Zoro Vs. Lucci Finale: Lessons From Mihawk
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Thoughts on the conclusion to their fight and how Zoro's handling of the situation might be brought up later by Sanji?
00:00 - Oda's Message & 3 Week Break
06:48 - Zoro & Mihawk
12:40 - Zoro vs. Lucci
21:03 - Zoro's EYE
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Asura three sword style with butter knives, Bread man's game. You're toast.
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ShiRYEu of the Grain
This is the name it would have if 4Kids was still dubbing things
Bruh. This needs to be a quote
Someone said it.. it is a quote already.. what exactly do you think quote means..?
Tekking is unintentionally hilarious sometimes. "Whats clouds sword name? Ah well zoro needs a buster sword, i love buster swords" such a william thing to do 😂
Asking what the name of Clouds sword is right after using the term Buster Sword multiple times is amazing. Especially since Buster Sword isn't some generic term for Big sword, that is specifically the name of Clouds sword.
Yeah I always thought that was the generic name. Didn't know FF7 actually coined the term.
@@Tekking101The generic name you where looking for big swords are greatswords or claymores.
@Tekking101 every sword is a generic big sword compared to the dragonslayer
@Tekking101 Hehe, as a Final Fantasy 7 fan, I'm super thrilled to see the BUSTER SWORD name just imprinted in your mind as a general name thingy
😂😂😂I was just about to comment this😂😂😂
The annoying thing was the fans saying stuff like " lucci is a pre timeskip villain, so he should be one shotted " like no , its not that simple . Lucci was one of the pre timeskip villains that really fucked up luffy in their fight and tanked alot of attacks before being defeated . " luffy and zoro trained their ass off duirng those 2 years " ok and you thought lucci was just sitting on his ass during that time , he was training to of course .
Lucci is a masked CP0, he's done some training since ennies lobby for sure.
Facts those fans are fake af
Exactly. Like they ain't see him bust out an awakened form. Just so happens he had to go up against the future pirate king n his right hand man 🤷🏽♂️
that's the odd part of the power scalers
it's like after someone is defeated that character is not aloud to train and get stronger anymore
why is it only the main cast that can grow? why must every villain be "at their peak" whenever they are incounterd?
or like when some of them claim that if Kaido ever showed up again that Luffy should be able to basically 2 tab the guy 1v1
ignoring how much help Luffy had or how hard that battle was on Luffy the first time
i swear some fans are fucking high of their ass when it comes to this
Its not cause he's a pre ts villain. Its cause Zoro has feats that put him in the calliber of doing that. Like Zoro managed to permanently Injure Kaido in his hybrid form. Remember Kaido is mf that already has ancient Zoan lvl durability even without his df and this was in his hybrid form. Plus Zoro was on his last breath with a whole bunch of his bones broken when he did it. This is a almost fresh Zoro with almost no wounds. Sure Lucci is strong but he has not shown enough feats to be able tank more than 2 acoc attacks. Plus unlike fists, swords do lethal damage.
Lucci is strong but having acoc puts the character that has it in a whole different league compared to one that doesn't have it. Luffy went from barely holding up to scraping in base form for a while after he unlocked acoc. It is a power reserved only for literally the cream of the crop of fighters.
Asian fan here. The thing about asian warrior/swordsman mentality is, you don't ever go full strength against someone so much weaker as you like how you don't go all out against a kid, secondly adapting to your opponent strength can be used as training to make you stronger (you can't get stronger if you one shot someone), example of these in other anime are: ichigo refusing to use bankai against the ex espada dude, goku not going full strength at the start in most of their fights, or the anime troupe where the person gets angry because their opponent aren't going all out (being seen as weaker), unless it's an urgent situation when you need to cut down your opponent asap and move on, which zoro probably didn't notice the urgency of the situation.
It’s not even that Zoro was taking his time though that’s a big problem, he got the shit beat out of him lucci, I’m pretty sure it ended in a draw
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@@Deathmare235you're delusional, it did not end in a draw, that man lucci is on life support 😭
@@braylon6749 same with Zoro, Jimbei is carrying him
Tekking: I wanna see Zorro weird a giant buster sword.
Also Tekking: What is clouds sword called?
