This woman, Jackie Frankel Walker was my Aunt. My mothers sister. She passed away this week. She will be missed. She was an incredible person. I never knew she was on a TV show until this week.
Oh my gosh, I am so sorry! My condolences. She seems like a wonderful person. Do you know if she made any other TV appearances, she looks so familiar? Regardless she was very beautiful and from what I can tell was a very self-sufficient woman. You must be very proud to have someone like that in your family.
@105125395685112958057 Thank you for your thoughts. She did not like to talk about her glory days. I always knew she was a model, but when asked about those times, she would slyfully steer the conversation in another direction and get the focus back on you. The website I had posted previously is defunct so deleted. Peace!
"You're so pretty!" .....quite a compliment coming from another woman but what an understatement. Talk about having 'a winning smile' . The quite stunning Ms. Frankel takes beauty to a whole new level.
This woman is so gorgeous! People had such CLASS back then. She is dressed finer than any so called celebrity today. She really reminds me of Jackie Kennedy.
Are you referring to the airplane saleswoman or Jane Meadows? That hairstyle by Meadows seems more like from the 1960s to 80s. Did she time travel back to the 50s?
What a different time. Everyone was so classy and respectful. Today, TV reality shows highlight the worst of human beings and their unethical classless behaviours. Sad state of Society today.
There seems to be a general attitude now of resignation; "Society is tired of lying. Let's skip the pretense and just be as crass and vulgar in public as we are in private." This has been nothing but a cop-out. The sort of classy behavior on display here is what we as a society hoped to _aspire_ to if we wanted to be treated the same way. IOW it was the least we used to expect, was a little class, manners, deference, and humility. Too much work for the average citizen today, apparently. "Let's take the lazy way out. I'd rather have the attention than respect." Selling out requires nothing of us but surrendering our self-respect. I'd prefer to aspire to something better, frankly.
@Peter MacKay Well there's no shortage of trolls out there who think it's good sport to be insulting and tasteless. They're easy to pick out and easy to ignore. But there are others who I would never expect to have sold out their self-respect to the degree that they have, especially where it concerns politics. I don't think anybody is under the impression that our institutions are all sweetness and on the up-and-up; but it's up to US to fix that and if we're going to be no better than the people we sent to Washington or the State House to run things we should expect what we've been getting for the past 20 years.
@@donalobrien9422 Yes there were but the women back then accepted that it came with the territory and in Ms. Frankel's case, her character allowed for taking those whistles as a compliment. Even Bennett Cerf's "out front" statements to her she humbly appreciated. She knew she was pretty but carried herself with such grace and poise that to me, it personified the word "class." Juxtapose Ms. Frankel's demeanor with that of today's women (of the angry and entitled persuasion) who see a potential grievance or offense in nearly any innocent interaction with a male, and is ready to pounce at the slightest suggestion of appreciation for their looks, all the while knowing in their own eyes that they are attractive (often even when they're not). Makes one perceive the need for writing a contractual agreement before even uttering "hello" in a woman's direction. THAT is the true difference here and in the grand scheme of things 1967 wasn't so long ago that at least in public or an intimate gathering both men and women displayed the sort of class and deference on display here -- because both sexes and especially women knew how to handle themselves in these situations, and by and large, had the maturity to behave accordingly. There is no such self-discipline today and that comes from a general lack of respect for others while expecting or even demanding respect from those same people; and it's no accident that sexual harassment and sexual assaults have proliferated in this environment. There's a world of difference between _pride_ and _self-respect,_ and this vid pleasantly demonstrates that difference.
@@Chahlie I always stand up for women and yet find it strange that other men do not. The reason why many young men do not do it is due to the fact they find it strange.
The intellect, class and brain power of the panel is more that some countries. Yes, manners... that's the way our parents taught us..... I seldom see it anymore.
Amazing all the positive , glowing comments just because someone has the good fortune to be born beautiful . Something they have no control over . It's definitely an advantage in life to be born beautiful whether male or female .
What a fantastically gorgeous, classy well dressed lady. The only time I remember people dressing like this was in the early to mid 1960s when I was a child. Mrs. Frankel must have looked simply radiant in real life.
She is graceful, articulate and beautiful. The beauty part is god given, the rest is up to her. She wouldn't be so stunning if she didn't have the grace etc. Lovely lady.
Having been directed to her website from a few years back before she passed away, it was readily apparent that grace and poise came natural to this lovely person, and that natural beauty remained all her life. She was just as stunning in her 70s as she was some 58 years ago, with a spirit and personality to match. The Good Lord produced an example we should all hope to aspire to.
@@scarsdale22 If I was referring to a particular god, then yes. I"m not. Notice how not capitalizing the word in the previous sentence is considered correct?
@@slimdudeDJC You've gotta remember that women in that era, especially those categorized as 'beautiful' &/or 'gorgeous', were held up as sexual 'objects' in the morès of that time. Men & women weren't as UPTIGHT then, when that type of remark was made to point out one's beauty &/or handsomeness...!
The beautiful manners and deportment are so refreshing to watch. I'm grateful to have grown up in that era. I watched WML as a child. I hope I still treat people as these kindly mannered people did then.
Ginny Lorenz, lovely manners, indeed. I love the beautiful etiquette of the 1950s and the fact that this program retained that charm even into the next decade.
