I... Did Not Like That. | One Piece Ep 341+342 Reaction & Review | Thriller Bark Arc
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Ussop saying that the invisible man thing didn't happen isn't him gaslighting nami but rather him trying to gaslight himself because he'd rather believe nothing here is happening than to accept zombies, ghosts and invisible men are real
Well, somehow makes sence, since this arc nothing happens. Is kinda famous for that
Ussop and Zoro truly shine the most in this arc
"theres 40 episodes of this?" aah i remember when 40 seemed like a lot of episodes for an arc
40 episodes and nothing happens, what a let down.
@@bcool9272 Hey. Let's be fair. I think most would say it's unforgettable... how nothing happens in this arc.
lol
@@bcool9272nope. keep it simple. leave out the "What a let down" thats just misleading.
@@lapanthanimnerdy dont read the comme.ts here lanyway luckily
Luffy pushing the Zombie into the ground makes me laugh every. single time. I honestly don't know how often I've seen it, but it's brilliant.
It's not joke one of the funniest visual gags I've ever seen. Oda should have an award for that bit.
It's SO funny. Probably the funniest visual gag in the series so far. I also love Luffy just thinking that they're all decrepit old men.
The Arc's best scene, 1 episode after its worst scene
After watching I will say that the problems you have with that scene are pretty specific to the anime. Toei animated features of Nami which were not present in Oda's artwork, and they dwelled on the scene much longer than the manga panels do. I still wouldn't call it tasteful, but Oda's personal handling of this scene is much less blatant and offputting than the scene in the anime.
Oda wanted to present an awful villain who abuses a very strong devil fruit, as well as play homage to one of the most famous horror shots in cinema. He certainly made someone so unlikable that everyone cheered about his death and his only cameo before that was the fact he was invisible and was taking Pictures of Shirahoshi during the Reverie.
I mean, not lingering on it doesn't mean it wasn't a thing.
Things are just more graphic when animated, that's just how it is.
The same goes for blood and gore. It should have been changed completely but people would cry about censorship that way probably
And it's not the only time Toei pushes moments where Oda restrained himself...
@@Shiftarus Lingering on it does make it worse. It isn’t wrong to portray something like this in a fictional story. The discussion is about how it is being portrayed. The lingering I was referring to is lingering on the overstated images of Nami, which doesn’t happen in the manga panels, since the images weren’t overstated there to begin with. Oda drew Nami completely covered by the towel.
@@Shiftarusnah that’s not really how that works. Oda definitely could’ve made it more graphic in the manga if he wanted it to be more graphic. Read berserk and you’ll see that manga can be just as if not more graphic than anime. It was simply Toei doing what Toei always does
Everyone hates the invisible man, and not in a fun way. You aren't alone, and I really appreciate you voicing your dislike in these moments. Your objections and your joy in the show is why I subscribed and continue to watch your reactions!
Fun trivia for the live action adaptation - in one of the newspapers, you can just about see an obituary for Victoria Cindry.
I missed that, which part?
Luffy and the Zombie is maybe the funniest moment in the entire show This entire arc is peak comedy
That bath scene is LOATHED by the community, and is specially agregious in the anime compared to the manga so you are not alone in the feeling, that aside the visual gag of luffy pushing the zombie on the ground is not only one of the best visual comedy in the series but also one of it's most famous manga panels on level with the dance with the wolves in skypea
It's not a big deal. What community lmao?
@furicuri3 Most people. Its gross man. You're weird if you don't agree, its assault bro.
@@furicuri3People that aren't you, it would seem. Join the community
sanji is my worst character in all of one piece for the way he acts. With Spandam and other bad people people hate them and thats good. But with sanji some people love him and laugh at the pervy things he does and thats bad. Sexual assault , peaking at naked women, his women dreams should never be accepted.
personal opinion, the show would be better without all that garbage. Just remove his sexual assault side and he would be a great character
It's based off of a book called Castle of Otranto and IS supposed to be uncomfortable. (Fun fact, the wife of the creep trying to kidnap and marry another woman in that book is named Hippolita and Lola is a hippo!)
The way the Luffy group interacts so totaly different with the island is one of the most fun parts of the arc for me
I wish I can be as fearlesss by default as that group.
One thing you should know about Oda is that he is a huge fan of The Rocky horror picture show movie. It explains some of the stylistic choices, like hogback for instance.
