I Bought a Titanic Era Couture Gown ( OMG 😭) / Unboxing Antique Edwardian Women's Clothing
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2020
- I bought a 1909-10 (Titanic-Era) couture evening dress for cheap and I basically lost my mind when I opened up the box. I hope all of you Edwardian enthusiasts are ready for a shockingly well preserved Coquenhem & Cie Black silk chiffon goodness that is coming your way. Cause this antique dress is *stunning*.
If you've ever been curious about how couture gowns were made during the early 1910s, this video will help uncover a lot of their (insane) secrets. How this dress has survived in such good condition is truly a mystery. Dressmakers, couturiers, and seamstresses in the early 1900s were some of the bravest makers I think that have ever existed because silk chiffon shouldn' be able to withstand this much weight. I hope all of you fashion historians, historical costumers, seamstresses, and Titanic history and film fans will enjoy this unboxing. This piece is truly a treasure.
We make a passing reference in the video, but this gown was made using almost identical techniques found in Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion 2: Englishwomen's dresses and their construction c. 1860-1940. It's currently out of print, but the School of Historical Dress will be re-releasing the book in the future.
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The pink chiffon actually brought tears to my eyes, It’s unbelievable. I can almost feel how gorgeous the original owner was in this gown. She was a baddie forsure
it would be amazing to see this on someone and it moving around. But I understand that it can't happen :(
@@asilverfoxintasmania9940 We could... If someone studied it and replicates it? Hoping Nikki is going to take up the challenge and show us 😁
@@felicitygee381 : maybe Bernadette Banner would sew it :)
I would love to see this reproduced. All that beading though. That would be a labour of love. Have to say that that hint of soft pink just made the dress. It was so gorgeous.
my boyfriend heard me watching this and thought it was porn 😂
Not the first time I’ve confused people with my noises 😂 “Is it porn or antique clothing unboxing?” Should probably be my channel’s subtitle 😂
ha--he wasn't wrong! XD
My boyfriend also shot me a very concerned look 😆
Not surprised, what with some of the noises Abby makes, plus her comments about needing to 'get inside'.
I will admit that I have an inner Beavis-n-Butthead, and it doesn't take much for my dirty mind to slide right into the gutter.
Ditto! I’ll try watching again later but had to shut it off
Me, a Titanic nerd and historical fashion nerd: *sees the thumbnail and literally chokes on tea with excitement* I've never clicked so fast in my life.
Right there with you!! Anything early teens!
My tea very nearly came out my nose.
Same, im on my lunch break at work (aka my nap time lol) and opted to watch this instead
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Same here, saaame.
“That’s why after the teens were over they were just like: LETS MAKE A SACK” had me rolling on the floor lol
Nicole speaks the truth 😂
Pro tip: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching loads of movies recently.
Your genuine excitement is so contagious. And everyone needs friends like this!
Nicole is one of the more incredible friends I could ever have, I genuinely don't deserve her.
“Jack Dawson I’m ready for you!!” 😂😂😂
As a titanic nerd I just DIED laughing!
I assume there's like an hour of b-roll of Abby just going "OMG I CAN'T EVEN" for like an hour. Beautiful dress, amazing find!
Basically...yes... 😂
Alternate title: Watch me fangirl over a gown for almost 20 minutes. (you're adorable)
LOL - (also hope your pets are sensitive to squealing voices cause...it's gonna get crazy in 3..2..1..) 😂😂😂
But that would be the title for a lot of the videos Abby does! :)
My daughter who doesn't really care about fashion history still enjoyed it because Abby's excitement was palatable.
@@AbbyCox Yeah, my service dog thought I was dying for a hot minute there.
The first 5 minutes are just verbal “zoomies” and I am HERE for it!
Abby, your enthusiasm is just such a joy to watch 🥰
omg verbal zoomies is the best description i have ever heard! 😂😂😂
“Verbal zoomies” is an amazing expression
I am HERE for Nicole guest starring as often as she feels like it. I feel like you two chatting brings out such cool history knowledge from you both. :)
and the eye roll was spectacular, well okay head roll!
Me: Has almost no experience making any sort of wearable clothing...
*watches video*
Me: It’s time to make a dress and live out the dreams of my childhood Titanic obsession!
We could all use a Nicole in our life! Barely functioning due to excitement and needing a second pair of hands? Just call your Nicole! There she is with a second pair of hands and a wealth of information in a moment flat. What a great pal!
also with the most expressive face which adds a whole other level of humor to the video if you watch it and ONLY watch her 😂😂
All the best antics start with...."are you busy?" And only a really good friend says "no" first rather than "why?"
