@@dustinjames1268 Are YOU dumb? It is illegal in some countries and against terms with some ISPs in others. Like Russia, China, Turkey, Iran and the list goes on. You must be new to the internet.. can't even perform a simple google search on something you clearly know nothing about. Sad.
Nothing wrong with that, I do not shop on-line very much and it's all this on-line shopping causing so many stores to close making ghost towns in some cities, not good, not attractive, a lot of the bums, homeless start to inhabit or hang around these empty areas so if you think all this on-line tech stuff is so great just wait & see the end result.
The problem with just using incognito mode, is you still have the same IP address. You should also try to combine VPNs or proxies if you really want to play around with prices.
No wonder the books I needed for school would keep changing when I would search on Amazon for them. They would go from really cheap to super expensive to super cheap again, and I would get so confused, like “wasn’t that price different a couple of hours ago??”
+black horse Don't get cocky just because you know it. Many people, even those in their 20s might not know about this. It could be because it's not their interest, or they just literally have less time to find out and learn this thing.
@@monetcache Regarding click-bait these CBC segments are awesome. The editing, which I think is what the other guy mentioned is less polished than we're used to now from internet creators.
Exactly.That is why is useful to learn about stuff and the real value in how it is made and how it is marketed. When you know the actual market value of something you don't go blind and pay the first price you are shown.
actually there's a point at which it's what the vendor is willing to part with, (and stay in business). It's not a one-way street. It sounds like you're making apologies for vendor price hikes, when its equally morally valid to let consumers know they can search and get lower prices. You seem to be stepping back to get a better perspective, but not stepping back far enough!
I know this channel is in canada, but I tried it here in the states for different hotels and cars in my area. The same techniques they used too. And I got sometimes 40% off of a 4 star hotel room on my phone but on my laptop there was no discount for the same thing. If I ever want to rent a car or book a hotel stay, I'm definitely using this technique again to save more money.
@@arionnamichelle Honey is good. But nothing is free. I have seen partnerships between Honey and a local business in my country. Honey gave me a coupon of 10% off. when I double checked the local business website they actually got a 20% winter sale coupon active. So I think honey makes money this way because you are happy with 10% off but you could get a bigger discount from the local business site.
almost every country around the world has privacy laws and most of them get you to disclose potential privacy concerns one way or another. if you are in dought about any privacy concerns read their privacy policy and it will usually explain it. companies don't have to have one by law and I doesn't mean they follow it to the letter but if they don't and someone finds out it could mean big trouble from loss of business and in some cases law related problems. this video was talking about cookies though which is a bit different, they are used as a way for sites to remember things about you and don't need to be sold. they are on your computer and are designed to be handed back to websites they give them out.
There is no set "price" for a room in hospitality, everyone in the industry knows that. There's dozens of possible prices for a single specific hotel room, in any given night. All those "lowest" price guarantees aren't guarantees at all if you read the fine print. No one every reads the fine print. You get a "room" for 50% off, then your probably not going to get what's shown in the picture because you wont read the fine print.
I always notice when Amazon change thier prices. If you leave things in your cart for a while the website will notify you. Since I do online shop I will go into incognito mode to compare prices. That is a good idea
ingocnito wont change much, the difference they got was rng, you ip is still very very visible to the website, and you isp can see what your doing, incognito is only good for stopping chrome from saving it to your personal history, everyone else looking from the outside will still see what your looking at, you just dont have to delete your history.
Airlines have been doing similar ever since tickets became available for online purchasing. One time I looked for a flight on the company's own website, went to another company's website to check theirs, returned to the original, and the price had gone up considerably. This occurred within a matter of minutes.
They tracked your digital footprint and discovered that you are not a loyal customer. Therefore, punished you by raising the price of the listing which you returned back on after browsing on their competition.
In most instances this is actually inverse of what actually happened. Certain color's, shapes, words and so on can trigger you to think about certain things. For example if I ask you to spell "fork" then ask what you eat your cereal with, there's a strong chance you will tell me fork. It's similar to saying spell "slop" what do you do at a green light? people usually say "stop" when you actually hit the gas, not the brake at a green light lol. At some point in the day it's more likely that you were thinking about something from earlier in the day.. deja vu isn't just a strip club ya know. Because I have tried, repeatedly to get conversations I have had to lead to 1 single add and not once has it happened. And I mean I am surrounded by things with mic's like crazy. Multiple phones, echo's and google home. Just never once have I been able to pull an obscure topic out of thin air and have it magically result in an add for it. I mean sure if I wanna dumb what I say down I may likely find something kinda sorta close but not really. Like I could say the word "movies" maybe 1.5k times and then theres an add for a movie that just got released in a thetre that same day but the add wouldnt have came up because I said movie, it would have came up because it was release day. But even that, hasn't actually happened to me... im just sure its possible to have that kinda coincidence.
Prices on hotel rooms, airlines etc. have always been very volatile and subject to change. You also need to see how price discrimination exists in more solid retail goods.
Exactly. I've worked at multiple major retail chains. You don't see it, but most if not all do a mass price change at least once a week, and will continue to change prices on items here and there every day, and those prices aren't always the same store to store.
As a programmer I'm confident that lawmakers would make a thousand times bigger chaos if they tried to control the internet and technology. They simply can't monitor every single website's code and what it does. It cannot be done. On the other hand they would introduce laws that would prevent the natural competition in the industry and would slow economic growth. A better idea in my opinion would be for tech blogs and tech journalist to draw attention to this problem and the customers then can choose to force the company of changing by not using their sites. I think the only way of controlling the internet is simply transparency and being a conscious user. Laws only make a mess of technology.
There is nothing wrong with this really. If you don't like the price - get it somewhere else. In fact people AGREE to buy something at that price. That's it. Is it illegal for stuff to be more expensive in one physical store than in another of the same franchise? Because it's exactly the same thing. People have different purchasing power in different places. There are also different costs associated with serving customers in different places. If it can be done in any better way - a company would appear and prosper offering the lowest prices overall. But there isn't. Because such a company wouldn't survive. You get lower prices JUST BECAUSE somebody agrees to pay a higher price. You all think you're getting the best deal, and the FACT is that if there was any other convenient way to get a lower price, people would do it. Simply compare the prices. Hotels - compare Booking (I had horrible experience with them, will never ever book from them again, but I use them for browsing and reading reviews), Expedia, finding hotel information on Google Maps like their website or phone number, going to the website and seeing other booking methods, calling them to ask for a cheaper price if available, etc. This way I got to book stuff at HALF the price compared to booking sites, and dealing directly with the hotel means handling all troubles directly, and not through impotent useless third party "customer service" that only takes your time, and the most power they have is say "sorry".
I shop mostly on Amazon, but I have discovered how to play the system by adding things to my wish list and will watch if and when the price goes down. The market is always changing, and another way to shop online to avoid prices changing based on who you are is to shop online at your local library. The more that people do that, the more all over the map the prices are, and someone can base their purchase on pricing alone. I have always gotten a better deal not signing into my Amazon account from my own computer at home for some odd reason, and I have bought from Amazon as a guest at the library to see if that significantly changed price points. in some cases it did, and others not so much. Luck of the draw.
17 minutes into this video and I realize they've been going this same thing for years at shopping centers. Shop in a mid-high class shopping center and you will see lower prices for a bag of chips, eggs, milk, bread than you will in a poor neighborhood.
Not at the same type of corporate owned store they won't. Franchises and independent shops can do whatever they want, but corporate stores keep the same prices consistent across the country.
WRONG 100 percent wrong. I can tell you, the prices out west are way higher, at the same stores than they are east. Please, do your research, or live a life, before you start spewing information you haven't confirmed or researched.
Couldn't resist not to comment. There are two stores, same corporation/brand, both 5 minutes distance from my home. 3 out of 10 items I regularly buy have different prices.
Prices are generally higher in high income areas because the stores know the people who live there can afford it. Is it fair? Probably not. But that's usually how business works. They do it because they can. You can always choose not to buy your food there. Prices will not be sky high if the competition can offer the same product cheaper. It forces competitors to do the same. It's why for example base products such as milk costs pretty much the same everywhere. At least it does in my country.