Hogback is also directly inspired by the titular character from "The Island of Dr. Moreau."
That's true I forgot about that.@@Ozgarthefighter
@@Ozgarthefighter I think his look is also inspired by the Pengiun from Batman.
@vigo2669 That as well.
@@2gjones1 I only know of ot because I had the misfortune of watching the awful 1996 movie. 😆
Yup. Hate that moment too. Along with one more moment in this arc. But other than that, nothing happened.
haha nice
Usopp wasn’t gaslighting Nami, he’s a nervous Nellie, he’s afraid of everything even the truth if it’s frightening. He doesn’t want to admit that there was a invisible man inside the bathroom because that would be terrifying. So he’s denying it ever happened
Yeah he is trying to gaslight himself
Usopp gaslighting himself (and the world) is like is whole thing, haha.
I mean, he outright says why he's terrified, and it's not the invisible man; he doesn't want to owe Nami for the peek, hahaha.
I agree with your statements regarding the comedic scenes in this arc. It's definitely well thought out. Luffy pushing a Zombie back into a grave is one of the funniest things I have seen.
You are not alone, most of the community hates that moment.
Don't bundle up all of us into your weird western community thinking whole world is in it
That isnt true. Most of us see it as just a scene.
The invisible man is a bad guy.
@@bubbadumps3747 I don't know how you get "most" either way, it's not like there is a poll to point to or anything.
Saying "is a bad guy" especially when you know what happens later is a cop out.
@@bubbadumps3747 the scene itself is not the problem, but how everything was handled. Usopp's thanks, Nami's debt, etc. It's a very serious issue, and OP can be really serious when it's needed. This was awful and bad done.
@FerPaduan you fail to understand the concept of your internal values not being reflective of a creative work made by someone who isnt you, who doesnt speak your language, and whos values they likely do not share with you. Its harmless humor, regardless of what hyper progressive english speakers think.
"Weird Choices" are real issues for people in our world and theirs... it is creepy but it exists... we just witnessed a genocide in the last arc...
You need to remember: the villains are pirates. Oda knows how to make you hate certain characters, however a lot of times it's because of editors that certain stuff is exagerated... Toei does that too.
Luffy shoving the zombie back into the ground is probably the funniest moment in all of One Piece.
To be fair the bath scene isn’t nearly as bad in the manga unfortunately it would seem the animation team just used the situation as an excuse to show some extra skin without caring about the context.
Well, to be fair things are more graphic when animated. Magical steam bubbles and the like do not animated well.
The tone does not really change. You are right its worse but to use that as an excuse for Oda just feels wrong.
I spend a lot of energy appreciating and glazing Oda but he's not Jesus he's a guy and it's okay to not like some of his choices.
You can hate this scene and love One Piece.
I don't see what's so worse in the anime than the manga.
Chapter 446 for reference.
I guess the bathroom scene was uncomfortable, but it all evens out with how Luffy deals with a zombie apocalypse.
This is the episode I've been worried about since you started ep 1
We have some Sanji stuff coming
The point of that scene was to callback the horror shower scene from the early black and white movies. Thats all, a lot of people overthinking it.
People aren’t confused about what the scene is calling back to, they just find it jarring, distasteful, and poorly thought out. Playing a situation like that for raunchy comedy, and with a teenager no less, is just gross.
@corynydam2361 nami is of age, but that's besides the point i guess. No, a lot of people actually don't realize the callback. This arc is just horror trope after horror trope. And SA is actually a common horror trope. Not saying it's a great scene or anything, but the hate on this scene is a bit much
I wouldn’t recommend you to look how many episodes does an arc have, you might miss on good fake outs if you are already aware there are more episodes ahead .
I understand not being fan of "perviness in comedy or fanservice" like you explained, or in this instance directly portraying a creepy voyeur as such, but you do exaggerate and make it worse sometimes, because of your discomfort and some projection. Sometimes. Look at the "Usopp gaslighting scene". Is it really Usopp "talking down to a woman"? Or just regular Usopp gaslighting ANYONE that would claim the invisible man's existence, or rather himself ? He would as a scaredy cat that refuses and denies reality, like he's done before.
You as well as many others miss the literary point of the SA scene. You are MEANT to loathe it so you despise that character and are happy with what happens to him much later. Enies Lobby is the start of a major change in OP. Expect increasingly dark topics.
