I am VERY Sorry about the Mic issue for Number 4. XD Here is what happened: The music that played before I had to edit, slightly, to avoid a copyright issue. Turns out, I must have edited my commentary for the rest of 4th Point also, and it was too late to fix by the time I noticed. Sorry, but I hope some of you found it funny at least. : )
"I really don't like missile cav" This explains why he's kind of shitty at Medieval 2. Missile cav dominate in Medieval 2. You can rout whole armies with a half stack of missile cav.
Any mobile ranged units way too OP maybe that’s what he means? 🤷🏻 but yeah they are hella annoying only way take them out is lot of light Calvary I personally do not use them I like using infantry and bowmen
@@21Arrozito Missile cav is my favorite type of unit and Byzantine was the one to introduce me with. After that I play cavalary factions only with Russia being my No.1.
Me about to start my first Seluecid campaign: "They get legionnaires? Sweet!" Jump cut to turn 30 where I've destroyed every faction around me with militia because I've been under endless sieges and cant build anything else.
@@TryToHardForFun The easist way for the seleucids is focus on egypt. Kill Egypt first, you can afford to lose every province you started with, if you kill eggy. Every other option for the seleucids is putting yourself into a harder mode.
You should have focused on building certain military buildings in certain cities to get to good stuff faster. For example, baracks in Antioch and archery range in Susa or Memphis. Also, being proactive about your wars helps a lot.
You can get your general in Ephesus to recruit a mercenary army and start taking settlements from there, I defeated Pontus with a ragtag group of Cretan archers, rhodian slingers, mercenary hoplites, barbarian cavalry, barbarian spearmen, scythian horsearchers and falxmen
yup, i took an army of nothing but conquistadors and pretty much went from one side of the america's to the other. won every battle even when outnumbered by like 10:1 and overran thousands of them.
Look at the battle. Melkor has no idea how to play medieval 2 well. He places his cavalry in reserve instead of being proactive and has his gunpowder units simply stand in front of his melee infantry until they are engaged. That way you are relying solely on melee infantry to win the battle for you which is a really bad idea. Melee infantry can be great but not for winning battles by themselves. They pin enemy units so that ranged units or cavalry can win the battle
I agree, Seleucids are overrated for beginners, but for people who are experienced, they are a massive powerhouse. Definitely my favorite campaign in vanilla. Surrounded by enemies, with a powerful empire, it's really quite fun.
I would jump on Parthia immediately, driving them out of the Iranian highlands. Armenia is usually next, while holding off the Egyptians. Once Pontus is gone I can roll up Egypt and move west with the irresistible might of a tidal wave.
I'm the one who focuses south first because after Egypt, there is no more space and have to turn back. If I go north first, turn back south, then turn back again, I would make my army March too many times and I'm just too kind of a person to not to exhaust my beloved man :)
About byzantine missile cavs, their best unit of the category, the vardariotai, are excellent. Do not fear making them charge lines of archers or light infantry, they'll be fine. Just don't forget to send a swarm of priests in any province you want to conquer...
My issue with the Vardariotai is they are too available compared to the Byzantine Lancers and Kataphraktoi which were the real powerhouses of the Byzantine Military. They have a nice roster but the way it is laid out in the campaign puts too much focus on Horse Archers when the Byzantines in real life were not as proficient in them as others, only using them as Mercs or as a hybrid type of horse archer lightly armored cav. The buildings for Cities and Castles are too focused on HA and not as much on Good infantry and cavalry which you need to go through too much work to finally get and by then it should be over. I also wish Med 2 Byzantines had actual good Spearmen because their strongest spear unit is way too damn weak for a faction that historically was pretty good with them.
I thought you were about to mention Numidia... but then i remembered that numidia is not "over-rated" ... it is merely *ACCEPTED* as the most superior faction in the series
Plot twist: Melkor deliberately messed with the tone of his voice because he actually loves the Seleucids so much to the point of obsession. Therefore picking them as an overrated faction to disguise it, but giving himself a silly voice so no one actually remembers his actual criticism. Foolproof plan!
ERE is powerful because you don't have to fight any wars you don't want to. You can peace out of 3/4 of starting wars and end the visigoths by turn 3. Then just turtle up throwing cash at and allying sassanids and huns while your empire rakes in cash. Also with greek christianity + libraries you can max out techs way before any other playable faction making civic management and high-level troop spam trivial. I think they are misunderstood because everyone focuses on the unlimited cash thing.
