Nice comparison! Torque is missing in the S2k, that's the reason, why the 335 gets away faster at higher speeds. Nevertheless a legend and quite expensive now.
Ethanmeister Guys, forget the bullshit and look on the Honda side, it has 180kW at the wheels from the factory naturally aspirated, add a pair of snails and you'll have a whopass pleasure.
My buddy at work has a 335 just like this one (stock af) and I have an ap2 s2k. After driving it, it felt very quick so I'm surprised to see you keep up like you did. But it also felt like a damn boat with stock Suspension compared to the s2k. Two cars that couldn't be more different.
S2k Also take into account this 335i is running a piggyback tune plus an upgraded intake. The biggest reason it was such a close race is because the 335i's heavy convertible hardtop.
Can you please comment your opinion with the medalion touring? I'm looking for no drone, quiet while idling/cruising type of exhaust. Let me know please. Thanks!
The medallion with berk test pipe (my setup) is EXACTLY what you are looking for based on your description. Zero drone, extremely quiet while idling/cruising and sounds like a formula 1 car in vtec
Be think twice. E93 bmw is far far LOAF HEAVIER than very LIGHTLY Ass S2000. and only 90 horsepower more than s2k plus FAR HEAVIER. so s2k sucks. mine bmw 535I 620 rwhp RB TURBO (evo) ❤❤❤
Pulling from a low speed the hondas usually pull faster and harder, but the bigger cars will always catch up.. slap a small turbo for some quick spooling at about 10lbs of boost, nicely tuned, then the honda will come alive in higher speeds. But that's the only disadvantage of NA hondas.. they top out fast from no more power
Revving out to 8400rpm is something unto its own. The s2000 is more driver oriented; and for those that are seeking driving pleasure, they'd be hard pressed to find something similar considering price.
Compared to the average car yes! But still, at the limit they are not set up for canyon carving so to speak.. My father owns a 328i and its a great commuter car but between it's body roll and understeer it is not what I would want out of a drivers car. However with some upgraded springs and sway bars that can all be resolved..
wuz beast Actually, I‘ve owned two 335i’s (not the one in this video) and two S2000’s. I sold both 335i’s and one S2000 and bought a F80 M3. I still own the S2000 in this video but she’s a garage queen.
I recently just raced my '07 stock 335i vs a 2004 S2000 with intake and downpipes. He said car had around 240 horsepower with mods, but after the race I looked up details and that's the power it puts down as stock, so with mods it would have around 270-280. We only had the chance to race from a 20 mph roll and he pulled on me a decent distance and won. Any tips for me if I race again? This was my first actual set up race. Thanks
Your right they come with 240hp from factory and rev up to 8-9k rpm depending what year s2000. My advice is get intakes and exhaust upgrade along with a tune and you'll be keeping up with the big dogs
brah brah wth you talking about, you know nothing about cars then, g race a stock 335 and then come cry to papa. cause it will own your ass in any shape or form
Definitely agree! it beat ferrari with the most hp per litter when it came out. But this is the f22. it is a 2.2liter, and the bmw is an n54 in line six.
CrAzYNooBB55 it's a possibility since its a great road race car. I have really never seen one with bolt ons and cams plus final drive. I think that setup would be good for 12s NA.
+Helmut Green i think the bmw having an i-6, 2x turbos 60 more hp out the box (better engineered) and 300 ft-lbs @1,400rpms in addition to the JB4 tune reeeeeeeeeeeeally helps pull away from the bolt on 2.2l with 162 ft-lbs/tq. i mean i dont know if power, torque & gear ratios have anything to do with winning a race...
+Helmut Green the jb4 tune itself adds 100hp to an already 300hp car (279.9whp stock) 400hp tt bimmer vs 237hp 162 ft/lb honda with an intake exhaust & test pipe. ive seen jb4's making between 362ft/lbs - 472ft/lbs depending on the mods, no way the s2k could keep up
1st - its a 2.2L 2nd - the 335i has a JB4 (map 5) which puts it around 350 WHP. The S2000 probably has around 210WHP if that. Now I'd say the S2000 did quite well against the 335i, probably shouldve lost by many more car lengths IMO.
Well to bad it isn’t like that, right? 🤷🏽♂️ it’s like saying “ damn Ford Focus ST vs Honda s2k... take that STOCK turbo off and put it on the s2k and see what happens “ just doesn’t make sense.