The theme of monsters is so interesting, because we start off with the concept of fiction but it becomes much scarier than any of that; the scariest monsters are men and their horrors. Depression, assault, everything inbetween. Those are real horrors.
I can see why you and many others dont like the scene in question. But for me, it doesn't really bother me as much. Mostly because I've read a lot worse than this. Like in the "league of extraordinary gentlemen", the invisible man in that comic does a LOT worse stuff than this one. I wont say what he does but he does get a proper karmic end.
Luffy putting the zombie back to the grave and the zombie talking back he dont wanna be there is the funniest scene ever. This arc is so hilarious
Trust, when you feel awkward, you are supposed to. There are serious topics in this show for teens and up. This isn’t a children’s show.
The readership of Shonen Jump is around 8 to 25 years old. Shonen Jump places great importance on reader surveys, and incorporating erotica and comedy in order to please young boys is an old method. Don't take it seriously.
I’m so happy that that wasn’t spoiled for you because that’s one of the most memed one piece moments
Luffy and the zombie is a legendary moment, and it sets up a great joke in the next episode too.
The Luffy zombie joke is my absolute favorite. I still laugh at it
Chopper saying "What's keeping you Nami" in the first episode kills me every time
This is one of the most egregious scenes in the series. It's really weird that the invisible man's behaviour is clearly presented in the text as repulsive. We're meant to hate him, and feel for Nami. However, the anime direction chose to linger over her body and make it super sexual which invites the audience to be implicit in her assault. Morals aside, it's just not smart storytelling in the anime. These moments come across so differently in the manga because it's just a panel and your eyes move on quickly. I don't remember feeling icky as a reader in that chapter.
You have passed the scene we all hate and now we can all move on.
unfortunately there’s another one..
@ I don’t think I remember what in particular….my mind has suppressed it as a trauma response probably.
@ yeah probably..
@zoonfu You do realize most of your buddies and people you listen will do FAR worse than sanji says he would do with the devil fruit.
@ I don’t know who your friends are but that’s wild. Maybe get better friends.
I think he was going for a ‘Psycho’ reference.
Also, you know, the world government's doing experiments on devil fruits. That's how a sword could eat the elephant fruit in ennies lobby
yeah koby mentioned it at the end of water 7 :P
These episodes came out in February 2008. Just FYI. Doesn't make that "scene" in 341 any better, but that's when they came out.
2:46 i remember the Invisible Man Stories of old involing "A mysterious Ghost" harrassing the Girls Dormatory
Hey Nerdy! Lewd "humor" aside -- and yes, the whole bath scene/invisible man shtick is an acknowledged misstep to say the least -- I'm excited to see how the arc hits you as it unfolds. While it's true that we're getting padded episodes since the animation series was near the current release of the source material, I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised at what twists the 40 episodes of Thriller Bark have in store.
...even though I ultimately agree with many fans that nothing happens.
Luffy pushing the zombie back is one of my favorite jokes as well. This is one of my favorite one piece arcs. Not just because of the humor, but also because of the aesthetic.
18:15 That is one of the greatest gaffes of all time.
Literally my favorite joke of the whole show hahaha
@@moneecahmine too
I dont know a single person defending this scene, toei really did this scene very dirty and it is one of the early hints that the studio is not treating the source material with respect.
We all love one piece but not for what toei did with it. It is just the only adaptation we have so far.
I hope the remake will not do this bulls*hit
Quit talking out of your butt. Toei didn't change the scene from the manga like you are implying, nor is it any less explicit in the manga.
Seriously, people just need to quit pretending to be so offended at this.
@teck1756 well I am not pretending. I still love one piece but I just hate the way this scene was portrayed that my opinion and it always was.
@@JesseblueXai And it's perfectly fine to have that opinion. It's not one I share, but it's silly for me to demand everyone likes every bit. I just hate that people try to find any excuse to hate on it, and have seen countless comments claiming (similarly to yours) that "Toei animated it more explicitly than the manga" without a single thing to back that up. It's like people are jumping on the hate bandwagon and they just saw other people complain about it.
I've always liked the scene, I don't see anything wrong with it, I get and appreciate the joke.