TooLooze, Blacks did, indeed, appear on TV during that era, though not nearly as much as did Whites. But why would you expect them to have done so? They were definitely the minority group at that time, so why would a tiny percentage of the population have as much airtime as do reps of the majority? Secondly, a quick perusal of on-line lists confirms the presence of many Blacks on WML, many of whom appeared during the elegant era of which we speak: Belafonte, Sammy Davis Jr., Diahann Carroll, Louis Armstrong, Chubby Checker, Lena Horne, Nat King Cole--to name a few. And a list I saw contains also Nipsey Russell, Diana Sands, Johnny Mathis, Nancy Wilson, Count Basie, Pearl Bailey, Muhammad Ali, Ruby Dee, Marian Anderson, Leslie Uggams, and others. That certainly doesn't sound like "no Blacks on TV" to me. Stop buying the hype that has convinced you that absolutely everything about America's past--about your ancestors--was backward and racist.
TooLooze, and lastly, as for that glass ceiling, I would dare say that few men in America excelled as much as did Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene Francis. And some of the guests! I think of Norma Walker, mayor of Aurora, Colorado, as one who acheived a position the average man in the 1950s and today would never achieve. Was there a men's club? Certainly. Why shouldn't there be? The country was founded by men! And men--real men--assume leadership roles over women (even, amusingly, when some are not properly equipped for the task, and even if the woman in a situation is intellectually superior). I think God designed men that way. And in their imperfection, this natural dominant personality has manifested itself as domineering--not a good thing, but not a surprising thing, either.
Steve Allen is forever adorable. So innocently boyish, funny, humble and forever surprised whenever he’d correctly guessed anything, yet still tenuous to ask another question even when he was on the right track.
Therese Ember, your comments about Steve Allen are so true. He was incredibly funny and was perfect for that era of TV where there was practically no editing. His flubs and crack-ups are almost as legendary as his humor. He was at his best when he got the giggles at his own lines and better yet at his mistakes. Those giggles were infectious; although I was just a boy at the time, I can imagine that a large part of America got tears in their eyes from laughing so hard just following him. Truly, a great contributor to comedy and the world around him.
Quite stunned to see the level of humour, wit, intelligence and charm. Not only does this not seem dated, it seems so far in advance of what we see today. Or maybe I'm just getting very old!!
He was such a wonderful guy -- supremely intelligent, quick wit, multi-talented; and his quick comeback was just another example. He and Jane Meadows had a true romance and it's easy to see that they both were comfortable in their own skin, knew each other better than they knew themselves, and were the perfect combination of character, wit, and intelligence.
You better believe it. Her grace, poise, and elegance wasn't what I'd call commonplace, but that was certainly the standard of behavior we were brought up to exhibit in that era. At some point in the last 50-some years our society decided that it was tired of living up to that standard -- too much work, I guess -- and replaced it with a standard of no standards. So it shouldn't be surprising that we grow more crass and hateful by the day. I get that social norms are bound to evolve from one generation to the next, but you'd think we'd see _improvement_ and not regression. I think that's why we're inclined to pine for "the good old days," even though it's natural to wax nostalgic about a bygone period in our lives when we thought everything was so much better. Chances are it wasn't -- but the standard Ms. Frankel set for us ought to be timeless and aspirational always and everywhere.
Regina Fallangie No, she wasn’t. Selling planes using her good looks: nothing special. Being a model: nothing that can be called „ahead of her time“ Flying a plane as an amateur: in the US not uncommon at that time.
@@loge10 I was about to say, I'm only sad because these fine people made their mark on society, and now that they _are_ gone their class and deportment has been paved over by crassness and gratuitously boorish behavior. Makes me grateful for these simple videos from a bygone era.
And Jayne Meadows' comment after the applause and laughter die down is a classic, too: "Mrs. Frankel doesn't go with the product, darling." I always laugh at that one, too, no matter how many times I see this clip.
CorvusOfMellori Steve Allen was a million years ahead of his time as you probably know or guessed. He was hip before anyone was. He was smart ,quick, and erudite without being even a tiny bit snobby.He was without doubt a one off.
+Spider Bug I met him once in about 1970 something .I was about 14 or so and my Uncle worked for NBC at 30 Rock.Steve Allen was doing something there and my Dad and I got an introduction to him from my uncle who knew him.He WASa very nice man.What I remember most is that he was , or seemed totally genuine and not like what I imagined a show business person would be like.He was just a regular guy with lots of comic and musical talent .
+CorvusOfMellori Yes, and a perfect example of the civilized wit that characterized the people on this show, and is so sadly lacking in today's crass pop culture.
"Adults behaving like adults." Interesting concept, ain't it? On one level it has been a curse, growing up in the 60s with these examples on TV and in the movies, and my own parents who understood what it meant to be poised, classy, respectful, and elegant yet down-to-earth -- and having to watch this steady deterioration of character, class, decorum, and exemplary behavior over the last 50-some-odd years. Not sure who to hold responsible, other than to say the three generations that have come up hence have not done especially well by our children, collectively. Then again, every generation looks at their childhoods and any history before theirs as being sorta bourgeois, and out of a desire to be hip, they press the limits of decorum and polite society. I do feel like I was born 40 years too late; but then again, if I were, I'd be dead now. So there's that....
Groucho was as quick-witted as they get, but there was something about his personality that rubbed me the wrong way. Steve Allen OTOH was _brilliant_ -- quick wit, a brilliant mind, multi-talented, and above all, humble.
The thing I love about program is how the gentlemen stand up when they greet the contestants and the Mystery Guest! Manners we don't see anymore!! So sad!😢
This should be an invaluable public record of who and what "gentlemen" and "ladies" _were_ at one point, and could stand to be required viewing for present and succeeding generations of young people -- and even older ones, frankly. We used to _aspire_ to this caliber of behavior, and now we denigrate it in favor of moral relativity. That's the sign of a society which doesn't want to be held accountable for their behavior and an absence of self-discipline.
These old videos are delightful, and the cheerful atmosphere is highly contageous. In many ways contesting cute catvideos when it comes to improving me and my day. Thanks!