+Joseph C. I plan on getting a s2000 at some point, too. Its one of the best cars even built period. Look it up there are several 600-700+ whp stock block f series. These are on the best fuel and best parts and amazing tuner. a good tuner and good fuel goes a long way. I went to a dyno day not to long ago "dynojet" and its a low reading dyno by a lot. I seen turbo LS swap making around 500whp and several different cars making under 500 and a 335 with similar mods to the ones you mentioned made 550whp.
+Joseph C. considering the mods of both of these I'm surprise the s2k kept up the way it did. Right now I'm running a 4gen prelude with a f20b swap about as fast as this s2k.
+Joseph C. All you need is a nice turbo set up,bigger fuel pump and injectors and a really good tune to make around 500+whp and that's all you really need in these light weight cars because remember hp doesn't always matter power to weight ratio is very important too so don't worry if a bmw makes 600whp an s2000 with less hp can most likely. Outrun bmw with more hp because of the power to weight ratio,not trying to talk shit on bmw because I like bmws myself but just stating facts
+Joseph C. Head over to s2ki to see the hundreds of boosted owners running stock engine/transmission putting down over 500whp with no issues. I was just at 350whp for a couple years and I'm now at 535whp on e85 and waiting on a new fuel pump (limiting factor in my setup) for 600+whp. Engine is stock except for ap2 retainers (i have an ap1). Total cost of my current setup is around $6000 including the $450 tune and $1200 hondata ecu. Also about to have my differential built for $1400 so i can floor it in 2nd without worrying about it breaking lol
i feel the s2k shoulda done better just my opinion 8k rev distributes the power faster and its a 2.2 liter inline 4 vtec its a very nice and decent speedy fun car if u ask me ;)
guys, you do realize the convertible 335 is a Fuck loaf heavier. a stock coupe 335i can beat the convertible. my stock 335i sedan beat a s2000 yesterday.
jdizzzo7 Park Avenues are definietly not the best to look at, but it's just that much better beating 4.6 mustangs, older 5.0 mustangs and sports cars in a granny car, and mines not even supercharged! Buicks in the late 90s and early 2000s were definitely sleepers, looks like shit but the look on peoples faces when they get destroyed by a car for grandma is priceless!
wow nice camera and it's position I feel like I am driving
More like sitting back seat
Your car sounds awesome! And to keep up with a tuned twin turbo 335i is very impressive. I had no idea s2k's were that quick
+Hugh Jayness yes it is, all 335s are twin turbos. It's a chipped twin turbo also, likely 400hp, 350 to the wheels.
Yea i ran the exact same way with my ap2 against a 335i
Ap1 is quicker
The BMW put a full bus length on that S2000 by 110MPH...He got gapped bad if im being honest, but I did expected that. lol
@@AndyMartin92 no its not, it has less hp and torque
Awesome video mate... very clear
Nice comparison! Torque is missing in the S2k, that's the reason, why the 335 gets away faster at higher speeds. Nevertheless a legend and quite expensive now.
No too soon jr here! Shocked the NA four banger could stay within reach. Great cars both of them.
Yeah you had no chance in the S2k going into this man. Sounds glorious though
For an NA car it held its own
WHERE IS THAT TUNNEL!!!!
I used to have an S2000. Great fun car. Would be nice to see a comeback with a more powerful engine.
I just got a wrx after having my si for a decade. Damn I miss this sound. I'm getting a s2000.
The S2000 is so much of a funner car to drive and not many to be had. The S2000 for sure if I were to pick between the 2.
Damn good show from the s2000.....
Right? with a small tune those N54/55 engines can easily push 300whp
Ethanmeister Guys, forget the bullshit and look on the Honda side, it has 180kW at the wheels from the factory naturally aspirated, add a pair of snails and you'll have a whopass pleasure.
eivis13 No. S2ks make around 200-215whp from the factory depending on the dyno.
eivis13 but yes, snails do = whopass.
Ethanmeister ok, ~155kW, still more impressive than the bmw with more power and torque and a turbo
Glasses ever fly off in a convertible?
This wouldn't happen to be the silver hardtop that sits in the old Crazy Hibachi parking lot in front of Lowe's would it?
My buddy at work has a 335 just like this one (stock af) and I have an ap2 s2k. After driving it, it felt very quick so I'm surprised to see you keep up like you did. But it also felt like a damn boat with stock Suspension compared to the s2k. Two cars that couldn't be more different.
S2k Also take into account this 335i is running a piggyback tune plus an upgraded intake. The biggest reason it was such a close race is because the 335i's heavy convertible hardtop.
335 stock is sick.. they are so powerfull..
