Concept No. 5 - Tank Preview - World of Tanks
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- The Concept No. 5 is the first T10 wheeled medium in World of Tanks! Will it be like an EBR or Leopard... or both? I let you know everything!
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Chapters:
0:00 The Concept No. 5 Tank Preview
2:26 The Stats
10:44 The Crew
11:34 Equipment
12:09 Field Mods
13:26 Game 1
18:28 Game 2
24:41 Game 3
30:50 Conclusion - Игры
Considering what these British machines were meant to accomplish in real life, they really ought to have outstanding terrain resistances.
not really, they should have better recon skills but tracks are much much much better off road than wheels.
They should have a massive boost to terrain resistance on hard and decent on medium but be far worse on soft
Technically these tanks are South African not British.
Are you kidding? It’s the opposite.The entire point of TRACKED vehicles is to make them able to move over any terrain.
@@Jack_Gibbyand that’s just an old colony of Britain
Early birds will remember the title with "peview"
True
Now it's peview
Still peview for me.. seems like he used standard editor instead of gold 😂
😊
pewiew
This vehicle should really have at least 30% better camo, HESH rounds, 20 extra alpha damage and much better ground resistances (much like the real thing)
No. We have enough broken clown cars in the game as it is. Im quite happy these things are looking to be below average.
@@nephalos666 You're clueless the buffs that he mentioned still wouldn't even be enough to compared to the EBR's.
Its a medium, not a light tank.
@@crumbyk7798 30% better camo would only bring it to like leopard 1 levels, and that tank has tons of other better stats.
430 is enough alpha. If you increase that you get more alpha than a 122mm gun
I'm glad they're taking more care when adding new branches, this might be a bit far though 😅
Tbh they didn't take care with these tanks either? Cause they're pretty trash except for the tier 7, if they took care these would have been good vehicles
Exactly, and plus the previewing they showed for this is so downright misleading its insane.@@derrickstorm6976
wait for another bz 176 release right after these tech tree release
@@derrickstorm6976 well would u rather have this or another extremely powerful nearly op tank typical of wg? you can always buff tanks but nerfing them is pretty hard given wg's history
@whodagaming2182 nope, a OBJ 177 wheeled vehicle that is flat, high view range and mediocre Armour
I think they were so traumatized by wheeled lights (rightfully so), that they went too far with holding back British wheeled mediums
I feel that generally, armour effectiveness should be inversely proportional to stealthiness. At least for Mediums. So if the UK wheelies are going to have paper armour, they should have had great camo.
tell that to the Japanese tier 10 TD who have better armour and better camo than a Grille 15, being twice as big. They just dont care about logic sadly or what should make sense
@@AndresRodriguez-rx3ltikr, imagine short flat tanks have better view range than tall ones
Wow this looks like a pretty decent T9 tank, can’t wait to play this with my new crew and premium tank! /s
I seem to remember when this line was first floated they were meant to be TDs. This suggests to me that camo and terrain resistances being buffed would give it a card to play.
In my opinion, it is not even big advantage to have wheels there .. because is so much easier to cripple this tank from flank (destroy one wheel) than to detrack other mediums (especially on longer range)
Also the fact that the wheels are small and wont absorb anything like the ebr
This should be the shortest review ever, "Its a Turd" "the entire line is a line of turds"😂
Yea the tier 7 was maybe the best tier 7 medium though?? Shortest attention span...
I was really looking forward to this line, but so far its just a huge disappointment. They need to significantly buff the cammo and DPM, maybe give it access to HESH from t7
Give them hesh and camo. Then do slow tuning/buffs to dpm as it gets played more.
I view changing too many variables at once as a recipe for not getting a good understanding of what really "worked" for a buff/nerf.
I really think they're taking a "release weak tank lines, buff later until they work" approach these days
Which, honestly, isn't such a bad thing. That's a really good approach, if they actually do it
Premium Tanks, on the opposite hand...
Yeah... no one wants that
It is probably to silence people who say that WG is propagating endless power creep.
It is like "we'll throw a mediocre line and be like 'see guys, powercreep isn't real'", and then we plan on something actually bonkers.
That is most certainly not a really good approach, it diminishes the excitement of new content going into the game, it doesn't have to be broken, it HAS to be fun. Unfortunately adding something that doesn't have anything new or anything special about it isn't exciting at all, and is bad for the game IMO
@@tytus3048 Call me weird, but I was not excited for any new line in many, many years, because WG tried to make them "exciting". Gimmick vehicles and gimmick lines.
Ah yeas, what a reason to be excited to see more and more vehicles that make my favourite tanks obsolete and force me into painful grind all over again.