What is her RUclips channel
@@ShecallsmeSusan In case you haven't already found it, she's here! : ruclips.net/user/NicoleRudolph
If your friend does sew a version of this, I would love to see a video on it.
Had to pause and give this MY FULL UNDIVIDED ATTENTION because I am always down for Titanic-related anything. Love that Nicole is summoned like a Ghostbuster to help with the precious.
This is the most accurate way to describe her. I’ve just summoned her now acutally... literally...she just walked in and the dogs are freaking out
I am french and I am not sure how to pronounce Coquenhem either. It seems to be from Lorraine and was earlier spelled "Coguenheim" which makes much more sense. I'm not sure how the parisians of last century butchered it...
I would go with something like "Koken hem" myself, probably not how they pronounced it, but it's a french mispronounciation of a germanic name anyway...
French viewer here also ;) I second your deductions about that company. I found this other dress but earlier design on the MAD (Museum of Decorative Arts ) website: collections.lesartsdecoratifs.fr/skinwebsearch?f[0]=f_creation:Coguenhem+%26+Cie . Might be useful for Abby :)
I believe you are correct in this. I worked at the Bath Museum and was taught to pronounce it 'Kokenhem' with the same rhythm as you'd say 'Go Get'em'. If it was originally 'Kogenhem' that would make complete sense for the changes in accent.
"Oh, 11 year old me is dying right now."
I felt that right there. Same! 💝
It's gorgeous, Abby!
Alternative title: Abby joy-gasming and nerding out for 20 minutes.
Best way to spend a Sunday. Nerding out over beautiful clothes!
Vintage-gasm ? Edwardian-gasm ?
A) The outtakes are amazing! B) Holy Cannoli, BatAbby!!! That dress is just...my brain fails to conjure a word that can adequately describe its wondrous nature. That’s a whole lot of words to say, “l’m speechless,” no? Wow! The fact that you’re trying to find it a home in a museum is exactly why I just adore you. Thank you for sharing it with us.
I’ve been obsessed with the Titanic since 1982. On the 70th anniversary of its sinking, April 15, 1982, my class (2nd grade) went out to the field and measured out the length of the Titanic...my poor little 7 year old brain was incapable of understanding how something so big could be lost. I also had no grasp of how huge the ocean really is. I started learning everything I could! When they found it three years later, I was glued to the TV. I can’t count how many times I watched James Cameron’s movie, not so much for Jack and Rose, but because he literally built a 3/4 Titanic right down to the china and the silverware, using (mostly) the companies who built her originally. The 1890’s through the late 19 teens is my favorite time period. My great-grandparents were getting married and starting their families, and I heard the stories from my grandparents. I love seeing their childhood memories brought to life. I just jumped to the $10 tier... I can’t wait to see more!!
OMMGGGGG that's amazing!!! I would have love to have been alive (born 86) and conscious enough to watch that happen...so cool! I also love all things Titanic era - the exhibits are always so fascinating, how much they've pulled up from the wreckage, people's stories...fascinating history
I was living in Southampton when the Titanic film came out. They vamped up the Titanic museum and seeing the personal objects , including letters sent to loved ones before the disaster, of regular people, especially the staff/crew had me in tears. I love the glamour, but it is always haunted a bit with what I saw that day.
Lady Mary would kill Lady Edith to own this dress!
And while they are fighting over it Lady Sybil would slip it on.
"I bought something I probably shouldn't own." I don't know why this had me laughing my ass off. But it did. Ha!
Omg. It matches my measurements. I have never wanted to try on a dress more in my life 😂❤️
Matches my 17 yr olds too and yes, I did look at her and imagine her in it
Absolutely stunning
Umm...yes please? 😂😍
I had to turn down the volume for this in case people thought I was looking at... Other things
I absolutely love Abby's energy so much, and also i really like that everytime she comes up in a video she's not afraid to brag about her skills, it's not even bragging she Is That Good™
Seeing you both - who are so knowledgeable about vintage garments - so impressed and excited, made me excited too. The fun is contagious and, Abby, you’re completely adorable when you unbox beautimous things❣️ Edited to add.... You’re adorable on all of your vids. 😄
"I've opened up the baby" a sentence that just gets all the wrong thoughts when it is out of context xD
I was like "aaaand now they're both on a list" 😂
Oh Abby it's a shame you couldn't show more enthusiasm. Seriously I just love when you get excited about unboxing. Nice to see Nicole make a guest appearance. Can't wait to see what's in store for next week.
I am the queen of deadpan 😉
I’m at the size I need to look more at Kathy Bates’ dress but OMG that one is incredible!