(Clouds sword is the origin of the term “buster sword”)
I was about to ask this.. I basically dont know final fantasy, but i know this.
But then what else did he mean by 'buster sword'?
I feel like Mihawk probably taught Zoro a similar lesson as Rayleigh taught Luffy; The only way to develop your Haki past the basics is to fight strong opponents as much as possible. So I feel like whenever Zoro gets a chance to fight a strong opponent like an awakened Lucci he tries to get as much out of it as he can. I am assuming Zoro doesn't know about the Gorosei and all the other stuff happening elsewhere on the island, but I could be wrong.
Kinda reminds me of Kenpachi from Bleach
To be fair, if he can feel haki then I’m sure he’d be able to feel that the gorosei have 5x god tier haki nearby and Lucci has comparatively lil bitch baby haki
Zoro knew about the strong haki and explosions on the island. He can feel it and hear it, also he knows that they’re rushing to leave so he wouldn’t waste time
Zoro would get lost trying to find them.
I wish I could like this comment twice
It Is very appropriate that you got lost in the first 6 min of intro in a Zorro Focus video
Everyone expected the bandana buff to come through but Oda bamboozled and revealed Zoro's new "spite the shitty swirly cook" mode, peak fiction
Goda peak foreshadowing 🔥🔥🔥
He hasn't used that technique since this morning 😅
6:53 is why we all watch your content, Tekking. I forgot what I clicked on too and DID NOT CARE.
fr whatever i clicked on is a tekking video, i dont care how many tangents there are
That's y he gets paid the big bucks
this is so relatable :D
I'll say a few rare times it has been too many tangents for me to follow
I read the portion about figuring out "What One Piece is" as about the series and not the thing in the series. Like, the letter reads like he's saying he needs some time to think about his work in the light of Toriyama's passing.
Small correction:
Zoro used Sogeking as a sword. Not Usopp. Two completely different characters, but similar ideals.
11:33 lol
As far as I know cloud's sword is reffered to as buster sword so this moment was very funny to me
Literally where we get the name 😂
My theory, he'll draw all his ideas and stick with one who is visually more funny to him.
This in my opinion would be the best possible timeline
@@amaeletcheu9702 not always
Likely
I think we all knew Zoro would win, but what baffled me the most about this whole thing was how apparently, the whole fanbase just "forgot" that Zoro started out using three swords and his "King of Hell" Mode (Conqueror's Haki). Everytime this fight gets discussed, everyone's like "no bandana low diff lol"...and I'm like, what? Do you not remember how it began?
The last dragon in existence guarding a horde of treasure on the mystery island would be really cool I'm banking on the egg Roger had being the last living dragon egg and it was left on laughtale to hatch and grow
And Zoro cuts it down on sight😂
My guy....I binged one piece from Romance Dawn to egghead in a little over a month. I have binged ridiculous amounts of RUclips content on one piece....and I don't know HOW I am JUST NOW finding your page.... great work and you have a new subscriber!
I'm jumping in pandoras box now that it's open. My opinion on Zoros eye is that he got cursed by the sandai kitetsu, so he is keeping his eye closed until he can use a specific technique against Mihawk.
It def gave him the Sharingan
Zoro Eye Theory: What if during their fight with the Blackbeard pirates BB use some kind of darkness world. Creating a sphere of pure darkness. Like in the days of the pirates they would keep one eye cover for when they go below deck to fight. Zoro could use the scar eye to see better in the darkness to get an even playing ground. (all of this plus probably stored observation haki in some way)
What Oda said wasn't specifically about the One Piece.
He just said that, if fans guessed a plot twist of revelation, *ANY* of them, he would change it.
Which is something he clearly did a couple of times during the East Blue saga.
He probably doesn't do it anymore, because now One Piece is much bigger and *EVERY THEORY EVER HAS BEEN FORMULATED.*
"He probably doesn't do it anymore,"
Good, because that was a bad thing.
It’s been a while since watching east blue saga do you have any of these examples?
It's kinda sad some people can't accept the fact that "Zoro wasn't wearing his bandana" and "he didn't have his 3 swords" were legit arguments....
The bandana doesn't mean it's a power-up, it means he's SERIOUS.