Can you please comment your opinion with the medalion touring?
I'm looking for no drone, quiet while idling/cruising type of exhaust. Let me know please. Thanks!
The medallion with berk test pipe (my setup) is EXACTLY what you are looking for based on your description. Zero drone, extremely quiet while idling/cruising and sounds like a formula 1 car in vtec
1:23 best music I've heard.
I wonder if it even was an 335i... I took like 3 s2000 on a stock e39 530i...
that s2000 looks like a blast to drive.
You reliaze that this bimmer has around 400hp? If this was a stock 335, it would loose pretty badly.
N54 335I JB4 Map 5 with only a BMS DCI and Exhaust is only around ~370hp. You would only get +400 or so if it has a BMS Flash, and its on E85 fuel.
Be think twice. E93 bmw is far far LOAF HEAVIER than very LIGHTLY Ass S2000. and only 90 horsepower more than s2k plus FAR HEAVIER. so s2k sucks. mine bmw 535I 620 rwhp RB TURBO (evo) ❤❤❤
not 400. around 370 hp same as my 535i but look at 335I is fucking far MORE HEAVIER 900 lbs heavier way heavy and still handle it.
What mic setup you using with your GoPro? External one?
Has a nice sound. And cool ass camera position i 2nd that
The s2000. One of Honda's legendary car besides the nsx
Pulling from a low speed the hondas usually pull faster and harder, but the bigger cars will always catch up.. slap a small turbo for some quick spooling at about 10lbs of boost, nicely tuned, then the honda will come alive in higher speeds. But that's the only disadvantage of NA hondas.. they top out fast from no more power
who modded the ap2? is the s2k in limp mode at all because of the mods, maybe o2 sensor or something, or was it running in tip top shape?
Nice roads. Wheres this at?
This looks a lot like Mobile Bridge I-10. Im from Fairhope myself. Peaceful little town. Great road for racing. Look forward to taking my R6 there
+MrMittenshasatophat It is Mobile to Daphne I-10
Honda S2000s have the BEST camera viewing angle on the planet, it feels like I'm freaking playing a game yo lol
Damm impressive for the s2k nicee
Is he double clutching through out up and down shifting ?
Revving out to 8400rpm is something unto its own. The s2000 is more driver oriented; and for those that are seeking driving pleasure, they'd be hard pressed to find something similar considering price.
Drew I would say a 3 series is pretty driver oriented too
Compared to the average car yes! But still, at the limit they are not set up for canyon carving so to speak.. My father owns a 328i and its a great commuter car but between it's body roll and understeer it is not what I would want out of a drivers car. However with some upgraded springs and sway bars that can all be resolved..
did you used to own the 335 then now own the s2000?? i have a 335 right now im about to sell it and get an s2000
wuz beast Actually, I‘ve owned two 335i’s (not the one in this video) and two S2000’s. I sold both 335i’s and one S2000 and bought a F80 M3. I still own the S2000 in this video but she’s a garage queen.
That's sick man do you have an instagram?
wuz beast instagram.com/coltonsims/
I recently just raced my '07 stock 335i vs a 2004 S2000 with intake and downpipes. He said car had around 240 horsepower with mods, but after the race I looked up details and that's the power it puts down as stock, so with mods it would have around 270-280. We only had the chance to race from a 20 mph roll and he pulled on me a decent distance and won. Any tips for me if I race again? This was my first actual set up race. Thanks
Your right they come with 240hp from factory and rev up to 8-9k rpm depending what year s2000. My advice is get intakes and exhaust upgrade along with a tune and you'll be keeping up with the big dogs
get the jb4 and with Bolt ons and you'll be pushing some good power
some nice cams and a small shot of nitrous with a tune and the s2k would be hurting feelings
a lil 50 shot for the stock bmw will own a 50 shot s2000. ohh yeahh baby boy
sweet vid tho, that bmw is faster than I expected lol. Yo is that the modifry attachment next to the steering wheel?
brah brah wth you talking about, you know nothing about cars then, g race a stock 335 and then come cry to papa. cause it will own your ass in any shape or form
This would be more interesting with a 330i or and n52 with a 330i manifold swap and tune.
Nice races! Get that honda tuned with a flashpro and i bet you'll stay neck and neck with the bimmer
S2000 driver shifting so calm and collected lol when the vtec pop the bullshit stop
damn love the s2k
smooth shifting on second run
Where's the vtec, yo!
S2000 sounds sooo good!!!
