I grew up about 45 min east of you and I remember doing recoveries like this you’d lose a whole day trying to get it out and not get yourself stuck, that muck is some crazy stuff
Holy smokes..... Awesome save on the sprayer and a very good video of how unpredictable muck ground is. When it comes to sprayer recovery, you are the man 👍.
Final thought............. I'd mention to that field owner to get ahold of good ole Russel in his bi-plane from Winamac to do some crop dusting...😁. Hell of a good guy.
You are correct. Farmers call those skinny tires "pizza cutters", and you can see why in this video. Those skinny tires are only 380 mm (15 inches) wide. Floater tires are the answer. Floater tires come in either 650 mm or 720 mm widths and are quite common. Floater tires would allow that sprayer to go places that tractor and wagon wouldn't even think about. The only reason to run skinnys is in row crops where you have to go down rows of crops that are up, floaters would be too wide and would drive on the crop. Obviously the floater tires and rims are another cost but that Miller sprayer new, is $500,000. What's another $20,000 for the floaters.
the muck strikes again! I could not believe how the ground shook when you were compressing the sand into the deep tire tracks from the sprayer! it was like pudding! that is so bad! it was neat how the sprayer climbed out of the pit with the sand.the thin tires seem to cut right into the muck! but they are necessary for the rows where the plants are growing. very nice video, you always amaze how skilled with heavy equipment you are Brandon. stay safe!
Glad you got it out it finally rained this morning here in southern Indiana I got 4+ inches in two hours wish it would have came slower but it is what it is thanks for sharing
I'm thinking a similar trailer with a tank and a pump... drain the sprayer, pull it out, load it back up... rinse out the tank for next time.. The Drive system looked bad on the sprayer-- it won't pull the tires..
It only had 200 gallon on it my solution quit stop using 40,000lbs sprayers out in the muck that's why I bought the 765 Wilmar it's light weight and nimble
I would do soil samples an turn parts into sod an rice an then muck out the deepest part an sell the Pete an raise cat fish an build an rv park around it an invest in a nice tow truck lol them rv pepole will drive where signs say do not enter $$$$ big dollars pulling them out
I done told y'all to stay out of them places... Was the sprayer loaded and if so why didn't you pump it out? That is what we do if we have one go down that bad. Looks like you have it down to a science now. Never seen ground quiver like that that wasn't in a swamp. Good thing folks have y'all around to rescue them. That could have turned out real bad.
Hope they got educated on not taking a heavy Miller sprayer in the deep muck. They need to get a Deere sprayer with duals on it. Thought you were going to have to put an excavator on each side and carry it to the road.
I would think about having two sets of tires for a sprayer, one set big for early work before crops are in/through the ground and another set that can fit between rows if that was necessary. However, I realize that would be expensive and difficult to put-on/take off. In reality the tires on that sprayer are probably like a 13.6-46 or 42 so big is relative.
I didnt mentioned in the video but 15 years ago the tiles were all cut because this property was put in to a CRP program and part of the program was it had to be returned to its natural state before being farmed so all tile lines had to be cut and dug out from the ditch 20ft out I know this because I did the job long story short land owner retired and now wants to hobby farm this piece....should have re tiled it first lol but even with the tiles it's always been a very rough farm to farm
? I’ve carted both sugar cane and cotton we used floatation tyres on our trucks and those old junkers where junk but 20 ton on wet ground no problems yeah we go stuck but mostly unload bins and the other truck pulled you out
It's muck with peat moss under it that's why it's so spongy this area was very swampy at one time....the problem with any sort of hay on muck is when it's a wet year it's tough to get the hay to dry down
Question: is this a normal occurrence in that field or is the problem just something to happen because of the weather? If so is there a solution to the issue with the soft soil.