The thing with spain in the americas campaign is that you can hire native mercenaries, they arent the most elite thing but they give you numbers to engage the enemy while destroying them with artillery and cabalry. So if you only count their normal roster i will agree it is very lacking, but if you count the mercenaries they are incredibly OP.
Thanks Melkor for your channel. I found you a few days ago before the Total War Steam sale. Watched some videos and I ended up buying all the total wars on sale on steam. Massive discount but lockdown is making me bored. I won’t be bored now. Thanks again
Man if only Byzantium could be assessed in its Stainless Steel form. It's so much more fleshed out and unique in it's roster than in vanilla and the campaign is also far more interesting with the addition of the Cumans into the previously barren steppe. SS Byzantium holds up.
I think a big part of Byzantium's popularity in Medieval 2 is actually due to how ridiculously overpowered they were in Medieval 1. For a lot of people it was the first faction they completed a campaign with. Then with every new game, the vets would hype the Byzantines or suggest them to new players, and it basically became a trend. I don't understand all this hate for horse archers though. Easily the best unit category in the game and the Byzantines easily have the best one. If they have a weakness, it's that their campaign is boring. It's relatively easy to complete the long campaign long before the Mongols show up. God only knows how many full stack armies of Venetian spear and crossbow militia units I slaughtered with a half stack of vards.
Lol. I’ve been obsessed with the Byzantine empire lately after I delved into their history a bit more. I’ve been looking high and low for every game, movie or documentary out there. Surprisingly, there’s really not much out there. Because of this I found it particularly funny when your first mention was Medieval 2’s Byzantines haha.
There are a bunch of good books about the Eastern Roman Empire. I suggest you "Constantine XI the inmortal life of the last Roman Emperor". Prettt good book.
@@princeniccolo8299 Your welcome, it's pretty good. There are other books that talk about the end of the Roman Empire in 1453 against the Ottomans. But this book for me is more direct about the topic of the last emperor of the Roman Empire. Take care buddy and enjoy the reading.
@@princeniccolo8299 Read John Julius Norwich’s “Byzantium”. It’s a 3-volume history from the Tetrarchy to the fall of Constantinople. It’s also available as a condensed 1-volume “A Short History of Byzantium”
The Seleucid starting position is actually great. Because they're centrally located they can just expand in every direction and conquer the entire southeastern third of the map.
Melkor is very smart. As a northern boy, he knowS the secret to calming the seleucid fanboys by drinking yorkshire tea and inhaling helium to divert anger with humour
amateur , i play the Julii conquer northern italy and Salona & Segesta for the mines ,save some money for a few turns, recruit 3 armies as soon as possible bankrupting myself in the process sent one of them with ships straight to egypt one of them to carthage and one to greece trying to steal as much land from the scipii and brutii as possible and than i focus on the barbarians at the end :) P.S. if you want something greater than a victory if you conquer 50 regions and get both senate and people to max approval you will get a message that you are Romulus Reborn , which is such a high honor, i count it higher than victory , especially since most dont that this message even exist
Juli is as dull as you want to make it, I like sending an army over to Greece and trying to snag some wonders first, send 1 to Egypt early on grab their capital.
I would say Rome in Rise of the Republic. Don't get me wrong , it's my favourite mini campaign in the series alongside Charlemagne and i enjoy Camillus faction a lot but i have seen very few people actively using the reformed roman military as the starting hopilite based roster is quite usefull; and getting the reformed units should be the main point of RoTR.
Yeah, I get what you mean. I just got really anxious that somehow the Principes and Triarii are gonna be worse than the Centurae and the hoplites. (I just got base game Rorarii PTSD) so I waited quite a while to recruit them. Until I managed to defeat an entire migrating horde with just the reformed garrison. After that I just completely autoresloved my way through Taras and the Greeks.
The Julii gets tedious because I like to play semi-historically and mirror Rome’s expansion. Half the time, the Britons have engulfed the Germans and have expanded all the way to Russia. The rest of the campaign until the civil wars is nothing but Gauls, Spaniards and Britons. It just gets dull.