I think the s2k kept up pretty good for it only being a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder. That bmw is a 3.0 v6! and the s2k was still creeping on him
Definitely agree! it beat ferrari with the most hp per litter when it came out. But this is the f22. it is a 2.2liter, and the bmw is an n54 in line six.
where is that road!?
Not bad, 4 cylinder naturally aspirated vs a 6 cylinder turbo.
Nice POV.
Turbos kicked in yooooo!!!!!!!!!
did you add your bolt ons or bought it with them,any difference before and after?
+f2b.....f20bEG f2b why dont u get a s2k ?
CrAzYNooBB55 it's a possibility since its a great road race car. I have really never seen one with bolt ons and cams plus final drive. I think that setup would be good for 12s NA.
f2b.....f20bEG yea like high 12's,.
I raced on of these yesterday 2nd , 3rd , 4th. I expected some 3.0l engine to be much faster. Was the same as this. I hope i have the vid.
The reason is that they have a short delay on the 335i. Lots of people dont know that. With a simple tuned you can take that off.
s2000 is going to shine more on a track with turns, not in a straight line as much. it is a cornering machine
Lets not forget the s2000 isn't only a 4 cylinder, normal aspirated engine. I laugh when turbos win and I'm in there rear view mirror.
BMW manual or auto? It looks like you lose to him when shifting.
+Helmut Green i think the bmw having an i-6, 2x turbos 60 more hp out the box (better engineered) and 300 ft-lbs @1,400rpms in addition to the JB4 tune reeeeeeeeeeeeally helps pull away from the bolt on 2.2l with 162 ft-lbs/tq. i mean i dont know if power, torque & gear ratios have anything to do with winning a race...
+Helmut Green the jb4 tune itself adds 100hp to an already 300hp car (279.9whp stock) 400hp tt bimmer vs 237hp 162 ft/lb honda with an intake exhaust & test pipe. ive seen jb4's making between 362ft/lbs - 472ft/lbs depending on the mods, no way the s2k could keep up
Great video man
how can you think to beat a biturbo?!
335i is way way HEAVIER than s2000. and handle it
yes, in corners you have an advantage..on straight only engine make the difference
+frapparm Yeah
Honda the power of dreams
good try but you can't verse the more expensive bmw with a bigger motor and turbo to a honda 4 cyl. 2.0 lol
..you can't "verse" it?
Do you even English, bro?
1st - its a 2.2L
2nd - the 335i has a JB4 (map 5) which puts it around 350 WHP. The S2000 probably has around 210WHP if that. Now I'd say the S2000 did quite well against the 335i, probably shouldve lost by many more car lengths IMO.
Erik Schroeher i think he was referring to the first gen s2k, it had a 2.0 engine, the newer (post 04 i think) had a 2.2
eivis13 Yea this is a ap2
hey your right. considering how low power it had it held its own pretty well.
S2000 did well with just bolt on. BMW with map still slow lol. Do another race with map for S2000.
Vanos kicked in YOO!
you're really racing with the top down ? :( come on bro
hektik1984 oh you both are lol. i guess thats fair then..
+hektik1984 does it really make a difference, never owned a convertible. Im looking into getting an s2k
Jorge Ramirez beat a charger r/t by a car length with the top up .. with it down beat it by a hair..
yes. you are pretty much creating a drag fighting against the wind when you race with the top down.
@i hit bombs against an R/T the type s would loose. My friend had one, their quick tho.
S2000 vs 335i
2.0l NA VS 3.0l biturbo??
Really??
Try s2000 turbo vs 335i..
No chance for the bmw
Well to bad it isn’t like that, right? 🤷🏽♂️ it’s like saying “ damn Ford Focus ST vs Honda s2k... take that STOCK turbo off and put it on the s2k and see what happens “ just doesn’t make sense.
Sweet race
Damm imagine a s2k turbo tuned omg ill be gone
+Joseph C. the s2000 is capable of holding a lot of power on stock block. They're some 700+ rwhp s2000 running stock block.
+Joseph C. I plan on getting a s2000 at some point, too. Its one of the best cars even built period. Look it up there are several 600-700+ whp stock block f series. These are on the best fuel and best parts and amazing tuner.
a good tuner and good fuel goes a long way.
I went to a dyno day not to long ago "dynojet" and its a low reading dyno by a lot.
I seen turbo LS swap making around 500whp and several different cars making under 500 and a 335 with similar mods to the ones you mentioned made 550whp.
+Joseph C. considering the mods of both of these I'm surprise the s2k kept up the way it did. Right now I'm running a 4gen prelude with a f20b swap about as fast as this s2k.