He had the banadan in Fishman Island, even if the enemies were trash, because he knew the situation was SERIOUS.
Against Lucci he didn't know that the situation got EXTREMELY serious so he didn't feel the need to rush.
Plus in a logical sense, he's preserving stamina because he knew that at least Kizaru was present....
How can people not realize that?!
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Who are you arguing with?
Exactly why go all out wasting your stamina for a person much weaker than you. Exactly what mihawk did against Vista he saved stamina and suppressed himself down to his level.
I won’t argue that Zorro was messing around or could’ve been in Lucci earlier, but my question is why during such a serious moment? I’m not going to put Sanji’s Vegapunk fumble on Zorro’s hands, but I will say if he stopped messing around earlier, and had Sanji’s back, things may have turned out different.
This is my exact thought. Why would Zoro be playing around while his crew is under attack and VP is murdered? I think the playing around thing is just Zoro stan power scalers coping about his struggle. A lot of people thought Zoro was much closer to Luffy than he is. G5 broke that dynamic.
This was obvious stalling from Oda and it was a fumble. Its okay to think that the author made a mistake sometimes. Like stalling isn't bad but this was a bit too far .
@@rand12389let's just ignore the fact that zoro was using 3 swords at some point and we could even see the infamous blacklightning at this point, people act like zoro can just spam koh mode without any stamina issue or that he can just pullout ashura without thinking lol, let's just accept this fight wasn't a low diff like some thought it would've been. I've never see someone one-shot a enemy after having attaking him multiple times, while bleeding and panting. Luffy vs bellamy or kaido vs luffy first encounter that's what a low diff one shot looks like lol. Zoro has no reasons whatsoever to stall lucci while there's other considerably major threats on the island and they both can sense the presence of the gorosei, lucci is the one that have a reason to be stalling. Sometimes you gotta get your personal feelings or agenda out of the way qo u can enjoy a storyline otherwise you'll always end up disappointed and blame the author for your own unrealistic expectations, that goes for life in general
@obmis_arraid219 it's a case of both sides having wildly different win Cons. Zoro had to beat Lucci to win while Lucci just had to not loose. And on of those goals is significantly harder than the other.
@@obmis_arraid219Zoro fans have the biggest cope you should have seen the video when the fight barely began
Thank you for the video! I always enjoy watching your videos! Keep up the great work!
Zoro has come so far that now very powerful people pirates feared can be proud of... losing with dignity.
Like he did with Mihawk in the past.
Keep up the awesome work and videos tekking love the video
Thank you for a great video guys
Glad to see you're making progress on p3reload hope you've been enjoying it and wonderful video as usual matt thanks
Genuinely started smiling, when you mentioned the silverfox❤ thanks for years of great videos, man
Foxy ❤️
I love catching up with the manga cuz now i can watch tekking’s videos 10 minutes after they release
I laughed so hard when you said that Mihawk told Zoro " you only open your eye when you are fighting me"
I can’t wait for the tekking discussions during this break and I’m hoping for a in-depth look at all the gorosei creatures
It made me tear up a bit to think about Oda reminding us of characters that haven't shown up in a while. He loves his story so much, I can't imagine how overwhelming it must feel to have so many people around the world remember every little detail and character.
Sailors supposedly wore eyepatches to preserve night vision in one eye for going below decks
Id love him to have a fight where the lights go out and he just switches which eye is closed without explanation or significance.
I just have to mention, I love that shirt you're wearing!
Rashoman is one of my fav sword techniques just glad to see that somebody else likes it too
I honestly want Oda to take more breaks. He doesn't do it enough and gets like no sleep. I want the goat to make it long even after one piece is over.
4:18 I remember this too, he def said this
I'm always happy to watch you discuss Zoro Tekking. It seems with the most recent chapter maybe Zoro will get some more insight into black blades with Saint Ethan running around the island the two of them may run into each other. Secondly I'm really wish we could get more flashbacks with Zoro's training with Mihawk.
As sad as I am about the break I do love to see him being able to rest. I'd also love if he took more often breaks.
I know he is a hard worker but I want him to be able to enjoy his life outside lf work when he wants to.
“Maybe some where there’s a name for clouds sword”
“Zoro could use a BUSTER SWORD one time”
My boy. You said it.
