22:14 I love that plug for Serral. Mad respect. 25:19 - the energy rate is so that you get almost precisely 50 energy per minute on a unit (4 minutes 14 seconds for 200 energy to be exact)
55:00 it seems that Zergs only option IS for agression - because I don't see a way how Zerg can stand up against the late game Toss army. Zergs Anti-Air is too weak against a non-abductable mothership that is protected by storms + archons. The only chance is that the Toss screws it up badly, but if you play against somebody like MaxPax that's not exactly a winning strategy, is it? I've no idea what the balance council is smoking, but IMO they should take less of it.
And mothership even more oppressing on the lower levels of the ladder. I do not think it's a "counsil" actually. As far as I heard. Who screams louder there - is usually has a weight to his opinion. Seems like there's no zerg screaming loud enogh in there. )
The number 1 zerg player beat the number 1 protoss player. Did you want Serral to 2-0 MaxPax? Zerg and Protoss players should be teaming up against the ridiculousness that is Terran right now.
I feel like Zerg has to go hyperaggressive regardless, simply because their early game is almost entirely based around minimizing harass, because Oracles can get way too much damage without Protoss micro mistakes. Late game is bad; early game is hard. Midgame is the only place Zerg feels like it has a chance against a similarly skilled Protoss.
@@KingOfNebbishes Mate, the best Zerg just 3:1'd with ease the best Protoss, and yet you are still whining? When is the last time Protoss won any tourney worth talking about? Yeah, that's right, like 5 years ago.
just had to let you know, no one is funnier than you in the casting crew....and I appreciate that it's more often than not relatively intelligent comedy along side the insightful commentary
If Serral is playing under username "SepeSusi", and _Susan_ is part of The Knitting Crew™... 🤔 *OMG, SERRAL IS CANONICALLY PART OF THE KNITTING CREW™* 🤯🤯🤯 *Edit:* But because it also means "The Big, Bad Wolf" and Serral rules all the ladders like a one-man Home Depot, it's a double entendre! 🤯🤯🤯
Winter, I just want to say thank you for your videos and your hard work. I wake up everyday hoping there will be a new video for me to watch, and you never dissapoint.
!!Warning of spoilers below!!! Im playing Protoss but after watching that first game, and a few others recently, we might actually have an air toss problem. I remember in the past Serral used to just dismantle such a comp with vipers, I wonder what has changed. The mohtership makes such a big difference? Or Protoss build more tempests and Zerg cant rely on vipers so much? ITs really weird to me, because i sepcifically remember Serral demolishing Protoss late game air toss in the past.
In the past, he'd usually choked out Protoss players by spreading creep, getting to max army, and building a ton of extra spores. Even then , I remember someone like Neeb having good games against him. I don't think he got there this game. I don't know if it was really the mothership so much as MaxPax's general aggression that kept him from getting there. Serral did stay on Hydras longer and definitely had fewer queens than he would in those games, so the queen nerf and energy overcharge keeping Protoss a little more safe vs. earlier timings, allowing MaxPax to stay agressive, may be the biggest change. In any event, I like the Mothership change. Just watching it get yoinked and killed in 2 seconds wasn't really as much fun to watch :)
@@johnmartorana196 I agree. MaxPax ususally plays so aggressive, that the zerg dosent have time to build up the sporeforrest, or build broodlords to threaten the archons/high templar on the ground. The new mothership makes it even more difficult, its not just about the fact, that it can no longer be abducted, its also a decent fighting unit on its own now.
@@johnmartorana196 I like the new mothership too, but if its to strong, maybe some changes will be needed, maybe keep the no yoink, but change somethign else...
@@firestarter000001 fortunately now that the mothership's attacks actually matter it's a lot easier to make balance adjustments without totally reworking the unit. That said, I think it's a little premature to be calling the game broken. Lets give the players a few months to see if the meta stabilizes in a good place.
19:30 Serral actually just clicked go in and gave up on his stream. Lackluster micro compared to what he could have done if he tried. He missjudged it as unwinnable while it was really close without microing.
i've been away from the sc2 world for a while now. one thing i'm noticing watching recent videos is that protoss seems pretty weak and struggling to make ends meet. Am i wrong ou is this really a thing? not criticizing btw
Year but usually Serral gets crippled in the early game by Clem and is already limping into the mid/lategame, behind in supply. And if a zerg is behind or even equal in supply vs a terran or protoss, its usually a bad sign for the zerg.
