
The two songs presented are the main theme of Natlan and the first battle theme, so there are many more great musical discoveries waiting for us! I'm looking forward to it!
I'm sorry if there are mistakes in the text, I'm from Russia and I use a translator :")
Natlan features six tribes and I think they are inspired from cultures from South America, Central Africa, Oceania (Polynesia/Hawaii), and/or Southeast Asia.
PS: I am looking forward to Snezhnaya region music with Russian and Slavic inspirations.
i'm so waiting for Sneznaya. "leaks" say that they mixed us all (more-or-less) northeners terribly. i already see all that firery comments flying xd
siiiiiii hay un motif que tiene acordes usados en la Garota de Ipanema TT
the 1st piece feels like an national anthem for natlan, whitch I think is so damn cool and well done.
7:21 indeed your ears heard 🙉 right. it's the same language as in the Lion King, it's Swahili ❤
me encanta saber que tu también notaste el cuatro, porque como venezolana fue uno de los primeros sonidos que me MEGA resaltaron de inmediato, y cuando lo vi en el video casi grité
si creo que en la segunda canción era el cuatro, por cierto, pues lo ves junto a una harpa tocando en los tonos del harpa llanera :'))
Natlan's main theme, in contrast to other nation's main themes, felt more like a national anthem and I simply love it.
Also, si quieres escuchar la influencia latina en Natlan, te recomiendo que busques el tema de batalla 3, está en YT pero no sé si seas capaz de hacer una vídeo reacción porque técnicamente no ha salido pero ha sido utilizada en material promocional así que... ahí lo dejo.
Dude I also just started crying listening. No story reason or background, just felt so hard. It's amazing.
The word is heroic.
Remembers me of stormwind theme music.
Also hello from Brasil!
La primera vez que escuche el live symphony de Natlan me sorprendí cuando vi que usaban la quena y la zampoña y me sentí un poco feliz se podría decir, ya que yo soy de Perú y hasta recuerdo que aprendí a tocar la zampoña en el colegio. La segunda canción que escuchaste es una de las tres músicas de combate que tiene Natlan. Si tienes la oportunidad deberías escucharlos, las otras dos que te faltan son el "Natlan battle theme 2" and "Natlan battle theme 3". Saludos.
Just adding that uploading leaked content is quite dangerous, it's a good way to get a DMCA. If he want to make a video about them, he should wait until next Wednesday.
You are wearing a Natlan vision in your shirt jaja Natlan itself has a lot of Aztec inspiration too. Yo también soy Colombiano y estos temas me ponen emocional también, son bien hermosos.
There are 6 tribes in Natlan and possibly the missing 7th tribe could be included somehow later in the story. We've seen 3 tribes introduced so far, the water tribe (Hawaii/Maori), Mountain tribe (Inca?), and jungle tribe (Brasil?).
the other 4 could be the aborigin, malay, colombia/Caribbean, and Mexica
the ancient civilization of Natlan might be the one inspired by Africa, each region had one after all... like Remulia (Roman) for Fontaine, Enkanomiya (Mycanean) for Inazuma, and Deshret (Egypt/Mesopotamia) for Sumeru.
wow, your comment needs more likes. I didn't know Enkanomiya is Mycanean inspired.
The water tribe seems to be inspired by hawaii but also resort tiki culture, the canopy one seems more based on the maya if kinich’s name is to be attributed to anything. Though then again if I’m not mistaken on the leaks, the tribe leader seems to be called wayna which is a quechua name with nothing to do with the maya nor with any of the present verdure backgrounds or clothing aesthetic as the canopy. As for the earth tribe it seems based on the pueblo/southwest US culture with the canyon and scenic architecture in the mountains? Again though the clothing choices seem like what you could buy from a tourist-savvy destination place with the over expensive faux pas shirts and clothes.
The choice to make culture out of something as urban as breakdancing is also a little bit odd but alright… After all how do we logically assume the music for breakdancing appears? Is it different? And if it is why is the music in-game in the tribe itself straight up just hip hop? Are there now drum machines in natlan? Why only natlan then, and how would drum machines or music players be powered? It leaves a lot of questions like that because nothing thus far in teyvat has been that modern for sure.
