LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover, 11/29/63. 1:40P.
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2012
- Warren Commission: President Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover.
Citation no. K6311.04
PNO 15
November 29, 1963.
Time 1:40P
Speakers: President Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover
Topics: Commission To Investigate JFK Assassination; Report On FBI Investigation Of Assassination; Recommendation For Bullet-proof Car For LBJ
More info on the telephone conversations: www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/...
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You know Allen Dulles sounds like an excellent choice to me. Why not have the guy that JFK fired or forced to resign head up the investigation on his assassination. I am sure that Dulles would want to catch the person or persons responsible for this. We have been good friends a long time. I would love to use your report J Edgar. I know you love JFK and Bobby Kennedy as much as I do. Therefore, your report is bias free and we already have the bad guy. Hey it is good that we understand investigations and commissions. We may have to do this again in the future. Mark your calendar (June 6, 1968.)
Tremendous point. No one remembers this.
Amazing how unemotional they were in discussing what happened to President Kennedy just a week prior to this conversation. More concerned about getting the story straight, creating a friendly team for the investigation, and worrying about their own safety.... Speaks volumes.....
You have to be professional at this. You can’t bring emotions into it at all because irrational actions could happen. The time to show your emotions and sympathy is after your hours of operation.
Funny how neither johnson nor hoover publicly condemned the Warren report citing the magic bullet theory. Here privately, hoover tells the world there were at least 3. The 1st and 3rd hitting kennedy. The latter blowing the back of his head out. So why are the autopsy photos included in the Warren report showing an intact skull?
What do they call 2 of the plotters setting up a phone call conversation that they know is being recorded, talking as innocently as possible to cover their own tracks = GUILTY as sin!
Spot on comment. Why should LBJ consult Hoover on the setting up of the inquiry.
You make excellent points, three in fact. Hoover loathed JKF. I'm old now, soon there won't be anyone alive who remembers.
It’s so amazing that J Edgar Hoover did everything to keep the truth from getting out and along with Johnson’s help of course.
Boy Howdy.............
Wake up !
The Warren Commission was a misdirection. The fact that LBJ continued to use the car JFK was shot in says everything. Extremely disrespectful.
🧐😂😂😂😂
All it proves was that LBJ was a cheap bastard.
What ?????????????
True one girl
It wasn't up to LBJ. The Congress appropriates money for presidential vehicles. You guys have to remember that 55 years ago, it wasn't like it is today. Congress actually CARED about saving the taxpayers money. It wasn't unusual for presidents to use cars for 10 years. Unlike today were we spend over a million every 4 years on new limousines, back then, presidents had to make due with upgrades on the existing ones. Also, back then, Cadillac and Lincoln used to lease the cars to the government because it was considered an honor to be chosen as the manufacturer of the presidential limousine. In reality, LBJ HATED riding in Kennedy's car.
As soon as they named Dulles, you know their in on it.
Hoover mentions 3 bullets here. 3 separate bullets hitting Kennedy and Connolly. This was before they discovered the Teague bullet. Then they had to change their story...and the Magic bullet was born.
What, they didnt know the phones are tapped!?
Please.
Funny how this conversation is crystal clear...no editing out or static, the conversation between LBJ and Dulles is sketchy with static plus editing.
20+ minutes of American history gold !!!! AMAZING we get to finally hear it
“Black Brothers”
That’s fucked up
I don't understand how Governor Conley kept the 2nd bullet from hitting JFK if the shots came from behind the President.
HIs own words confirm shots from the front and no Magic Bullet..
Nixon - LBJ - George Bush..
All in Dallas..
But Nixon didn't want JFK dead,Nixon wasn't willing to kill him but he knew the CIA and Texan Oil barons who did it!and Bush was there but back then he was just a medium level officer.
@@hashimawan2433 There is a conversation or something on RUclips between Lbj and Nixon. Nixon says the difference between you and me is that I am not prepared to kill the president. You are.
That was scary.
Yeah of course he didn't want a federal investigation.
Gettin' their stories straight.... "Ok, this is how it happened.... got it?"
AMAZING what and how much Hoover knew within a few days.
They were briefing each other as to what the story would be.
@@INYB Convincing each other, making sure they were singing from the same page.➡️🙄🙄
Young People Need to Wake Up...........................