In an arc where nothing happened, Luffy pushing the zombie back down into the grave still stands as the funniest moment in the series to me. The combo of how absurd it is to push a zombie back into the ground and the complete deadpan serious face Luffy has the whole time hit my sense of humor so perfectly.
Also it is amazing what 18 years of perspective does to how you look at certain scenes. Sexual assault scenes were regularly played for comedy to the point where the moment with Nami seemed almost normalized. In an otherwise amazing story, the overt sexualization of women in this series never gets any better and stands as really one of the few black marks in it.
I love the contrast of how the two different groups handle the island.
13:06 all the paintings are equal but some are more equal than others
I would describe Thriller Bark as the arc of One Piece's highest highs and lowest lows. When it's clicking it is absolutely amazing, and then the invisible man comes back on screen and you question everything again IMO. So I'd just keep that in mind while watching, is that while it can get rough at times it is worth it for the end.
Usopp was trying to convince himself into thinking the invisible man didn't happen. As for pervy comedy, it's a Japanese anime thing alongside the fan service. I don't like it. Most people don't. Unfortunately, it's something that you need to go through. This arc is worth ignoring these moments because it does go somewhere awesome, and the low moments are left alone and redeemed in later arcs.
I don't think anyone ever tried to justify the invisible man, he is one of the most unpopular characters ever.
3:30 I get it, but this show tackles basically all the crap the world that WE as an audiance live in. Slavery, racism, corruption, hunger, hate, etc. Creepy dudes and predators are both craps that we also need to endure and fight, thats the whole point.
11:40 maybe you wont like as the show gets deeper, it depicts some truths that arent pleasant to everyone. Without some filters nowadays spectators require.
The problem here is that the show passes it as a joke. A joke that also usopp makes
@@josephjoestar4633what joke
Does ussop make ?
@@josephjoestar4633oh ya absolutely, Death, torture, mental illness, hunger, and slavery aren't used in jokes in this series! ... Wait a second YES THEY ARE anD I'm sick if you delusional people in denial with external motives standing up against these expressions within Oda's work because you feel so good doing it. The anime plays it up to immature levels but tons of you people make fools of yourselves in statements about this stuff. The manga just recently made fun of someone having brain damage, and your shitty opinions obviously go ignored in this series because an even worse pervert comes around asking for an ass kicking worse than Absolam later in the series.
@ the problem here is demagogy by denying reality. Putting under the rug by not showing is worse. Obviously the author dont think of this issue as a joke like you are trying to portrait.
21:54 mimicking DF powers? That's some futuristic science stuff, I can't see that happening in this series.
The end of this arc introduces a character that caused me to start the anime with Thriller Bark. (I didn't know I would have to wait until the end of the arc though) I just saw the character in a "size of one piece characters" in a youtube vid and his look fascinated me completely.
Paw...........
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪♥️ Thriller Bark is really great ❤
Luffy putting the zombie back in the grave is one of the most funniest scenes i ever saw in this show xD
Is it, or are you another parrot?(I think it's funny though)
Nah, this zombie scene is indeed one of my personal most favourite scenes :D
You’re not meant to like that moment. The purpose of the moment is for you to be viscerally repulsed by the character. Not all pirates have honor like our crew…well…most of our crew.
You're misunderstanding what he's saying. There's a difference between being displeased with a character's actions and the depiction of it. The topic is something that can be brought up, sure, but the scene isn't taken a seriously as it should've, so it can be seem disrespectufl and tonally offputting.
@crow-the-cryptid I’m not misunderstanding. I blatantly commented before watching the episode and the reaction, knowing which moment it is in the episode. I didn’t criticize Nerdy’s viewpoint because I hadn’t taken the time to hear and to digest it. This is a RUclips comment section. I’m just throwing a thought into the aether, not trying to solve the problems of the depiction of sexually charged violence in media.
Completely understandable that you felt that way about the bath scene. It made Absalom go straight to my top 3 hated characters.
Agreed the scene didn’t feel necessary at all. There are plenty other of ways to show that an invisible person is hated and creepy. It was certainly off putting to me when I saw it too
This arc has some of the best comedy bits in the series. At least for me
Scooby Doo is exact. Nami definitely put on Daphne's clothes, Sanji is Fred, Ussop and Chopper is Shaggy and Scooby. Maybe even to in Robin as Velma, And the bathroom scene is classical gratuitous sex scene in horror films especially around and "invisible man or hollow man" but I wonder if you can figure out the mystery. Because that's not Brook!