That pretty much sums it up. The longer TV is around the more it plays to the lowest common denominator. After all, it now has the internet to compete with. A great segue to a Drano commercial.
Society can return to civility if it willed itself to take the high road. Manners, politeness, etc. never really left me even when I was betrayed by friends and family.
Same here. But even the behavior of these folks back then compared to now makes me feel like I was born 40 years too late. Back then people _aspired_ to class and elegance; today young folks are going out of their way to eschew both. "Class" has been supplanted by "crass," and it seems the more angry and resentful people are the more they're encouraged. Playing to the lowest common denominator isn't how one gains respect, it's how one _loses_ it. That's one big reason why I look upon these vintage shows with nostalgia. Pride is the present-day currency, whereas back then it was _self-respect._
What a lovely lady and respectful group of people. With the news going around today, you'd think women were chained inside their homes until recently. This woman was a pilot and big time salesperson.
Why even " Sky King " fell for aviation with his Cessna 310 named the " Songbird " Also flew with his niece Penny. Those were great aviation days, I always looked upward when I heard a plane and years later bought and flew my own Cessna. LOL
@@tiffsaver Those were really great days in the 50's LOL I loved Saturday tv as they always had great programs. Sky King ( Kirby Grant ) and Penny ( Gloria Winters ) were always solving crime. Glad the post brought back some good memories !
Yes, we have beautiful women obviously today all over the world, but the huge difference of the beautiful women of the 20s, 30s, 40"s, and 50's was that they were also very elegant and had grace. Unfortunately, today most women do not dress elegantly or have grace.
That woman was absolutely Gorgeous. Look at how classy women dressed. not like todays trash, pants hanging off their rears, track pants, full of tattoos. This woman was CLASS. America has sunk.
Not really sunk, but the women of the USA have dressed themselves down for comfort and to make a "statement!" They are still gorgeous and delightful and fun to be around! I love 'em!
@@Celisar1 You might find it crazy, but back in the day WOMEN whistled at MEN. It went both ways, Hollywood even featured it in 1940s-50s films like "Anchors Aweigh", "The More The Merrier" and "Skirts Ahoy". It usually didn't get perverted and excessively sexual in tone until the late 60s and 70s. Sadly, it changed.
The guests generally went to school in the 20s and 30s when you had to have good penmanship. Also, they wrote almost everything so it was even more important. A lost art.... =( Good observation!
Handwriting is a relic in 2020. Our schools don't even teach it anymore. The penmanship coming out of our high school kids nowadays is embarrassing. A microcosm of their overall education.
@@briane173 Actually, teaching formal "penmanship" to second/third graders was all but stopped (in our state) around the millennium. Fun fact - the time was filled with numerous other federsl and state mandates that were deemed "more important" than practicing how to write in efficient, attractive longhand. It was considered old fashioned, especially since computers were now #1. Signed, a retired K-12 teacher who saw it all change... and, sometimes, not for the better!
@@richarddixon7855 I feel for you. As an investigator for military recruiting I've seen first-hand the consequences of these kids relying on computer keyboards and tablets for literally everything. One EMP and we're gonna have a kazillion kids sitting in a stupor because they won't know what to do or how to communicate.
Jane Meadows, Arlene Francis, and Jackie Frankl -- this episode is certainly a treat for the eyes. Yes, Bennett, I bet she has wanted to publish all her life!
It was a different time. Almost nobody called it "sexism" back then. Seeing Steve Allen (and Jayne Meadows), practically the inventor of late-night TV, and an innovator in his field, reminds me what enjoyment I got from his type of entertainment.
As a rule even today we only call sexism sexism if it is sexism. The true problem here is the degree of everyday sexism that many are still used to so that they don’t want to acknowledge it for what it is.
It wasn't considered a gross insult to a woman then, unless it got obscene, such as on a street by some unruly jerks who should have kept their mouths shut. Just saying how nice you look to an attractive woman (or man from a woman) today is enough, but gets the essential point across without being impolite.
Yes, she is/was very pretty but if you live in the South you see beautiful women like that everyday, especially in any Southern college. Most of them have no idea how beautiful they are.
Women spend millions to look like Jackie Frankel, Men spend millions to marry a woman like Jackie Frankel, beautiful, charming, beautiful, stunning, elegant, even her handwriting can be admired, all round perfection, the world lost something when Jackie went back upstairs, what a loss.
@@HariSeldon913 She also had a marvelous sense of humor; wasn't naïve about her man (men are men everywhere) but at the same time didn't feel threatened at all by beautiful women who I'm sure flocked around Steve Allen on a regular basis -- because she was confident, comfortable in her own skin, and I can vouch for the fact that Steve and Jayne were madly in love all their married life.
Steve Allen was an amazingly classy and brilliant person--comedian, host, musician, composer. His Sunday evening show with its regular cast was one of my all time favorites.
You see these panel celebs and imagine they live such glam perfect lives, especially Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene , I started watching WML a few months back, and really love the show. Was recently shocked n saddened to find Dorothy passed in such heartbreaking, questionable circumstances. God be with her family. 🙏🏻💜💔
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This woman, Jackie Frankel Walker was my Aunt. My mothers sister. She passed away this week. She will be missed. She was an incredible person. I never knew she was on a TV show until this week.
Oh my gosh, I am so sorry! My condolences. She seems like a wonderful person. Do you know if she made any other TV appearances, she looks so familiar? Regardless she was very beautiful and from what I can tell was a very self-sufficient woman. You must be very proud to have someone like that in your family.