A Gypsy Circle this made me lol so hard 🤣 cause same here
Me, reading thumbnail: "I bought a Titanic" I clicked so hard, gave my thumb whiplash!
everything Abby is saying in incoherent about the dress I'm saying about her blouse. And I'm totally digging Nicole's "Space Cowboy" look.
Lmao the intro had me rolling of laughter. My mom looked at me from afar and looked so confused 😂😂
When you asked "Where's Jack" I could only think "There was room on that door!"
There was room, but there wasn’t enough buoyancy, which was the actual issue. Which, as Lindsay Ellis points out, is beside the point. The narrative needs him to sacrifice his spot on the door for her, and so he does. Though there was a cut scene in which another passenger wants to get on with Rose, and Jack prevents him, saying that it won’t float with two people on it. So there was an explanation (whether that holds up to actual physics or not) within the story for why Rose was the only one on the door.
@@katherinemorelle7115 And it also wasn't even a door
Mythbusters says there was ruclips.net/video/JVgkvaDHmto/видео.html
Me: I should finally sit down and edit that video
Abby: Old Clothes
Me: but.... productivity....
Abby: OLD CLOTHES
Me: fine
Much joy
I'm just here for Abby's excitement. The clothing is extra 😂
Also I can't imagine what your husband's reaction to hearing this when you filmed
He wasn’t home 😂
Can we please show appreciation for Nicole's shirt? I usually don't like a buttondown shirt and I can't get enough of this!
Watching Abby just spaz, fangirl and have a meltdown over a new acquisition is litterally what I'm here for. She is so stinking adorable!
My mother used to do that kind of work .. .beading on fabric for the church. I cry when I think what probably happened to all her glorious work. It is absolutely magnificent labor to do and demanding I learned only a little.
I think this is my favourite so far. I really loved Abby's minutes of speechless awe of the gown. Thanks for bringing Nicole in on it. Her practical awe of 'The Precious' was just the right touch of humor. I hope you recreate it. BTW did you know that Les Arts Décoratifs own à 1898 mint green dress from the same Maison. It with Countess Elisabeth Greffuhle Soinard day dress are TDF.
This video was glorious. I know absolutely nothing about garment construction, but seeing you guys fangirl over this gown and showing us is just.. amazing!
Keep up the great work! (I also looove the editing btw!)
2:32 Abbys first dressgasm, for this episode.. ;)
I cannot WAIT for the delicious details post. Those sleeve pleats...I usually don't like pleats. But those are so LOVELY!
Also your speechless, high register honest to goodness squeals of excitement have cleared my skin, watered my crops, and generally made my day
She might get another one once I get a mannequin that small. I really hate that she just had to be laid out on a table. She's so stunning and I want to see how the weight of the skirt hangs and then I want to scream and fan girl all over it again and cry a little bit about how precious she is.
@@AbbyCox yasssssss
I loved seeing such a gorgeous and unique dress. I imagine it’s too fragile to wear (heaven forbid!!), but I think it’d be so cool to hire a designer someday and see if you could create an exact replica of this dress for wearing. I’d just die to see how it looks on someone.
I am 100% here for a Nicole/Abby series in which we see this dress recreated. 100%
Seconded!
I love your unboxings! You're awesome! On side note my family was very wealthy and or aristocratic in Eastern Europe. My maternal grandfather's family three weeks before cancelled their trip on the Titanic because his found out she was pregnant with his brother at 49. My grandfather would have 4 years old if he had been on it as a first class passenger. All my great-grandparents owned haute couture clothing from Paris (my mother's paternal grandmother in a Worth gown with a huge hat, she was 6'1"). Even my maternal grandparents did. A lot of my maternal grandmother's clothing was donated to museums. When she came to Canada in 1931 [she was a first class passenger; and yes her boat almost hit an iceberg (and we have the picture of the of this on the deck) and it was a White Star Line ship,The SS Megantic (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Megantic) on it's last crossing in May 1931(she arrived on May 25, 1931 in Quebec] , her and her father made a three month stop for her traveling trousseau. Labels included: Chanel and Lavin. She told me of the experience being fitting in the fashion salons (never had this experience). My maternal grandparents were both born in the Edwardian Era and dressed by their servants before coming to Canada. My maternal grandfather came to Canada (most aristocratic were lost by the end of WWII) in 1950. He flew British Airways because he hated boats.
You could challenge each other to remake this? Maybe that would motivate you. Or make it for each other. I usually make it a) better and b) more willingly to others. I honestly enjoy it more when making stuff for others rather than myself
Your delight over this dress is infectious and it made my Sunday.