Hold on, how do you select multiple units and disband them all at once like you did with the Seleucid milita cav? I need to know how to do that so badly, the endless clicking is draining my soul.
i also dont really like missile cav...if i have any sort of missile unit i want them to be behind my melee units, while my cavarly flank the enemy, but with missile cav..not only is it not fit of being behind my units, it also doesnt charge at my enemies, i expect my cavarly to be able to smash into the enemies sides..sure they might be OP..i used em once before and they where very good..but i prefer a more "brute force" strat for my cav..and for my archers a support role..i cant just combine both..brute force and support is the exact opposite of eachother
SPain in Kingdoms depends on one thing, and one thing only: do you know enough about how the morale system works to stack enough bonuses to make EVERYTHING rout the second it gets into melee? If yes, it's a cakewalk. If not, you're gonna have a bad time. It's like Apaches, but with easier setup and not quite as crazy late game.
MELKOR Thanks, I just wanted to know because it is very different from the older titles. Also I agree with what you said about the Julii, during my first play through, I almost lost the civil war because I had all of these undeveloped barbarian regions where I couldn’t recruit troops
When I play a roman faction I intentionally expand in the wrong direction because I know the AI isn't going to try and take my own stomping ground off me and it strangles one of my rivals early.
And you don't know how to play Spain in America's. You have Conquistadors. They broke every unit in fight one against five. The Spanish dragoons are also one of the most powerful units. You can't use gunpowder in Med 2.
It makes sense really for the byzantines in medieval 2 to be on the list considering at the starting date of the game, the Byzantines had already lost most of their territory in real life by then.The Selucids in Rome 1 since it begins shortly after the pyrrhic wars had already ended so they still had most of their territory.The Selucids either way were still able to even give the Romans a run for their money.The Spanish though sure may have had superior technology to the aztecs but there were other factors to keep in mine.the rest of them what else is there to say
I don't get people saying Julii is bad because of the position, you know what exist? A boat, you can use them too and go into greece yourself. It doesn't have to be the brutii.
I know of that strategy, but tried to ignore it for this video. As, otherwise, then every Roman Faction is identical, because under an experienced player, any can flip onto any front.
With the Julii you only capture barbarian settlements who are not very populated, so you need to constantly keep a strong presence in the city or the town, slowing your advance
About the Spanish campaign: it's funny, but powder doesn't help Spanish too much when fighting Aztecs, they were too few to win that war and powder in the XVI century has too little use compared with iron (or even bronze, Aztecs hadn't skills using metal). The true factor here in México (and also with the Incas) was the Aztecs were hated, so Tlaxcala (another city-state) sided with Cortés and gave him 10k soldiers. The Spanish army were at most 1k fighting against thousands of Aztecs. With the Incas was the same: two brothers fighting for the throne when Pizarro arrived. I don't thing the Aztecs could win here, but they were thougther than many believe, and Cortés had luck when Tlaxcala sided with him.
I don't know, I only play the Greek factions in Rome 2. I usually have two armies supporting each other, 1 army full of pikes and cavalry for field battles and another army of Swordsmen,archers and siege unit for capturing walled cities. Even the the levy pikemen can hold against far superior units. So, technically the pike phalanx is overpowered especially against AI who charge them head on.
in late game money is not an issue but in attila top tier units costs 500 to upkeep and a building gives only a thousand, not to mention the food and sanitation problems. in my provinces i get like 4000 usually so thats only half a stack of top tier units.
I have the new theory. Number 4 contains Melkor's *ACTUAL* voice, and he needs to edit it in every video so no one find out. But you have failed!!! Your secret is out!!! Muahahahaaaaa! We all still love you tho, squeaky boi
So with the Eastern Roman empire you said money doesn't matter but for the Juliei you said they're weaker than the other factions because they are poorer... Am I missing something?
I am not annoyed about the video or your choices for overrated factions, I am annoyed that you put cannons in front of your pikemen and gunners in your spain clip...
I think that main problem with Byzantines in Medieval 2 is that they are not that hard. Even on Very Hard you can just blitz the Turks and hold the line at Balkans and until Mongols arrive you basically have no opposition. Free to expand to the east and develop like crazy. That is not what historically happened, and it does not help that M2 has no way in implementing the main factor that was their downfall - many civil wars they waged. The campaign itself may be hard for new players, but for expirianced ones - total breeze.