22:14 I love that plug for Serral. Mad respect.
25:19 - the energy rate is so that you get almost precisely 50 energy per minute on a unit (4 minutes 14 seconds for 200 energy to be exact)
"Who's transferring the drones? SUSAN!??" I will never get tired of Brenda and the Knitting Crew 🤣❤
The Hatchery Owner's Association, is such a source of comedy!!
that face he made after he realized he said "Winter is coming"
he knew... he f**ed up ajhajhahj
6:44
😏😏😏
Gross
He camed
Bro hatchery owners association meeting killed me.
Is funny how zerg's meta change to "late game is a nono" 😂
ZvP was already a bad place to go late game. Now it’s just instant death lol
I was expecting the Protoss to be Clem 🤣
Same!
Same.
I understand it doesn't really matter but that's a delusional opinion
Same 😅 I was like oh that would be a hilarious title
Clem isn't close to being the #1 protoss.
55:00 it seems that Zergs only option IS for agression - because I don't see a way how Zerg can stand up against the late game Toss army.
Zergs Anti-Air is too weak against a non-abductable mothership that is protected by storms + archons.
The only chance is that the Toss screws it up badly, but if you play against somebody like MaxPax that's not exactly a winning strategy, is it?
I've no idea what the balance council is smoking, but IMO they should take less of it.
And mothership even more oppressing on the lower levels of the ladder. I do not think it's a "counsil" actually. As far as I heard. Who screams louder there - is usually has a weight to his opinion. Seems like there's no zerg screaming loud enogh in there. )
The number 1 zerg player beat the number 1 protoss player. Did you want Serral to 2-0 MaxPax? Zerg and Protoss players should be teaming up against the ridiculousness that is Terran right now.
I feel like Zerg has to go hyperaggressive regardless, simply because their early game is almost entirely based around minimizing harass, because Oracles can get way too much damage without Protoss micro mistakes. Late game is bad; early game is hard. Midgame is the only place Zerg feels like it has a chance against a similarly skilled Protoss.
@@KingOfNebbishes Mate, the best Zerg just 3:1'd with ease the best Protoss, and yet you are still whining? When is the last time Protoss won any tourney worth talking about? Yeah, that's right, like 5 years ago.
just had to let you know, no one is funnier than you in the casting crew....and I appreciate that it's more often than not relatively intelligent comedy along side the insightful commentary
If Serral is playing under username "SepeSusi", and _Susan_ is part of The Knitting Crew™... 🤔
*OMG, SERRAL IS CANONICALLY PART OF THE KNITTING CREW™* 🤯🤯🤯
*Edit:* But because it also means "The Big, Bad Wolf" and Serral rules all the ladders like a one-man Home Depot, it's a double entendre! 🤯🤯🤯
3:16 not paying attention when his oracle flies over the drone for Serral's 4th
What if we made a mother ship neuralable but only with 3 investors at at a time?
"Winter is coming" 😳
storming his carrier is a BIG BALL move.
Cant sleep without winter sound right now
Was that a your mom is fat joke at 20:24 lmaoo
No mistery ,i saw Maxpax on stream at Riad world chapionship
I was watching SortOfSC2 last night and he was saying that zvp was insufferable. I was happy to see this video today as a zerg player
Winter, I just want to say thank you for your videos and your hard work. I wake up everyday hoping there will be a new video for me to watch, and you never dissapoint.
Have you considered showing some 2v2 gameplay? Love the content!
Thanks!
Oh I HANDLED that like button! ^^
!!Warning of spoilers below!!!
Im playing Protoss but after watching that first game, and a few others recently, we might actually have an air toss problem. I remember in the past Serral used to just dismantle such a comp with vipers, I wonder what has changed. The mohtership makes such a big difference? Or Protoss build more tempests and Zerg cant rely on vipers so much? ITs really weird to me, because i sepcifically remember Serral demolishing Protoss late game air toss in the past.