@@madman2u Wrong, Dumdum. Prices in middle-to-affluent residential areas are LOWER than in low-income areas. Why? - Market Segmentation. -- the well-off have Options the impoverished do not enjoy. Most notably, personal vehicles: they can just drive elsewhere to find more desirable prices at the competition, whereas poor folk are usually stuck in their own neighbourhood. Retailers are aware of this and therefore raise prices of essential items in low-income communities. -- the more disposable income one has, the more one buys. Just as a wealthy person is offered more credit at attractive interest rates than a lower-income person qualifies for, Retailers chase affluent consumers' business and therefore continually offer them the best deals. Is it fair? of course not. But as you wrote, "They do it because they can". That is how business works.
One thing I have noticed, is that if you go to a store's website and add an item to your shopping cart, then leave it for a few days, you'll get emailed about a price drop, or or a % off coupon code for that store. It's a little hit or miss but it has happened a lot to me.
I tried that for a couple of stores recently, but nope, no discount. The original discount code they had given me, apparently didn’t apply to ANYTHING in my cart. I’m so disgusted I just shut it down w/o purchasing anything
That is supply and demand. It's cheaper for the US to import products and sell products. Their warehouses are larger with more volume moved. That way they can sell things for cheaper. Canada consistently is more than just the exchange rate. We also often pay more import taxes than the US.
Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone Will I guess you right. They have started selling the fire tablets that cost 50 US for 59 Canadian earlier this week. I think it was because of this RUclips comment. They saw my complaint and adjusted prices.
I love online shopping for exactly this reason. Comparing and looking around for different retailers is actually enjoyable to me, much more so than doing the same process in the real world. Also I find calling it "discrimination" a bit sensationalist, sure it doesn't seem fair but from a business perspective it's an obvious, not shady at all thing to do. Should you be aware of it? Yes. Should you be outraged about it? Not really.
actually the modern definition of "discrimination" is more sensationalist than it should be, because of hints of "racial discrimination". In English for hundreds of years, the word "discrimination" had positive connotations because it meant carefully looking at things. You're being critical of this video, but maybe you should be looking harder at human nature instead, and perhaps checking dictionary definition of "discrimination".
@@squirlmy Sure, I'm gonna look up the possible different definitions for every word instead of just relying on the meaning that's obviously intended. They used the word *because* of it's negative connotation - otherwise it wouldn't be paired with "exposing" - and the attention that generates, hence sensationalist. But thanks for the r/iamverysmart.
yes, that can happen, let's face it apple products are rather expensive and a shop would consider you a little richer than someone who doesn't. websites also have access to your device model for compatibility reasons.
Very good reporting. As a purchaser by trade. It's good advice to shop as a regular visitor and incognito. I also use Amazon to price check regular vendors, who beat Amazon about 9 out of 10 times. Bottom line is consumers are getting better prices online than they used to in a brick and mortar store. Even if your cookie jar is full.
How is it good reporting when they spent virtually no time discussing the solutions to the problem. Don't whine me for 21 minutes about a problem and then give me a 1 minute glazed over solution.
It's called transportation of goods, if an item is created in the US and you're in Canada but I'm in the US of course there going to charge you more, you live further so to cover those costs they charge you more.
Why must people keep using "Mouth breathers" as an insult? You can't help it if you have a nasal issue that makes it difficult to breathe through your nose. . .
I wouldn't call it busted so much. This is one of the few of these videos I've seen where noone is really in the wrong. Haggling has been around since forever. Noone is getting scammed in this if you ask me.
it was either a random chance or it came from something else, a website cannot access your photos. I am studying web development atm and know web programming languages and websites can't just access local files on your device. they can send a request to a browser to upload a file which will bring up a dialogue box to select a file but they can't just take it. one way it could happen is if you google searched for a lawnmower or that one specifically, Google handles a lot of ads on websites and they use the information you give them to help with that. or it was just a completely random chance.
I don't think so, there are a lot of security in place for accessing different things on mobile phones and tablets. websites can access other things on the device like microphones but almost all the big named browsers require them to get permission. I could be wrong though but I am certain that's how it is.
Jae Jae I think it means that “some” Canadians say “aboot” when Americans hear it and compare to ourselves. I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. I actually like the way it sounds when I hear other pronunciations. It’s like saying that an American from the Deep South doesn’t have a southern twang to their accent. We all do and I mean all of us. I’m from this region of the states and I recognize that this is the case. Have a great day my friend. God bless!
Brick and mortar companies do this as well... Try shopping at two different supermarkets of the same chain... Yes, yes - I am aware these are different locations and therefore have different costs - but it's actually for the purpose of making money not covering costs. It's actually even worse in a brick and mortar store because if it's your local it's more difficult to go to a different store (maybe now you have to drive instead of walk).... on a computer, you just change sites.
As a web developer I can tell you this is completely true. Why? Because I was told to vary the price on an items based on geographic location. UK and US prices were inflated. While Australia and Brazil customers weren't affected.
Consumer pricing, price discrimination- call it what you will. This is another form of the social credit system and we can thank our beloved technology for it
disabling third party cookies are not helping anymore, as most of previous cookies are stored on their servers, and they still fingerprint users using lot of our meta data information. bringing back to same page. but still its better to disable them to avoid damage.
yeah, most do keep them server side but I would like to point out the cookies are given for a reason and just keep in mind that disabling them can disable certain features. cookies can be used to automatically sign you in and remember shopping carts, like you said they are usually on the server but not always.
Also, when you are signed into Google and you're on RUclips, Amazon and Chrome ... you are going to be moved around from device to device ... what I watch on RUclips on my phone is server-side on my google account. And, even if it's another vendor (youtube & google = same) they still share this info through licensing deals. The largest, Amazon, Google, and any of your favorite online retailers are all sharing information. Your information. It's mostly meta data and retail merchandise inquires they're selling/trading, but someone more interested in the personal data for malicious reasons is what we rightfully fear. So, go ahead and turn off your cookies, that's only one out of hundreds of ways the market is tracking your meta data.
Most sellers on Amazon are third party companies and Amazon has no control over their prices. I sell on Amazon and I control the prices. Why wouldn't a company adjust their prices for maximum profit?
Was shopping online for an air B & B ..... As I had shown interest on a specific booking (and was still shopping for a number of days) each time I revisited that specific booking the price increased, I researched this phenomenon cleared my browsing history and cookies and surprise ..... went immediately back to the much lower initial price.
I never shop online, 1, my wife works in a mall and online(Amazon) is putting a lot of people out of a job. 2. For the reasons given in this article. We are in the days of every one is a criminal. That is despicable. CRIMINAL.
I just checked Allegiant Air website as im planning a vacation, and wow...the price differences and hotel suggestions are astronomically different on my phone vs my computer. Crazy!!!
LOL, their VP of communications is sure doing a mediocre job of trying to avoid answering questions. Ditto the priceline statement. Charging less sometimes is the same as charging more sometimes when the initial price is arbitrary.
This video blurs the line between the topic ( Price Discrimination ) and supply and demand. When they reference the hotels/car rental websites they show clear and concise evidence that proves their point in the video. However, later on when they start talking about Uber surge pricing and Amazon price changes. Those are clearly examples of basic supply and demand. If Uber, at any point, notices that there are more riders then drivers they will implement surge pricing to encourage drivers to go online thus meeting the demand of the peak time. When amazon algorithms detect a rise in popularity on a product they then increase the price both to make more money and as a way to control stock or get rid of stock. In conclusion. The first half of this video was excellent but they veered off topic to the point where I started to lose interest. I know the video is a year old but hey at least I explained my dislike.
Nobody is going to buy a popular and easily available item priced six times over what is available at retail just because Amazon in Canada pretends it has 'limited stock'.
So you are ok to pay 120 dollars instead of 60 dollars for cam. And it is ok for you. It won't bother you pay extra 60 bucks just because there is more demand or it is overstock or because they track your purchase habits and they only make you pay 120 while I can buy it to cheaper?
I've noticed this. I also noticed if, for example, a group of FB moms all decide to check on a book for their reading it goes up in price whether they all decide to purchase or not. Bots are predicting supply in demand so it spikes regardless if they jump or not.
@John R Let us say, you want to buy product 'x'. According to eBay best price is $10,-. All right I do trust eBay, and buy the stuff. After deal is done, eBay now offers me the same stuff for $5,-! Do you get the point?
With the webcam, they do understand the concept of supply and demand. I use to sell on Amazon. Sometimes I would sell things cheap when it wasn't selling, but when I saw it was started selling, I upped the price, that way I would make more money. I hope they teach this in Canada.