Russian Autoloaders that work with reverse of logic and fire faster the more empty they get?
Tanks with literal rocket boosters strapped to their arse?
Multi-gun designs that failed to work IRL but somehow rule in the game?
Bz-75 and M-V-Y still havent been buffed...
@@helpinghelper4151
That's why I said "if they actually do it". I think a lot has changed in policy at WG since they left Russia, but progress is a slow train, so they say
I really think that they at least could return that engine boost thing. Remember when wheel vehicles were introduced at first, not only they had 2 modes for driving but also, they could kinda "sprint" for a short distance after holding spacebar.
a new tank peview, how nice
I'm actually glad someone noticed, thought I was going insane lol.
Great Peview Quicky!
You are really quick in typing I can see 🤣
I think they should actually buff the camo, then it could have a bit of a niche, but as it is now, the only good thing about it is that it looks pretty cool, was always a fan of the looks of wheeled tanks with big guns :D
the hull kinda looks like the one of the AMX-10RC
I am bit saddened to see they are a bit underwhelming, but I really like how they look so still will get them. I am happy though it is not another OP must have line. Rather have it be below average and becoming balanced later.
British has too many weird tanks, why make another tech tree weird in that nation. Put the weirdness in another nation
@@SilentJaguarWut how does the british have weird tanks, they have zero special mechanics in their tree at all and the tanks are not special in terms of features. No extra track, double cannon, hydraulics, no sniper mode, no turbo mode, no autoloader of any type (only premiums), no special designs such as YOH turret or oscilating turret (only manti). The only thing the british have that is not normal is a HESH round.
@@pwntehnoobsthe British tank's do have special mechanics, they're just so old they're not the only ones with it anymore (hesh and spaced armor on turrets). Plus a lot of British tank's just look and/or play weird (fv4004 for example)
All these kind of hindrances to the Concept 5's potential can easily be brought over to the French wheeled Light Tanks, I reckon. Shame it'll never happen...
At last! I lived enough to see a very good video made by QB! Congrats, well made and deep thoughts + calculations.
In case someone has a dedicated crew for the Cobra, that one fits quite well.
Fun fact, if you put the turbo directive it will actually improve the travers Speed while stationary in the concept 5, I tried it and it worked, to my surprise
14:55 killed me lol! Such a burn. QB you are sometimes really funny haha
Excellent review; so helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I am thinking I am going to brush off the old Black Dog for the next few weeks.
The balancing on the british wheelys is great. Have never played a tank with this gun handling unbelievable what it hits while driving. Only kink they could iron out is that the wheels feel slugish. Or it feels like playing with lag because of the breaks and steering mechanic
Peview?
British Concept No.5: *Exist
Japanese Type 16: Hello there!
I like how ur saying its ur first ever medium wheeled Tank. ^^ Thanks for the Video. Great one
I’m glad they aren’t OP, like others, but yeah, they definitely need some improvements, like better turning, a bit better ground resistance, at least in med and soft. Some better camo, and HESH, I think just adding those would make it a lot better and at least more competitive, maybe lower the damage wheel penalty some too.
Coming up next - Submersible SPG !
Well I only play this game for fun and entertainment purpose not for competitiveness. So if I try to get these I don't care about the stats. I like them for the looks.
my vote is on upping the camo. If they are going to give it any edge, that would be where I want to see it at.
My suggestion to make them competitive are top speed maybe 75, 10% cammo while moving and giving the tank a dpm of 2500
What if these tanks had "Super quiet engines" and the proxy ring became the acoustic hearing range such that these tanks would not be spotted but could spot within the proxy circle. This could be applied to the french wheelies enabling them to be nerfed and yet made more interesting
"How 'bout no?!" - Dr. Evil.
proxy spotting is waaaaay to small to make effective use of such thing and make or break a tank.
@@skorpion7132 If that's what you think, then I doubt that you're any good in light tanks. It would also make them good in city maps where they could spot (hear and identify) tracked veihicles on the other side of buildings without being spotted themselves.
Just noticed your title says Peview instead of Preview. Great video as always.
Nice to see them attach a tank to that gun.
I feel like based off your observations with the tank WG was better off making them Wheeled Tank Destroyers instead of wheeled medium tanks because you basically play it like a STRV103B
Informative and comprehensive video as always. @QuickyBabyTV, there is however, a missing letter in the title.
Ive played this thing and it plays good. IRM, Optics, Rammer for most if not all games.
if they gave it hesh rounds it would have been interesting, also a slight camo buff would help, i had momments when i got spotted in some akward moments.
As they are right now I dont see myself taking the time to grind through the line worth it.