@ 9:16 "Were they aiming at the President? They were aiming directly at the President, there's no question." They? Well folks there you have it.
Yes-Connally's first words during the shooting were" My God they are going to kill us all."
Right
Plus how does Governor Connally turning prevent JFK from being hit 3 times. ;)
You're right. Two criminals trying to handle the coverup.
They, the same word used by Mrs. Kennedy when she was asked to change her dress. She responded:"... I want people to see what they did to my husband."
Michael DiVito i thought the same. I mean, here is Hoover explaining the ‘lone gunman’ theory & LBJ refers to ‘they’ and ‘them’. Strange.
I never heard of a shells dropping from a riffle onto a floor and all three dropping side by side in a straight line all pointing the same way....
Or how about MAC Wallace's(LBJs hitman) finger print in the birds nest ,confirmed by top expert at the time...dismissed 18 months later!! Disgusting!! So much.. so so much Jack rubby worked for Capone... saying no mob links !! Wtf...
They were actually "found" on the window sill..
@@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary bottom line is shells would not have laid like that after being fired
Wow Hoovers explanation of how the JFK assassination is remarkable almost incredible.
Working out whom would play ball.
well, at least hoover was truthful about why polygraphs are used
There's nothing more dangerous than a person spouting false "facts".
thats what theyre both doing lol
fast forwared 2 years from when you said this. how true you are
Hoover is full of it.they did it
Everybody KNOWS what happened.
The irony is so thick. LBJ listening as if he knew nothing about what happened that day.
yeah i think its pretty clear that they were making this tape as a cover....both acting...sometimes not very well either
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Then why would L.B.J. bother recording this? This is so stupid.
5th floor? Thought the magic bullet hit Connelly and JFK. What about the curb that was hit and wounded guy on cheek?
Was paid $6500? DPD was inept letting Ruby around.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Almost comical sounding.
I've been following this case for years fascinating this throws out Ruby killing Oswald because he felt sorry for Jackie he wasn't that type of person.
this call sounds staged for the record
Amazing... interesting, thank you 4 posting
George H . just happened to be in Dallas that day, he was staying at the Sheraton, J. Edgar has the Memo
These two are evil.
They seem very cold no emotion at all both lbj and Hoover very curious to me
Evil
neither sound like towering intellects ...
Seven days after JFK’s assassination.
To think Hoover was a cross dresser .
At 3:23 Talking about Mexico-Mark Lane was at a JFK Assassination conference and David Atlee Phillips of the CIA was asked by a student about Oswald being in Mexico City. Phillips said Oswald was never in Mexico. The CIA said they had photos of Oswald, they had a tape recording of Oswald. The man in the photos was clearly not Oswald and it was said that the voice on the tape wasn't Oswald either. Whether there was a conspiracy or not, it looks like the CIA tried to make Oswald look guilty. Mike Pardue
A frame up from the beginning.
Hoover lying out his teeth. LBJ either pretending to be ignorant about the event or clueless about it.
Unfortunately I doubt any of them were clueless
Shots were fired from 6th floor not 5th. @10:09 Connelly was seated in front of JFK. How was Connelly in the way if shots were from behind limo?
Good question
Because the bullet went through jfk to reach him
They also forgot about the bystander hit by one of the shots.
@@nigelliam153 False
insane to hear this
LBJ: "They were aiming at the President?"
Hoover: "They were aiming at the President."
Don't tell me that's a figure of speech when they were so hell-bent on pinning this on a single gunman.
They both knew there was, at last, a second shooter, and they were both unwittingly betrayed by their conscience at that very moment.
First time hearing this, in full. Never knew LBJ had asked if he was shot at by the shooter.
Hoover calls Ruby's lawyer a "scheister". 5:58
Lol
"shyster" lawyer you big dummy
I wouldnt send a man to the chair based on a lie detector test... thank god
Asking whether the shots were aimed at the president seems very strange.
Belfastish- Why? Maybe Johnson was trying to ascertain if the assassin was aiming to take out the whole top level of government
Centrist Philosopher People are so totally convinced of the existence of a conspiracy to kill JFK that they read into things.
@@Adam-bq2vw Hoover said it was 3 shots in 3 seconds...no way with that rifle.