I am VERY Sorry about the Mic issue for Number 4. XD
Here is what happened: The music that played before I had to edit, slightly, to avoid a copyright issue. Turns out, I must have edited my commentary for the rest of 4th Point also, and it was too late to fix by the time I noticed. Sorry, but I hope some of you found it funny at least. : )
priceless
It's pretty funny lol
Point 3
Do not inhale helium before you make an entry in a list
Mate the fact it’s a mistake makes it the funniest thing I’ve ever seen hahaha
No this needs to stay it’s just so funny
I’m sorry I just couldn’t take melkor seriously when his audio went really high 😂😂
Hitting puberty during quarantine...
And the 2nd point is presented to you by...
DRUUUUMROLLLL
Alvin and the chipmunks
it's ya boi, alvin chipmunk with another top five!
2:21 YEAH RIGHT! The audio didnt mess up here, THATS HIS ACTUAL VOICE! HES ONE OF THE COWARDLY GNOMES!!! HE ESCAPED OUT OF THE TOWERS, GET HIM!!!!
😂😂😂
1:10: "I don't really like missile cav."
20 seconds later: *recruits three units of missile cav*
Jameson Nevitt saw that too, was like wtf 😂😂
"I really don't like missile cav" This explains why he's kind of shitty at Medieval 2. Missile cav dominate in Medieval 2. You can rout whole armies with a half stack of missile cav.
I fucking love Missile Cav, especially in mods
Any mobile ranged units way too OP maybe that’s what he means? 🤷🏻 but yeah they are hella annoying only way take them out is lot of light Calvary I personally do not use them I like using infantry and bowmen
@@21Arrozito Missile cav is my favorite type of unit and Byzantine was the one to introduce me with. After that I play cavalary factions only with Russia being my No.1.
Chipmunk Melkor isn't real he can't hurt you!
Chimpmunk Melkor: 2:30
Herr Oberbesserwisser My ears oh the horror of my high pitch giggling
Me about to start my first Seluecid campaign: "They get legionnaires? Sweet!"
Jump cut to turn 30 where I've destroyed every faction around me with militia because I've been under endless sieges and cant build anything else.
Same tho, I could never get off the ground playing as the Seleucids in original RTW
@@TryToHardForFun The easist way for the seleucids is focus on egypt. Kill Egypt first, you can afford to lose every province you started with, if you kill eggy. Every other option for the seleucids is putting yourself into a harder mode.
@@boshengjones1778 Interesting strategy. How to play as the Seleucid Empire...
Step 1: Become Ptolemeic Egypt.
Step 2: Win.
You should have focused on building certain military buildings in certain cities to get to good stuff faster. For example, baracks in Antioch and archery range in Susa or Memphis. Also, being proactive about your wars helps a lot.
You can get your general in Ephesus to recruit a mercenary army and start taking settlements from there, I defeated Pontus with a ragtag group of Cretan archers, rhodian slingers, mercenary hoplites, barbarian cavalry, barbarian spearmen, scythian horsearchers and falxmen
The gods of seleucia are punishing you for your transgression melkor
Indeeed
Did i just hear Alvin the chipmunk lecture me about the selucid empire ?
It’s not the gunpowder that crushes the natives when you’re new Spain, it’s the cavalry. They have none and almost no counter to it
yup, i took an army of nothing but conquistadors and pretty much went from one side of the america's to the other. won every battle even when outnumbered by like 10:1 and overran thousands of them.
@@jamieslingsby9907 cavalry un medieval 2 is just plain dominating. Legend of total war demonstrated that
Look at the battle. Melkor has no idea how to play medieval 2 well.
He places his cavalry in reserve instead of being proactive and has his gunpowder units simply stand in front of his melee infantry until they are engaged. That way you are relying solely on melee infantry to win the battle for you which is a really bad idea. Melee infantry can be great but not for winning battles by themselves. They pin enemy units so that ranged units or cavalry can win the battle
Natives: No no no you can’t just get on horses and rout us that easily! 😡
Spamish: Jajaja, Horse does: Clop clop
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 this
Can we get more of chipmunk MELKOR?
