Why SpaceX won't propulsively land their Dragon capsule. Not on Earth. Not on Mars.
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Why did one of the coolest features of the Dragon Capsule get cancelled? Why are they no longer sending a Dragon Capsule to Mars? We answer this and more!
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3 years later - today ... SpaceX Finally launched humans to space. Congrats team SpaceX and Elon for your achievement.
And in two days they will return to earth!!!
And now they are back on earth
@@woodduck2178 and now SN5 hopped 150m. Let's make this thread until Mars happens.
@@woodduck2178 And they are going to send some more crew to mars next week and set up a colony
And now they’ve launched SN8, taken it to 12.5km and belly flopped back down!
I'm actually excited about this. In the past it always meant that SpaceX had even better idea in mind and now I'm anxious to see what they came up with instead.
+Mark Thrimm agreed!!!
I'm a little disappointed there was no speculation about the replacement in this video.
If Red Dragon is not landing propulsively, the only alternative I can think of is a parachute + inflatable crash bags (which has been used by NASA).
+catoomch we talk about how the ITS BFR/BFS is the replacement and we know how that’ll land. On earth dragon will continue to splashdown like it does today
exept they want to remodel the ITS too
Fair enough. But Elon was mysteriously referring to some new method to land on Mars in his interviews.
Your channel is starting to look really professional. Good job
Philipp Buhr yes 😂
He showed us a picture book of a capsule in an egg
Oh the irony.
Yaassss!
Well - one of the best, most informative sites word wide! And you feel: Tim knows what he is talking about!!
Ooohh 2 years later
It's a success bro!!
I want to see a falcon heavy land on mars with the main center booster. That would be some Kerbal space program level crap
Haha, now that would be a sight! xD
Yeahhhh that's not how it works
In your dreams. You're saying that without even jettisoning the central booster and using the second stage, you expect the thing to get to Mars.
They just need to carry on with the KSP style: Add more boosters and build a Falcon 9 Super-Mega-Heavy.
Falcon Uber Super Hyper Mega Ultra Giant Monster Titan Heavy Block 6.1.1D Fullererest Thrust
I love knowing Elon does not mean "Falcon" when he says Big Falcon Rocket. 😂
@Jake Chen Starship
And I love that it's a homage to the Doom and Quake games and their BFG - the best weapon in the game - the Big F*cking Gun
@David Lazarus its a beautiful thing, the doom community went crazy for a little bit
@Jake Chen man i was just about to say that lol
Big F**cking Rocket
Who is watching this after the demo-2 launch
Yup. lol
Yess binge watching everything now
Me
Yes
I was just thinking I bet he's getting a lot of views on his older related videos because of that.
This was most interesting Tim. Thanks mate. I suspect the two main reasons were due to safety restrictions and propellant weight. Probably pretty difficult to land at an accurate location from orbit, even by SpaceX standards. Suspect they could much more easily return to the ocean with chutes. Still hope they continue with propulsive tech for future stuff though. I suspect the super.d engines will still be there for abort or emergency anyway, probably just with much less fuel. They are not going to remove them entirely from Dragon 2 I wouldn't think are they?
Hey Marcus :)
Marcus!!!!
Yeah, if they ever want to carry crew they'd be required to keep them, or a replacement. Like you said, with much less fuel.
Marcus House I
Propellant weight wasn't a concern, Dragon 2 is still volume-constrained like Dragon 1. Still need quite a bit of fuel for an abort.
Wait... he only has 19K subscribers? This is the first video I have seen from this channel and I thought he has well over 500K. Good job on making these videos, I am definitely subscribing!
+Mike woahhh thank you!!!! That means a lot!!! I put a lot of work into these videos so I’m glad you’re getting something out of it! 😊👍 thanks for the sub hope you come around for some livestreams and say hi!
2 years later and getting real close to 500k :-)
735k now , it is starting to move faster
Nearly a million
1.15M!! Congrats 🎉
I loved that book on how the dragon was born 😂😂
Great video, keep this great content coming!