Normal occurrence the problem farm equipment just keeps getting bigger and heavier this is the kind of ground you farm with smaller equipment....there are 2 solutions we have found for muck 1 is to plow it out with the dozers haul in sand about a foot thick then put the muck back over or 2 haul 6 inches of sand over the top and chisel plow it in both ways work very well
@@dirtgrainsteel What about those very narrow tires on the sprayer? They’ve got to be a major contributing factor. Wouldn’t a sprayer with multiple wide tires or tracks solve the problem or at least reduce the number of times it gets stuck? That one event brought a screeching halt to productivity for a lot of people Not being critical. I’m just trying to understand why you’d keep running the same equipment into the same soggy field and not expect the same results each time 🤷♂️
@@alanbierhoff6831 On is just the pure weight of the machine your talking about 38 to 40K pounds when load. The Hyundai is about 50k to 54K pounds. You see hoe much it was sinking it as well They might be able to put wider tires on the sprayer this are row crop tires so if it is farmer that a lot of extra money to have in tire. Lots of option just non that are cheap and will work 100%.
Why is buddy even out there on skinnys? Doesn't look to be any crop poking thru he should be on floaters. And by the looks of that dirt, like 800/r38 floaters
My brother was 4 yrs old. We got a sales ad from john deere. It showed hydraulic cylinders. I asked my brother what's that his answer was klinders. He had never been to school, that was how he pronounced cylinder.
I know that those sprayers have narrow tires for in crop spraying on them, but in muck like that why aren't they still using the old flotation style sprayers? They're basically running a pizza cutter over Jello with those narrow tires over soft muck like that. It's a wonder that they don't get stuck even more often than they do with conditions like that.
There very few Terragator in the spraying end theses days mostly used for dry application There don't have the speed , boom size, or ground clearance. It is a number game. The faster you can spray the cheaper it is, Miller has up to 120 foot booms Terragtor is 85 foot. Not a lot or framer can afford both or really want both and the coop does what works best for them 90% of the time. Sure they could have the Terragotor it the spring but you can't run wide tires down a framer filed and take out a few rows of crop. You need the skinny tires for that.
I'll bet more than once you've been tempted to just take your bucket and give one of those rigs a shove. Of course they'd fall apart like they're made of legos.
It's like trying to farm on a lily pad in the middle of a lake , that's how soft it is
Yes it's very soft!
Your a great neighbor
Crazy recovery great video thanks Brandon and George and everyone else
Thank you!
I grew up about 45 min east of you and I remember doing recoveries like this you’d lose a whole day trying to get it out and not get yourself stuck, that muck is some crazy stuff
Yeah that's the trick keeping your self afloat lol
What a pain in the well you know
Been there more than once always fun
Holy smokes..... Awesome save on the sprayer and a very good video of how unpredictable muck ground is. When it comes to sprayer recovery, you are the man 👍.
Final thought............. I'd mention to that field owner to get ahold of good ole Russel in his bi-plane from Winamac to do some crop dusting...😁. Hell of a good guy.
I’m a little surprised that the sprayer has such narrow tires given the conditions it is operating in.
Good work!
You are correct. Farmers call those skinny tires "pizza cutters", and you can see why in this video. Those skinny tires are only 380 mm (15 inches) wide. Floater tires are the answer. Floater tires come in either 650 mm or 720 mm widths and are quite common. Floater tires would allow that sprayer to go places that tractor and wagon wouldn't even think about. The only reason to run skinnys is in row crops where you have to go down rows of crops that are up, floaters would be too wide and would drive on the crop. Obviously the floater tires and rims are another cost but that Miller sprayer new, is $500,000. What's another $20,000 for the floaters.
the muck strikes again! I could not believe how the ground shook when you were compressing
the sand into the deep tire tracks from the sprayer! it was like pudding! that is so bad!
it was neat how the sprayer climbed out of the pit with the sand.the thin tires seem to cut
right into the muck! but they are necessary for the rows where the plants are growing.
very nice video, you always amaze how skilled with heavy equipment you are Brandon. stay safe!
Hi
In the muck around here some peopke use duals on the sprayer, 8 incrop tires on the sprayer to keep it from sinking
Boy what a mess. Sink holes everywhere. Tx for sharing my friend.
That’s some kind of soft,
Glad you got it out it finally rained this morning here in southern Indiana I got 4+ inches in two hours wish it would have came slower but it is what it is thanks for sharing
Great video! If the ground is that soft why not run floater tires. If even in row crops just run at a angle
Looks like the peatbog soils we have. And yeah it can be dryish, but if u break thru your screwed!
