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    Calculating Feeds and Speeds can be overwhelming, but it does not have to be. I go over a practical guide for a beginner to understand and calculate feedrates and RPM.
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    Calculating Feeds and Speeds on Excel - 6:54
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  • @tonymarrazzo354
    @tonymarrazzo354 2 месяца назад +2

    This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for. I toasted 3 1/4" bits by going too slow thinking I was helping the bit out.

  • @miguelandrews
    @miguelandrews 3 года назад +39

    The best explanation on chip load I've encountered to date.

  • @lochieleslaighter
    @lochieleslaighter 3 года назад +3

    Mate, I ripped straight in after watching this video and it felt like my machine has transformed. Thanks from Australia!

  • @chrispelletier3661
    @chrispelletier3661 Год назад +4

    Man this is exactly what I have been looking for!!! Power is truth and knowledge!!!
    You saved the day!!!!
    Thank you!!!
    Chris

  • @AdrienGaryLucca
    @AdrienGaryLucca 3 года назад +7

    I couldn't thank you more for this video. I own a shapeoko 3 XXL with an 800W water-cooled spindle and since I follow your advices on wood/mdf I "see the light" and understand how to work properly. Seriously RUclips is full of incorrect advice on machining, you and others convinced me that so-called "aggressive" feed-rates are not agressive, but actually the correct way to go for the tool and the material. You've changed my perspective, thanks!

  • @fxsrider
    @fxsrider 3 года назад +1

    Nice work!! A few years ago I rebuilt an old 1962 Shopsmith lathe. When I turned it on at the lowest speed I thought it was going crazy fast. I chucked a 8" diameter small log into it and when it spun up all the bark flew straight off. I just stood back and watched it for a few minutes. Over time I gained confidence in the ability of the machine to take the vibration and ended up running it faster and faster. I just built a CNC and playing with the different ways to create and feed it g-code. Like any other hobby the internet is mostly full of bullshit sales pitches or Pinterest, Etsy garbage. I know exactly what I am going to do. I made screen shots of the information you presented. I will make a spreadsheet that works and put it on google drive. In fact all of the information I am gathering is going there once I parse it all out and sort through the good vs bad. It makes sense to run a machine slow at first. You want to be sure it is mechanically sound. After that.... I want to know how fast I can push it. Why waste time if you don't have to!!
    Thanks for making the video!!

  • @3dw3dw
    @3dw3dw Год назад +4

    This is what I've been trying to find. Found a bunch of internet gurus on forums being dicks and all they had to say is what you just did.
    Thanks for being helpful.

    • @cutting-it-close
      @cutting-it-close  Год назад +1

      That’s why I started this channel! That’s all I found out there too

  • @dennisdrevna5533
    @dennisdrevna5533 2 года назад +2

    This was great. I have ask many of CNC operaters about feed and speed. This has answered many of my questions. Thanks for the information. Keep the videos coming.

  • @stevewolf8093
    @stevewolf8093 3 года назад +1

    I have spent a lot of time today watching videos to help me understand this only to still be confused. Thanks for making it simple to get. I wish I just started and ended with your video!

  • @stewartfry5094
    @stewartfry5094 3 года назад +4

    Best ever beginner intro to feeds and speeds - PLEASE give us a metric version of this. Many thanks.

    • @madeathome4057
      @madeathome4057 3 года назад +3

      You can always use my calculator which is based on this video and this excel informatyksiedlce.pl/_PROJECTS/chipload_calc/

    • @fenders9911
      @fenders9911 3 года назад

      @@madeathome4057 gives me ..This site can’t be reached

    • @Luzio2
      @Luzio2 3 года назад

      @@fenders9911 I have some problems with server, it working again

  • @madamHermit
    @madamHermit 2 года назад +4

    Down to earth and still gets the nuance/importance of everything across. I built my own hobbyist machine, and this plus your other videos have been so helpful on determining limits in how to run it and consider upgrades. So glad I found your channel, thanks!

    • @cutting-it-close
      @cutting-it-close  2 года назад +1

      Thank you:) I have many videos coming next year

    • @VSongu
      @VSongu Год назад

      @@cutting-it-close Hi! Could I ask you, do you utilize the chipload .004-0.06" with, designated in the chipload chart, for a 1/8 bit to cut plywood or other wood material? It's look for me too aggressive, because referensing to this chipload chart I have broken two 1/8 bits (one straigh and another spiral upcut one, both with two flutes) using .003" chip load which even less then the lowest border of the chipload range (the cutting paramets I have used for this where 16000 rpm, chipload = .003" and respectivly Cutting feed rate = 96", DOC=0.125").