+Toby Woollaston haha thanks!!!
I feel like he had that book before this video.....
The hype is real for the falcon HEAVY!!
It won't launch this year.
I'd like to think December at the earliest. And then... When it does go off it needs to at least get far enough away from the launch pad before it explodes. Which as Musk said it has a good chance of. I'll bet right now it goes through several scrubs. No way in hell all 27 engines go green on the first try.
Not launching this year. They aren't starting conversion until early October, then 60 days, which puts the pad ready at early December. They have to do a WDR or two (likely catch some issues with the GSE at that point), static fire, review a ton of data, then likely multiple launch attempts.
I wonder how many attempts it'll take... I intend on going down to see FH launch, but I'm thinking I better plan a whole week down there. 27 freaking engines all needing to play nice with each other... Who's got the warmest feet at SpaceX? Lol...
If it's as quick as a Tesla S it'll reach its 1200 km/h top speed (700 mph) in 30 seconds (2.5 s per 100 km/h). Wow.
Bravo! This video felt much more professional and serious than the others I have seen and I loved it!
This makes me sad. From an engineering perspective, I understand it, but from a fan of high technology, I'm disappointed.
Also disappointed because a friend of mine worked on the SuperDraco rocket engines!
The SuperDracos are still super important! They're critical in an abort, and it's cool that they're kept after every flight. In old space capsules, the escape tower is a separate component which is thrown away at every launch. Each Dragon gets to keep its superdracos for the next flight!
While dragon won't land on mars, BFR will and spacex is basically gonna allocate everything to it making things like red dragon no longer an idea
Its still very usefull to have them. I mean that way the capsule has acess to both low thrust high efficiency and low efficiency high thrust, which means in a pinch it can do all kinds of maneuvers. I mean, its not because the capsule isn't suposed to use its thrusters to land, it doesn't mean if something fucks up, they coudn't try that as a last ditch.
Awww that was so adorable with the lil egg around 1:00 .. Awesome Channel BTW!! :)
+Mirek Heikkila glad you liked it!!!
Yes i did, the scrapbook binder was classic too! :) nice!!!
@@EverydayAstronaut: Oh yes, mate, that scene was hilarious, thank you! :)
As other people have said, your videos are honestly crazy good and I've watched like half of them since yesterday. I genuinely thought that your sub count would be at least 10x as high when I first checked because of the quality of your productions. Keep this up and there's no way that you won't be huge as a Space related content creator.
+Lazy Pharaoh wow thank you so much!!! That really means a lot!!!
Answer starts at 5:55
Eric Douglas thanks bro
Eric Douglas Thanks!
Thanks! So basically the answer is "it's not the best way to land the Dragon Capsule." Did I just miss something in this video, or was there no talk about the specific pros and cons about using propulsive landing on the Dragon Capsule? I feel kinda disappointed.
God bless you.
I wish I saw your answer first. Would have saved me from listening to that annoying background music.
Great explanation. Really appreciate the deep dive and video. And you're absolutely correct: SpaceX doesn't do anything unless it supports their long-term plans and has no problem re-assessing and changing directions if conditions change.
+Joshua Pinter thanks for checking it out!!! Glad you found the deep dive worth it
6:10 When you researched for the presentation but didn't bother practicing
OMG I had those very same binoculars when I was a kid too :) The little touches make these vids so special.
You summed it up perfectly. The propulsive landing would have been awesome, and it's kind of a bummer that it doesn't happen, but then again, why put so much into it at all, when they could just put all their efforts and resources in developing BFR? After all, the Dragon 2 is still going to be launched by the Falcon 9, a partially reusable vehicle, and while it is pretty cool, it'd be much cooler to see a much bigger ship replace it.
So with that in mind, the plans getting canceled is actually something good, because with SpaceX it pretty much always means they have something bigger and better in mind.