One component this segment didn't touch on is the human effort that goes into building these black box algorithms. The time and skill of talented software developers and psychologists is making Amazon millions, rather than contributing to systems that could help billions of people. That's not the fault of the laborers of course, just a question of societal priorities.
This is totally true, I spent a week on Amazon trying to decide if I want to buy a game and the price kept going down. From 24.99 to 18.99 by the end of the week. I got a good deal.
C Robinson amazon notifies you when items in your cart/bag increase or decrease in price, sites like Amazon and eBay don’t give the seller the ability to give a different price to certain customers. The decrease in price was most likely to meet the supply and demand equilibrium or the seller changing the price for whatever reason. Items change in price regularly.
thats not the scenario the video is talking about. What youre describing is the price changing over time which is normal. They arent talking about whether the prices is going up or down over time they are comparing the price from one computer to another at the exact same time.
I actually have kept items in my Amazon cart for years, and it's just as likely to go up as down, and even more likely to go up or down for a just few cents. You're on the wrong track here. Also check prices months before Christmas and afterwards. Huge numbers of item prices go up as Christmas approaches.
I'm not shopping on line, I'm not using Lyft, or Uber I'm not shopping on Graig list. I'm not supporting no Rich people, I'm all set I'm keeping my money to my self so I can live comfortably.
People have different spending power. It only makes sense for companies to take advantage of that. Coming from Norway, it's reasonable to expect that I have more spending power than the average person internationally, so I can easily pay more to keep prices down for others.
I bought a pair of shoes for 120.00. a week later I went on the same site to leave a review and they were 80. I emailed the online store and they credited back my card for 40.00. so not every company is out to rob you
Well people go to business colleges for 4 years paying 50k a year to learn to do so. If their university has sensible curriculum, no worries, the company they get a job in, will brainstorm in no time for them to have this "skill"
@Prospection Numeric took me like 5 minutes to log onto a free vpn for the very first time. Now, after experience of just having done it once, I can connect with vpn from most countries in about 30 seconds
A price is just an offer. You are under no obligation to accept it. If you want a low price, take the time to research how to get the lowest possible offer from a company.
I don't understand why people are complaining about it, in Kenya, the way you dress often dictate how much an item would cost. Sometimes even nationality will dictate the price
The reason I put up with cookies is because then I have to keep re-signing in to an infuriating degree. They make it so much harder for you to shop cookie-free!
I remember searching amazon for a new lunch box. I found one that I liked for $30 which I thought was a bit pricey at the time so I held off from buying it (I didn't even put it in my cart). Few days later, I check and miraculously the same lunch box is was going for $23.
I have noticed when I window shop, (even if I don't leave any items in the cart) take time to think about it and come back to buy, that the price is higher then it was at first. I stopped looking up items until I am sure I want to buy. I noticed that an item with great reviews has a price that is much higher than if the reviews aren't that great. I left a review one time that mentioned an added benefit to using an item that wasn't listed in the products description. I went back less than a week later and found the price had jumped more than 50%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this a proper representation of the Canadian population where it's all European participants and not one minority of any kind (African American, Hispanic, Asian). I thought this was 2020 where the media shows the minority since there's more than we think there is in the world. I guess that CBC in a nutshell
I regularly purge cookies, but there are growing disadvantages to this. Especially with software which purport to have "save to device forever" password options, but only save for a particular browser, and get wiped out with the cookie purges. I feel like I can't even trust the companies that make privacy software!
When i do purchases, i go in using my Google Chrome browser as i normally would, then I go back in using Google Chrome's Incognito mode. I found flight prices different, and when i was looking to buy a camera and software (two separate occasions), i was offered coupons (15-25% off) that I was not offered when i went in with my plain Google Chrome browser. I believe if you visit these locations a few times, they know you're interested and it may or may not provide you discounts.
On many sites, if you leave items in your cart and navigate away, they either immediately give you a pop up with a percent-off offer, or they email you one in a day or so, inviting you to come and claim your cart items at a discount.
The travel industry has played this game for decades, even before online bookings. For instance, back in the 90s when my parents still made reservations by phone, they learned to ask for their AAA discount after the initial price quote. If they mentioned their AAA membership upfront, some hotel staff would quote the regular price as the discounted price.
Other factors the video forgot to mention is the supply and demand side of things. Prices sometimes need to be marked up because the price covers a range of situations, when it needs to be discounted, when there is a overstock of a product. Storing a product cost money and sometimes companies have to take a lose when they need to get rid of something. It reminds me of those failed Amazon fire phones that Amazon had loss money making them and trying to sell them. Or when Blackberry created that 7 inch tablet that never sold well.
On 6:36 it shows 144 per night. But the 154 per (6:38) night is more expensive because it says WE HAVE 5 LEFT. Obv they will raise the price if the demand is high. It's called marketing. So, the research was done on two devices at different times from what it looks like. Though the rest if the research seemed genuine. If you notice any other things like this please lemme know.
If you spend enough time watching these marketplace vids (they are somewhat entertaining) you will see that a lot of it reach a conclusion in the vein of "we need more government regulation". Paid for by the Canadian government (CBC and all). Propaganda at its finest.
I recommend calling 411 to get hotels directly. Online you are railroaded into reservation companies that will rip you off with service fees. They never did compare the treatment of the three shoppers considering their online buying habits.
Fr, my dad is really heavy on it but I've been skeptical about it for some reason. The only time I used online shopping was for some used products (not always recommended) or a niche product like electric skateboard kits.
Wow i was wondering why even though i am canadian and i am buying from canada it still charges me US$ which is often 10-20$ more. I couldn't understand why i always pay US money even though i rarely buy from US. It's not just a couple dollars difference either, if i see something sold in canada for 12$ often the same thing is being sold in the US for 35$ i can't understand why the US charges so much more, but if i buy the US one for more money, it still gets more expensive upon money conversion so now that 35$ item become 45$ I don't know if US charges its own people that much money or if they charge outsiders extra. All i know is people from canada who physically drive to the states say everything is waay cheaper. So actually being in the states is cheaper but buying from the states is way way more expensive. So china rips you off, states is outrageously expensive, canada seems to have the best prices but i rarely find anything from canada so i'm forced to buy from other places. Is it possible there is merchandise from canada but the internet just wont let me see it? I'm sick of factoring in that every purchase i make will be nearly doubled at the checkout.
NymphetaminexXxGrrrl If you are buying something from the US, you’re being charged US dollars which your credit card company converts to CDN to take from your bank. Shipping to Canada from the USA is pricey, and you might be charged duty fees as well. It’s not that the actual price is higher
There's differences for several factors. 1. What the company you're purchasing it from got it for. 2. Import tax/tariffs 3. Currency Exchange 4. The country you're in I've been looking at purchasing a new vehicle, and even considering currency exchange, it's far, far cheaper to buy the same model in the USA than it is in Canada. But dealerships in the USA cannot sell to a Canadian, because of legal papers they signed with the automakers that if they are caught, they'll lose access those vehicles.
I purchase electronics and Car parts online and compare prices from seller in Canada sometimes locally here in my city,to US prices converted to Canadian dollars. (this includes import charges, shipping and taxes)I don't buy very expensive products but the majority of the time its still cheaper to buy in the US including all charges shipping and all.... Than buying in Canada! In my opinion its expensive buying in Canada, for the products I purchase online. Plus their are much more variety of choices/selection of buying in the US as their markets of buying and selling good are huge, compared to Canada's markets.
The opposite if you are talking about car parts, 2 times as much in CA as murkia. I export stuff to CA off and on, doesn't bother me a bit to help you guys out on the tax form either.
in the EU its far worse. How can i explain that iphone x coast exactly twice as much in the UK that it does in north america. adn i can't buy from there thru amazon. I am so pressed.
Surge pricing. I went to Bud's Gun Shop, a firearms and firearms accessories seller with a vast online presence. I was looking at a specific hunting rifle, the Savage FCP-SR 10. It was a pretty good deal, plus there was a manufacturers rebated that brought the price down even more. I went for it. I also told several folks in online areas about the great deal. A few came back and told me that wasn't the price. Sure enough, when I went back, the price was $20 more. A few days later I went to show someone else and the price was even higher. I believe that, just by me looking at the price several times as well as others responding to me and looking at the firearm, it drove the price up. I'm happy that I was first and got that great deal. It's too bad though that others weren't able to benefit the same way after I had put my word out there about the great deal.