XD
I agree, Seleucids are overrated for beginners, but for people who are experienced, they are a massive powerhouse. Definitely my favorite campaign in vanilla. Surrounded by enemies, with a powerful empire, it's really quite fun.
I would jump on Parthia immediately, driving them out of the Iranian highlands. Armenia is usually next, while holding off the Egyptians. Once Pontus is gone I can roll up Egypt and move west with the irresistible might of a tidal wave.
@@richardthomas5362 I like to do that too. Taking out the northern neighbors so that I can focus all efforts on Egypt.
I'm the one who focuses south first because after Egypt, there is no more space and have to turn back. If I go north first, turn back south, then turn back again, I would make my army March too many times and I'm just too kind of a person to not to exhaust my beloved man :)
@@zord1352 respect
I think you just kill all of them to be honest. The Seleucids are actually really strong economically.
Plot twist.
The voice got high so no one could understand the apology for underminig the SE.
How do we know it was really him? XD
Never thought Bizantium or the Seleucids as a powerful faction as i have always seen them being steamrolled by turn 6
Classic ai mismanagement
About byzantine missile cavs, their best unit of the category, the vardariotai, are excellent. Do not fear making them charge lines of archers or light infantry, they'll be fine.
Just don't forget to send a swarm of priests in any province you want to conquer...
My issue with the Vardariotai is they are too available compared to the Byzantine Lancers and Kataphraktoi which were the real powerhouses of the Byzantine Military. They have a nice roster but the way it is laid out in the campaign puts too much focus on Horse Archers when the Byzantines in real life were not as proficient in them as others, only using them as Mercs or as a hybrid type of horse archer lightly armored cav. The buildings for Cities and Castles are too focused on HA and not as much on Good infantry and cavalry which you need to go through too much work to finally get and by then it should be over. I also wish Med 2 Byzantines had actual good Spearmen because their strongest spear unit is way too damn weak for a faction that historically was pretty good with them.
I need more helium voice, I need it now!
HELP a cowardly gnome has narrated part of your video! I think you should take a look under your desk melkor.
Ha ha : )
Maybe the fez helped him.
LOL That audio glitch during Seleucid makes it sound like you are taking the piss! Haha
I thought you were about to mention Numidia... but then i remembered that numidia is not "over-rated" ... it is merely *ACCEPTED* as the most superior faction in the series
nah its armenia
@@VanadzorImSirac How dare you
@@VanadzorImSirac you ruined my childhood!
Imagine not having cataphracts #armenia
@@VanadzorImSirac Imagine being weak enough to *need* cataphracts #Numidiagang #Doesnotneedcataphracts
I mean if you are going to play the Romans in RTW you have to pick the Julii. The TRUE Romans.
True Romans? You mean the Senate, right?
I’am The Senate
@@azarlgor i dont like purple romans. Red romans are just better
Plot twist:
Melkor deliberately messed with the tone of his voice because he actually loves the Seleucids so much to the point of obsession.
Therefore picking them as an overrated faction to disguise it, but giving himself a silly voice so no one actually remembers his actual criticism.
Foolproof plan!
The Timurids. Laughs in "sallying out" then sitting behind towers to bomb their forces in impunity for an entire hour.
ERE is powerful because you don't have to fight any wars you don't want to. You can peace out of 3/4 of starting wars and end the visigoths by turn 3. Then just turtle up throwing cash at and allying sassanids and huns while your empire rakes in cash. Also with greek christianity + libraries you can max out techs way before any other playable faction making civic management and high-level troop spam trivial. I think they are misunderstood because everyone focuses on the unlimited cash thing.
The thing with spain in the americas campaign is that you can hire native mercenaries, they arent the most elite thing but they give you numbers to engage the enemy while destroying them with artillery and cabalry. So if you only count their normal roster i will agree it is very lacking, but if you count the mercenaries they are incredibly OP.
Liked bc of the audio screw up. We need more videos with helium melkor.
The Seleucid voice bit is the most hilarious thing I have heard in a while 😂😂
Thanks Melkor for your channel. I found you a few days ago before the Total War Steam sale. Watched some videos and I ended up buying all the total wars on sale on steam. Massive discount but lockdown is making me bored. I won’t be bored now. Thanks again
5:48 we’re blessed with a vision of our Lord MELKOR
MELKOR: number 5 Byzantine empire
Everybody at 20 kilometer radious: take it back, take it f*cking back
Man if only Byzantium could be assessed in its Stainless Steel form. It's so much more fleshed out and unique in it's roster than in vanilla and the campaign is also far more interesting with the addition of the Cumans into the previously barren steppe. SS Byzantium holds up.