Thanks, I love your videos. I agreed, being flexible & quick on their feet is one of Space-X's greatest strengths. Seeing spaceships land on thrusters is soooooo darned cool though.
+Pass The Butter Robot totally agreed! Thanks for the kind words too!
Yeah its a shame...but if Dragon is never needed to be landed like this then the cost savings go towards the BFRS....i cant wait to see that flying and landing, that will be awesome...
Interesting point there comparing Dragon 2 and ITS to the Falcon 5 and 9. You may have just reversed my opinion on the matter (that's a good thing). Yes we won't get to watch D2 land on mars, but maybe we'll see the ITS do it instead
Lewis Massie Dragon v2 on the BFR or lazy s pattern like the space shuttle?
+Lewis Massie glad you found that compelling 👍
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Elon Musk stated that he wanted to cut down the number of Raptor engines on the ITS and reducing it's size so we might sadly get a smaller than planed rocket ship.
I think that is the case, but even if it isn't quite the original intended scale, it'll still be pretty massive, and it'll innovate technologies needed for even larger spacecraft in the further future
Came back here after the crew dragon demo flight! So much has changed in a few years....
I fully agree with Tim's final judgement: See the final target and be flexible!
The government does seem to be rather prone to the Sunk Cost Fallacy.
+Victor Gigante it’s true!.... probably because of financial interests and constituents losing jobs
Everyday Astronaut but mostly lobying
I think the main problem with the "Congress run" projects, is that the politicians are not interested in the end goal, but only in what it brings to their constituents/state.
As a Dutchman, I consider it the biggest flaw in the USA (and EU) democracy, that the representation is regionalized. A national election should have national candidates.
The same should be true for the EU parliament as well.
I heard someone say once that NASA has just become a jobs program.
You rock! These are such awesome videos!
SpaceX, NASA and other organizations should have an appropriate number of their employees become Patreon supporters every time you do a video about them!
I'd love to see a vid on the causes and lessons learned from the various SpaceX failures - what they missed, why, what they corrected :)
+TinyPirate great idea!!! I’ll put it in my list to do! Thanks for the suggestion
About halfway through the video it dawned on me that Elon Musk has just been playing Kerbal Space Program with real rockets all along.
1:08 X AE A-12 in a nutshell
Yes there is a point to land it on Earth propulsively
It's not about the costs
It's about advancing our space capabilities and making better more capable vehicles because we can.
That record scratch at 1:16 had me howling 🤣
Bet it got hot inside that nbc suit :D
+DyingCr0w it’s the worst. But it used to be much worse than it is. It had a thick rubber lining on the inside and many of my old photos from Instagram I would have to set a self timer and run out and do a pose and do it over and over in 90 degree heat. Two or three times I almost passed out. That was the worst, now it’s more bearable.
subscribed! With a little bell in the end kinda way! Great channel!
+Flipp Flopp wow!! Thank you so much. That genuinely means a lot! 🙏🙏🙏
I just love seeing this many people being excited about what SpaceX is doing. To see this happening before my time passes is inspiring in itself.
U legend. Luved the little dragon fairytale story. Very originally composed and one of the best youtube vidz in ages
Who is watching after a successful spash down??
So the Dragon 2 will NOT "land as a 21st century spacecraft should," as per Elon at the unveiling. Perhaps in the 22nd century?
Wait for the ITS.
Paul Jones I'm afraid I won't make it that long.
Randy King too late, they're doing it, but it's called BFR
You are probably the most informative youtuber I have ever seen. You deserve a lot more subs
i really hope they bring back the propulsive landing one day, they could atleast use the drako thrusters in tandem with the parachute the way the soyuz does
What about..... A large space station (maybe Bigelow) With 10 Falcon9 like vehicle landers and rovers. Fuel production. Launch the whole thing to Mars orbit.
cavereric I hope you realize you can't produce much fuel in orbit... Not really that much material to work with
and a magically long tube sending in crude oil
They can't afford the fuel that is required to bring the giant space station into mars orbit.
