I have a special place in my heart called wim wenders and when I first came to Berlin I saw it partly through his eyes and this made me fall in love with the city so bad that I promised myself that some day I will be living there to immerse into the beauty of his sadness
10:12 ‘In the 21st century, all cities will look more or less the same, and relatively unchanged from how they looked in the 20th century. A Starbucks and a Shake Shack on every other block!’ How did he know? He must have been an angel before filming that movie!
@@SUAVEcritic Well, of course I regret using that silly word 'hate' - it is just that I love some of Wenders' films so much but Wings of Desire seemed too 'processed' for me - too perfect, like opening a coffee-table book of beautifully exposed b&w photographs of Herb Ritts or someone like that. I preferred Wenders' films that had a bit more grit and "surliness" to them like "False Move" but of course what I say is nonsense I entirely understand...
@@AestheticOfTheImage I agree with your analysis, and with the term "processed". It is an endless and sad mystery to me that after two great films ("Alice in den Städten" and "Im Lauf der Zeit") (I use the German name just because the English one of the latter is silly) and some great moments in Falsche Bewegung, Wenders descended very progressively in painful irrelevance. Jacques Lourcelles, a French critic, is probably too harsh but has a point when he writes (about Wings of Desire): " Wenders admires and dreams of imitating Hollywood "B movies" directors (in the French use of that word) but his envy and his impotence only reveal the abyss that seperates them from him. The less they seemed to express themselves in their films, the more their films were expressive. For Wenders it is exactly the opposite."
@@jean-francoisbrunet2031 Thank you for offering that scathing comment by Jacques Lourcelles - I had not heard of him but am pleased you mentioned his name. I truly love Falsche Bewegung like you and Alice in the Cities. I wonder what the connotations of Im Lauf der Zeit are in German - perhaps you could explain as I have no knowledge of that language and I would be interested. (In English King of the Road is a well-known cliche for a driver who is courteous to other drivers.) I have a world-cinema movie channel that has quite a few of my favourite clips from Wenders you may possibly want to glance at: This from [Falsche Bewegung] ruclips.net/video/QcW_bUQUz3A/видео.html and this: ruclips.net/video/Rwx2W8yjd6A/видео.html as well as this from Kings of the Road (sorry1) ruclips.net/video/qZN78u3g2kE/видео.html and this from Summer in the city: ruclips.net/video/BbuPoFaFa7w/видео.html
The point is missed about the film and what it is representing, even if unintended. Plagiarism is the first act of most stories. The sons of God were angels so the fall of some set the stage for the flood, the stage is being set again in the thought life of many today. Genesis 6:1-8 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition 6 When men began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of all they desired and chose. 3 Then the Lord said, My Spirit shall not forever dwell and strive with man, for he also is flesh; but his days shall yet be 120 years. 4 There were giants on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination and intention of all human thinking was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved at heart. 7 So the Lord said, I will destroy, blot out, and wipe away mankind, whom I have created from the face of the ground-not only man, [but] the beasts and the creeping things and the birds of the air-for it grieves Me and makes Me regretful that I have made them. 8 But Noah found grace (favor) in the eyes of the Lord. To omit the first writing of the story is theft plain and simple, to give credit to the theft is criminal or just plain stupidity of the reader or viewer, the thief counts on it and most are in bliss, ignorance none the wiser.
@5:50 -- This is why the Germans have historically made the absolute WORST theologians, Luther especially. What would Wenders think is an "exciting" life for an Angel? How is the life of an Angel, anyhow? What is the purpose of an Angel? Christian theology would suggest those Angels are there with him to guide and protect, which is to say that his life is worth guiding, worth protecting ... but Wenders pities them? Sorry, chap. The only one that needs pity is you. This is why the Germans always go to such dark places in their thinking!
@@mrjohnnytoobad I'm not remarking on the film, I'm remarking on Wenders misguided, nihilistic "theology" that's a significant influence. It's all fair game. I always laugh at people like you that get sour about any criticism; your protest proves I got to the truth!
@@chrisprime9601 LOL, proves nothing of the sort, you irascible little troll. Oh look, you’re still talking shit that nobody gives a damn about, insisting you are somehow superior. It’s quite sad really.
I'm not interested in the film's theological "correctness". And while you're certainly free to interpret the movie in any way you like, this sort of theological/ nationalistic criticism of Wenders strikes me as particularly weird. I really don't think this film is about sorting out pedantic theological constructs. It's a meditation on what it means to be human and how it feels to live with the knowledge of our own mortality. We are bound to this mortal coil; only able to dream of transcending its boundaries. And what if we were somehow able to (literally) rise above our own physical appetites and limitations? What if we were to magically become immune to the ravages of time and become truly immortal spirits? Would we not then find ourselves dreaming of the touch of another human? Would we not yearn for the pleasures and even the pain of the material world? This strange paradox is not new. Nor is it specific to any particular time or place. But Wenders uses a particular time and place to frame these questions in a way that makes them feel less abstract and more real.
I have a special place in my heart called wim wenders and when I first came to Berlin I saw it partly through his eyes and this made me fall in love with the city so bad that I promised myself that some day I will be living there to immerse into the beauty of his sadness
So well said!