@105125395685112958057 Thank you for your thoughts. She did not like to talk about her glory days. I always knew she was a model, but when asked about those times, she would slyfully steer the conversation in another direction and get the focus back on you. The website I had posted previously is defunct so deleted.
Peace!
How Cool, May she R.I.P.
She was a lovely lady. RIP.
+Don Paul Jankas She was as classy as they come.
"You're so pretty!" .....quite a compliment coming from another woman but what an understatement. Talk about having 'a winning smile' . The quite stunning Ms. Frankel takes beauty to a whole new level.
The real pretty is her behavior and the behavior of others around her.
Yes she attractive. It's her lovely nature that shines really. Has noone notuced Steves wife? She is the beautiful one. And she's blonde
@@bighands69 you are spot on
I don’t understand your point. Women compliment women on a much more frequent basis than men compliment women.
@@Deejaay83urj38 Her line about Frankel not coming with the product was cute.
This woman is so gorgeous! People had such CLASS back then. She is dressed finer than any so called celebrity today. She really reminds me of Jackie Kennedy.
She certainly had the same first name!
The wolf whistles were very classy.
Absolutely stunning woman. Beautiful, classy, and intelligent.
Are you referring to the airplane saleswoman or Jane Meadows? That hairstyle by Meadows seems more like from the 1960s to 80s. Did she time travel back to the 50s?
What a different time. Everyone was so classy and respectful. Today, TV reality shows highlight the worst of human beings and their unethical classless behaviours. Sad state of Society today.
There seems to be a general attitude now of resignation; "Society is tired of lying. Let's skip the pretense and just be as crass and vulgar in public as we are in private." This has been nothing but a cop-out. The sort of classy behavior on display here is what we as a society hoped to _aspire_ to if we wanted to be treated the same way. IOW it was the least we used to expect, was a little class, manners, deference, and humility. Too much work for the average citizen today, apparently. "Let's take the lazy way out. I'd rather have the attention than respect." Selling out requires nothing of us but surrendering our self-respect. I'd prefer to aspire to something better, frankly.
@Peter MacKay Well there's no shortage of trolls out there who think it's good sport to be insulting and tasteless. They're easy to pick out and easy to ignore. But there are others who I would never expect to have sold out their self-respect to the degree that they have, especially where it concerns politics. I don't think anybody is under the impression that our institutions are all sweetness and on the up-and-up; but it's up to US to fix that and if we're going to be no better than the people we sent to Washington or the State House to run things we should expect what we've been getting for the past 20 years.
"Everyone was so classy and respectful"
Several wolf whistlers in the audience
@@donalobrien9422 Yes there were but the women back then accepted that it came with the territory and in Ms. Frankel's case, her character allowed for taking those whistles as a compliment. Even Bennett Cerf's "out front" statements to her she humbly appreciated. She knew she was pretty but carried herself with such grace and poise that to me, it personified the word "class."
Juxtapose Ms. Frankel's demeanor with that of today's women (of the angry and entitled persuasion) who see a potential grievance or offense in nearly any innocent interaction with a male, and is ready to pounce at the slightest suggestion of appreciation for their looks, all the while knowing in their own eyes that they are attractive (often even when they're not). Makes one perceive the need for writing a contractual agreement before even uttering "hello" in a woman's direction.
THAT is the true difference here and in the grand scheme of things 1967 wasn't so long ago that at least in public or an intimate gathering both men and women displayed the sort of class and deference on display here -- because both sexes and especially women knew how to handle themselves in these situations, and by and large, had the maturity to behave accordingly. There is no such self-discipline today and that comes from a general lack of respect for others while expecting or even demanding respect from those same people; and it's no accident that sexual harassment and sexual assaults have proliferated in this environment. There's a world of difference between _pride_ and _self-respect,_ and this vid pleasantly demonstrates that difference.
and no tattoos
She's knockout. Pure class. Even the blokes had manners back then. Stand up for a lady and take your hat off when you enter a room.
I remember recently seeing a lady enter a room and say "oh don't stand up please" ... as none of the men were....
Absolutely
@@Chahlie
I always stand up for women and yet find it strange that other men do not.
The reason why many young men do not do it is due to the fact they find it strange.
@@bighands69 well I think you should always stand up when you meet someone. Men or woman
Why would anyone stand up when someone enters a room? You should, however, stand up when you meet or greet someone, whether it be man or woman.
These people are all so charming, gracious, intelligent etc., etc., that watching each of these episodes is a totally elevating experience.
Quite unlike The Lady Gang.
...you’ve hit on (and illuminated)the key point of nearly allll things ‘then’vs.’now’...”elevating experiences”...:)
eoselan
you need to get out more often
Including the wolf whistles?
THEN ALONG CAME DIVERSITY.
Wow. She's just plane beautiful.
EnoVarma She was
I see what you did there... very clever ;-)
Nice play on words!
plain not plane Ignorance
@@martinwoyzeck2634
Then you wouldnt have the pun!
"What's my line?" Simply an elegant blend of manners, class, formality and courtesy.
I liked how the men dressed in a tux and bowtie..
The intellect, class and brain power of the panel is more that some countries. Yes, manners... that's the way our parents taught us..... I seldom see it anymore.
Amazing all the positive , glowing comments just because someone has the good fortune to be born beautiful .
Something they have no control over .
It's definitely an advantage in life to be born beautiful whether male or female .
What a fantastically gorgeous, classy well dressed lady. The only time I remember people dressing like this was in the early to mid 1960s when I was a child. Mrs. Frankel must have looked simply radiant in real life.
She had to have, because looking at her website photo taken some 50 years later she was just as radiant and gorgeous in 2013 as she was in 1964.
They have the same dress today.