I think its NASA at its cold feet about landing this way that actually created the problem. Elon said it would take too much resources to "qualify" propulsive landing. Maybe NASA wanted way more test flights and other expensive testing that would have made the whole thing too expensive.
Crew safety requirements need 3 - 5 redundancies on all critical systems, I'm guessing that is just not doable with their system. The rules are there to prevent casualties, but obviously put a heavy burden on future designs.
The fact that there is a competing space launch system being developed by defense contractors also bring politics into this. I wonder how much of those "requirements" were just junk to make this more difficult for SpaceX. I mean, Boeing's "Starliner" could never do propulsive landings. Seems like a way to force SpaceX to stop being so Badass.
Are you joking? NASA, if anything, favors SpaceX. But they do not want to lose crew, so there are strict requirements. Given SpaceX's track record so far, they're the most likely to end up killing astronauts.
No, its more politics than anything else. The fact that the SLS is still being developed shows that its all politics. The SLS uses SRBs, the one tech that has killed more astronauts than any other. Id rather trust SpaceX's rockets then that POS.
I appreciate the quality of your production, man. Well done!
05:39 "At the beginning of 2018, SpaceX will perform an in flight abort test" That was a 2 year delay...
Has anyone considered a propulsive landing in fresh water. The precision of a propulsive landing would make it possible to land in a small pond or even an artificial dugout pond. Fresh water would be less corrosive and a water landing would be gentle enough that there would be no need for landing legs. A crane and truck could be driven to the pond and pick the Dragon out of the water and whisk it off to wherever it is needed. A truck and crane would be quicker and cheaper than a ship and a helicopter.
Why not just mount the landing legs on the dragon radially like on the falcon 9 1st stage instead of putting them through the heat shield?
Jimbo Nuetrin that's exactly what I was thinking. I am leaning now towards landing on earth with parachutes, but landing on Mars a mini stage 2 with propolsive.
They would probably burn up outside the heat shield. I’m guessing falcon 9 can get away with it because it’s engines are capable of a much greater deceleration. Just a guess.
Depends on the kind of atmospheric entry I guess since an earth-mars transfer would without dropping into orbit at least, carry with it huge deceleration, and any change may require the entire atmophere entry profile to be redesigned. It would also require a great deal of redesign and RND to reevaluate it's normal flight profile alone. Who knows.
Also, this "everyday astronaut" doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, he's skeptic that reusable rockets will not be cost effective? He's UNDERCUTTING the current market by a factor of TEN in terms of vehicle cost, what bullshit is this guy spouting?
Soyuz does a little spurt with the engines before landing right? If they can do it why can't SpaceX? I suppose it's hard to spot land with parachutes.
The capsule is designed for water landing so it hangs at an angle under parachutes (to lower peak splashdown acceleration). The engines would push it sideways which is not ideal
2 Months later Bob and Doug are home safe and sound.
1:31 literally the definition of launching a rocket from your backyard
Everyday Astronaut The little itsy bitsy legs stuck through the heat shield never made sense for a Mars landing on unknown terrain. An unknown terrain landing needs high flotation legs with active leveling. That puts the legs outside like on the F9 booster. If they want to send scientific instruments around in the solar system, there is no point at all in developing legs they can only land on a flat concrete tarmac. And on Earth, there isn't much point in propulsive landing unless they can land on a helipad, airport, ship, or wherever. I was wondering why they weren't doing routine propulsive take off and landings (with extra fuel on a stripped down test vehicle) to get deep practice. Thx.
Good prediction!
It was on point lol
You seem to make these videos longer than they need to be. Good video overall tho! +1
I had those exact binoculars when I was a kid. Thanks for the video.
At 10:05 you indirectly refer to the Sunk Costs Fallacy (when already spent costs are incorrectly factored into future decisions- leasing to abandoning a project that is cheaper to finish than to start over, or continuation of a project that would be cheaper to abandon and start over than to continue with...) However NASA and big contractor behavior is often NOT an example of this fallacy, and YOU are the one engaging in the Sunk Cost Fallacy in those cases...