That’s why I don’t order online anymore! Because when I tried ordering what I thought was a good deal, my credit card was denied because of wrong password, which I knew wasn’t wrong entry. Then when I went back in the price had went up but was accepted. I then caught on and cancelled the order and haven’t ordered there since!
The trippy part for me is 1.are we assumed to say its better to shop at a physical place rather than online to avoid price discrimination? And 2. If thats the case, why, even with price discrimination, is online shopping still cheaper than going to a physical location to shop?
The price might not be changing with respect to the customers, it might possibly be changing with respect to demand. More searches = higher price Basic suppy and demand rule
Why should a shopper look at price discrimination as getting ripped off, rather than as getting a discount? As pointed out in your report, someone that typically comparison shops can get a lower price than the incognito price. Regarding Amazon, Walmart, maybe others. Never leave items in your cart as "save for later". If you do, then pay attention to any price change notices, or keep track of the price history yourself. Sometimes they will trickle up as long as it stays in your cart. Why should an only 2 year old book keep going up 27¢ every time I access their site? Another tip. If you have a brick-and-mortar store nearby, you can use online prices to get better deals at the local store. Example 1: I shop pet products across 3-4 online sites to get the best overall price when purchasing. Factor in any shipping and other fees. Make a printout of your cart before actually buying. Take the printout to your local store. Sometimes (but not often) the shelf price is actually lower than the best online prices. If not, ask the store if they will beat (not just match) the online price. Since you are physically in the store, ready to buy right now, they know they will lose the sale to an online retailer if they don't lower the price. They are willing to make a lower profit on this sale, rather than lose the sale completely. Works almost every time for franchise stores and "individual stores locally owned and operated". Example 2: Again, with your printout in hand. If you regularly shop at a local store and use their "club card", they know your spending history at that specific store. Simply ask for a specific discount. On something like an $80.00 total bill I’ll say "too much, take $5.00 off". Usually they will. Has worked not only at pet supply stores, also at grocery stores (they really don't want to re-shelf all your items), hardware stores, etc. If you don't ask, then you can't get. They can only say "no" and you've lost nothing to try.
…I didn’t tell the DNA testing firms my nationality which I knew beforehand and they were spot on…and they were also able to match me up with my relatives whom I know to be my relatives and my own children.
Noticed this years ago. Three of us tried booking a trip to Europe on our individual phones. We all got completely different prices. And, it fluctuated the more we searched. Use this knowledge to your advantage.
I've noticed this especially with hotel rooms. They also often charge you a higher daily rate when booking multiple nights as opposed to one night at a time. Sometimes it's cheaper to book through the hotel, sometimes it isn't. I've never noticed this as much with plane tickets.
I guess I never thought that everybody doesn't know about in-store mark-ups. from my experience in working in retail, I understand that most basic retail mark-ups start at 40% of purchase cost from the distributor (before sale prices). the mark-up is lower for groceries though (closer to 10-20%, from what I understand, they make more on bulk rather than per item). mark-ups can also be higher if the item is considered"high fashion", for example if you go buy a coach leather bag, rather than one made by a local artisan, more likely you're gonna have a higher mark-up at coach b/c it's "high fashion". ...these are the reasons i almost never buy sometime not on sale, unless i really need it, and I don't by "high fashion" items.
As a software developer I do want to note that cookies are not some evil invention. They are a necessary component to maintaining a comprehensive user experience for the user. Along with things like server side sessions and url rewriting it is just one of many tools used to make modern websites.
At a movie theater seniors play less... that’s like saying at a zoo the price was cheaper for a 3 year old then the parent. Now that’s price discrimination I don’t think so.
Location can affect price. Use a VPN and book an airline ticket, but set VPN in the country you want to go! Can save you thousands in some cases!
bigo93 thank you!
VPN is illegal. It's not allowed in some certain countries.
@@girlbossfromscratch lol wut
@@girlbossfromscratch
No its not are you dumb lmao
@@dustinjames1268 Are YOU dumb? It is illegal in some countries and against terms with some ISPs in others. Like Russia, China, Turkey, Iran and the list goes on. You must be new to the internet.. can't even perform a simple google search on something you clearly know nothing about. Sad.
The older lady with the glasses is never shopping online again. 😂😂😂
hahahhaha
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haha she's not having it
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Nothing wrong with that, I do not shop on-line very much and it's all this on-line shopping causing so many stores to close making ghost towns in some cities, not good, not attractive, a lot of the bums, homeless start to inhabit or hang around these empty areas so if you think all this on-line tech stuff is so great just wait & see the end result.
The problem with just using incognito mode, is you still have the same IP address. You should also try to combine VPNs or proxies if you really want to play around with prices.
Richard's World Traveler, great advice.
Richard's World Traveler Thanks
How do i do that?
Richard's World Traveler How do we use VPN's?? For those of us who are not computer savvy how do we know what to do or how to use a VPN?
VPN, adblock, do-not-track and a bowser that has tracking disabled. I do it all.
I'm over 3 years late, but I've been watching so many marketplace episodes and they're so good, this is fantastic journalism and research!
No wonder the books I needed for school would keep changing when I would search on Amazon for them. They would go from really cheap to super expensive to super cheap again, and I would get so confused, like “wasn’t that price different a couple of hours ago??”
Yes! Just typed something about this. Sketchy.
this is such an eye opener. i know that cookies do targeted ads but i didnt know about this price change!!
great journalism!
r u kidding me ? u didnt know it ?
how old are you ? 10 ?
Big fan of your art 💓
+black horse Don't get cocky just because you know it. Many people, even those in their 20s might not know about this. It could be because it's not their interest, or they just literally have less time to find out and learn this thing.
ArtofDylan I thought this was common knowledge
+Rowan Martineau just tried it, i got a $200 dollar difference. Did you do it right?
Man, something about this video feels like it's from 2008
Canada is about 10 years behind
@@jcman240 BOTTOM LINE LOOK FOR A DEAL ANYWAY AND COMPARE
lol probably the fact that the content isn't just made for clicks on some site
@@monetcache Regarding click-bait these CBC segments are awesome. The editing, which I think is what the other guy mentioned is less polished than we're used to now from internet creators.
@@jcman240 10 years behind you say we were the first legalize LBGTQ in North America and legalize marijuana
Pricing psychology is deceptive for many reasons.
At the end of the day, price is what ever the customer is willing to pay.
Exactly.That is why is useful to learn about stuff and the real value in how it is made and how it is marketed. When you know the actual market value of something you don't go blind and pay the first price you are shown.
actually there's a point at which it's what the vendor is willing to part with, (and stay in business). It's not a one-way street. It sounds like you're making apologies for vendor price hikes, when its equally morally valid to let consumers know they can search and get lower prices. You seem to be stepping back to get a better perspective, but not stepping back far enough!
it's still super dirty that the price tag changes from customer to customer for the same item 😕
That is so true I mean who determines how much a brand new iphone should be worth right at the end of the day price is sentimental
I know this channel is in canada, but I tried it here in the states for different hotels and cars in my area. The same techniques they used too. And I got sometimes 40% off of a 4 star hotel room on my phone but on my laptop there was no discount for the same thing. If I ever want to rent a car or book a hotel stay, I'm definitely using this technique again to save more money.
Because its all the same corporations?
Use Honey !
@@arionnamichelle honey has never worked for me :(
@@arionnamichelle Honey is good. But nothing is free. I have seen partnerships between Honey and a local business in my country. Honey gave me a coupon of 10% off. when I double checked the local business website they actually got a 20% winter sale coupon active. So I think honey makes money this way because you are happy with 10% off but you could get a bigger discount from the local business site.
The states?
Now this is the type of journalism that helps inform people. Great work!
There needs to be laws in place that make it illegal for companies to sell data
almost every country around the world has privacy laws and most of them get you to disclose potential privacy concerns one way or another. if you are in dought about any privacy concerns read their privacy policy and it will usually explain it. companies don't have to have one by law and I doesn't mean they follow it to the letter but if they don't and someone finds out it could mean big trouble from loss of business and in some cases law related problems. this video was talking about cookies though which is a bit different, they are used as a way for sites to remember things about you and don't need to be sold. they are on your computer and are designed to be handed back to websites they give them out.
Dude, you agreed to their Terms of Service...
not for websites, only applications. websites have policies that protect your rights as an individual but most don't have terms of service.