From what I understand, pirates often wore eye patches so that if they were raiding another ship and went belowdecks in the middle of a battle, they'd be able to acclimate to the dark by taking that patch off quickly and have some "night vision" on the fly. What if this is how Zoro is able to see an invisible opponent? Training his observation haki like that?
Title of this video is incredibly underrated. Props to the lord tekking.
Great video! But I have one issue. Zoro actually didn’t use Usopp as a sword he used Sogeking*.
Zoro has always either used fights to train or has been critically injured during fights.
In this case you can pick either one, coming of the near death experience in Wano, or testing his base strength with two swords, etc.
Using a koh on a Lucci who arguably super fatigue and damaged
1093. Zoro was going all out with 3 swords and the green flames on em. This 2 sword narrative is cope especially when we also saw Zoro get his sword knocked out of his hand
@@thetruth997_ Yeah he got his sword knocked out of his hand while using two swords. I don't think he's at full ability wielding two swords. The last time we saw Zoro before 1107 was chapter 1094 and we saw that he didn't use three sword style there so it's very likely he used two swords since then. If three swords green flame is all out then wouldn't two swords basic armament count as not going all out?
Jimbei help Zoro with Lucci and not even a K.o
@Tekking101 love you pal. Clouds sword is called the buster sword
Something I love about Oda saying "I should probably figure out what the One Piece is" is that that is SUCH a writer's thing, 'cause sometimes you have the ending reveal in mind for the longest time, but then things change in your story so much that you gotta just go with the new stuff and re-piece things together.
Amazing.
Dead Man's Game/Ashura mode feels like the birth of a new Demon akin to the Gorosei's abilities. Where they manifest a Demonic form that suites their ideals/fighting styles.
And Zoro's Ashura form may be Zoro's final form itself, like a Devil Fruit awakening, it manifests through Haki alone.
It'll be interesting to see as the series continues if this will be the case or not
I remember that interview and if i’m remembering right he said yes he would but nobodies guessed it yet
To be fair, Luffy and Zoro have always loved to fight - not to defeat opponents, the fighting itself. They don't go all out against weaklings. They like to see what the opponent can do and enjoy the fight as much as they can - which is also why they often end up in really bad situations. Could he have picked something from Mihawk? Yes. But even without that, it would be uncharacteristic for Zoro to go all out against weaker opponents.
hey so i didn'twatch the whole video yet, but about clouds sword, it is the buster sword, also fun fact buster sword isn't a type of sword, buster sword is the name of clouds sword, which canoacly is a greatsword
Hope that helps
Future sight Tekking....
When Zoro used the Scythe during his fight with Killer was dope asf
My favourite idea I had for what the one piece treasure is it's a giant barrel of alcohol for the biggest party on the planet. They wanted to age it just right and it wasn't quite enough time when roger turned up so they couldn't open it just yet and that's why everyone was laughing.
Hey Matt. It would be a cool idea while the break is happening to go back and do chapter reviews for some of your favourite chapters in OP. and make it seem like the chapter had only just come out. Would love to see the og tekking haircut make a comeback! Haha Much love
Nah Tekking, you’re not going crazy. I remember that interview as well lol. Oda has said in the past that if people guessed correctly on certain story beats, he’d change them.
10:59 What if the buster sword becomes his tiny cross-knife?! Like, it looks intimidating, but it's literally the least deadly that Zoro can be with anything called a blade. Only people who prove themselves get to fight against his katanas.
4:15 I also remember this from at least 3 or 4 years ago and someone said that he had changed it once before but I don't know if that part is true.
I follow the theory that the Wado Ichimonji is a cursed blade. It killed Kuina, since it's been stated cursed blades kills unworthy/weak users. Zoro almost succumbed to the curse over the timeskip, but was strong enough that it only managed to take his eye.
I like this theory because I'm interested to see how Zoro would react if he found out the sword he took to honour his friend was actually the weapon that took her life.
So the sword made her trip?
@@Speed001 Maybe? Probably a little more dramatic than that I would think.
One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!