  • @PanayiotisMavrokefalos
    @PanayiotisMavrokefalos 3 года назад

    I already feel more confident to try different settings after this. That chart is super super handy thank you for the time put for this video it really stands out from anything else out there on YT.

  • @garybarretta9394
    @garybarretta9394 5 месяцев назад +1

    More than 6 months later finally stumbled on your channel. Great informative video. Thank you.

  • @philscraftcorner
    @philscraftcorner 2 года назад +6

    Awesome video. This actually made a lot of sense to me. I'm looking into my first CNC so I have taken a screen shot of your chart and will definitely take it into account.

  • @dennisferons4002
    @dennisferons4002 3 года назад +1

    Just watched four of your videos. Best down to earth, nuts and bolts information in an easy to understand format. Great job.

  • @scraggy44
    @scraggy44 Год назад +1

    Exactly what I have been looking for, simple explanation based in the reality of working with wood on a small CNC! Thanks for sharing the spreadsheet too.

  • @stolionly
    @stolionly 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for a great video. Finailly understand Chip Load, Feed Rate etc. I have an X-Carve 750 that I bought in 2016 and havn't used for awhile. I did download your spreadsheet and modified it for my situation. I never use bits over 1/4" and go as small as 1/32". I did a calibration test carve yesterday and finally have it dialed in. Definatly making chips not dust now. PS I fided the spelling error in the spreadsheet too. Thanks again and I am now a subscriber

  • @dannyiwan7566
    @dannyiwan7566 3 года назад

    I definitely left this video with more knowledge than when I started.
    Thank you very much, I think you have just helped me save a small fortune in broken bits and damaged materials 👍

  • @eyecandy-gaming
    @eyecandy-gaming 2 года назад +1

    i just got my cnc yesterday. this was opposite of what I thought I was supposed to do. Thanks so much. luckily I haven't cut anything yet.

  • @hamiltonpianos
    @hamiltonpianos 3 года назад +2

    Nice. Thanks for that! Looking forward to more videos in the future!👍😁
    Oh, and don't forget single flute bits for the small routers that can't move fast enough for the feed speeds required for a twin flute!

  • @Stretcher1974
    @Stretcher1974 3 года назад

    I am a tool and die maker, you nailed it. Great job and best explanation I have ever heard.

  • @Cobyvincenr
    @Cobyvincenr 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally found a video that explains this confusing part of it all. Thanks my friend!

  • @cook6052
    @cook6052 2 года назад

    Terrific, thanks for the education. Couple of follow-up questions. Thanks again for you concise, hi-energy, and efficient effort...much appreciated.

  • @marismarisovich4385
    @marismarisovich4385 3 года назад

    OMG, this is the best explain in whole youtube, so simply explain so sophisticated and suptile thing in CNC machining.
    Thank you very much.

  • @chriscosentino1
    @chriscosentino1 3 года назад

    Nice simple explanation with real world production examples. Awesome!

  • @litheodragon1827
    @litheodragon1827 2 года назад +1

    Quite an informational video! Thanks to this i was able to do my very first PVC cut perfectly

  • @jfairplane8520
    @jfairplane8520 3 года назад +2

    Wow... seriously i read a lot on that.. And you make it very clear ! Congrats !!

  • @marshallbueckert2098
    @marshallbueckert2098 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the, easy to follow, explanation. This has explained a lot as to why I’m using up 1/4” bits on my hobby CNC machine.

    • @cutting-it-close
      @cutting-it-close  Месяц назад

      I have a great video coming out tomorrow explaining this more, you’re going to love it!

  • @robsandstrom9854
    @robsandstrom9854 3 года назад +1

    Terrific explanation - this is helpful and exposed a fundamental flaw in my thinking. I have a Laguna IQ because several people recognized this as a strong entry level CNC and claimed it could do everything the larger footprint CNCs could do, just couldn't handle large sheets of plywood. After two of your videos in the last two days, the one on different types of CNCs I realize I have been sadly mistaken.
    Key lessons I learned from your videos:
    1. I mostly use 1/4 inch bits, but when I had an option I would buy 1/2 inch bits because I read somewhere these were better to use in routers and CNCs (opps)
    2. When my Laguna would make lot's of noise while cutting, I was slowing down the feedrate. whenever i was concerned about overheating the bit (1/4 ' mostly) i would slow down the feedrate - not increase it.
    Need to rethink my approach - I wonder how much damage I am doing to the Amana Bits i have been buying. Thanks still catching up with your information - very helpful. Double thumbs up from me. i realize how long this video production takes - I sure hope it starts paying back for you. With your other business this has got to be tough to manage.