10:12 ‘In the 21st century, all cities will look more or less the same, and relatively unchanged from how they looked in the 20th century. A Starbucks and a Shake Shack on every other block!’
How did he know? He must have been an angel before filming that movie!
He is really wise man
Judging from his movies, he must be very receptive to the unseen.
Rooftop in Kentish Town, "The Big Smoke" late eighties.
amazing film
He has almost no German accent.
Thank you - ive never seen this
I hated this film so much - but love most of Wenders' other films.
hahaha
how can you hate Wings of Desire? pls explain
@@SUAVEcritic Well, of course I regret using that silly word 'hate' - it is just that I love some of Wenders' films so much but Wings of Desire seemed too 'processed' for me - too perfect, like opening a coffee-table book of beautifully exposed b&w photographs of Herb Ritts or someone like that.
I preferred Wenders' films that had a bit more grit and "surliness" to them like "False Move" but of course what I say is nonsense I entirely understand...
@@AestheticOfTheImage I agree with your analysis, and with the term "processed". It is an endless and sad mystery to me that after two great films ("Alice in den Städten" and "Im Lauf der Zeit") (I use the German name just because the English one of the latter is silly) and some great moments in Falsche Bewegung, Wenders descended very progressively in painful irrelevance. Jacques Lourcelles, a French critic, is probably too harsh but has a point when he writes (about Wings of Desire): " Wenders admires and dreams of imitating Hollywood "B movies" directors (in the French use of that word) but his envy and his impotence only reveal the abyss that seperates them from him. The less they seemed to express themselves in their films, the more their films were expressive. For Wenders it is exactly the opposite."
@@jean-francoisbrunet2031 Thank you for offering that scathing comment by Jacques Lourcelles - I had not heard of him but am pleased you mentioned his name. I truly love Falsche Bewegung like you and Alice in the Cities. I wonder what the connotations of Im Lauf der Zeit are in German - perhaps you could explain as I have no knowledge of that language and I would be interested. (In English King of the Road is a well-known cliche for a driver who is courteous to other drivers.) I have a world-cinema movie channel that has quite a few of my favourite clips from Wenders you may possibly want to glance at: This from [Falsche Bewegung] ruclips.net/video/QcW_bUQUz3A/видео.html
and this: ruclips.net/video/Rwx2W8yjd6A/видео.html as well as this from Kings of the Road (sorry1) ruclips.net/video/qZN78u3g2kE/видео.html and this from Summer in the city: ruclips.net/video/BbuPoFaFa7w/видео.html
Thank you you get it
Genius
The point is missed about the film and what it is representing, even if unintended. Plagiarism is the first act of most stories. The sons of God were angels so the fall of some set the stage for the flood, the stage is being set again in the thought life of many today. Genesis 6:1-8
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
6 When men began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
2 The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of all they desired and chose.
3 Then the Lord said, My Spirit shall not forever dwell and strive with man, for he also is flesh; but his days shall yet be 120 years.
4 There were giants on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
5 The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination and intention of all human thinking was only evil continually.
6 And the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved at heart.
7 So the Lord said, I will destroy, blot out, and wipe away mankind, whom I have created from the face of the ground-not only man, [but] the beasts and the creeping things and the birds of the air-for it grieves Me and makes Me regretful that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace (favor) in the eyes of the Lord.
To omit the first writing of the story is theft plain and simple, to give credit to the theft is criminal or just plain stupidity of the reader or viewer, the thief counts on it and most are in bliss, ignorance none the wiser.
@5:50 -- This is why the Germans have historically made the absolute WORST theologians, Luther especially. What would Wenders think is an "exciting" life for an Angel? How is the life of an Angel, anyhow? What is the purpose of an Angel? Christian theology would suggest those Angels are there with him to guide and protect, which is to say that his life is worth guiding, worth protecting ... but Wenders pities them? Sorry, chap. The only one that needs pity is you. This is why the Germans always go to such dark places in their thinking!
what an extraordinary thing to say ... can you not simply appreciate this film for what it is?
@@mrjohnnytoobad I'm not remarking on the film, I'm remarking on Wenders misguided, nihilistic "theology" that's a significant influence. It's all fair game. I always laugh at people like you that get sour about any criticism; your protest proves I got to the truth!
@@chrisprime9601 LOL, proves nothing of the sort, you irascible little troll. Oh look, you’re still talking shit that nobody gives a damn about, insisting you are somehow superior. It’s quite sad really.
I'm not interested in the film's theological "correctness". And while you're certainly free to interpret the movie in any way you like, this sort of theological/ nationalistic criticism of Wenders strikes me as particularly weird. I really don't think this film is about sorting out pedantic theological constructs. It's a meditation on what it means to be human and how it feels to live with the knowledge of our own mortality. We are bound to this mortal coil; only able to dream of transcending its boundaries. And what if we were somehow able to (literally) rise above our own physical appetites and limitations? What if we were to magically become immune to the ravages of time and become truly immortal spirits?
Would we not then find ourselves dreaming of the touch of another human? Would we not yearn for the pleasures and even the pain of the material world? This strange paradox is not new. Nor is it specific to any particular time or place. But Wenders uses a particular time and place to frame these questions in a way that makes them feel less abstract and more real.