They just seem like worser german mediums (leopard line)
This thing is meant to be on edge of render distance and shell down on enemies. It's fastest tank to do so with long range gun. It's 1 trick pony.
It's main advantage is its ability to fire and quickly reverse IMO. It does this faster than tracked vehicles.
I think if they gave this tank 490 alpha I think it would be very fun to play, just driving around and deliver a lot of damege one by one
Give it better ground resistance and better camouflage - that could make it way more fun. Or a pump up the dmg per shot
Hey QB, I need help with the obj 257. The accuracy of this tank is non-existent. My shells have not hit where I have aimed and are bouncing or completely missing altogether for most games played in this tank. What do I need to do to make this tank work accuracy wise??
would be cool to see the south African wheeled tanks added at some point.
ironically these tanks remind me of the British/SADF wheeled vehicles in War Blunder. they're big and hard to hide, and have no armour. but at least they tend to have huge guns
I feel this needs just a Camo and DPM buff along with a terrain resistance (to closer to the Leopard's) and wheel turning buff by a few more degrees up to say, 10 degrees.
I'd say it should get 110mm pen and 520 alpha for the HE round as well.
in it's current state the Concept 5 is just a damage pinata more then a maus because at least it has armor going for it
In all honesty this video reinvirgorated how toxic that bushkemp Leo is.
It was a nice concept ;)
Excellent video, I played with it and really, it has no spice.
really they could be more fun to play or have something really unique.
I'm sure I'm not going to go after them at launch, maybe at an event where they're top of the tree.
And to think it would be so simple to make them Unique...
Example: two modes, defined by the speed of your tank Similar to the pneumatic suspensions, where at low speed the vehicle behaves exactly the same as in the test server, and at high speed they behave like the French vehicles with the wheel angle and dispersion increased by 50 % or 100%.
a little more, maybe 10 or 20% less penalty with destroyed wheels.
That would be cool and unique.
But that's my opinion and they have theirs.
No spice, no salt and no sugar, tank more bland then white mans chicken
QB did you see the auto flip feature its also in 1.22
Inb4 Title Fixed.
I think that what really neads work is tier 1 - 3, they should make them ww1 themed and way cooler and make you spend way more time in there with like ww1 tanks and towed anit tank guns
I'm going to grind this line BECAUSE it isn't broken
Feels like most of the player base on the NA server will snipe with these. A lot. I expect them to be popular with that gun handling.
*Lou Bega voice*: "Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Concept No. 5"
I think giving it like 460-470 alpha would help make it interesting but not broken over powered. Since it’s dpm would still be bad for t10 meds.
Long story short: Get a Leopard 1
Agree with QB, WGing blew it on this one.
Would be unique if this tank had swimming capacity!
I've missed your content and I'm sorry I've been gone Sir.
Giving the tier X another gun option, maybe a 120mm, might make the tech line at least worth a grind. Also, hadn’t they nerf the HE shells, we wouldn’t have such an wheels issue now would we?
give it some hesh rounds, which will kinda turn them into derp t49. hardly meta, but you could play it as a once in a while novelty fun, scoot and derp line.
I think The Concept 5 is related to the Concept 3 that's in War Thunder
Seems like wargaming has finally figured out how to add balanced tanks to the game, but now its too late because everyone expects new tanks to be overpowered because thats how its been for the past 5-6 years
I think WG shouldn’t need to worry about every line looking different, it’s fine having clones between tech trees. The AMX30B was originally a leopard clone, then WG had to try to make it different and now it’s not even a tech tree tank anymore. But that’s my opinion
If they keep all the stats the same, but they can buff "ONE" characteristic it should give it British HESH pen(bc it would in line with other british tanks) and buff the DPM to ~3000 the be in line with the british tech tree characteristic of having awesome DPM.
The point is that WG shouldn't overbuff it in the next iteration of the test server to the point that its OP, but give it "ONE" thing that very strong so it stands out a bit more.
I think dis tank turret can bounce if yu angle it like maus turret cuz its always happen frequently
I agree I think they were afraid of the reaction based on the EBR introduction and went way below subpar w/ this. IDK why it doesn't have HESH - a unique specialty of high tier UK tanks. IDK why it's camo is so bad (it's tall so yeah it shouldn't be OP but it's wildly undercamo'd).It doesn't have an autoloader/auto-reloader so why is the DPM so bad? I'll play the tank line cause I eventually will want to work up this tree but I'm not really looking forward to it.
Everyone: "Please don't release another EBR!"
*WG releases a medium tank with medium tank speed*
QB: "Oh god wow this tank is so slow"
705a>60 tp
The moment I saw the barrel I thought it's the L11.