That was a tough one!
I always say when it comes to getting stuck there’s 2 kinds of people- those that have and those that will. Lol
Nice job by the recovery crew!
That rescue job, looked expensive
I wonder if yoi could make a skid out of large C channel, get the sprayer up on it and drag it out of those mucky fields like that.
I have been thinking about that concept I really think it would work!
i hope you charge a lot of $$$ for this service
holy cats, that's soft
That Brad is a cowboy, likes to have fun, all he wants to do is get stuck kind of sad
That ground was like a huge pile of jelly, I’ve never seen ground bounce like that. I wouldn’t like to farm it. Great job
they should definitely get a Terra Gator to spray that and quit messing with that row crop sprayer that’s going to get pretty expensive.
Awesome awesome job y'all did getting the sprayer out and on dryer ground be safe and always be careful doing what y'all do each and every day buddy
It almost looked like the ground was bouncing….. I have seen that before on muck in MI, even walking across is spooky…..great vid!
Up here there are some farmers have case ih sprayers that have duals on front and rear. Helps them a lot.
it looks like jello when you hit it with the bucket in that crap looks like you would need tiles every 10 feet LOL
I'm thinking a similar trailer with a tank and a pump... drain the sprayer, pull it out, load it back up... rinse out the tank for next time.. The Drive system looked bad on the sprayer-- it won't pull the tires..
It only had 200 gallon on it my solution quit stop using 40,000lbs sprayers out in the muck that's why I bought the 765 Wilmar it's light weight and nimble
That ground looked like a water bed😂
Time to give up on that field 🤷
A sprayer with wings or rotors for that field.
Yes! It needs sprayed from the air!!
Why the hell they use them narrow row crop wheels in those soft fields? There's no rows to drive through anyway, use a floatation sprayer.
There's corn that just spiked out there lol but I agree it should have wide tires on it
@@dirtgrainsteel Yea, lol, like a fat lady with high heels! lol
I would do soil samples an turn parts into sod an rice an then muck out the deepest part an sell the Pete an raise cat fish an build an rv park around it an invest in a nice tow truck lol them rv pepole will drive where signs say do not enter $$$$ big dollars pulling them out
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That was a very very good video really enjoyed that. It’s amazing how soft it is out there. Are they trying to grow corn in there😢
Thank you and yes there is corn out there it had just spiked
watching you pack that sand and you could see that ground roll like a bowel full of jelly need to just put that farm in crp and leave it there
It was in crp and needs put back in
I done told y'all to stay out of them places... Was the sprayer loaded and if so why didn't you pump it out? That is what we do if we have one go down that bad. Looks like you have it down to a science now. Never seen ground quiver like that that wasn't in a swamp. Good thing folks have y'all around to rescue them. That could have turned out real bad.
That sprayer needs tracks or wings
Hope they got educated on not taking a heavy Miller sprayer in the deep muck. They need to get a Deere sprayer with duals on it. Thought you were going to have to put an excavator on each side and carry it to the road.
It most have been a wet summer. You would think they would stay out of the wet fields with the sprayers .
To bad you couldn’t put LGP tracks on that sprayer 😢😂
That would be cool!
I would think about having two sets of tires for a sprayer, one set big for early work before crops are in/through the ground and another set that can fit between rows if that was necessary. However, I realize that would be expensive and difficult to put-on/take off. In reality the tires on that sprayer are probably like a 13.6-46 or 42 so big is relative.
Around here most sprayers do have two sets of tires. Relative to price of sprayer and this tow bill tires are not much money
Maybe they need spacers and duals on it to spread out the weight.
Or plant these fields back to perennial pasture and graze it.
Is the sprayer damaging tile lines every time it falls in
I didnt mentioned in the video but 15 years ago the tiles were all cut because this property was put in to a CRP program and part of the program was it had to be returned to its natural state before being farmed so all tile lines had to be cut and dug out from the ditch 20ft out I know this because I did the job long story short land owner retired and now wants to hobby farm this piece....should have re tiled it first lol but even with the tiles it's always been a very rough farm to farm
? I’ve carted both sugar cane and cotton we used floatation tyres on our trucks and those old junkers where junk but 20 ton on wet ground no problems yeah we go stuck but mostly unload bins and the other truck pulled you out
Why don’t the sprayers have tracks or much wider tires??