I may be wrong but I believe it was an SPS question and it is it is in one of your SVS videos😅
I look forward for the Human-Beast Forms of Marcus Mars, Topman Warcury and Shepherd Ju Peter after we saw Jaygarcia Saturn and Ethanbaron Venus Nusjuro's Human-Beast Forms.
Reminds me a bit of Yuta from jjk when he tried to defeat cockroach without using his technique and failed.
i'm just waiting to hear the sound effect they use in the anime when Zoro opens his eye. most anticipated moment since gear 5 🤣
what is interesting about Oda's message is that Clover's hair is green in the canon
We can easily tell Zoro has been holding back, actually . Did we all forget that Zoro has a whole form that he doesn't use. The same form that was able to temporarily outpace and overpower Kaido, that being Ashura. Zoro has been holding back since a pre time skip . It's crazy how people forget Zoro has this form sitting in his back pocket .
Edit: He did address Zoro holding back by not ever using Ashura . I made this comment before bringing up Ashura 😅 .
Neither outpaced or overpowered Kaido. But yeah this was definitely a 'the plot demanded Zoro not be around moment'
Holding back literally uses Koh with Lucci also literally coming back from his injuries from gear five Luffy,stussy sapping him,and fighting the sepharims
Zoro stans are delusional 😂
Zoro stans will say anything to fit their low IQ agenda
@@thetruth997_ How am I delusional? You're using yt , search Zoro asura vs kaido . He clearly outpaced him , what is so controversial about saying the .
Minority Buster would be an excellent name for one of Zoro’s techniques, or one of the swords he can wield together with Cloud’s and Guts’ swords.
I feel like to a certain extent Zorro was testing both himself and Luccii. Like if Luccii pressed him he could be worthy of Santoryu Deadman's Game or Nine Sword Style Asura.
He has a measuring stick in Rob Luccii who he knows Luffy can beat fairly easily. So he can measure where his captain is and where he is himself as a fighter.
Further, Luccii has displayed an annoying habit of fast healing, delaying him might be better than curb stomping him and leaving him to heal up and attack again when they least can deal with it.
I really would like Sanji and Zorro to have a heart to heart about this. Maybe even use their real names to each other.
I like to think Zoro is building up haki in his eye or something like that and once he opens it it will be like Mihawks eyes but he’ll only have the one and will be able to do some technique like future sight but different.
Nice video as always Tekking to bad Zoro didn't finish Lucci
"What is clouds sword called again? Hmmm, anyway what if zoro had a buster sword"
*clouds sword is called the buster sword*
Mahn that thumbnail was awesome i really love all your thumbnails
You're remembering an old video you did where it was discussed if he watches peoples theories and I think you had said his response was that he wouldn't want to watch that incase someone guessed and he would be tempted to change it
3 week break will feel like forever but Oda deserves all the rest and break.
It's been pretty short for me
Chapter 1111 will be the last chapter before his three weeks break. Chapter 1112 scans will be out on April 19, then another week break due to it being golden week after that
18:36 I see you've been playing some Persona 3 Reload! Great game :p
I think about Zoro using Dead man's game similar to us doing a PB lifting record and that would be insane to do to someone you can beat without doing that.
Zoro’s left eye. When he opens it is an empty eye socket to hold a small knife in. Four sword style!
There's one fanart I saw of Zoro falling down the stairs at Mihawk's castle and his sword ends up stabbing his eye. Cue panicking sibling energy with Perona and Mihawk in his weird toilet hearing the screaming.
Don't worry Tekking you're not crazy. I remember Oda saying he would change the One Piece as well. Don't know where I heard it though.
Well, since One Piece is on break are we getting the YonCook video?
Gives me more time to catch up. I just finished the part where Orehime died.
I don't see many people talking about the fact that some cipher pol members seem to have a cat motif Rob Lucci obviously but also Who's Who and captain Kuro who isn't confirmed to be one but is speculated to be a rouge or failed CP trainee there's also that guy on the sea train that was going to join that Lucci killed
11:44 clouds sword is literally just called buster sword in the games
11:35 Cloud has the Buster Sword, Tekking. That is it's name, "The Buster Sword".