@@JS-pk2wh Yeah virtually everything Hoover says is wrong...like The Warren Report.
Perhaps because Oswald was rumored to be very upset with John Connally not John Kennedy.
Sounds like Johnson was kissing butt to me. Wanting to know if he was next.
How did Conley get in the way when he was in the front seat that means the shot would had to come from the front.
Danny Cole, if you look at published bullistic's reports from the assassination, you will discover that the bullets fired from the rifle which was found in the book depository had the very strong capability to travel through a human body and still carry enough force to injure or kill another individual. It was one of more extremely powerful shotguns available in that era.
The report also proves, conclusively, that the three bullets fired from Oswald's rifle originated from a point behind and to the right of Kennedy's limousine, several hundred yards away.
As stated by Hoover in this recording, Connally was hit only because he turned in reaction to the firing of the first bullet, which entered the left side of Kennedy's back, then stopped in or around his heart. It fell loose on the operating table as the surgeon was massaging his heart some forty minutes later. Kennedy then was hit by the second bullet, which entered the back of his neck, causing him to reach up and grab his throat, which suggests that, although the first bullet landed near his heart, he was still alive after the shot. That second bullet then passed through his throat and hit Connally. The third bullet, of course, was the one that shattered Kennedy's skull.
Had Connally not reacted to the firing of the first shot, the second bullet that hit him would have perhaps grazed his left shoulder and probably wound up lodged in the dash somewhere near the driver.
As a proponent of the one gun, one man theory, this is what I always believed to be true. Although there certainly is some merit to multiple shooter theory, the evidence, or lack thereof, is simply insufficient to impress me otherwise.
However, in the final analysis, knowing what we now know regarding the secrecy and suspect nature of our American government, we may all go to our graves without benefit of the real truth of this historic tragedy.
@@phillipramsey3601 I think his siting position was lower and to the left of Kennedy. He was not sitting right in front of him as the proponents of the magic bullet hypothesis suggest. The question is where did the third shot come from. I don't think anyone will figure this one out for sure.
The smoke screen that was the Warren Commission
I guess Jack Ruby did it alone too huh? Wow? Two lone nuts!
Ruby was seen with Oswald way before 11/ 22, in his strip club.
Oswald was the only member of the Fair Play for Cuba. It was a ruse maybe set up by one of our intelegence service.
H had all the details on J...J was afraid of H....
LBJ made Hoover FBI Director for life. Hoover knew everything MLK, Jr. said and did every day for 10 years, except the day he was murdered? LBJ :"Any of those fired at me?" Fifth floor? Oswald shot Tippit with his revolver and then opened it up and dumped the shells at the scene?
You're wrong dude. It was NIXON who made Hoover director for life.
Was anybody shooting at me ? LOL... When Hoover said Connally, by turning blocked the 2nd shot I thought I heard wrong, so I backed up to listen again, And Yea that's what he said ... and this was Nov. 1963 ? I guess after Ruby shot Oswald they could say what ever they wanted .
Hoover says 5th floor but they say the 6th floor???
Johnson asked if any of them try to shoot at him, I ask how come Johnson ducked right after the car turn onto Elm....
J Hoover made up the story
LBJ, too.
I wonder why this audio wasn't released to the pubic back then? ;)
I don't wonder. Just listen to the details of what they're saying. Hoover said that John Connolly blocked a shot that would have certainly hit JFK had Connolly not turned. Think about where they were sitting and then consider that remark.
@@melvingeloneck3344 Good point
@@melvingeloneck3344 exactly if the shots came from behind the president
One of them sounds like a gangster... I don't even have to name which one... It's so obvious.
Watch explained alot come foward connect the dots!! What family's....
But if it’s just a lone nut why all this horse dung going around and around worrying about people investigating it, what were they hiding and trying to control ? Hummmm.
exactly if Oswald was lone nut what does the CIA have to hide back then much less after 60 years? obviously the CIA has major shit to hide....
Oswald was definitely involved and there were more players involved, he was the one that took the fall. Ruby did what he was told and he "died" a few years later in jail.
I love Johnson looking for his armoured car!! I want one now
Who recorded this?