There is no set "price" for a room in hospitality, everyone in the industry knows that. There's dozens of possible prices for a single specific hotel room, in any given night. All those "lowest" price guarantees aren't guarantees at all if you read the fine print. No one every reads the fine print. You get a "room" for 50% off, then your probably not going to get what's shown in the picture because you wont read the fine print.
your facebook messanger tracks all your browsing history duhhhhhhh
I always notice when Amazon change thier prices. If you leave things in your cart for a while the website will notify you. Since I do online shop I will go into incognito mode to compare prices. That is a good idea
ingocnito wont change much, the difference they got was rng, you ip is still very very visible to the website, and you isp can see what your doing, incognito is only good for stopping chrome from saving it to your personal history, everyone else looking from the outside will still see what your looking at, you just dont have to delete your history.
@@bored588 use a VPN. You can hide that way lol
@@Anna-tc6rz pretty much the only real option
Just install Tor and user a free VPN if you want. But Tor completely changes ur IP.
VM all day
Airlines have been doing similar ever since tickets became available for online purchasing. One time I looked for a flight on the company's own website, went to another company's website to check theirs, returned to the original, and the price had gone up considerably. This occurred within a matter of minutes.
They tracked your digital footprint and discovered that you are not a loyal customer. Therefore, punished you by raising the price of the listing which you returned back on after browsing on their competition.
I am more interested in ads that pop up on my phone from conversations that were had in my private residence , no searches or Cookies involved
chubberone - I’ve had the same thing happen multiple times.
things that gather personal data on you also advertise stuff to you from people nearby
Probably should look at Edward Snowden’s vids. As a developer, he’s right.
In most instances this is actually inverse of what actually happened. Certain color's, shapes, words and so on can trigger you to think about certain things. For example if I ask you to spell "fork" then ask what you eat your cereal with, there's a strong chance you will tell me fork. It's similar to saying spell "slop" what do you do at a green light? people usually say "stop" when you actually hit the gas, not the brake at a green light lol. At some point in the day it's more likely that you were thinking about something from earlier in the day.. deja vu isn't just a strip club ya know. Because I have tried, repeatedly to get conversations I have had to lead to 1 single add and not once has it happened. And I mean I am surrounded by things with mic's like crazy. Multiple phones, echo's and google home. Just never once have I been able to pull an obscure topic out of thin air and have it magically result in an add for it. I mean sure if I wanna dumb what I say down I may likely find something kinda sorta close but not really. Like I could say the word "movies" maybe 1.5k times and then theres an add for a movie that just got released in a thetre that same day but the add wouldnt have came up because I said movie, it would have came up because it was release day. But even that, hasn't actually happened to me... im just sure its possible to have that kinda coincidence.
How about thoughts??? Seriously !!!
Prices on hotel rooms, airlines etc. have always been very volatile and subject to change. You also need to see how price discrimination exists in more solid retail goods.
Exactly. I've worked at multiple major retail chains. You don't see it, but most if not all do a mass price change at least once a week, and will continue to change prices on items here and there every day, and those prices aren't always the same store to store.
That Expedia VP said possibly the worst thing she could have...
Laws need to catch up to this, really.
laws need to catch up on a lot of things to do with the internet
There already is a law for this, supply and demand.
We have so many laws all many,
As a programmer I'm confident that lawmakers would make a thousand times bigger chaos if they tried to control the internet and technology. They simply can't monitor every single website's code and what it does. It cannot be done. On the other hand they would introduce laws that would prevent the natural competition in the industry and would slow economic growth.
A better idea in my opinion would be for tech blogs and tech journalist to draw attention to this problem and the customers then can choose to force the company of changing by not using their sites. I think the only way of controlling the internet is simply transparency and being a conscious user. Laws only make a mess of technology.
There is nothing wrong with this really. If you don't like the price - get it somewhere else. In fact people AGREE to buy something at that price. That's it. Is it illegal for stuff to be more expensive in one physical store than in another of the same franchise? Because it's exactly the same thing. People have different purchasing power in different places. There are also different costs associated with serving customers in different places. If it can be done in any better way - a company would appear and prosper offering the lowest prices overall. But there isn't. Because such a company wouldn't survive.
You get lower prices JUST BECAUSE somebody agrees to pay a higher price. You all think you're getting the best deal, and the FACT is that if there was any other convenient way to get a lower price, people would do it.
Simply compare the prices. Hotels - compare Booking (I had horrible experience with them, will never ever book from them again, but I use them for browsing and reading reviews), Expedia, finding hotel information on Google Maps like their website or phone number, going to the website and seeing other booking methods, calling them to ask for a cheaper price if available, etc. This way I got to book stuff at HALF the price compared to booking sites, and dealing directly with the hotel means handling all troubles directly, and not through impotent useless third party "customer service" that only takes your time, and the most power they have is say "sorry".
What the heck do you think Facebook does with private info some freely share multiple times a day about habits, families and things they like?
sell how u think zuck has billions lmao
They obviously clone our minds into robot bodies for further research.
Facebook is also evil. Zark Motherboard is evil
If something (like FB) is free to use....then YOU'RE the product.
Always remember this.
It is the same as the fact that virtually everyone sitting in economy on the same flight has paid a different price for a seat.
Not really- The level of comfort and luxury is what you're paying for in a flight.
this is true, i once paid like 20 dollars for a return domestic flight, and i heard the person beside me paid 6 times and that is only one way.
I shop mostly on Amazon, but I have discovered how to play the system by adding things to my wish list and will watch if and when the price goes down. The market is always changing, and another way to shop online to avoid prices changing based on who you are is to shop online at your local library. The more that people do that, the more all over the map the prices are, and someone can base their purchase on pricing alone. I have always gotten a better deal not signing into my Amazon account from my own computer at home for some odd reason, and I have bought from Amazon as a guest at the library to see if that significantly changed price points. in some cases it did, and others not so much. Luck of the draw.
17 minutes into this video and I realize they've been going this same thing for years at shopping centers. Shop in a mid-high class shopping center and you will see lower prices for a bag of chips, eggs, milk, bread than you will in a poor neighborhood.
Not at the same type of corporate owned store they won't. Franchises and independent shops can do whatever they want, but corporate stores keep the same prices consistent across the country.
WRONG 100 percent wrong. I can tell you, the prices out west are way higher, at the same stores than they are east. Please, do your research, or live a life, before you start spewing information you haven't confirmed or researched.
Couldn't resist not to comment. There are two stores, same corporation/brand, both 5 minutes distance from my home. 3 out of 10 items I regularly buy have different prices.
Prices are generally higher in high income areas because the stores know the people who live there can afford it. Is it fair? Probably not. But that's usually how business works. They do it because they can. You can always choose not to buy your food there.
Prices will not be sky high if the competition can offer the same product cheaper. It forces competitors to do the same. It's why for example base products such as milk costs pretty much the same everywhere. At least it does in my country.
@@madman2u Wrong, Dumdum. Prices in middle-to-affluent residential areas are LOWER than in low-income areas. Why? - Market Segmentation.
-- the well-off have Options the impoverished do not enjoy. Most notably, personal vehicles: they can just drive elsewhere to find more desirable prices at the competition, whereas poor folk are usually stuck in their own neighbourhood. Retailers are aware of this and therefore raise prices of essential items in low-income communities.
-- the more disposable income one has, the more one buys. Just as a wealthy person is offered more credit at attractive interest rates than a lower-income person qualifies for, Retailers chase affluent consumers' business and therefore continually offer them the best deals.
Is it fair? of course not. But as you wrote, "They do it because they can". That is how business works.
One thing I have noticed, is that if you go to a store's website and add an item to your shopping cart, then leave it for a few days, you'll get emailed about a price drop, or
or a % off coupon code for that store. It's a little hit or miss but it has happened a lot to me.
I learned eBay and mercari do that allot and I love it.
I tried that for a couple of stores recently, but nope, no discount. The original discount code they had given me, apparently didn’t apply to ANYTHING in my cart. I’m so disgusted I just shut it down w/o purchasing anything
Marketplace you need to do price comparison between Amazon US and Canada. Huge price differences even after dollar differences taken into account.
Cs go giveaway Guy 130 dollar price difference is not just shipping. Check price on Amazon for Kindle Oasis ereader sim model on both sites.
Send them the idea! I'd love to see this!
That is supply and demand. It's cheaper for the US to import products and sell products. Their warehouses are larger with more volume moved. That way they can sell things for cheaper. Canada consistently is more than just the exchange rate. We also often pay more import taxes than the US.
Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone Will I guess you right. They have started selling the fire tablets that cost 50 US for 59 Canadian earlier this week. I think it was because of this RUclips comment. They saw my complaint and adjusted prices.
Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone I was joking, but seriously I'm just happy they priced something fairly.
The part with Amazon though is the same item can come from different suppliers, hence the pricing changes.
It is an one brand. Only one supplier can produce one brand.
I love online shopping for exactly this reason. Comparing and looking around for different retailers is actually enjoyable to me, much more so than doing the same process in the real world. Also I find calling it "discrimination" a bit sensationalist, sure it doesn't seem fair but from a business perspective it's an obvious, not shady at all thing to do. Should you be aware of it? Yes. Should you be outraged about it? Not really.
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actually the modern definition of "discrimination" is more sensationalist than it should be, because of hints of "racial discrimination". In English for hundreds of years, the word "discrimination" had positive connotations because it meant carefully looking at things. You're being critical of this video, but maybe you should be looking harder at human nature instead, and perhaps checking dictionary definition of "discrimination".
@@squirlmy Sure, I'm gonna look up the possible different definitions for every word instead of just relying on the meaning that's obviously intended. They used the word *because* of it's negative connotation - otherwise it wouldn't be paired with "exposing" - and the attention that generates, hence sensationalist.
But thanks for the r/iamverysmart.
There was a similar news story of customer who used Apple products to shop would get charge more than those using a lower end product.
yes, that can happen, let's face it apple products are rather expensive and a shop would consider you a little richer than someone who doesn't. websites also have access to your device model for compatibility reasons.
Yeah apparently when you called to book a hotel using it they would quote higher prices than when you called via say your landline
Time to bring out the old blackberry then I guess
Well yea, they know apple owners are mindless purchasers that aren't looking for a good deal to begin with.
because apple users like paying more, it makes them feel elite. I would like to put my iPhone under my truck tire.
Very good reporting. As a purchaser by trade. It's good advice to shop as a regular visitor and incognito. I also use Amazon to price check regular vendors, who beat Amazon about 9 out of 10 times. Bottom line is consumers are getting better prices online than they used to in a brick and mortar store. Even if your cookie jar is full.
How is it good reporting when they spent virtually no time discussing the solutions to the problem. Don't whine me for 21 minutes about a problem and then give me a 1 minute glazed over solution.
It's called transportation of goods, if an item is created in the US and you're in Canada but I'm in the US of course there going to charge you more, you live further so to cover those costs they charge you more.
Tom Mclain I have noticed that prices are higher while incognito is on.
@@DunkinNugget how do you transport a hotel room or car rental?
This video should be dedicated to the mouth breathers who are unconcerned about online privacy because they "have nothing to hide."
Why must people keep using "Mouth breathers" as an insult? You can't help it if you have a nasal issue that makes it difficult to breathe through your nose. . .
because they have nothing else to insult with considering they are usually paranoid basement dwellers or script kiddies.
Whats wrong with breathing through your mouth i thought that was a natural thing ? wtf
Only if you're a troglodyte.
First - yes breathing from mouth is unhealthy, secondly they use this insult because it was used in popular tv series called stranger things.
14:40, men you have to admire that dedication to still make a commercial even when she knew that she was busted.
I wouldn't call it busted so much. This is one of the few of these videos I've seen where noone is really in the wrong. Haggling has been around since forever. Noone is getting scammed in this if you ask me.
I had no idea. Now, THIS is journalism. Working on a solution to this problem as we speak.
I drove to my local McDonald's and ordered a Happy Meal.... now my web browser is full of kids toys.
Did you pay with a card, or cash? Cards allow personal tracking systems
Maybe you bought a white van.
big price differences at macdonalds within one mile of each other.
because your phone tracks you down when you are moving on the road......... so it knows where you went to and shows the ads later
it's your i-phone, booby!
I took a picture of a lawnmower here in the US at Home Depot...and I got ads in websites for that lawnmower...very strange
KMike68Camaro wow that's crazy
it was either a random chance or it came from something else, a website cannot access your photos. I am studying web development atm and know web programming languages and websites can't just access local files on your device. they can send a request to a browser to upload a file which will bring up a dialogue box to select a file but they can't just take it. one way it could happen is if you google searched for a lawnmower or that one specifically, Google handles a lot of ads on websites and they use the information you give them to help with that. or it was just a completely random chance.
NiteOwl I was more worried about when I was talking about the lawnmower while I was taking the pic but I did leave that out of my comment
I don't think so, there are a lot of security in place for accessing different things on mobile phones and tablets. websites can access other things on the device like microphones but almost all the big named browsers require them to get permission. I could be wrong though but I am certain that's how it is.
Strange indeed. Did you upload the lawnmower photo?
I'm just here to hear someone say 'aboot'
SBEFOREHAHAN wth is that supposed to mean?!
Jae Jae it's how Canadian's are portrayed as saying 'about'. I mean, the vast majority of us don't. But they think we do.
Andrea Ferreira yes i am Canadian & aware of that.
SBEFOREHAHAN LMAAAOOOOOO
Jae Jae I think it means that “some” Canadians say “aboot” when Americans hear it and compare to ourselves. I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. I actually like the way it sounds when I hear other pronunciations. It’s like saying that an American from the Deep South doesn’t have a southern twang to their accent. We all do and I mean all of us. I’m from this region of the states and I recognize that this is the case. Have a great day my friend. God bless!
Brick and mortar companies do this as well... Try shopping at two different supermarkets of the same chain... Yes, yes - I am aware these are different locations and therefore have different costs - but it's actually for the purpose of making money not covering costs. It's actually even worse in a brick and mortar store because if it's your local it's more difficult to go to a different store (maybe now you have to drive instead of walk).... on a computer, you just change sites.
As a web developer I can tell you this is completely true. Why? Because I was told to vary the price on an items based on geographic location. UK and US prices were inflated. While Australia and Brazil customers weren't affected.
Consumer pricing, price discrimination- call it what you will. This is another form of the social credit system and we can thank our beloved technology for it
disabling third party cookies are not helping anymore, as most of previous cookies are stored on their servers, and they still fingerprint users using lot of our meta data information. bringing back to same page.
but still its better to disable them to avoid damage.
yeah, most do keep them server side but I would like to point out the cookies are given for a reason and just keep in mind that disabling them can disable certain features. cookies can be used to automatically sign you in and remember shopping carts, like you said they are usually on the server but not always.
Sunil Sathyanarayan but as shown on this episode, sometimes WITH the cookies on, they got a better price than Incognito
Also, when you are signed into Google and you're on RUclips, Amazon and Chrome ... you are going to be moved around from device to device ... what I watch on RUclips on my phone is server-side on my google account. And, even if it's another vendor (youtube & google = same) they still share this info through licensing deals. The largest, Amazon, Google, and any of your favorite online retailers are all sharing information. Your information. It's mostly meta data and retail merchandise inquires they're selling/trading, but someone more interested in the personal data for malicious reasons is what we rightfully fear.
So, go ahead and turn off your cookies, that's only one out of hundreds of ways the market is tracking your meta data.
Disabling cookies means a lot of websites will not load.
Get a VPN
Most sellers on Amazon are third party companies and Amazon has no control over their prices. I sell on Amazon and I control the prices. Why wouldn't a company adjust their prices for maximum profit?
Was shopping online for an air B & B ..... As I had shown interest on a specific booking (and was still shopping for a number of days) each time I revisited that specific booking the price increased, I researched this phenomenon cleared my browsing history and cookies and surprise ..... went immediately back to the much lower initial price.
I never shop online, 1, my wife works in a mall and online(Amazon) is putting a lot of people out of a job. 2. For the reasons given in this article. We are in the days of every one is a criminal. That is despicable. CRIMINAL.
I just checked Allegiant Air website as im planning a vacation, and wow...the price differences and hotel suggestions are astronomically different on my phone vs my computer. Crazy!!!
acewings221 On computer they were cheaper or ???
LOL, their VP of communications is sure doing a mediocre job of trying to avoid answering questions.
Ditto the priceline statement. Charging less sometimes is the same as charging more sometimes when the initial price is arbitrary.
This video blurs the line between the topic ( Price Discrimination ) and supply and demand. When they reference the hotels/car rental websites they show clear and concise evidence that proves their point in the video. However, later on when they start talking about Uber surge pricing and Amazon price changes. Those are clearly examples of basic supply and demand. If Uber, at any point, notices that there are more riders then drivers they will implement surge pricing to encourage drivers to go online thus meeting the demand of the peak time. When amazon algorithms detect a rise in popularity on a product they then increase the price both to make more money and as a way to control stock or get rid of stock. In conclusion. The first half of this video was excellent but they veered off topic to the point where I started to lose interest. I know the video is a year old but hey at least I explained my dislike.