4:18 sort of related, but I feel like after the Gol D Roger laughed chapter came out. He probably finalized what it is
zoros strongest attack is either the flying dragon blaze or deadmans game
im leaning towards deadmans game as it is a asura based technique
I heard that Season 2 of Live action One Piece start filming soon, so it is possible that the break is to check-up on the set/script or answer some questions from the cast (if any)
That could certainly be on his mind but I think the main thing is Toryima for sure.
Taking from the Idea that "Leopard Hunt" was a move devised to be used specifically against Lucci. What would be other "specific target" moves Zoro could have?
Santoryu: "Cook Giri"? "Shark Song"? "God Slayer"? "Monkey Canon"?
Cloud's sword is the Buster Sword, you got the name right.
"Whats the name of clouds sword? I dunno, its some sort of buster sword."
Yes tekking, clouds buster sword really is SOME kind of buster sword XD
What if it's a case where Zoro, during the time skip (his training period under Mihawk) received the wound on his left eye, but unlike many other injuries and scars he got during that time, this one was a very close call. As in, his eye was almost destroyed but saved by a hairs length or through sheer dumb luck. We all know that the eye is one of the more sensitive organs of a human body and since his almost lost his eye, it could be a case where Mihawk told Zoro to consider that his eye is lost and that he should continue on his journey without using that one eye (Samurai honor and all that bs). Mihawk might have also told him that it would act as a constant state of training as well, and then, when the day comes for Zoro to face Mihawk, Mihawk will allow Zoro to open his left eye to fight him. As far as what difference it would make, in short (and of course in my personal/subjective opinion) I think that it would massively increase the potency/upper potential of his observation Haki, simply because he would then have access to his entire optic nerves system. which would skyrocket his overall Haki level. Maybe it can even translate into a higher level of Conquerers Haki, since Zoro is already highly proficient at Armament Haki, so at that point with both of his eyes in use, he could have access to Future sight (or some other variation of advanced observation Haki), and then maybe put them together to become something like a True form Ashura or something that manifests his highest degree of Conquerers Haki. Might be completely wrong on this and probably not the first guy to think about this either. Apologies to everyone for the long comment.
The moment I saw that thumbnail I finally understood the whole point of the Lucci fight. He's not THAT strong, Zoro is just stalling.
Stalling that actively harms his team
lmaao zoro coldnt beat him read the spoiler
@@hjlnbiyup couldn’t beat him so bad that lucci literally cannot move lol. 😂 whatever you say buddy
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Zoro could tho. He literally just did. Read the manga.
@@hjlnbi He literally did Jimbe just made sure that Lucci stayed down. You really need to reread the spoiler
As far as what the One Piece is, the only thing that's outright been confirmed is that Oda isn't going to pull a "the treasure is the friends and experiences that happened along the journey" trope. Like, yeah, that can definitely be a part of it. But there is something physical waiting at Laughtale.
I've heard the 'change the One Piece' thing as well, I think he said he had like 5 or 6 'One Pieces' planned so he could swap them out if people guessed them?
Isn’t the one piece a sound dial with a recording from joy boy?
I still think he just thought “ah well Luffy will get pissed off if I just slit his throat… how do I get rid of him without killing him?! This is tougher than I thought…” and then the Sanji dialogue is “oh that Haki is actually something real serious… in a few seconds I’m asking through jimbei’s snail what the hell twirlybrows is saying is too much to…. What the hell is with all the weird black lightning sigils and weird mythical zoan people?! Is this the bustercall plus?!”
Then jimbei explains the whole heads of the world government coming thing…
Ooh… sákégán has a nice ring to it I gotta say… …how’s he unlock EMS? Extra drinks? : D
Crocodile: rags to riches
Lucci:riches to rags.
Zoro; needed the hate of BLACK leg Sanji to beat a kitty cat.
Don't forget zoro needed jimbei to finish the fight.
The lowest 'low diff' in manga history
Sick rap!!
1111 lucci still standing tho jinbei taking zoro to escape
@@yanaskhoir3657Lucci is standing but he can’t move anymore and Jinbei attacks lucci and stills the kill
@@thocka5144better than kizaru wouldve done after tanking that. he wouldve been on the floor with his hand on his head saying this is bad
What's the haki version of rashomon? We see the haki version of his tower climb and return
Zoro took his meal after Wano more serious than Lucci.. Used Ashura while eating! Lmao!