+Joseph C. All you need is a nice turbo set up,bigger fuel pump and injectors and a really good tune to make around 500+whp and that's all you really need in these light weight cars because remember hp doesn't always matter power to weight ratio is very important too so don't worry if a bmw makes 600whp an s2000 with less hp can most likely. Outrun bmw with more hp because of the power to weight ratio,not trying to talk shit on bmw because I like bmws myself but just stating facts
+Joseph C. Head over to s2ki to see the hundreds of boosted owners running stock engine/transmission putting down over 500whp with no issues. I was just at 350whp for a couple years and I'm now at 535whp on e85 and waiting on a new fuel pump (limiting factor in my setup) for 600+whp. Engine is stock except for ap2 retainers (i have an ap1). Total cost of my current setup is around $6000 including the $450 tune and $1200 hondata ecu. Also about to have my differential built for $1400 so i can floor it in 2nd without worrying about it breaking lol
Para esa wuea no subo videos
直線で勝負したいならスープラとかの方が良くね？何でコーナリングマシンのS2000を買ったのか超疑問。
i feel the s2k shoulda done better just my opinion 8k rev distributes the power faster and its a 2.2 liter inline 4 vtec its a very nice and decent speedy fun car if u ask me ;)
That can't be a tuned 335i my g37 with fbo and tune accelerates a lot quicker than the s2k from the speedo
John Padron so?
lucas luck jb4 tuner is good for another 100 hp , 400hp with power everywhere in the power band that would shit on my g37 and that s2k
Those moccasins in the passenger seat cost you at least 50hp. Ditch those and rematch.
guys, you do realize the convertible 335 is a Fuck loaf heavier. a stock coupe 335i can beat the convertible. my stock 335i sedan beat a s2000 yesterday.
s2k is not about power. its about having fun.
to your point all convertible car is heaver than hard top.
Lance Evans I hear that man. I have what I believe to be a stock 07 335i sedan and i can put a serious hurting on cars pushing out over 400 hp.
328i and 335i always try to have fun with me and end up surprised at how well I keep up and pull away in MY04 s2000 :]
baby 328 is a lil fam sports car but you will never pull away from a 335 twun turbo. you prabaply raced a 325 or 323
He still had fun.
I toy with Hondas in my n54 430bhp beamer
Not bad for a little 4 zylinder N/A 😉
HONDA COMO SIEMPRE SONANDO BONITO Y DANDO VERGUENZA
Have you seen top gear ...... you have the wrong car it allways been a Honda S2000 over any convertible lol. Love the s2000
Good race
You need to be quick on the gear changing
s2000 ' i suren adamın eli fitese erken gıdıyo .)
good video :) nice compare
You cannot compare 240 hp with 306 hp...
+marco polo 3000turbo vs 2000 na
cool ass video
335i is way HEAVIER and handle it. more power yeah but way HEAVIER.
Definately not jb4 tuned
and no turbo, only vtec...
Walked.
nice shoes
Without JB4, that 335i would be in the dust. Amazed how he didnt go in Fail-Safe Mode like 90% of JB4 owners endure
Use map 7 the Honda will disappeared
winner is honda s2000
s2000 need a New driver
shut up you probably cant drive for shit.
+Paul Alexander hahahahaha I'm a most complete driver in the world,fuckin ıdea
+Paul Alexander took the words right outta my mouth 👌🏽
Wow...my 1998 Buick Park Avenue could destroy both of those. STOCK
jdizzzo7
Park Avenues are definietly not the best to look at, but it's just that much better beating 4.6 mustangs, older 5.0 mustangs and sports cars in a granny car, and mines not even supercharged! Buicks in the late 90s and early 2000s were definitely sleepers, looks like shit but the look on peoples faces when they get destroyed by a car for grandma is priceless!
sorry idk why i was being a dick lol. if its faster than the douchebags its fine by me
dont compare mustangs 5.0 to a bmw that is twin turbo. stock 2007 bmw will do a lot faster then a new mustang. nd am sure you wt smoke a new mustag
Lol mais pousse tes rapports tu conduis comme si t'avais un diesel ..... C'est une s2000 merde ....
Get hondata dude
+ep3217 he's got one helluva point
s2000 lost cuz guy doesnt know how to shift. even m3 has no chance agains F22 Bomb
+AGA 34 Stop talking shit.... it was obvious that s2k will loose, but this video was to show by how much
Buuu la mierda de honda mas lento mete todos los canvios y recien va a 100
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