I hear ya. In Amazon's case, those price changes can be a result of many different suppliers. It's not as though they manufacture each item.
Nobody is going to buy a popular and easily available item priced six times over what is available at retail just because Amazon in Canada pretends it has 'limited stock'.
So you are ok to pay 120 dollars instead of 60 dollars for cam. And it is ok for you. It won't bother you pay extra 60 bucks just because there is more demand or it is overstock or because they track your purchase habits and they only make you pay 120 while I can buy it to cheaper?
get another drink while its rush hour. once you finish, then price comes down.
@@tamilyatamilya No silly. You won't be able to find it for 60 when it's 120. That's the point. The price is 120 everywhere.
I've noticed this. I also noticed if, for example, a group of FB moms all decide to check on a book for their reading it goes up in price whether they all decide to purchase or not. Bots are predicting supply in demand so it spikes regardless if they jump or not.
This video has changed my life. Now I intentionally follow the prices on Amazon and wait until I really get the deal.
The best thing is to book directly with hotels. They give you the best deals.
What I have experienced on eBay: after having made a deal, I was offered the same article for much less! This really pisses me off!
@John R Let us say, you want to buy product 'x'. According to eBay best price is $10,-. All right I do trust eBay, and buy the stuff. After deal is done, eBay now offers me the same stuff for $5,-! Do you get the point?
With the webcam, they do understand the concept of supply and demand. I use to sell on Amazon. Sometimes I would sell things cheap when it wasn't selling, but when I saw it was started selling, I upped the price, that way I would make more money. I hope they teach this in Canada.
The medium-pink colour of the vehicle shown on-screen in this video near the ~16:00 mark/timestamp is very nice!
One component this segment didn't touch on is the human effort that goes into building these black box algorithms. The time and skill of talented software developers and psychologists is making Amazon millions, rather than contributing to systems that could help billions of people. That's not the fault of the laborers of course, just a question of societal priorities.
This is totally true, I spent a week on Amazon trying to decide if I want to buy a game and the price kept going down. From 24.99 to 18.99 by the end of the week. I got a good deal.
C Robinson amazon notifies you when items in your cart/bag increase or decrease in price, sites like Amazon and eBay don’t give the seller the ability to give a different price to certain customers. The decrease in price was most likely to meet the supply and demand equilibrium or the seller changing the price for whatever reason. Items change in price regularly.
thats not the scenario the video is talking about. What youre describing is the price changing over time which is normal. They arent talking about whether the prices is going up or down over time they are comparing the price from one computer to another at the exact same time.
I actually have kept items in my Amazon cart for years, and it's just as likely to go up as down, and even more likely to go up or down for a just few cents. You're on the wrong track here. Also check prices months before Christmas and afterwards. Huge numbers of item prices go up as Christmas approaches.
You're supposed to get better deals if you shop in the middle of the night.
Also, prices go UP from Thanksgiving to Christmas.
I'm not shopping on line,
I'm not using Lyft, or Uber
I'm not shopping on Graig list.
I'm not supporting no Rich people, I'm all set I'm keeping my money to my self so I can live comfortably.
Dulcelina Cabral *Graig List*
People have different spending power. It only makes sense for companies to take advantage of that. Coming from Norway, it's reasonable to expect that I have more spending power than the average person internationally, so I can easily pay more to keep prices down for others.
I bought a pair of shoes for 120.00. a week later I went on the same site to leave a review and they were 80. I emailed the online store and they credited back my card for 40.00. so not every company is out to rob you
MP: "That's price discrimination."
Expedia VP: *Watch me spin 'price discrimination' into nonsense.*
Well people go to business colleges for 4 years paying 50k a year to learn to do so. If their university has sensible curriculum, no worries, the company they get a job in, will brainstorm in no time for them to have this "skill"
use a VPN to make it look you are from another country and play around with it untill you get the best price, thats what i do.
What's a VPN?
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This is like shopping in the store on different days of the same week.
Except they were all there, at the same day, at the same time, there is nothing in common.
@@MrLelopes I'm you're first upvote, the OP gets over 40. smh
A price is just an offer. You are under no obligation to accept it. If you want a low price, take the time to research how to get the lowest possible offer from a company.
I don't understand why people are complaining about it, in Kenya, the way you dress often dictate how much an item would cost. Sometimes even nationality will dictate the price
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Now I have to watch the damn video again because I missed that.
The reason I put up with cookies is because then I have to keep re-signing in to an infuriating degree. They make it so much harder for you to shop cookie-free!
Just go shopping the old fashions way then you not have a online shopping cookie problem lol
If you go to the mall to shop they have cookies too - Mrs Fields cookies 😎
stop buying unnecessary crap
Inderjit Singh what a tip everything is unnecessary except food, water and shelter
Lol. Don’t travel! However, I get your point. Consumerism is at an all time high.
And don't have any fun in your life whatsoever and you'll be fine. What a good tip!
Any unecessary crap, said on said from a computer on youtube.
Dopamine Serotonin u don't need to buy stuff to have fun
I remember searching amazon for a new lunch box. I found one that I liked for $30 which I thought was a bit pricey at the time so I held off from buying it (I didn't even put it in my cart). Few days later, I check and miraculously the same lunch box is was going for $23.
I have noticed when I window shop, (even if I don't leave any items in the cart) take time to think about it and come back to buy, that the price is higher then it was at first. I stopped looking up items until I am sure I want to buy.
I noticed that an item with great reviews has a price that is much higher than if the reviews aren't that great.
I left a review one time that mentioned an added benefit to using an item that wasn't listed in the products description. I went back less than a week later and found the price had jumped more than 50%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top notch work
Grats to the reporter and crew
Is this a proper representation of the Canadian population where it's all European participants and not one minority of any kind (African American, Hispanic, Asian).
I thought this was 2020 where the media shows the minority since there's more than we think there is in the world. I guess that CBC in a nutshell
@@felipebarros323 It was 2017 LOL
Them walking through the office together like some possy or gang has me rolling 🤣🤣
They brought their online history. I wouldn't qualify for this show
I regularly purge cookies, but there are growing disadvantages to this. Especially with software which purport to have "save to device forever" password options, but only save for a particular browser, and get wiped out with the cookie purges. I feel like I can't even trust the companies that make privacy software!
When i do purchases, i go in using my Google Chrome browser as i normally would, then I go back in using Google Chrome's Incognito mode.
I found flight prices different, and when i was looking to buy a camera and software (two separate occasions), i was offered coupons (15-25% off) that I was not offered when i went in with my plain Google Chrome browser. I believe if you visit these locations a few times, they know you're interested and it may or may not provide you discounts.
On many sites, if you leave items in your cart and navigate away, they either immediately give you a pop up with a percent-off offer, or they email you one in a day or so, inviting you to come and claim your cart items at a discount.
Amazon does a great 👍 job showing on their site comparison prices for the same product. It’s always about buyers beware in the capitalist society.
Why go incognito if you can let them see your a haggler and always get the lower prices? According to this video.
2:02 when the teacher ask how my day was or to do a school survey 🤣😂💀😭
The travel industry has played this game for decades, even before online bookings.
For instance, back in the 90s when my parents still made reservations by phone, they learned to ask for their AAA discount after the initial price quote. If they mentioned their AAA membership upfront, some hotel staff would quote the regular price as the discounted price.
Other factors the video forgot to mention is the supply and demand side of things. Prices sometimes need to be marked up because the price covers a range of situations, when it needs to be discounted, when there is a overstock of a product. Storing a product cost money and sometimes companies have to take a lose when they need to get rid of something. It reminds me of those failed Amazon fire phones that Amazon had loss money making them and trying to sell them. Or when Blackberry created that 7 inch tablet that never sold well.
These people are as smart as a potato when it comes to incognito mode
for shopping on amazon use chrome extension called keepa.
I booked a flight to Nigeria using a proxy tunneling through Ghana and got cheap plane tickets lol. Just learn to play the game.
On 6:36 it shows 144 per night. But the 154 per (6:38) night is more expensive because it says WE HAVE 5 LEFT. Obv they will raise the price if the demand is high. It's called marketing. So, the research was done on two devices at different times from what it looks like. Though the rest if the research seemed genuine. If you notice any other things like this please lemme know.