In the past, he'd usually choked out Protoss players by spreading creep, getting to max army, and building a ton of extra spores. Even then , I remember someone like Neeb having good games against him.
I don't think he got there this game. I don't know if it was really the mothership so much as MaxPax's general aggression that kept him from getting there.
Serral did stay on Hydras longer and definitely had fewer queens than he would in those games, so the queen nerf and energy overcharge keeping Protoss a little more safe vs. earlier timings, allowing MaxPax to stay agressive, may be the biggest change.
In any event, I like the Mothership change. Just watching it get yoinked and killed in 2 seconds wasn't really as much fun to watch :)
@@johnmartorana196 I agree. MaxPax ususally plays so aggressive, that the zerg dosent have time to build up the sporeforrest, or build broodlords to threaten the archons/high templar on the ground. The new mothership makes it even more difficult, its not just about the fact, that it can no longer be abducted, its also a decent fighting unit on its own now.
@@johnmartorana196 I like the new mothership too, but if its to strong, maybe some changes will be needed, maybe keep the no yoink, but change somethign else...
@@firestarter000001 fortunately now that the mothership's attacks actually matter it's a lot easier to make balance adjustments without totally reworking the unit. That said, I think it's a little premature to be calling the game broken. Lets give the players a few months to see if the meta stabilizes in a good place.
@@EllipticalReasoning Agreed, a few games is to little
SepeSusi is truly the most unintimidating word for something like big bad wolf I have ever heard 😂
It's the "big bad wolf" from the Donald Duck comics, so it's not exactly super terrifying in Finnish either :D
Serral v MaxPax are always amazing games
I manhandled that like button for you, Papa Winter!
Thank You
Om nom nom
hey we got red on red and blue on blue this time!
Good day so far. Coffee, spliff, StarCraft... It's about to get a little bit better! 😂
be nice to see carrior battle vs battle cruisers
I like seeing Protoss in these videos.
Bernese is a good name for a queen
the mothership "inertia" is the only change I agree with in the last patch. it didn't feel right to pull it with a viper.
Winter your like pleads are a masterclass of its own 👍
I dont know if the numbers on the MaxPax card are current, seem kinda low:)
I see MaxPax (or Serral) = Auto Like 👍
Liked and Subscribed.
Winter is coming OwO
Jimmy does a good job
Un nuevo Serral? 🤔
Of course you drop a banger right as I’m supposed to go to bed ☠️
You are literally the best winter!
2:55 why does serral always float 200 gas here surely you want to put back on gas later and have more minerals ?
in case he needs roaches he can pump them out quickly. he is building a roach warren. One can't drone up without a little protection.
Supe susi = howling wolf.
Whoa
I ultralove this map
maxpax v serral?
mmmm delicious
like button handled as per orders, commander winter, sir
🖖🖖🖖
How can I like twice the video for all the funny comments? hahaha
I'll like it, just leave my mother out of this cast
19:30 Serral actually just clicked go in and gave up on his stream. Lackluster micro compared to what he could have done if he tried. He missjudged it as unwinnable while it was really close without microing.
I'd like to file an official complaint about your description of viper tongues. It haunts me.
i've been away from the sc2 world for a while now. one thing i'm noticing watching recent videos is that protoss seems pretty weak and struggling to make ends meet. Am i wrong ou is this really a thing? not criticizing btw
we still don't know what max pax looks like? do we know that he's not cheating? sussy dane
6:10, “serral’s the best at lategame”, meanwhile Clem beats Serral.
Year but usually Serral gets crippled in the early game by Clem and is already limping into the mid/lategame, behind in supply. And if a zerg is behind or even equal in supply vs a terran or protoss, its usually a bad sign for the zerg.
Because he keep pressure Serral from the early game. The only game recently where Clem was not able to pressure Serral, he lost in lategame.
Clem uses Terran...
Late game Zerg is a complete joke, they have absolutely nothing to deal with Protoss or Terran armies. Bring back the Infested Terran...
Top1 zerg player beats top1 protoss player. Who would've guessed.
comment for statistic.
you're kinda cool.
Still waiting for that fro-wig…..
Would totally get more likes and subscribes.
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It's ok it was just Karen
like your mother lol
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