If you've already SUNK enormous amounts of money into a project and it is close to completion, then those costs are LOST already. The only things that matter are costs going forward- and if you are close to completing a project then finishing it often comes with far fewer additional costs than starting over on a newer project with the same capabilities. For instance, the Shuttle was INCREDIBLY expensive to develop, but by the time they realized they were going to end up way over-budget the future costs to finish the Shuttle were lower than they would have been if they had stsrted over on a new super-heavy lift rocket like SLS. There was no recovering those costs, and despite your ignorant mocking, ABANDONING the Shuttle at that point and stsrting on a new auper-heavy lifter would have costed even MORE money than just finishing the Shuttle.
If you're 90% of the way into a $200 Billion project and only have $20 Billion to go, and a new option cones along that would have the same performance and cost only $40 Billion to develop you SHOULDN'T abandon your current project and begin work on the alternative- that would be exactly twice as expensive. Your already-expended costs are lost and you can't get them back- this is what it means for something to be a "Sunk Cost"...
Industry, interestingly, gets away with abandoning projects all the time because they can just write failed projects off as a loss on their taxes- and pay less in taxes several years into the future by crediting those losses towards their USA tax obligation. It's a messed-up system, and one that Trump abused all the time in Real Estate to avoid paying taxes. It's an option available to defense contractors and private corporations like SpaceX, but it's NOT an option available to NASA. In short, abandoning a project is often still the more expensive choice even for private industry, but they can EXTERNALIZE part of that cost by writing it off as a loss for tax purposes, shoving off enough of the financial burden of abandoning the project (in ultimately higher total R&D costs) to the rest of society in the form of reduced tax contributions that abandoning a project often becomes the profitable option for a business- but the more expensive choice for society as a whole due to ways the government ends up subsidizing this decision...
Since the reveal of Dragon 2, I always thought "Where are they going to store the fuel required to do a propulsive landing? The capsule is mostly space for people and it doesn't seem to contain a lot of fuel"
That's actually not one of the limiting factors - SpaceX has already done the pad abort test and performed hover tests of Dragon 2 test models, which were perfectly fine storing fuel. The capsule has enough space for things like this. That's not a problem.
I know they did that, what I meant was that a propulsive landing takes a lot more fuel than an abort or hover test
Propulsive landing uses less fuel than an abort, by quite a bit. Remember the engines are throttled way back on landing. In an abort, they're at full power.
Also, don't forget that our atmosphere is actually quite dense and when the propulsive landing starts it's less than 200 KPH fast. Quite slow, actually. And slowing down from that is not that much of a problem, when you have the tech and know-how to put the thing in orbit in the first place.
Also, they have done propulsive landings many times now, with something much bigger and heavier than the Dragon 2 ;-)
This is such a good point. I was thinking how on the pad it went form 0 to like 300 mph up, so for it to go from 150 to 0 mph down, sounds very doable. Were they planing a hover slam landing originally?
you should do a vid with the whole story and evolution of Space X, with rocket, engine etc. comparisons, fail and successes, like contracts and financials as well.
Came here from Mind and Machine podcast, Great stuff!
Early USSR ships also had ejection seats.
So did the Apollos and the Space shuttle.
@@porko882
Apollo never had ejection seats.
Watching this after starship in 2019
informative video. you seem like a natural at this. the little bit of humor was good to balance all the information . thumbs up
+brent f thank you very much!
Subscribed, professional and straight to the point. +A little humour
Thank you very much! That means a lot :)
it would make more sense to still be able to propulsively land incase the parachutes fail
but.... can it run crisis?
justin van der werf every time a person references crisis in a RUclips comment a puppy dies a little inside!
Is Crysis FFS!!
No but it can run Half Life 3.