She is graceful, articulate and beautiful. The beauty part is god given, the rest is up to her. She wouldn't be so stunning if she didn't have the grace etc. Lovely lady.
and her handwriting was impeccable....
Having been directed to her website from a few years back before she passed away, it was readily apparent that grace and poise came natural to this lovely person, and that natural beauty remained all her life. She was just as stunning in her 70s as she was some 58 years ago, with a spirit and personality to match. The Good Lord produced an example we should all hope to aspire to.
God given..... not “god” given....
@@scarsdale22 If I was referring to a particular god, then yes. I"m not. Notice how not capitalizing the word in the previous sentence is considered correct?
Very true. Her deportment and reserve are her beauty. She's not so much remarkably stunning as that she has no fault to her features.
That gorgeous airplane saleswoman could’ve sold anything! She was so charming, too.
"Mrs Frankel doesn't come with the product dear" classic humor
XMLarry, lol! I loved that, too. As a wife, she played it beautifully cool.
I am so glad I missed seeing Jayne at the beginning. Once she made her comment toward Steve and I realized that was Jayne Meadows I promptly lost it.
XMLarry
Would have been interesting to be a fly on their wall that night . . .
@@slimdudeDJC
You've gotta remember that women in that era, especially those categorized as 'beautiful' &/or 'gorgeous', were held up as sexual 'objects' in the morès of that time. Men & women weren't as UPTIGHT then, when that type of remark was made to point out one's beauty &/or handsomeness...!
Steve and Jayne were two very smart and quick-witted people. Oh, and classy too.
The beautiful manners and deportment are so refreshing to watch. I'm grateful to have grown up in that era. I watched WML as a child. I hope I still treat people as these kindly mannered people did then.
Ginny Lorenz, lovely manners, indeed. I love the beautiful etiquette of the 1950s and the fact that this program retained that charm even into the next decade.
Ginny Lorenz i
Yes, as long as you forget about segregation, no black folks on TV and glass ceilings for the ladies, it was peachy.
TooLooze, Blacks did, indeed, appear on TV during that era, though not nearly as much as did Whites. But why would you expect them to have done so? They were definitely the minority group at that time, so why would a tiny percentage of the population have as much airtime as do reps of the majority?
Secondly, a quick perusal of on-line lists confirms the presence of many Blacks on WML, many of whom appeared during the elegant era of which we speak: Belafonte, Sammy Davis Jr., Diahann Carroll, Louis Armstrong, Chubby Checker, Lena Horne, Nat King Cole--to name a few. And a list I saw contains also Nipsey Russell, Diana Sands, Johnny Mathis, Nancy Wilson, Count Basie, Pearl Bailey, Muhammad Ali, Ruby Dee, Marian Anderson, Leslie Uggams, and others. That certainly doesn't sound like "no Blacks on TV" to me.
Stop buying the hype that has convinced you that absolutely everything about America's past--about your ancestors--was backward and racist.
TooLooze, and lastly, as for that glass ceiling, I would dare say that few men in America excelled as much as did Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene Francis. And some of the guests! I think of Norma Walker, mayor of Aurora, Colorado, as one who acheived a position the average man in the 1950s and today would never achieve.
Was there a men's club? Certainly. Why shouldn't there be? The country was founded by men! And men--real men--assume leadership roles over women (even, amusingly, when some are not properly equipped for the task, and even if the woman in a situation is intellectually superior). I think God designed men that way. And in their imperfection, this natural dominant personality has manifested itself as domineering--not a good thing, but not a surprising thing, either.
“Mrs. Frankel doesn’t go with the product, darling.”
😂 Nicely done.
Natural beauty with grace and elegance. Hard to come by in this era of social media.
Timeless entertainment!
Today's tv could learn a lot by revisiting these old wonderful shows!
Steve Allen is forever adorable. So innocently boyish, funny, humble and forever surprised whenever he’d correctly guessed anything, yet still tenuous to ask another question even when he was on the right track.
Therese Ember, your comments about Steve Allen are so true. He was incredibly funny and was perfect for that era of TV where there was practically no editing. His flubs and crack-ups are almost as legendary as his humor. He was at his best when he got the giggles at his own lines and better yet at his mistakes. Those giggles were infectious; although I was just a boy at the time, I can imagine that a large part of America got tears in their eyes from laughing so hard just following him. Truly, a great contributor to comedy and the world around him.
And Cerf was the opposite
Bennett Cerf was very personable- he just had a dry sense of humor.
@@cottonclarksaSo true!
i love this show. Intelligent witty banter thoughtful questions, etc.
This was a benchmark for my childhood. I liked it then BECAUSE it was intelligent, witty, and superbly classy.
Quite stunned to see the level of humour, wit, intelligence and charm. Not only does this not seem dated, it seems so far in advance of what we see today. Or maybe I'm just getting very old!!
No, we all share that feeling.
No matter how many times I see this, I laugh out loud at Steve Allen's "I'll take one" comment!
I always liked Steve Allen
I used to watch steve allen on his show in 1961 always thought he was great
He was married to jane meadows
His wife's reply was just as funny !
He was such a wonderful guy -- supremely intelligent, quick wit, multi-talented; and his quick comeback was just another example. He and Jane Meadows had a true romance and it's easy to see that they both were comfortable in their own skin, knew each other better than they knew themselves, and were the perfect combination of character, wit, and intelligence.
The man was a nut. Hilarious...