LBJ
The phone call with LBJ and Jackie on December 2nd he told Jackie he wanted to be the daddy of Jr and Carolyn
Eww wow
Why are not releasing all the papers till date ??
Even if they made them public, the whole thing wouldn’t be true....
CIA
Was J Edgar referring to Jack Ruby at 6:30 in the video?
Yes, Ruby's real name was Rubinstein.
If conelly had not turned? Would have hit Kenndy ?What diffrence if shot came from the rear. Would if it came from the front.
mike crady huh?
Yes, the shot that killed JFK had to come from somewhere in front of the the limousine and slightly to the right of the limousine. The doctor who first examined JFK's head at Parkland Hospital confirmed that the kill shot entered the front of JFK's head and exited the back of JFK's head.
LBJ - any shots fired at me ? Lol , can tell he knows there were no shots fired at him. Covering his tracks there. 👣
NO audio !
Thanks for posting this, very enlightening. If only Oliver Stone had listened to this conversation he would never have made that film.
Yet they know its being taped....
Lol they did know it was recorded and taped because Nixon had done that when Eisenhower was the pres....all you really have to investigate is where the shot that hit his head came from and if you study physics and momentum you know he was shot in the front, not the back and over a hundred people are seen running towards the shooter from the knoll. Those people were there, why would they run that way and all report they heard a shot and saw someone running with a rifle. Lol I’m not a conspiracy theorists but it’s common sense that someone shot him from the front. And that contradicts the Warren Commission’s report.
@@techniquetv5718 Huh? What makes you say that? Connolly was sitting IN FRONT of JFK. The building was BEHIND them. How on earth could Connolly have moved and thus blocked a shot that was intended for JFK if the shots came from BEHIND them? And how does this tape make it look like the Warren Commission was right and Oliver Stone was wrong?
@@techniquetv5718 - Yes, the shot that killed JFK had to come from somewhere in front of the the limousine and slightly to the right of the limousine. The doctor who first examined JFK's head at Parkland Hospital confirmed that the kill shot entered the front of JFK's head and exited the back of JFK's head.
Good man
They could very well be discussing the coverup.
LBJ - no comment WHATSOEVER...
Why can't you HEAR what happened watching Soon Du Ja shooting Latasha Harlins in the back on a video at a liquor store?
The bus driver recognized him, as what the shooter? but the cop didn't just saw a random guy to bother and the amount of shots fired what was it 3 or 4?
On
Hoover hated dulles
odd choice to have Dulles on the commission since JFK had just fired him a few months before
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Not months a year and a half!
Friends for 25-30years...... Would you rather ur friend as the president or a man who thinks you shouldn’t hv ur own gov funded organization as President?????
Oswald ACLU member NYC.
Johnson, Nixon.....what a shame!
Hoover's summary is very complete and accurate.
No it isn't!
He kept saying "Fifth Floor". That's (supposedly) inaccurate.
Hoover said that John Connolly turned and thus got hit with a shot that would have definitely struck JFK. If you think that's an accurate part of his report, then you don't know where the two men were sitting in relation to each other. You also don't know where the limousine was in relation to the Texas Schoolbook Depository building. John Connolly was sitting in front of JFK. The Texas Schoolbook Depository was behind them. So how on earth could John Connolly have possibly turned and blocked a shot that would have hit JFK if that shot came from the Texas Schoolbook Depository?
@Bobby Caldwell I agree 100%!! The conversation makes no sense!
True.
Everyone of them, Warren Commission, were in in the complot, except E.Warren.
Motion picture people = Disney?
To say Johnson is the vice president he doesn't no much about the president. Bull both would no some one would be able to lisen to them both should have been on stage
WERE THEY AIMING AT THE PRESIDENT? YES! THEY WERE AIMING AT THE PRESIDENT. ...THEY?
@gerry findon - Yes, the shot that killed JFK had to come from somewhere in front of the the limousine and slightly to the right of the limousine. The doctor who first examined JFK's head at Parkland Hospital confirmed that the kill shot entered the front of JFK's head and exited the back of JFK's head.
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Hoover is so straightforward and reasonable
Conspiracy theorists never disappoint
If you only knew the name conspiracy theorist was born precisely after this. It was a term made by the FBI to discredit anyone who questioned the official version or got close to the truth.