Also the shopping in that market was supported by Zero evidence. Very unconvincing!
If you spend enough time watching these marketplace vids (they are somewhat entertaining) you will see that a lot of it reach a conclusion in the vein of "we need more government regulation". Paid for by the Canadian government (CBC and all). Propaganda at its finest.
I recommend calling 411 to get hotels directly. Online you are railroaded into reservation companies that will rip you off with service fees.
They never did compare the treatment of the three shoppers considering their online buying habits.
What's with that person with binoculars in 11:15
I don’t shop online, unless it’s something I can’t get in person.
Fr, my dad is really heavy on it but I've been skeptical about it for some reason. The only time I used online shopping was for some used products (not always recommended) or a niche product like electric skateboard kits.
Have fun paying more
@@the1onlyteagro it's about the same price, plus we get to see stuff in person.
Not really, I work on cars regularly and pay 1/4 of the price online compared to going to the auto parts stores.
Online is cheaper and more convenient. Just check different websites.
Wow i was wondering why even though i am canadian and i am buying from canada it still charges me US$ which is often 10-20$ more. I couldn't understand why i always pay US money even though i rarely buy from US. It's not just a couple dollars difference either, if i see something sold in canada for 12$ often the same thing is being sold in the US for 35$ i can't understand why the US charges so much more, but if i buy the US one for more money, it still gets more expensive upon money conversion so now that 35$ item become 45$ I don't know if US charges its own people that much money or if they charge outsiders extra. All i know is people from canada who physically drive to the states say everything is waay cheaper. So actually being in the states is cheaper but buying from the states is way way more expensive. So china rips you off, states is outrageously expensive, canada seems to have the best prices but i rarely find anything from canada so i'm forced to buy from other places. Is it possible there is merchandise from canada but the internet just wont let me see it? I'm sick of factoring in that every purchase i make will be nearly doubled at the checkout.
NymphetaminexXxGrrrl If you are buying something from the US, you’re being charged US dollars which your credit card company converts to CDN to take from your bank.
Shipping to Canada from the USA is pricey, and you might be charged duty fees as well.
It’s not that the actual price is higher
There's differences for several factors.
1. What the company you're purchasing it from got it for.
2. Import tax/tariffs
3. Currency Exchange
4. The country you're in
I've been looking at purchasing a new vehicle, and even considering currency exchange, it's far, far cheaper to buy the same model in the USA than it is in Canada. But dealerships in the USA cannot sell to a Canadian, because of legal papers they signed with the automakers that if they are caught, they'll lose access those vehicles.
I purchase electronics and Car parts online and compare prices from seller in Canada sometimes locally here in my city,to US prices converted to Canadian dollars. (this includes import charges, shipping and taxes)I don't buy very expensive products but the majority of the time its still cheaper to buy in the US including all charges shipping and all.... Than buying in Canada!
In my opinion its expensive buying in Canada, for the products I purchase online.
Plus their are much more variety of choices/selection of buying in the US as their markets of buying and selling good are huge, compared to Canada's markets.
The opposite if you are talking about car parts, 2 times as much in CA as murkia.
I export stuff to CA off and on, doesn't bother me a bit to help you guys out on the tax form either.
in the EU its far worse. How can i explain that iphone x coast exactly twice as much in the UK that it does in north america. adn i can't buy from there thru amazon. I am so pressed.
Surge pricing. I went to Bud's Gun Shop, a firearms and firearms accessories seller with a vast online presence. I was looking at a specific hunting rifle, the Savage FCP-SR 10. It was a pretty good deal, plus there was a manufacturers rebated that brought the price down even more. I went for it. I also told several folks in online areas about the great deal. A few came back and told me that wasn't the price. Sure enough, when I went back, the price was $20 more. A few days later I went to show someone else and the price was even higher. I believe that, just by me looking at the price several times as well as others responding to me and looking at the firearm, it drove the price up. I'm happy that I was first and got that great deal. It's too bad though that others weren't able to benefit the same way after I had put my word out there about the great deal.
That’s why I don’t order online anymore! Because when I tried ordering what I thought was a good deal, my credit card was denied because of wrong password, which I knew wasn’t wrong entry. Then when I went back in the price had went up but was accepted. I then caught on and cancelled the order and haven’t ordered there since!
The trippy part for me is 1.are we assumed to say its better to shop at a physical place rather than online to avoid price discrimination? And 2. If thats the case, why, even with price discrimination, is online shopping still cheaper than going to a physical location to shop?
The price might not be changing with respect to the customers, it might possibly be changing with respect to demand.
More searches = higher price
Basic suppy and demand rule
ikr? "Wow, everyone saw our ad, and want to go to Panama! YAY😁!!!". Bound to have a SLIGHT impact.✌💗
That’s the most simple part of shopping but companies are also using your data
Why should a shopper look at price discrimination as getting ripped off, rather than as getting a discount? As pointed out in your report, someone that typically comparison shops can get a lower price than the incognito price.
Regarding Amazon, Walmart, maybe others. Never leave items in your cart as "save for later". If you do, then pay attention to any price change notices, or keep track of the price history yourself. Sometimes they will trickle up as long as it stays in your cart. Why should an only 2 year old book keep going up 27¢ every time I access their site?
Another tip. If you have a brick-and-mortar store nearby, you can use online prices to get better deals at the local store.
Example 1: I shop pet products across 3-4 online sites to get the best overall price when purchasing. Factor in any shipping and other fees. Make a printout of your cart before actually buying. Take the printout to your local store. Sometimes (but not often) the shelf price is actually lower than the best online prices. If not, ask the store if they will beat (not just match) the online price. Since you are physically in the store, ready to buy right now, they know they will lose the sale to an online retailer if they don't lower the price. They are willing to make a lower profit on this sale, rather than lose the sale completely. Works almost every time for franchise stores and "individual stores locally owned and operated".
Example 2: Again, with your printout in hand. If you regularly shop at a local store and use their "club card", they know your spending history at that specific store. Simply ask for a specific discount. On something like an $80.00 total bill I’ll say "too much, take $5.00 off". Usually they will. Has worked not only at pet supply stores, also at grocery stores (they really don't want to re-shelf all your items), hardware stores, etc. If you don't ask, then you can't get. They can only say "no" and you've lost nothing to try.
…I didn’t tell the DNA testing firms my nationality which I knew beforehand and they were spot on…and they were also able to match me up with my relatives whom I know to be my relatives and my own children.
Well thats nice you confirmed your kids are your kids...lol
This is nothing, try using VPN to change your location and then search for the bookings,,,, the price variation will be shocking
We love giving great deals to our customers lol foh
She just met the definition of price discrimination then said that... LOL
all ready to go with that answer too
BigBwoyTing XD She completely avoided every question.
the amazon price is because not everything sold on amazon is sold by amazon so it goes by there stocks...
Noticed this years ago. Three of us tried booking a trip to Europe on our individual phones. We all got completely different prices. And, it fluctuated the more we searched. Use this knowledge to your advantage.
I've noticed this especially with hotel rooms. They also often charge you a higher daily rate when booking multiple nights as opposed to one night at a time. Sometimes it's cheaper to book through the hotel, sometimes it isn't. I've never noticed this as much with plane tickets.
You are conflating "discrimination" with "predatory".
this is why I only shop in store, at least they're more honest about their mark-up
"at least they're more honest about their mark-up" What store is public about their markup?
I guess I never thought that everybody doesn't know about in-store mark-ups. from my experience in working in retail, I understand that most basic retail mark-ups start at 40% of purchase cost from the distributor (before sale prices). the mark-up is lower for groceries though (closer to 10-20%, from what I understand, they make more on bulk rather than per item). mark-ups can also be higher if the item is considered"high fashion", for example if you go buy a coach leather bag, rather than one made by a local artisan, more likely you're gonna have a higher mark-up at coach b/c it's "high fashion".
...these are the reasons i almost never buy sometime not on sale, unless i really need it, and I don't by "high fashion" items.
That's why when you ask them the price, you'll get "PM sent" reply lol.
As a software developer I do want to note that cookies are not some evil invention. They are a necessary component to maintaining a comprehensive user experience for the user. Along with things like server side sessions and url rewriting it is just one of many tools used to make modern websites.
At a movie theater seniors play less... that’s like saying at a zoo the price was cheaper for a 3 year old then the parent. Now that’s price discrimination I don’t think so.
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