Can it stop water?
justin van der werf Nothing can run Crysis 1 at 60 FPS... I'm still waiting for a GPU to do it at max setting, then I'll buy one... I seriously stopped buying GPUs because of Crysis 1 and the long wait for 60FPS!
man you were basically right about all your predictions. Subscribed.
Excellent show and review of current affairs. Thanks for the fun show and I will be watching all the shows in the future. Sooo, how does one get to be a member of your space corps?
You said the ITS landing maneuver "looks nothing like how a dragon capsule would land," but how is it any different? They both do aerobraking and then propulsive landing, right? I think what's going on here, plain and simple, is that SpaceX is admitting don't have a realistic way to get to mars any time soon.
Maybe because the dragon would've had boosters on the sides and landing legs in the middle while BFS or ITS is the opposite of that. But mainly I think it's because of totally different hardware being used so the experience gained from it wouldn't have been worth the cost. I wouldn't have said "looks nothing like" like he said, but rather it's different enough not to make it worth while.
Course they don't lol, nobody does, they just playing the hype game. They should take D2 and make it land on the Moon 1st so we can establish a nice Luna Colony first. Then we'll think about Mars.
music is too loud, it is competing with your voice
You were absolutely right Tim, Red Dragon seems incredibly quaint even at this point of Starship development. But Crew Dragon propulsive landing still feels like it would be worth it if they can properly develop and certify it, especially if Dreamchaser never becomes human rated
Starship is sought to replace all of their current products. Might as well use Starship as Crew Dragon replacement in LEO in the mid-term future
You really know your stuff! It's refreshing.
They might change their mind.
Prediction: We will be very old people when the Chinese become the first to land on Mars.
I doubt that the People's Republic will ever land on Mars. Perhaps a successor to the current regime, but China has a long, long way to go before they can get a crew to land there and I doubt it will be this century even if their government changes.
They have bigger problems to worry about like falun gong
I would have made that kind of prediction 5 year ago, now I'm betting we'll have people on Mars in a decade and people living there in two, a city in 50. I know it sounds absurd, but extrapolating technology trends, it won't be as expensive as most people assume. The first dozen manned missions to Mars will probably cost more than the next 100.
shadfurman there's literally no reason to colonized Mars, so I don't expect to see that happen for a couple hundred years. Space x and NASA will visit, maybe we'll eventually get a permanent research facility. But colony? That's just throwing money away
+DevinDTV What makes you pessimistic about having a colony on Mars? I admit the cost of going there is not going to be cheap and the difficulty of simple human survival on another planet is going to be challenging to say the least.
For myself, while I will admit there is no guarantee it will happen at all, there does seem to be at least an outside possibility that a permanent settlement could happen on Mars by the end of this century, assuming that politicians don't screw it up the way they have with Antarctica. The only thing really stopping settlement of Mars is the Outer Space Treaty in a strict interpretation of Planetary Protection guidelines that would prohibit human touch of that planet.
Subbed. I have no idea why I haven't heard of you sooner. Keep up the great work!
+wolfbyte3171 hey thanks!!! That’s great, glad you found me! 🙏🙏🙏
It seems like you should have mentioned Boeing’s Starliner (not propulsively) landing on the ground and the savings with that solution. GREAT show anyway... not complaining! THANKS for the video!
I got just a little over one minute into it and then the baby scene happened. That's as far as I got. Immediate exit.
DDD BBB neat
Well... Not immediate apparently. Took some time to write that nasty comment.
@@isaacvanbaren2711
More insightful than nasty.
Math fail at @5:20 or so- 1 mile = 1.609 Kilometer, so 100mph ~= 160kph; not 62kph as stated. The second number looks right.
I would have loved a Dragon capsule droneship landing
11 minutes of blurb wrapped around a 30 second clip of Elon actually telling us why they won't pursue propulsive landing.
+beterthanlife part of science communication is providing context so they can understand the answer
Fair enough, but did we really need the history of SpaceX, again?