You are a brave lady trying to pronounce that name on camera. it still took me a second to work out a French pronunciation because the name isn’t typical French. The gue gives a kind of swallowed guh sound (in English, rogue has maintained the sound from the French origin) and you break after vowels, rather than consonants like we do in English. I would go with Coguh-nem (long o, barely audible guh). Just in case you get another piece from this designer and need to say it on camera again...although your attempts were very entertaining :)
The beading and trim is divine. But your reactions made my day.
Gaaaaahhhhhdddd this is GORGEOUS!!! She looks so well cared for! Your excitement sounds like me in the music sections of antique bookstores 😂 Y’all obviously treat these dresses so well, it’s so cool to watch experts handle these majestic relics!
I'll be honest, performance jittery Abby is hysterical.
As a French, you are forgiven. Even me and friends have a discussion on how to pronounce the final "m". But it's the "co" of co*k , "gu" like the "g" in game, "en" like the letter "n" (maybe the french prononciation for 1) "h" is silent and "em" like the letter "m" or like the 1 in my language. One day, i wan't to make a video about how the french-imported words in sewing activities are pronounce here ^^'
No way thats a french word. Je refuse d'accepter 😂
This is amazing! I enjoy your unboxing, I learn so much about historical sewing! Feels like I’m in the room with you! Thanks for sharing! Definitely keep us posted if this gorgeous gown gets a new home in a museum!!
we now have authentic footage of a nerdgasm in progress
You're reactions were how I wanted to react while in my internships dealing with historical dress lol
Ok I never realized how much I love old clothes until your channel! I wish I had the absolute knowledge you and Nicole have!! I'm feeling envious ha ha. How lovely you share this with us!!!
Abby in her thoughts: My followers don't want or need to see my entire collection of antique clothing.
Abby' followers: WE NEED AND WANT TO SEE YOUR ENTIRE COLLECTION OF ANTIQUE CLOTHING!
Oh my Loooord, that gown is the definition of elegance! The BEADING!! THE CHIFFON!!! Your enthusiasm and excitement is so precious!
This is AMAZING. Wow!!!!! Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Never let go, Abby, never let her go!
Nobody noticed how radiant and beautiful Nicole looks with( almost ?) no makeup, as if naturally gorgeously blushed with the best peachy shade for her complexion and how gorgeous this lip and blush look on Abby? I love them and their wisdom and content they share it in ssssoo much ❤️❤️❤️
I almost cried watching this. It’s just too beautiful. And to see your excitement. Thank you (and Nicole) for sharing this with us.
All that jet!!!!
First, your guest star is a fun addition to your episode and really interesting to hear you both discuss the garment together! I also thought the, I need to phone a friend scene is too relatable. That could be a super cute occasional way to add to the channel. We all relate to that on a daily almost, or maybe that’s just me. 😊Second, for those of us who are less familiar with the styles of eras gone by and how this particular garment actually looks worn. (The examples you add in certainly help to illustrate that!) To get your best estimation and vision of what this particular garment might have looked in its glory and how it could have been styled with hair and accessories would be mind blowing. Recreating this beauty sounds like it is not for the reasonably sane person to attempt so an artistic rendering that could illustrate “her” as worn and accessorized for those of us desiring to see it like I’m sure you do in your head. I haven’t read through all comments or explored the patreon(sp?) platform so my apologies if this has been addressed previously. Love your channel and think you are fabulous. Thank you for sharing your talents with us and keep doing what your doing because it is good stuff.
The utter joy and excitement in this video is the BEST!! I love it!
I'd need like 3 weeks to look as cute as Nicole did in 1 minute and 37 seconds.
squealed so hard and clicked so fast when I saw this.... I love her!
I did slow you down for .25 speed during the struggle bus to know what you said. HAHAHA
Most OHMYGOSHOHMYGOSHOHMYGOSH
It was really sweet watching you two get so excited about this, bc you're both clearly insanely passionate.
You geeking out was too much! I loved it ❤️
Edit: two years later and I still come back to this one to enjoy and feed of your happy/excited vibes ❤
😱😍🥰😁❤️❤️❤️❤️ - that was an absolute pleasure to watch, your excitement and enthusiasm are completely infectious!
Love this! So beautiful! Your excitement gets me excited about my projects 💕
This dress is so beautiful, and your excitement is super contagious and I feel that.
And oh boy do I have Titanic dreams! That first afternoon outfit is still my favourite movie or tv costume of all time. And the truly amazing editing and the shot itself does play into that, but even without the grand reveal, it would still be my favourite. It’s also perfectly historically accurate, because that exact afternoon suit was in a fashion plate earlier that year. The attention to detail on Titanic costumes was out of this world. I wish all movies could be so lovingly costumed.