I think if this vehicle had more power/weight ratio, every other stats will be ok
"68, 69! nice" yes QB it certainly is nice
I like the gsor 1010
think this tank will rock if they add:
+30-35% camo,
-2.0-3.0 gun dispersion,
+10-20% engine power(maybe),
still not op, but fun sneaky flank/distance tank.
Hey quickybaby bro, according to your traditional tank review cover design, should 't the orange V be an X? I honesty thought it was a tier V before clicking in
Man I rushed this to go to a family BBQ thanks for pointing this out!
Wheeled vehicles with big 90 and 105 guns are considered Tank Destroyers in the present world. Having said that then WG has done this line the right way. This will play like support snipers I guess and thats as it should be
dude this is the way of making the perfect video! amazing set up... keep it going i love it
Glad you like it!
"Peview" is now the new "Hodl"
Thanks QB
ok why the...... do the fenders and storage boxes on the side count as a hitbox? if anything it should be spaced armour^^
ah, another M48/T54E2 cameo. can't wait for you to play it QB
Given the size of this thing, it seems pretty astonishing that it doesn't have a 4th crewman as a dedicated loader. What's taking up all the space in this giant turret? Certainly not thick armor.
I think HESH is simple and unique characteristic this branch (and premium one) can have.
Considering that the Saladin only fired HESH, you’d think right?
Funny that people cry when op tanks comes out and still cry when its only a average tank xD
tbf, the Concept isn’t just average, it’s terrible
these tanks aren't average... tanks like the m48 are average. these are shit
I am playing ani this tanks with turbo optics nad silent exhaust and I like this line but i am ta tier 7
560 alpha would be amazing
i find it odd that it seems so slow compared to some other tanks and that the dmg is so low, i hope they buff it alittle bit atleast.
I think QB is right. It needs somthing special. Since the gun is good, give it 10-20% more alpha damage and give an option for an alternative derp gun that is fun. I think this will be a massive improvement.
Or just increase its camo and increase its he pen and maybe a tiny bit better rate of fire maybe 0.2 seconds faster the mobillity... idk man its just a medium tank at this point, or drop the reload improvement and make it faster.
@@evobsm2328 yes that could be a good idea as well.
@@evobsm2328true this. Especially for the Saladin - the tank irl primarily only fired HESH and in game it has like 48mm of HE pen :(
Ye ye might as well give him 380 pen still would perform the same, only way to make it remotely competitive is to give him FV4005s gun but keep the accuracy, maybe a little less pen, balanced it with a bit cheaper ammo but still not that cheap to be considered poor man’s tank. Would be a meta for a 4-5 years but at least would change this money drainage game a little, I still spend around 100e a month on WoT and still feel left out, should I spend more ? Insanity
i would give this tank another gun ye a derp with 650 dmg and like 2 sec aim time with like 240 pen or so just to have something extra.. atm its just meh boring
Im slightly conflicted. Trying to compare it to a leo but you dont take super forward and aggro positions. Also i think while it is a sniper, i think id look at it as more of a reinforcement tank. Being able to get around to a flank that need help or being able to get to positions to turret break stuck in tanks
Ugh....ut would get blown to shreds so quickly 😂
@@SilentJaguar so does anything thats armor can be overmatched. I mean i dont think it will be good. Just saying he kept saying about pushing positions but compared it to leo. And you dont do that in a leo
I support the idea of an autoloading gun for that vehicle.
honestly, it almost feels like these should have been td's up the alpha or dpm, and camo, and then they would be great, like it feels like even the description of the vehicle as a sniper tank would make it better as a td and honestly it feels like that's going to be its purpose. or I mean if you just like the sound of a medium rather than a td cause I suppose there are already lots of british td's just make it interesting, make it competitive. like the issue is this tank is going to be taking up a spot on your team where a different medium could have been and this tank functions as basically a shit td, or just a worst leopard so whatever team this is going to be on is going to be at a distinct disadvantage. sad to see wg just not understanding how there game works on any level and just hoping that more tanks means more good
i want to like this tank, but it needs more alpha damage or better reload time. Give it the same reload as leo or 490 alpha. As it is right now its just a worse leopard, and why would i want that when i can just play the Leo insted of this. This tank has so much potential for the people who like this type of playstyle, but it needs a buff WG!
unfortunately im done with all tech tree tanks so i have nothing left to do besides crew skill grind so ill get it and permanetly park it in the garage like most of the tier 10's
looks like the whole line needs buffing already
Jingles is going to have a field day
At least they are not the Disaster that was the French wheeled line