+beterthanlife some people don’t but according to the comments a lot of people did. I’m aiming at informing the general public and want to not assume everyone is on the same technical level. There’s PLENTY of sources out there for those of us who are looking for that.
I appreciated the brief history
You really need to ditch the space suit, or at least beyond the intro. It's kinda silly at this point.
+Sean Manny well I took a poll on a previous video and most people think I should wear the suit and helmet for intro and then suit for the rest of the video. (75% of people) so that’s what I’ve been doing
I agree with what your poll said. I like the helmet, but together with your spectacles it seems kinda odd. I think you should get rid of the binocular though. It looks childish in contrast to the space suit, IMO.
Everyday Astronaut - For the next video, you should wear just a banana hammock for ol' Sean!
Naaaahhh. Don't change a thing.
Add a propeller beanie.
Should have titled this “The History of SpaceX"
+MikeWanDoe1 context. My audience often doesn’t know how SpaceX has historically pivoted and how looking back it was the right move. Teaching history of this philosophy and reminding what the dragons purpose is can help us understand the reasoning. I aim to inform the general population, which means we often starts at page one. I understand if it’s too basic for you
Really well done video. Keep up the good work!
Judging from what I saw yesterday I think they got that propulsive landing down now.
1:03 this is the funniest and cutest part of the video about Dragon 😂😂😂
Dear NASA , please focus on building efficient scientific missions and payloads. Pay SpaceX to launch them.
The Dragon Capsule doesn't need landing gear for Earth missions. As long as it has those side-mounted rockets for flight control, and a good GPS signal, it could touch-down in a specially-made pond filled with distilled water to minimize the post-landing cleanup. SpaceX has already proven it can target an area that small with a much bigger rocket booster, so landing a Dragon Capsule in an artificial freshwater pond should be a piece of cake.
Thanks Everyday Astronaut for allaying my fears on this cancellation
With their pinpoint accuracy landing a booster. Maybe they just land the Dragon crew capsule in a body of water at the Cape, a couple initial landings at sea, and then move to a pond at the Cape
Love the channel, and having just read the comparison of both star liner and dragon I have just one question, why does Soyuz take more than twice as long as Dragon to get to the ISS.?
I love channels like this. Instant subscription!! Keep it up 👍
Travelling to Mars in a cramped Crew Dragon would be torture.
The dragon being born sence hahahahahhaha
Pretty neat channel, definitely subscribing. Like the way you lay things out. Thanks,
+Gil Vil thank you very much! That means a lot!
Wow things have really changed
This video was released one week before the plans of ITS (now Starship) was first showed. It's crazy to think that in just 3 years we have gone from first mock-ups of the ITS to now a fully built and assembled MK1 Starship! You go SpaceX!
I know you had a poll in the last video but I like only having the helmet in the intro
+Hayden Macfarlane perfect! Thanks for letting me know!
NASA was like “no ones leaving this shuttle” haha
I really don't expect to see propulsive landing with the Dragon Capsule to leave the playing field ... I expect that it will be proved but like the Falcon Heavy ... to be thoroughly vetted before unveiling. Per Elon, the Facon Heavy was nearly cancelled a number of times but still was realized ... to the tune of at least 21 million views at present. I appreciate the energy of SpaceX in their endeavors!!
I love the show! I look forward to seeing the comparison between the Space Shuttle development and SpaceX.
I got to work on some of the tooling for the dragon 2. Pretty cool stuff.
The Dragon 2 looks like a luxury liner - inside and out - compared to the Soyuz. Hoping it proves to be efficient as well.
I recently designed a toroidal sheath rocket motor for atop Astrobotic's Peregrine M-1 lightweight lander, this is a thrust-lift design using the exhaust as an atmosphere with a hardshell nacelle to add lift to the thrust which is more than thrust alone, it can hover & takeoff again on the same fuel volume afaik, very new.
The stability is well beyond having motors below the load.
I don't think you made it clear enough. Propulsive landing was too difficult to "man rate" due to the giant pile of red tape NASA would require.