I think it’s sort of a weak point with natlan. It seems like hoyo just fused a number of very random aesthetic choices for each individual tribe based on feel and called it a day. It’s like if I dumped korean culture in liyue because it “feels asiatic”, with as much sense as that makes lmao. With the sort of questions, before those were easy to circumvent but this time it being so loud and present makes the immersion a loot easier to question for sure.
Cant even imagine the bosses themes
@@ivangalvI bet they will be very fire for sure
Wow eres de Colombia!
Soy mexicana y tanbien senti ese sentimiento de patriotismo con la canción principal jajaja
Hello I love your videos!!! The instrument in min 14:18 I think it’s a Charango like a little guitar. I’m from Peru and I’m tearing up hearing instruments from South American countries in the game that I love so much .
Thank you for the nice comment!
I do know the Charango, I'd say it's not one since it generally has 5 pairs of strings (10) and this one only has 4.
Also generally you can see the armadillo's armor on the back of the instrument. Let's keep tearing up with the great music of this game ❤️🔥
@@Jhulian_R ohh I did not notice the number of strings, good to know.
Finally someone who recognizes the andean instruments! I'm not south american but still latin american and I really enjoy music with all these traditional instruments so I was very happy when I saw them being used here!, They sound so so beautiful. I was thinking it would have been GREAT to have a song with south american/north american native language or at least some words if full composed lyrics were not possible, because I understand it's hard compared to swahili which is still used nowadays. So I wondered why they didn't include more south american elements and i came to this conclusion: For the main themes at least I understand they can't include so many languages and instuments, so maybe they chose the most unique "elements" from each culture for the songs. Many people say that the first song "Natlan" reminds them of the lion king muscal because of the vocals, like the African singing style is very unique and powerful, while south american traditional instuments have beautiful warm sounds that make you feel closer to nature, like the wind instruments remind us of birds. These instuments also convey deep emotions and I think they do it in a very unique way, like all organic instuments do so but south american instruments are specially good at that in my opinion. So yeah, maybe that's why. I think in one of the new character trailers I heard aztec-like music, mainly percussion. I can't wait to know more about this new GI update so I can see and hear more and I hope they included more south american elements too!
The soundtrack as a whole is more diverse. I listened to other tracks and some of them are pure latin rhythms. When it's officially out, you should definitely check it out.
I'm so ready for this kind of global instrumentation. This is so right for the world of music gaming.
soy de Colombia y como dices, no se ma da una centimiento de alegria y de orguyo, se me erisa la piel, cada ves que puedo la buelvo a escuchar y no me canso,
la primera es el tema principal de la nacion y la segunda es el tema de batalla
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO REACT TO THIS JHULIAN!!! Also what you said about an ancient legacy being passed on, you're spot on regarding what we know about the plot for this region! Always a joy to see your reaction :)
Yo soy venezolana/colombiana y la verdad también adoré esto, reconocí varios instrumentos que son típicamente de países sudaméricos y me encnata como combinan tan perfectamente con instumentos que son típicos de Sur África, algo que me emociona porque me recuerda mucho a las musicas folklóricas de mi país, que al ser caribeño, tiene muchísima influencia africana, como el tambor, por ejemplo.
There are some songs that are more south american inspired, however since they could only show 2 songs in the livestream they chose the main songs (Battle ost 1 and Natlan) an example of 2 songs that are more south american would be the Battle ost 2 and 3 (however this is in leak territory and Its not officially released yet)
so nice to hear your opinion at adaptation of yourown music tradition to genshin. i do wonder how will i feel when they do snyezhnaya (yeah i, m sure they will mix us Slavic up and probably ad Scandinavians to the bucket ;))
i played genshin for like 2 hours a while back and never touched it again, never knew it made absolute bangers
That was my case as well
JHULIAAAN espero puedas reaccionar a las demas piezas que vienen en Natlan, hay salsa cubana, bossa nova, samba, flamenco!
Man I also cried first time I watched it like literally since it started and I still do. Somehow it makes me feel so proud of my people and land.