She had a very wholesome, girl next door kind of beauty
You better believe it. Her grace, poise, and elegance wasn't what I'd call commonplace, but that was certainly the standard of behavior we were brought up to exhibit in that era. At some point in the last 50-some years our society decided that it was tired of living up to that standard -- too much work, I guess -- and replaced it with a standard of no standards. So it shouldn't be surprising that we grow more crass and hateful by the day. I get that social norms are bound to evolve from one generation to the next, but you'd think we'd see _improvement_ and not regression. I think that's why we're inclined to pine for "the good old days," even though it's natural to wax nostalgic about a bygone period in our lives when we thought everything was so much better. Chances are it wasn't -- but the standard Ms. Frankel set for us ought to be timeless and aspirational always and everywhere.
She's gorgeous and lovely at the same time:)
This beautiful lady passed away 2014 aged 75. She was still a very pretty lady.
Beautiful, classy, elegant career woman, & a pilot among other talents. She was ahead of her time.
Regina Fallangie
No, she wasn’t.
Selling planes using her good looks: nothing special.
Being a model: nothing that can be called „ahead of her time“
Flying a plane as an amateur: in the US not uncommon at that time.
I love this show . But watch it with sadness as well,knowing all these people are no longer with us.
Nor, sadly, are there many people in the public eye with that kind class...
@@loge10 I was about to say, I'm only sad because these fine people made their mark on society, and now that they _are_ gone their class and deportment has been paved over by crassness and gratuitously boorish behavior. Makes me grateful for these simple videos from a bygone era.
She was a beautiful charming intelligent lady… my condolences. So poised, great sense of humor & the epitome of grace & class.
It would be hard keeping your mind on the airplane she was selling.
Her hair and dress are so stylish! Very gorgeous! :D
What a Beautiful woman !
Add to that her lovely voice, refined, but never pretentious speech and manners...I'll stop here, although I've only just begun...
Very pretty and classy
AND the hair and dress were so classic they could've been worn in any era since.
And Jayne Meadows' comment after the applause and laughter die down is a classic, too: "Mrs. Frankel doesn't go with the product, darling." I always laugh at that one, too, no matter how many times I see this clip.
Wow! This was when TV had class... and was actually entertaining!
I would buy an airplane in a heartbeat if it were sold by Ms. Jackie Frankel. What a woman!
Stupid
The longer you watch this contestant, the more enchantingly beautiful she seems.
Almost like watching Betty Page, hard to stop watching
That airplane saleswoman was absolutely gorgeous and so gracious.
Wow, beauty and brains! What a stunning combination! Bet she was the most successful and talented salesperson ever! Lovely voice too.
2:17 "Is it made at all out of metal?"
"Yes."
"Has it any moving parts?"
"Yes."
"I'll take one!!"
CorvusOfMellori Steve Allen was a million years ahead of his time as you probably know or guessed. He was hip before anyone was. He was smart ,quick, and erudite without being even a tiny bit snobby.He was without doubt a one off.
+Spider Bug I met him once in about 1970 something .I was about 14 or so and my Uncle worked for NBC at 30 Rock.Steve Allen was doing something there and my Dad and I got an introduction to him from my uncle who knew him.He WASa very nice man.What I remember most is that he was , or seemed totally genuine and not like what I imagined a show business person would be like.He was just a regular guy with lots of comic and musical talent .
+CorvusOfMellori Yes, and a perfect example of the civilized wit that characterized the people on this show, and is so sadly lacking in today's crass pop culture.
I met him once, too--he could just sit down at a piano & compose music right on-the-spot.
it's like we saw the same video!!!!
Adults behaving like adults. My wife and I have our kids watch this show here on RUclips. It's an education in wit and manners.
"Adults behaving like adults." Interesting concept, ain't it? On one level it has been a curse, growing up in the 60s with these examples on TV and in the movies, and my own parents who understood what it meant to be poised, classy, respectful, and elegant yet down-to-earth -- and having to watch this steady deterioration of character, class, decorum, and exemplary behavior over the last 50-some-odd years. Not sure who to hold responsible, other than to say the three generations that have come up hence have not done especially well by our children, collectively.
Then again, every generation looks at their childhoods and any history before theirs as being sorta bourgeois, and out of a desire to be hip, they press the limits of decorum and polite society. I do feel like I was born 40 years too late; but then again, if I were, I'd be dead now. So there's that....
Steve Allen was hilarious and so quick witted... used to love his tv show
Groucho was as quick-witted as they get, but there was something about his personality that rubbed me the wrong way. Steve Allen OTOH was _brilliant_ -- quick wit, a brilliant mind, multi-talented, and above all, humble.
The thing I love about program is how the gentlemen stand up when they greet the contestants and the Mystery Guest! Manners we don't see anymore!! So sad!😢
This should be an invaluable public record of who and what "gentlemen" and "ladies" _were_ at one point, and could stand to be required viewing for present and succeeding generations of young people -- and even older ones, frankly. We used to _aspire_ to this caliber of behavior, and now we denigrate it in favor of moral relativity. That's the sign of a society which doesn't want to be held accountable for their behavior and an absence of self-discipline.
Class! That's the word, back then, people had respect for each other as well! Sadly that's all gone now its all about sex!
Seems that people were so much more soft spoken, professional and decent in those times - especially on TV.
A beautiful and natural smile that would melt an iceberg. 1938-2014. Lovely, multi talented lady.
Charming and delightful.
What was the 1938-2014 date about? I hope it doesn't mean the lady has passed.
@@stephenjohnson8592 yes she did pass away in May of 2014
What an attractive lady, and I loved her voice. Just all around classy.
A completely different world. Everybody was so gracious, witty, intelligent, well spoken, in general charming. I do miss these days.
yanknoz I agree. Society is nothing like that now😔
@@angelicam.6876 Where do you think it all went wrong?
@@paddycooper2267 Our days.
@@yanknoz9710 Either your parents fault, or yours.
@@paddycooper2267 when you don't know the difference between "our" and "are," our days are numbered.