  • @user-jw6bi4lv7w
    @user-jw6bi4lv7w 19 дней назад

    The second I saw the spreadsheet you got the Sub&Like!! lol. THANK YOU!

  • @leslieapplegate65
    @leslieapplegate65 4 месяца назад +2

    Found your channel via Andy And am sure I am going to learn a lot here!!!

    • @cutting-it-close
      @cutting-it-close  4 месяца назад

      Glad to have you on! Do you own a CNC? Or want to start a business? What brings you in?

    • @leslieapplegate65
      @leslieapplegate65 4 месяца назад

      @@cutting-it-close I have a laser which I just bought and am looking at a cnc to compliment it. I hope to start with small items to get my feet wet. I need to learn a lot!!!

    • @DominikBrum
      @DominikBrum 4 месяца назад

      Same, I’m trying to learn as much as I can while waiting on my machine to arrive

  • @arthurwarner196
    @arthurwarner196 Год назад

    I have a laguna IQ and this video is just what i needed to set my speeds and feeds. I like the part about reading the chip that is super helpful. A video about how to hold down the wood and various fixturing would be a video i would like to see. Thanks your channel is always helpful and you are a great teacher

  • @AKSawdust
    @AKSawdust Год назад

    By far the best explanation of chip load that I have heard! Well done

  • @samusad
    @samusad Год назад +2

    It's been a while but this video is still very useful today. congratulations, my cnc is small 1000mm x 800mm with 315oz motors 1605 spindle, I did a test flattening the sacrifice table at 6000mm/min really when the machine can cut within those parameters mentioned by you, it's another level although 6000mm/min was the maximum I could at the moment. here in Brazil homemade machines make a lot of dust 🤭 today I managed to make some grains, and it gets a lot less dirty.

  • @daleromney6062
    @daleromney6062 2 года назад

    Thanks, very useful. I am new to CNC, and your guide is what I need.

  • @RichA7CV41
    @RichA7CV41 3 года назад

    Excellent display of chip load....well done sir and thank you for the explanation.

  • @phillipbywater2546
    @phillipbywater2546 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much I'm new to CNC and this explains why it smells like burning wood in my shop :) I was doing everything opposite to what I'm supposed to be running at for my machine.

  • @DerekSavich
    @DerekSavich 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! Thanks for taking the time to explain it in the manner that you did.

  • @superdad2010
    @superdad2010 2 года назад

    Loving this channel! Finally someone who speaks my language. Keep it up brother!!

  • @zacmac
    @zacmac 3 года назад

    Great information. Thanks for sharing your accumulated experience.

  • @33rbp
    @33rbp 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome buddy, many thanks for all the explanation and the excel! Cheers

  • @reedfoster9426
    @reedfoster9426 Месяц назад

    Great instructional video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @mariotrejo9574
    @mariotrejo9574 Год назад

    Great video! Very informative. Love the catchphrase at the end.

  • @spudunit
    @spudunit 2 года назад

    Dude! You saved me some grief. Thanks! Getting my first machine soon so that will help with bit selection.

  • @wagsman9999
    @wagsman9999 6 месяцев назад

    This was very informative. Nice to get input from a professional. Thank you.

  • @neptunels
    @neptunels 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video. This is the info I have been looking for!

  • @jdanois2655
    @jdanois2655 3 года назад

    Great information. Keep them coming we love all the effort.

    • @jdanois2655
      @jdanois2655 3 года назад

      @@cutting-it-close I think it's just right using everyday items to explain and demonstrate like your "hands" makes it easier for the untrained like me to understand.

  • @tpsooner7816
    @tpsooner7816 4 месяца назад

    This was really helpful! Thanks Ryan.

  • @samwalker4442
    @samwalker4442 Год назад

    Brilliant video and thank you for the spreadsheet 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @AdamHeppenstall
    @AdamHeppenstall 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for this incredible video!

  • @geoffwilliams5522
    @geoffwilliams5522 Год назад

    Wow, that was eye opening. I am going try this and see if my bit and material survives.