Yes it's quena and zampona. They're so rare in game music😍
13:00 yeah thats genshin battle theme leitmotif ❤
Natlan has African, South American, North American, and Pacific influence
the two channel i couldn't wait to watch were from you and Samizard. your reaction did not disappoint!
i agree that i think the two pieces Hoyo presented as of now very heavy in African sounding despite having indigenous instruments from South America, i think it's just the general theme for Natlan. BUT! we do have six tribes in Natlan. one of them seems to be based on Asia Pacific (Mualani's tribe) so perhaps we will actually get a music with a tribe that is very South American next time.
What I can tell you as a Brazilian is that there's something very familiar about these songs to me, but Brazilian music has strong roots in African, Native American, and European music in an equal measures, so it's not weird that the sounds of these songs feel familiar to me.
También soy de Colombia, cuando escuché este soundtrack lloré porque es hermoso, suena tan epico y heróico y la letra es inspiradora😌
About the second song of the show, you're not wrong in recognizing it from Genshin: that's the same motiv as a song, called "photon of fluctuation" which appears in all regions. They basically took that song ad made a Natlan version of it.
At this point I fear I'll stand in attention once we get the full Snezhnaya anthem
Natlan is just starting and not all the tribes/areas have been released yet so I think we will get more music from other influences ^^
Natlan does indeed have South American sounds, the ost was leaked so I heard a couple but decided to wait until the game is released to hear the rest, but they chose to perform these songs for the special program, my guess is because they will take center stage in the main story quest. They might release performances for the other songs later just like they did with Sumeru and Fontaine, would be interesting if they also included some dancers because you can't have that type of music without someone dancing to it xd
@@5yenwishes590 imagine the first somg is played at the climax of the hame when the tournament is won or natlan is somehow saved from the abyss incursion.
The focus on south america is just tied to quenas and zampoñas musically. I would mention ocarinas too but those are also originally from mesoamerica and used there.
@Someone45356 I feel part of the reason is practical...that since the symphony was filmed in London it's probably easier to source musicians who are good with African instruments. If they did the filming somewhere in the US they will probably feature songs that used more Latin instruments.
@@findingaether Is this a reply to a wrong comment thread? But well that’s true that the US would be better for sourcing hispanoamerican instruments, though what would be the difference at that point than just getting the lima or mexico city, etc philharmonic. I wouldn’t be saying anything if hoyo did the whole OST with london alone, but clearly for liyue and inazuma it seems to have a level of favoritism for sure if what was done was the case. Sumeru wasn’t done in india, and fontaine wasn’t done in paris either after all
@@findingaether I saw a comment on the original video that the lady playing the flutes and the gentleman playing the guitar next to her were from Peru, so they were probably flew them over to where this was performed, so by that I imagine they outsourced people from other latin american countries to participate, hoyo has the money, for fontaine they filmed an mv in france they have gone to brazil and mexico, I don't doubt the went there for musicians as well
La primera canción siempre me da nostalgia …. Es muy bonita
Esta bastante bien, el conjunto de todos los instrumentos y voses suenan majestuoso, ¡Natlan!
About the instruments, here in Brazil we have it all.
We are all the people in one place.
not only South America, mi hermano, but Latin America (Mexico is also included).. it also has some points of inspiration from Maori and Caribbean culture.. the two presented songs not so much, but the new region in-game (Natlan), will have it.. can't wait to play it next wednesday
this sunstone on your t-shirt is Natlan Vision
Sumeru was comprised of India, Persia, and Egypt, and the music they released largely tackled each of those nations in that order, so we can expect there will be tracks far more inspired by central and South America.
Hoyoverse is actually a music company, and they just use their games to promote their music 😂
I wish for this meme to come true so hoyo-mix can get their well-deserved flowers😭 im sad that they’re underrated. they deserve every award for music
In some video comments someone said Hoyo mix made these arrangements have way more Latino influence but 2 years ago they swapped to have it be mostly African. I can't verify the legitimacy of it though. It's just 2 songs from the region, surely there's a lot of variety like always
I can deny it. There are Latino songs in the game in addition to this. It’s just those were leaked early.