Some do some even have duals
Was that silted in river bottom? Why is it so spongy?
Perhaps this field would be better used in alfalfa or perennial pasture.
It's muck with peat moss under it that's why it's so spongy this area was very swampy at one time....the problem with any sort of hay on muck is when it's a wet year it's tough to get the hay to dry down
I'd have that sprayed with a airplane
Why do they still have the skinny's still on these sprayers? they make floatation tires and rims!!!!
Just curious, where are you located with the "muck" for fields?
Starke county Indiana
Was the sprayer broke down? It seemed like the tires werent moving very good. And it just sunk right into the ground.
It was fine they just will not spin the wheels they seem like they are very under power and they have some sort of a traction control
@@dirtgrainsteel ahh that explains it
Did they empty the product out of the sprayer???
It had about 200 gallon in it...really not enough to mess with emptying
Question: is this a normal occurrence in that field or is the problem just something to happen because of the weather? If so is there a solution to the issue with the soft soil.
Normal occurrence the problem farm equipment just keeps getting bigger and heavier this is the kind of ground you farm with smaller equipment....there are 2 solutions we have found for muck 1 is to plow it out with the dozers haul in sand about a foot thick then put the muck back over or 2 haul 6 inches of sand over the top and chisel plow it in both ways work very well
@@dirtgrainsteel
What about those very narrow tires on the sprayer? They’ve got to be a major contributing factor. Wouldn’t a sprayer with multiple wide tires or tracks solve the problem or at least reduce the number of times it gets stuck? That one event brought a screeching halt to productivity for a lot of people
Not being critical. I’m just trying to understand why you’d keep running the same equipment into the same soggy field and not expect the same results each time 🤷♂️
@@alanbierhoff6831 I agree some typ of flotation tires would be better
@@alanbierhoff6831 On is just the pure weight of the machine your talking about 38 to 40K pounds when load. The Hyundai is about 50k to 54K pounds. You see hoe much it was sinking it as well They might be able to put wider tires on the sprayer this are row crop tires so if it is farmer that a lot of extra money to have in tire. Lots of option just non that are cheap and will work 100%.
Not easy working that land
It's definitely not easy we actually farm alot of it but we farm it accordingly and know what we can and can not do on it
Where is this?
I guess you can expect to get stuck when farming a peat bog or a rice paddy. Nice recovery though.
did yas empty it out?
It had very little in it
Why is buddy even out there on skinnys? Doesn't look to be any crop poking thru he should be on floaters. And by the looks of that dirt, like 800/r38 floaters
My brother was 4 yrs old. We got a sales ad from john deere. It showed hydraulic cylinders. I asked my brother what's that his answer was klinders. He had never been to school, that was how he pronounced cylinder.
You up in Indiana?
Yes
What a mess Brandon 😢 they need to just let that go back to nature or charge people to mud bog it 😂
Putting a sprayer in a swamp with row crop tires instead of floaters. Think someone missed the boat on that one. Shouldn’t have even been out there.
I know that those sprayers have narrow tires for in crop spraying on them, but in muck like that why aren't they still using the old flotation style sprayers?
They're basically running a pizza cutter over Jello with those narrow tires over soft muck like that. It's a wonder that they don't get stuck even more often than they do with conditions like that.
Yes they definitely are doesn’t make sense!
There very few Terragator in the spraying end theses days mostly used for dry application There don't have the speed , boom size, or ground clearance. It is a number game. The faster you can spray the cheaper it is, Miller has up to 120 foot booms Terragtor is 85 foot. Not a lot or framer can afford both or really want both and the coop does what works best for them 90% of the time. Sure they could have the Terragotor it the spring but you can't run wide tires down a framer filed and take out a few rows of crop. You need the skinny tires for that.
I'll bet more than once you've been tempted to just take your bucket and give one of those rigs a shove. Of course they'd fall apart like they're made of legos.