  • @ovuud
    @ovuud Год назад +1

    insanely helpful video - thank you for putting this together

  • @asderven
    @asderven 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the video. May I suggest in your excel sheet to colour code your answers based on ranges of input. If the 1/8 bit is used, hardwood is used, enter feed rate, rpm, number of flutes. If the answer is below the range, show the number and colour the box into pink. If within range, it is green. If above the range it becomes red. This way you can see if parameters are checking out or not. In the current setup, the answer requires referencing, that can create an error.

  • @zacharymiller7001
    @zacharymiller7001 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for the video. When you were showing the charts I was confused on how you got your feed rate and chip load. I’m using a cheap 3018 cnc and I’m brand new to this.
    Thx.

    • @k.p.1139
      @k.p.1139 3 года назад

      Yep! When he says hobbyist machine, is a 1.5 HP router a hobbyist machine? LOL I am still confused! But, maybe one day this will all click!

  • @NickRogersNJRCustomGuitars
    @NickRogersNJRCustomGuitars 2 года назад

    Thank you so much, Just what ive been looking for.

  • @clinton8432
    @clinton8432 3 года назад

    Thank you for this. I really appreciate it 🙂

  • @FamilyRoots
    @FamilyRoots 3 года назад +2

    Great explanation 👍

  • @steve-martin-42
    @steve-martin-42 3 года назад

    Thank you for a great explanation

  • @gregoryt7216
    @gregoryt7216 Год назад

    Another great video. Thank you.

  • @jaroncontreras2783
    @jaroncontreras2783 2 года назад

    The hand and sawdust presentation is a perfect way to explain proper cutting. Haha

  • @krasimirkolev777
    @krasimirkolev777 3 года назад

    Very good content Thank you!

  • @vijaytimberbhilai9002
    @vijaytimberbhilai9002 3 года назад

    amazing analysis...thank u

  • @lesterandreas96
    @lesterandreas96 3 года назад

    Wow that was an amazing video!!!!!!!! I wish I could sit down with you and just talk about this topic. I work for a company as an router operator. I consistently get into discussions about this with upper management. They insist on using 3 flute cutters so we can run faster. Only issue with this is the feed rate for that cutter far exceeds machine capability. Not unless I am figuring things out wrong.

    • @lesterandreas96
      @lesterandreas96 3 года назад +1

      Cuttin' It Close my feed rate max is 1,000 ipm. The maximum feed rate the machine can reach when cutting my parts is 500 ipm due to the short distance it needs to move. I just can’t see spending the money on a 3 flute compression bit when that is overkill for what we are doing. A 2 flute compression bit will be good for the parameters my machine can achieve. Thanks for the insight.

  • @fenders9911
    @fenders9911 3 года назад

    it helped me out now to test lol thank you for your time makeing this video

  • @nathanking2484
    @nathanking2484 Год назад

    Thanks for a great video, much appreciated!

  • @ejkt73
    @ejkt73 8 месяцев назад

    Amen. I understand now that playing with the rpm and feed rates as variables you arrive at the recommended average chip load... took a min and serveral beers, but thank you :)

  • @alancv86
    @alancv86 Год назад

    Thank you very much, this really helped me out!

  • @umitfiliz191
    @umitfiliz191 Год назад

    I learn a lot from you man:) Thanks you!

  • @luisnoriega5738
    @luisnoriega5738 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you, very
    useful for a beginner

  • @Mr_Chuckles
    @Mr_Chuckles 2 года назад

    Amazing, saw on many other videos and sources to slow down the cutting for a better finish. Didn't think to go faster! Guess its kind of like flying, better to be moving fast or you stall out!

  • @michaelbourke4032
    @michaelbourke4032 11 месяцев назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing. Being unfamiliar with excel just need to work out how to add formulas to get the required chip loads, speeds and feeds.

  • @magicman9486
    @magicman9486 5 месяцев назад

    Good info. I have a large 48 by 96 CNC but who ever built it thought it was a good idea to but a 400 watt Spindle in it. I run 1/8" bit at little over 1/4" and speed of 72 which seems to work well. My stepper are a little small and are direct drive, not sure i could even get 100 IPM. I will have to do some tests to see what it is capable today.

  • @jonathanlynch4742
    @jonathanlynch4742 2 года назад +2

    Been watching your videos and they have helped more than you would imagine. Really like the chip load chart you provided. Do you know if there is one for smaller bits or do you use the same chip load for 1/8? I would think that would be too much for a 1mm or even 1.5mm. If you could help. Thanks.

  • @travislrogers
    @travislrogers Год назад

    Great explanation. Thanks for this!