I think a big part of Byzantium's popularity in Medieval 2 is actually due to how ridiculously overpowered they were in Medieval 1. For a lot of people it was the first faction they completed a campaign with. Then with every new game, the vets would hype the Byzantines or suggest them to new players, and it basically became a trend. I don't understand all this hate for horse archers though. Easily the best unit category in the game and the Byzantines easily have the best one. If they have a weakness, it's that their campaign is boring. It's relatively easy to complete the long campaign long before the Mongols show up. God only knows how many full stack armies of Venetian spear and crossbow militia units I slaughtered with a half stack of vards.
Wait So you didn’t ONLY put the Byzantine ONCE BUT TWICE
You were definitely paid in Turkish Coin
Was searching for this comment.
That voice change is generally the funniest thing ever
Lol. I’ve been obsessed with the Byzantine empire lately after I delved into their history a bit more. I’ve been looking high and low for every game, movie or documentary out there. Surprisingly, there’s really not much out there. Because of this I found it particularly funny when your first mention was Medieval 2’s Byzantines haha.
There are a bunch of good books about the Eastern Roman Empire.
I suggest you "Constantine XI the inmortal life of the last Roman Emperor".
Prettt good book.
PixelPixeliado P.P I’m definitely gonna check that out, thanks!
@@princeniccolo8299 Your welcome, it's pretty good. There are other books that talk about the end of the Roman Empire in 1453 against the Ottomans. But this book for me is more direct about the topic of the last emperor of the Roman Empire.
Take care buddy and enjoy the reading.
@@princeniccolo8299 Read John Julius Norwich’s “Byzantium”. It’s a 3-volume history from the Tetrarchy to the fall of Constantinople. It’s also available as a condensed 1-volume “A Short History of Byzantium”
The Seleucid starting position is actually great. Because they're centrally located they can just expand in every direction and conquer the entire southeastern third of the map.
MELKOR: We have Byzantium...
Anyone with good character: So you have chosen DISLIKE
But for real, thx Melkor, u made me chuckle
Your editing and video creativity have really gone up a level. Great to see. Was so much fun to watch.
WHAAAAT ??????
SELEUCIDS?????????
I'M DONE
*TRIGERRED*
Chipmunk Melkor! Is something I didn't know I needed to hear.
Melkor took a deep, deep breath before posting this video
Oh Yes! XD
I really like your Donald Duck interpretation.
Your next video should be entirely in that chipmunk voice, that was hilarious.
NO NOT THE SELEUCIDS!!!!! Dont you dare!!
Stil love your content btw.
I do agree the Seleucids have a tough position, but it does make for a fun campaign
Same thoughts
Exactly. I would go so far as to call it the "ultimate" Rome: Total War campaign for that and a few related reasons; maybe that's just me.
The selleucid empire is good, IN THE LATE GAME. But really, in the early game, they suffer under novice/ new players
I couldn't hear anything you said about the Seleucid Empire over the sound of my laughter XD
This was worth it just for the squeaky voice. Can you do a helium- intoxicated stream/video?
XD
2:33 I like the chipmunk sound of Melkor XDD
Melkor is very smart. As a northern boy, he knowS the secret to calming the seleucid fanboys by drinking yorkshire tea and inhaling helium to divert anger with humour
Criticizes Seleucid Empire - promptly has audio struck down and sounds like he's inhaling helium for the rest of his point... ;)
did you just call "byzanrium" the "successor" of the roman empire??? Byzantium IS the roman empire....
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Melkor in number 4: Prepares to explain why the Seleucids are over rated
Audio mess up
Seleucids fans: *Well, well, well...*
amateur , i play the Julii conquer northern italy and Salona & Segesta for the mines ,save some money for a few turns, recruit 3 armies as soon as possible bankrupting myself in the process
sent one of them with ships straight to egypt
one of them to carthage and one to greece trying to steal as much land from the scipii and brutii as possible and than i focus on the barbarians at the end :)
P.S. if you want something greater than a victory
if you conquer 50 regions and get both senate and people to max approval you will get a message that you are Romulus Reborn , which is such a high honor, i count it higher than victory , especially since most dont that this message even exist
Surprised Holy Roman Empire from M2TW and Teutonic dlc wasn’t considered, I love being them (zweihanders are neat) but I think they are over rated
Just wanted to say that Byzantium isn’t a successor state to Rome, but a continuation of the Roman Empire. Not the same.