Latino would mean that there’s influence from Quebec and haiti too which is not the case. Itd be better to call it iberoamerican really, and it can’t be just indigenous because with all the guitars and trumpets as well as the literal salsa tracks. That’s why its iberoamerican.
You know about quenas and zampoñas? Ok, now i'm impressed. Sir You gain yourself a new suscriber
Conclusión: esta banda sonora de Natlan es la monda mi hermano.
Jajaja amé leer eso :')
Maybe the first half of Natlan is more African and we can get more South American influences in future tribes since we have only been shown 3 of 6.
Since we're going there from Sumeru which has some northern african influences, it makes sense that the closest parts of Natlan have more African influence!
You should check natlan battle ost 3
Just a friendly reminder, these are only two songs of many many more to come. There will be Australian, Hawaiin and much more South American and indigenous tunes to come!!
I'm sure that more of South American culture will be explored in other songs and in the lore and game itself
So far, they have even revealed how some parts of Natlan have references to the Aztecs, Hawaiians and etc
I'm anxiously waiting to see if they're going to use a berimbau in any song
Yep. In 5.0 we basically will meet the first 3 tribes. Later wll be 3 more.
I would love for you to react to Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising's OST! There is a playlist on RUclips by a guy named razrsrealm that has every character's theme. The music is very unique for each character, and I'd love to see how you react to each one!
plssss listen to venture of tonalamatl from the natlan soundtrack i think you’d love it tbh
Nah man😂 when I listen to this, I feel like I could fight an entire army 😂
think of it this way. There WERE more African instruments in the songs, However, If you noticed, the South American flutes had a much stronger presence in the music.
15:37 No estoy segura pero ya que están usando instrumentos andinos, la pequeña guitarra sea un "charango". Es muy similar pero la parte trasera es mas obalada.
Natlan is a mix of african, australian , north and south american cultures
I have some music reaction recommendations:
Blue bird (opening 3 of naruto shippuden) (both the 1:30 version and the full almost 4 minutes version,this is gonna apply to all the other anime openings that'll be listed here as well,with a slight difference in length for the full versions of them,now let's continue with the actual list after all that elaboration)
Unravel (op of season 1 of Tokyo ghoul)
Again (op 1 of full metal alchemist brotherhood)
Liar mask (2nd op of akame ga kill)
The redhood (a song from a gacha game called nikke:goddess of victory)
Of course feel free to link me the reaction videos to any of these if actually have heard any of them before
Hi Omar, I'm sorry for the late reply maybe you already found the anime openings reactions, but in case you didn't:
Here is Unravel and other anime openings (I also have other videos with anime openings reactions) ruclips.net/video/yJUssh-jvYA/видео.html
Regarding Blue Bird, I watched all of Naruto Shippuden when it was aired so it wouldn't be a first time reaction.
It's interesting that they decided to lean on African inspiration for this promotional video, but there's a lot of melodies heavily inspired by Latin America too in the OST, fear not.
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You are right being similar language to lion king, hakuna matata. Its Swahili
Some of the other Natlan music has a more South American vibe than these ones.
The Natlan OST has potential to become my favorite in the game.
ah ¿Que eres de Colombia? naaaaaaaaaa, pana!
the battle theme 3 sounds like latin
I might be wrong since I'm not from south america
I'm not sure if I misunderstood you but the Steel pan isn't an African instrument. It was founded in South America
Maybe.. just MAYBE.. you could like.. bring Vesania??? Its another FNF song, but Vesania is from the mod Wednesday Infidelity, and yes!! Its Mickey Mouse 😂
Creo que cantan en suagili o algo asi
hi! there are a few tracks that give more of a south american vibe:
ruclips.net/video/m1KlMecTFuw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zdqCyJcT6iU/видео.htmlsi=1BYCxbpZGxKby0_f&t=255
id love to see ur thoughts on them!
Como peruano, escuchar instrumentos como la quena y zampoña, fue una grata sorpresa. Por cierto, el idioma en el que cantan es swahili.
Saludos.