  • @UrquidiGuitars
    @UrquidiGuitars 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this information, so freaking cool!

  • @denis.plahuta
    @denis.plahuta 3 года назад

    great video. thank you

  • @kadirakyollu4024
    @kadirakyollu4024 5 месяцев назад

    Omg. That is kind of a norme of your company and you shared it. Thank you.

  • @ian6083
    @ian6083 3 года назад

    Thank you so much!

  • @tsjmattar
    @tsjmattar Год назад

    Great video,, thanks for making this. !

  • @inthewoodworksco.9041
    @inthewoodworksco.9041 Год назад +2

    This is a great video. Very helpful and informative. I recently bought a 30"x30" Longmill MK2. I noticed you set your depth per pass at 1x-2x the diameter of the bit. But I recently saw on Xcarve's recommendations that you should only set your depth per pass at 1/2x the diameter of the bit. Do you think this is just a way to try and keep the rates conservative? And would that potentially heat up the bit more like you said and actually make things worse later on? Thanks again for making this content.

  • @SimPilot-dl8zy
    @SimPilot-dl8zy 3 года назад

    Excellent explanation. Thank you. Finally someone who knows how to explain this. I am using a Openbuilds Workbee with a dewalt router and have had a heck of a time figuring out the feeds and speeds knowing the machine it’s self could never run at the required numbers. Do you have the excel sheet you could share?

  • @benjiandmckenzie8269
    @benjiandmckenzie8269 2 года назад

    Your the man. Thanks!

  • @craigwesson1788
    @craigwesson1788 2 года назад

    Thanks. That really helped. I have a Onefinity so 1/4 inch is my biggest except for the one inch surfacing bit. Some speeds seem fast but good to hear it from a pro. 😊

  • @garyn234
    @garyn234 3 года назад +1

    Hey ... excellent video ... but a question ... specifically for cutting with a hobbyist level cnc, into hardwood, with a Vcarve bit (2 flutes, 1/4" shaft) ... you mention to use an 80 IPM feed rate, BUT ... what RPM would I set my spindle to? Does it matter if the bit is 60 vs 90 degrees? Do Vcarve bits have a 'diameter' (that could then be used to calculate chip load)? Thanks! Gary

  • @TheMrJackzilla
    @TheMrJackzilla 3 года назад

    Saved my life, my problem was the dept of cut (was to high)

  • @katherinakoufoudaki2199
    @katherinakoufoudaki2199 3 года назад

    Thank you Verry mach ! You help me!!!!!!!!

  • @josephkickbusch340
    @josephkickbusch340 Месяц назад

    Great job thank you

  • @omarchavez769
    @omarchavez769 2 года назад

    Tanks for the exel!!! its very very very helpfull, Regards!!

  • @joehanika
    @joehanika Год назад

    If this is true, I have been going way too slow. Thank you for this chart! I will play around with some feeds and speeds.

  • @nizamuqureshi5818
    @nizamuqureshi5818 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for information

  • @roughlyEnforcing
    @roughlyEnforcing Год назад

    thanks this is really helpful info

  • @peternanden5776
    @peternanden5776 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing

  • @mrgodBG
    @mrgodBG 2 года назад

    ty so much, i just realized that i'm doing almost everything wrong!

  • @mohamedthasneem7327
    @mohamedthasneem7327 3 года назад

    Thank you very much

  • @stripples2
    @stripples2 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video.

  • @martinmortimer1084
    @martinmortimer1084 3 года назад

    As a total newbe to cncing this explenation and calculator covered everything thank you (any chance of doing it in metric) thank you again

  • @garyn234
    @garyn234 3 года назад

    excellent!

  • @saharshtheone
    @saharshtheone 3 года назад +1

    Hey this is Saharsh from India. Your videos have really helped me figure out CNC machines and the basics of starting a woodworking company here, specially since this kind of information is not as easily available and you cant always trust machine suppliers.
    P.S Anyway and I can reach out to you for queries? If it's not too much of an ask?

  • @104Tomcat
    @104Tomcat 3 года назад +1

    Great... I needed this! Great explanation that helped me actually understand! One question about your spreadsheet please. What Spindle horse power does this assume?

    • @104Tomcat
      @104Tomcat 3 года назад

      @@cutting-it-close Thank you, I understand!

  • @Przedzik
    @Przedzik 2 года назад

    very nice video :)
    what about ball nose bits? Use chip load as end mils or slightly less?