Juli is as dull as you want to make it, I like sending an army over to Greece and trying to snag some wonders first, send 1 to Egypt early on grab their capital.
We all saw this coming
Most underrated faction - Carthage, it's rated very highly, but for it's glory, no rating is good enough
I would say Rome in Rise of the Republic.
Don't get me wrong , it's my favourite mini campaign in the series alongside Charlemagne and i enjoy Camillus faction a lot but i have seen very few people actively using the reformed roman military as the starting hopilite based roster is quite usefull; and getting the reformed units should be the main point of RoTR.
Yeah, I get what you mean. I just got really anxious that somehow the Principes and Triarii are gonna be worse than the Centurae and the hoplites. (I just got base game Rorarii PTSD) so I waited quite a while to recruit them. Until I managed to defeat an entire migrating horde with just the reformed garrison. After that I just completely autoresloved my way through Taras and the Greeks.
The Julii gets tedious because I like to play semi-historically and mirror Rome’s expansion. Half the time, the Britons have engulfed the Germans and have expanded all the way to Russia. The rest of the campaign until the civil wars is nothing but Gauls, Spaniards and Britons. It just gets dull.
So.
Melkor is secretly a Chipmunk.
Who knew?
It's just money? Money wins wars my friend.
you need 3 things in war, money, money, and more money
Chipmunk MELKOR was not what I came for but it is what I stayed for.
MELKOR you killed me with that "unlike/unsubscribe" clip LMAO
2:24 Hahaha I like it the sound that way
Massalia modded is a beast one of the only times I painted the map was with them.
Hold on, how do you select multiple units and disband them all at once like you did with the Seleucid milita cav? I need to know how to do that so badly, the endless clicking is draining my soul.
"But melkor whats with the dwarfs from warham.... . "
Gets killed by Medival 2 fans.
M2TW>>>Warhammer
i also dont really like missile cav...if i have any sort of missile unit i want them to be behind my melee units, while my cavarly flank the enemy, but with missile cav..not only is it not fit of being behind my units, it also doesnt charge at my enemies, i expect my cavarly to be able to smash into the enemies sides..sure they might be OP..i used em once before and they where very good..but i prefer a more "brute force" strat for my cav..and for my archers a support role..i cant just combine both..brute force and support is the exact opposite of eachother
I don't think I've ever heard that accent with a chipmunk voice before.
The Yorkshire accent really moved it from odd to hilarious.
If you ever do a role play game and you ever have the campaign characters talk please use that super high pitched audio.
THat could be funny XD
Another fantastic video!!! Keep up the good work!
You hitting byzantines and selucids killed me
Your "there goes the other 50%" was fkn hilarious too
Good job man
SPain in Kingdoms depends on one thing, and one thing only: do you know enough about how the morale system works to stack enough bonuses to make EVERYTHING rout the second it gets into melee? If yes, it's a cakewalk. If not, you're gonna have a bad time. It's like Apaches, but with easier setup and not quite as crazy late game.
@Melkor I bought Rome 2 and Attila thanks to the sale, with all DLC. Which faction do you think I should start with for my first Rome 2 play through?
Rome for sure. It's designed to be New Player Freindly :)
MELKOR Thanks, I just wanted to know because it is very different from the older titles. Also I agree with what you said about the Julii, during my first play through, I almost lost the civil war because I had all of these undeveloped barbarian regions where I couldn’t recruit troops
When I play a roman faction I intentionally expand in the wrong direction because I know the AI isn't going to try and take my own stomping ground off me and it strangles one of my rivals early.
Lol, you put your artillery in front of your infantry when you had a literal hilltop right behind you to put them on.
You could do some videos on Third Age: Divide and Conquer to get some new topics 😃
And you don't know how to play Spain in America's. You have Conquistadors. They broke every unit in fight one against five. The Spanish dragoons are also one of the most powerful units. You can't use gunpowder in Med 2.