Wonderful episode. First time watcher.
A beautiful, stylish and articulate lady who exhibited great charm.
She is absolutely stunning.
She is truly stunning
These old videos are delightful, and the cheerful atmosphere is highly contageous. In many ways contesting cute catvideos when it comes to improving me and my day. Thanks!
What a smile she has. ❤️
Her chalk was gliding over the blackboard like magic. Such smooth handwriting!
Oh my god, she is absolutely gorgeous!
This woman was elegant and charming. I certainly enjoyed watching the panel and their question. Ms. Frankel handled them with such delightful dignity.
"She used to be a model on TV which is the nicest thing I've heard about TV in a long time" woooh
And it hasn't gotten any better, John. RIP....
Seven+ minutes of entertainment. Thank you for posting this video....Mac
Just let’s us see what we have lost, manners politeness intelligence and class
None of those 'reality' shows that abound today.
I was just thinking 'poise' and people that know how to answer "how do you do". It can't really be that hard can it?
That pretty much sums it up. The longer TV is around the more it plays to the lowest common denominator. After all, it now has the internet to compete with. A great segue to a Drano commercial.
Colin, you've certainly got that right....and it's such a shame.....
Society can return to civility if it willed itself to take the high road. Manners, politeness, etc. never really left me even when I was betrayed by friends and family.
life goes on....we are now in a manner-less world. those beautiful days are gone!
Rony sadfully they are gone
@@SladesVWBeetle Not me and my wife we live a 1950s life apart from the web. our tv car clothes everything.
Clifftonic Studios Wow that’s outstanding!!!!
Vintage Car Yesterday thanks
Roman City I agree
I used to watch this show when I was a kid. Sheesh, I'm feeling old right now....
Same here. But even the behavior of these folks back then compared to now makes me feel like I was born 40 years too late. Back then people _aspired_ to class and elegance; today young folks are going out of their way to eschew both. "Class" has been supplanted by "crass," and it seems the more angry and resentful people are the more they're encouraged. Playing to the lowest common denominator isn't how one gains respect, it's how one _loses_ it. That's one big reason why I look upon these vintage shows with nostalgia. Pride is the present-day currency, whereas back then it was _self-respect._
Ah, those were the days. Good natured humour, manners and style!
Where did it all go wrong?
1965 hart- celler act
Liberal Democrats got elected.
The Malignant Mango awakened his mouth-breathing MAGAts and made it “ok” to be crass, vulgar, angry and proudly misinformed.
JFK's assassination was the beginning of the end...
1968..
WOW!
With her looks, she must selling planes faster than they can manufacture them.
Only if people actually had the money (or credit) for them.
That was such a great time for fashion...little black dresses à la Audrey Hepburn and sexy beehive hairdos...I miss those days.
You mean you don't celebrate morbid obesity and track pants?
This lady fills a sheath dress much nicer than A. Hepburn or Jackie K. Her figure is perfect for this dress.
What a lovely lady and respectful group of people. With the news going around today, you'd think women were chained inside their homes until recently. This woman was a pilot and big time salesperson.
what a beautiful woman :O and she's so cute and friendly, now I know I was born too late :(
She was an amazing woman! Pilot too! The actress Susan Oliver became an accomplished pilot too.!🙂
What a wonderful girl! This is my all-time favorite guest on the show!
Mrs. Frankel was gorgeous in the classical way. Otherwise, just plain beautiful.
Such a simple premise. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I wonder how many men bought an airplane from her, only to ask themselves the next day, "WHAT WAS I THINKING??"
I would have
That and l don't even know how to fly 🤔
Why even " Sky King " fell for aviation with his Cessna 310 named the " Songbird " Also flew with his niece Penny. Those were great aviation days, I always looked upward when I heard a plane and years later bought and flew my own Cessna. LOL
@@richardsmith4187
'PENNY'!!! Omg, I'm 74-years old, and that name just came "flying" back. God bless you.
@@tiffsaver Those were really great days in the 50's LOL I loved Saturday tv as they always had great programs. Sky King ( Kirby Grant ) and Penny ( Gloria Winters ) were always solving crime. Glad the post brought back some good memories !
Now that woman has it all. Thanks for the video.
Yes, we have beautiful women obviously today all over the world, but the huge difference of the beautiful women of the 20s, 30s, 40"s, and 50's was that they were also very elegant and had grace. Unfortunately, today most women do not dress elegantly or have grace.
What a wonderful game type programme very well spoken presenters and a bit of banter thrown in , we don't seem to have this nowadays
None come to mind in the US. Fairly common in BBC radio panel shows. I don’t have any experience of the TV in Britain.
What a lady. Classy, elegant, and proud. Lovely to boot.
Not as remarkable back then as such a lady would be now..
She was of the Jackie Kennedy type, in class and presentation.
Amazing that a woman back in the 50s or 60s was in such a high position like that... Pretty amazing. And she's a knockout
Watch more of the program to see many women is higher positions. But in general it was much more difficult to achieve such a position.
That woman was absolutely Gorgeous. Look at how classy women dressed. not like todays trash, pants hanging off their rears, track pants, full of tattoos. This woman was CLASS. America has sunk.
America, number one! 🐶🐶
Don't forget the pajama-clad shoppers at Walmart.
Not really sunk, but the women of the USA have dressed themselves down for comfort and to make a "statement!" They are still gorgeous and delightful and fun to be around! I love 'em!
If you say that about women I can only imagine what you will say about men nowadays.
Wow ! She really is a BEAUTY !!!
Gotta love the cat calls when she’s signing in. Do that today, you end up in court.
Which is a good development. I hate these catcalls, so disrespectful and reducing women to an object immediately evaluated by their looks only.