She was so ready to pop over and help, Hi Nicole! She is so clearly with you in your enthusiasm and yet so absolutely amused with you. Friendship goals! Good to see you so happy again, Abby. Thank you for sharing!
Stunning!! You had me at Titanic era, my favorite. Abby, you bring so much joy to my Sundays!!😁🤣
Your channel is the reason that I've started getting into historical clothing and older-timey looks. I think they're FASCINATING because they all have SUCH a story of both the time they were worn/made and the people who wore them~!
you are literally ME every-time I get a vintage piece in the mail or at a thrift store.Girl, same. I am SO excited for you!
Your enthusiasm and knowledge and outright emotional response to this piece is a shot of espresso! Just found your channel and am digging it! This isn't even an era I study, reproduce or pay much attention and here I am watching and listening haha Love your handling of it and mention of no gloves being OK yay!
You two are so adorable! Your reaction is so pure and wholesome I just can't even with you 💚💚💚💚💚
OMG 😱 that is SUPER GORGEOUS 💐it’s love at first sight!💕
I am SO impressed that all that heavy beading didn't shred the chiffon!
And how strange it is that so many (presumably) black threads fade to brown. Brown threads in this video, brown threads in Bernadette's mantle video, and brown threads on two extant beaded black things I have too.
Truly colorfast black dye has always been really hard to achieve. Even now, sometimes modern clothes will fade to brown. Probably the biggest thing with the threads on this dress is that they are likely different fibers from the fashion fabric, and would have needed different dyes than the silks.
The beading design on this is just beautiful. Your videos have me adding another thing to keep an eye out for when visiting antique shops!
Thank you for making this experience available for so many people and for making this art relatable even for us who just passed by by coincidence and got hooked.
The close-ups but like UGH, like SIS, actually amazing. The beading, like wow and ribbon AAAAAHHHH!
This is such a funny beginning.
Pretty hat pin.
The precious!!!
Your excitement is awesome!!!
I think your dress is better!!!
It’s stunning!!!
The pink accents are pretty!!!
Good life choices made here!!!
I love that you needed a second set of hands.....
I love the oohs and aahs from Nicole!!!
Never pull from the chiffon.
Then the struggle buss is hilarious.
Fancy French place that made couture gowns in Paris.
So much work, but it’s going to be fun to do.
She’s so pretty!!!
Thanks for sharing!!!!
Bam!!!
Thanks a bunch!!! I’ll see you next week!!!
The dress is GORGEOUS! I'm just curious how this dress will be stored, since it is so perfect and old). Will it be in an temperature and humidity controlled room? Should this be in a museum, since it's so perfect? Can "normal" people do it justice with caring for it in the correct way? I'm just wondering if it wouldn't be safer to live it's life in an museum...
My goodness, this gown gave me heart flutters! I’m so amazed at how intact it is!
The fan Girling over the dress warms my heart!
This being my favourite era for dresses, I am in Heaven. Thank you 🥰
Amazing.Glorious.Watching you taking in your new treasure was such a delight! I can most definitely see Rose in that gown.
What a beautiful dress 😍 can’t believe that something so beautiful is out there and not in a museum🤯
I love the way you edit your videos, they are so delightfully funny.
I am literally drooling watching this. The pink accents made me want to cry. 💕
Oh my god you’re hilarious! I always thoroughly enjoy your videos! In this disastrous year of 2020 thank you for a time of enjoyment. You make me laugh and Bernadette makes me calm. Ok back to the nightmare. 😂😩😩
I got tingles looking at the beading ❤ Such a beautiful little lady!! (The dress but also you both)
Your absolute, exuberant joy because of this dress warmed my heart in a way few things do these days.
Love watching you fangirl over these pieces of clothing so much xx
That is the loveliest dress I've seen on your channel. You are right, she's definitely Museum Worthy! What a score!
Omigosh I totally understand your awe, Abby. I'm right there with you. This is my favorite era for fashion.
Gold Abby , just GOLD! She's a queen indeed.
The way you react to things is so similar to me that my dude asked if I had an American sister I didn't know about 😂
I love your channel and work so much! Big love from Australia and stay safe!
its lovely how much you love to study those beautiful garments, thank you so much
I don't care what mood you are in when you start an Abbey video...you are laughing and smiling when you finish! Such passion! You are so inspiring!!
I have never wanted to reproduce a dress, as mush as I want to reproduce that dress, right now. it is gorgeous! Way to go you!