It makes sense really for the byzantines in medieval 2 to be on the list considering at the starting date of the game, the Byzantines had already lost most of their territory in real life by then.The Selucids in Rome 1 since it begins shortly after the pyrrhic wars had already ended so they still had most of their territory.The Selucids either way were still able to even give the Romans a run for their money.The Spanish though sure may have had superior technology to the aztecs but there were other factors to keep in mine.the rest of them what else is there to say
I don't get people saying Julii is bad because of the position, you know what exist? A boat, you can use them too and go into greece yourself. It doesn't have to be the brutii.
I know of that strategy, but tried to ignore it for this video.
As, otherwise, then every Roman Faction is identical, because under an experienced player, any can flip onto any front.
@@MelkorGG fair enough
I forget that byzantium has no gunpowder unis
holy shit 2:20 MELKOR on drugs
Hope for #1 Teutonic Order in Teutonic Campaign
France in Med 2. My friend swears up and down they are the best but I have beaten him with every faction in MP. Including the Aztecs.
They are the best you're just the better player
With the Julii you only capture barbarian settlements who are not very populated, so you need to constantly keep a strong presence in the city or the town, slowing your advance
MELKOR: Seleucids are overrated.
Me: Where is my silver shield?!
Did you see? Your comment was one of the ones in the intro to that section! XD
Basically melkor wanted stop Seleucid fanboys from getting angry so he deliberately inhaled helium to deliver the faction overview
About the Spanish campaign: it's funny, but powder doesn't help Spanish too much when fighting Aztecs, they were too few to win that war and powder in the XVI century has too little use compared with iron (or even bronze, Aztecs hadn't skills using metal). The true factor here in México (and also with the Incas) was the Aztecs were hated, so Tlaxcala (another city-state) sided with Cortés and gave him 10k soldiers. The Spanish army were at most 1k fighting against thousands of Aztecs.
With the Incas was the same: two brothers fighting for the throne when Pizarro arrived.
I don't thing the Aztecs could win here, but they were thougther than many believe, and Cortés had luck when Tlaxcala sided with him.
Squeaky bum time but it's MELKOR
I don't know, I only play the Greek factions in Rome 2. I usually have two armies supporting each other, 1 army full of pikes and cavalry for field battles and another army of Swordsmen,archers and siege unit for capturing walled cities.
Even the the levy pikemen can hold against far superior units. So, technically the pike phalanx is overpowered especially against AI who charge them head on.
Humble Pelican depends of the difficulty and some mods
Bizantine empire is great. Location difficulty it's all great and a very on replay since you can expand to multiple sides.
What I could replay if I expand all the sides at once? :P
@@zord1352 if you can expand equally on all sides while playing in the hardest level, then I salute you.
in late game money is not an issue but in attila top tier units costs 500 to upkeep and a building gives only a thousand, not to mention the food and sanitation problems. in my provinces i get like 4000 usually so thats only half a stack of top tier units.
Just say the cowardly gnomes took over part of the video
I have the new theory. Number 4 contains Melkor's *ACTUAL* voice, and he needs to edit it in every video so no one find out. But you have failed!!! Your secret is out!!! Muahahahaaaaa!
We all still love you tho, squeaky boi
So with the Eastern Roman empire you said money doesn't matter but for the Juliei you said they're weaker than the other factions because they are poorer... Am I missing something?
I love the way you edit. I appreciate the effort that you put in those vids
I am not annoyed about the video or your choices for overrated factions, I am annoyed that you put cannons in front of your pikemen and gunners in your spain clip...
Missile cavalry are damn right unstoppable if you use them correctly against the AI. That's why I limit my use of them to actually make the games fun.
Tbh I kinda missed Chipmunk MELKOR once No. 3 rolled around.
I think that main problem with Byzantines in Medieval 2 is that they are not that hard.
Even on Very Hard you can just blitz the Turks and hold the line at Balkans and until Mongols arrive you basically have no opposition. Free to expand to the east and develop like crazy.
That is not what historically happened, and it does not help that M2 has no way in implementing the main factor that was their downfall - many civil wars they waged.
The campaign itself may be hard for new players, but for expirianced ones - total breeze.