@@Celisar1 You might find it crazy, but back in the day WOMEN whistled at MEN. It went both ways, Hollywood even featured it in 1940s-50s films like "Anchors Aweigh", "The More The Merrier" and "Skirts Ahoy". It usually didn't get perverted and excessively sexual in tone until the late 60s and 70s. Sadly, it changed.
It is worth noting, if you watch several of these shows it’s clear that good penmanship is a lost art. Most guests have great signatures.
The guests generally went to school in the 20s and 30s when you had to have good penmanship. Also, they wrote almost everything so it was even more important. A lost art.... =( Good observation!
There is no penmanship in today's society. Everything is
Printed.
WHAT a signature! I saw Mamie van Doren on this recently and she also had a beautiful signature. Handwriting was a craft back then!
Handwriting is a relic in 2020. Our schools don't even teach it anymore. The penmanship coming out of our high school kids nowadays is embarrassing. A microcosm of their overall education.
@@briane173 Actually, teaching formal "penmanship" to second/third graders was all but stopped (in our state) around the millennium. Fun fact - the time was filled with numerous other federsl and state mandates that were deemed "more important" than practicing how to write in efficient, attractive longhand. It was considered old fashioned, especially since computers were now #1. Signed, a retired K-12 teacher who saw it all change... and, sometimes, not for the better!
@@richarddixon7855 I feel for you. As an investigator for military recruiting I've seen first-hand the consequences of these kids relying on computer keyboards and tablets for literally everything. One EMP and we're gonna have a kazillion kids sitting in a stupor because they won't know what to do or how to communicate.
The era of elegant dressing, sadly missed..
..more so..I appreciated the way she carried her beauty in an unpretentious way..which made her even more appealing-
A stunner! May she be in peace.🙏 i read through her website and found her to be very intelligent and highly intuitve. I will follow her links. 🌿
Jane Meadows, Arlene Francis, and Jackie Frankl -- this episode is certainly a treat for the eyes. Yes, Bennett, I bet she has wanted to publish all her life!
Amazing how styles have changed over the years.
She’s always so sweet n charming just plain all around beautiful woman
Steve
Steve Allen was at his comic peak in the '60s. What a card!
When TV was worth watching. I got rid of my box thirty years ago.
I did 2 mths ago. That's why I now watch this brilliant show
What a classy lady and a woman ahead of her time
It was a different time. Almost nobody called it "sexism" back then.
Seeing Steve Allen (and Jayne Meadows), practically the inventor of late-night TV, and an innovator in his field, reminds me what enjoyment I got from his type of entertainment.
One just sighs of an idyllic day gone by and likely not to be repeated
And what a sparkle in eyes of Jayne Meadows
As a rule even today we only call sexism sexism if it is sexism.
The true problem here is the degree of everyday sexism that many are still used to so that they don’t want to acknowledge it for what it is.
It was an admiration of beauty and a compliment to someone being well put together and poised, not a crude "get her in bed" attitude.
I'll take 2 !! She's beautiful and seems a very pleasant person.
Jane Meadows was a beautiful woman as well
Growing up she was one of my favorites....thought she was lovely.
Indeed she was, smoking ruined her looks though over time. You can even see some of the effects in this video
@EL GRECO 777 no that was her sister Audrey Meadow's.
@@mike856ms ... who almost didn't get the gig, because she was too pretty!
I clicked on the video because I thought she was Elizabeth Montgomery in the thumbnail.
Beautiful
Women were different so classy
She should be a model
Actually he said in the end that she was formerly a model
I had forgotten how beautiful Jayne Meadows was, really stunning in her youth. She's still living too.
Update: Died 2015.
So beautiful, elegant, and brilliant - a rare combination indeed.
It's so funny because as wholesome as this show was, the audience sure did catcall the pretty girls. LOL
It wasn't considered a gross insult to a woman then, unless it got obscene, such as on a street by some unruly jerks who should have kept their mouths shut. Just saying how nice you look to an attractive woman (or man from a woman) today is enough, but gets the essential point across without being impolite.
If you watch the earlier shows they didn't and around late 50's they started doing it.
@@freeguy77 good point.
Yes, she is/was very pretty but if you live in the South you see beautiful women like that everyday, especially in any Southern college. Most of them have no idea how beautiful they are.
Women spend millions to look like Jackie Frankel, Men spend millions to marry a woman like Jackie Frankel, beautiful, charming, beautiful, stunning, elegant, even her handwriting can be admired, all round perfection, the world lost something when Jackie went back upstairs, what a loss.
Totally agree. Her inner beauty is expressed through her beautiful handwriting ; it oozes Elegance.
Feminism took elegance and grace out of women.
She’s got such a gorgeous smile 😍
Steve stayed classy...John is alway classy...girl was beautiful
Jayne Meadows was also beautiful. That may have helped Steve stay classy.
@@HariSeldon913 She also had a marvelous sense of humor; wasn't naïve about her man (men are men everywhere) but at the same time didn't feel threatened at all by beautiful women who I'm sure flocked around Steve Allen on a regular basis -- because she was confident, comfortable in her own skin, and I can vouch for the fact that Steve and Jayne were madly in love all their married life.
Steve Allen was an amazingly classy and brilliant person--comedian, host, musician, composer. His Sunday evening show with its regular cast was one of my all time favorites.
You see these panel celebs and imagine they live such glam perfect lives, especially Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene , I started watching WML a few months back, and really love the show. Was recently shocked n saddened to find Dorothy passed in such heartbreaking, questionable circumstances. God be with her family. 🙏🏻💜💔
She isn’t pretty...she’s beautiful!
Sorry to hear of her passing beautiful classy lady