This bath scene is probably the one thing Usopp will never tell Kaya
If there is something that helps me to get through this arc, is thinking that they are making the problematic scenes with the vilains, and not cobra, luffy, etc in alabasta, it makes them more creepy than they already are
That shower scene is downright weird as the spying on his own daughter in the bath of cobra in alabasta. Don't get me wrong that doesn't mean I don't absolutely adore One Piece as a whole. There are just some scenes like the Nami Shower scene, that just don't sit right with me. You have to do such sensitive themes right and don't play them down.
That aside I really love Thriller Bark, the whole horror theme and how different the characters react to it. Truth be told nothing happened here, that aside it's a funny arc 👻💀🧟
Subbed just because he started singing "Thriller".
We all have problems with the anime shower assault scene, the fandom agrees with you.
Both things are true. It is a gross scene and you are overly sensitive.
the invisible man in the bathroom attacking a woman is an old bad horror movie trope, it wasn't making a point, it was a homage to the genre. That said it is weird
Hot take, it is my humble opinion that things do in fact happen in this 40 episode arc.
Also, yeah, the invisibility stuff is definitely a low point for the show.
Yeah, that take is pretty spice. Objectively, nothing happens in this arc.
I respect your hot take, but let me assure you, for sure nothing happens
Stuff like focusing on women’s body is in anime most of the time. It’s not going To lead to thousands of sexual attacks coming out of the works. People who see anime know this.
I agree with you, the bath assault was meant to make the viewer hate the invisible man but it was not handled with tact with all the comedy surrounding it, rough scene to watch
I made a note of what episode that ill edit in later, but you said in a previous episode a long time ago basically "I love when Oda plays with horror tropes"
I do wonder how the predictions will go during this arc. It always varies from reactor to reactor. Amount, accuracy, time before explanation... Interested to see how someone like Nerdy does.
No shit it's gross, it's a reprehensible villain. And why would they stop "showing" her body after for the handful of seconds that follow when that's the situation that she's in? Where would she get clothes from so quickly? Your reaction to the first bit is spot on, your reaction to the few seconds afterward just make you a prude. Nudity has always existed in movies, and the immediate aftermath of a r*pe scene (like, when she's being rescued from it) is one of the few instances where it makes sense, unless you want to confine yourself to only watching fairytales. However, scolding Usopp for 06:34 is completely fair again. I think 11:48 is also fair.
I don't believe that there was any question about that this scene was meant to be taken as reprehensible and revolting, in spite of the jokes that Usopp is making there to cope or whatever the fuck he's doing.
I apologize for the harsh language. It didn't make me enjoy this reaction video any less, and I don't think less of you either.
there is a lot of literary reference within this arc, Dr Frankenstein obviously, but at least 2 more novel of that time. one of which informs the character behind that Nami scene .... beyond that scene at least - Merphy Napier did a deep dive about these references of this arc a year or 2 ago (though i don't remember how spoilerfree it is [from a perspective at the end of or beyond this arc])
Yeah, that moment is not good. On a related note, I recommend you watch some of the Mugiwara No Goofy arc specific videos(like "Thriller bark is hilarious") after you're further into the show, maybe get a mod or someone you trust and knows the show to pick them for you, so you don't get spoiled.
Point of fact, the word "hentai" means both "pervert" and "change/transform". And since Franky is a cyborg, he represents transformation.... and him wearing a speedo everywhere also makes him a pervert.
Thriller Bark is Scooby Doo arc for sure.
I once saw someone comment that this arc contains some of the best AND the worst of One Piece. I think that's pretty accurate. The legendary zombie being pushed back in the grave, and the incredibly awful shower scene are strong examples.
I don't disagree with you in regards to the excessive fan service stuff but I do find it funny how you never notice how the men are sexualized in the show but always immediately notice when the subject is a woman, maybe its just because there isn't as much intentional attention drawn to it. There must have been at least a dozen shots of Franky's crotch in W7, Luffy's outfit is pretty much always an open vest with his chest and abdomen exposed, Zoro is shirtless numerous times throughout the show, his chest and abdomen are exposed the entirety of Enies Lobby.
The female character fan service is definitely more common and there is more attention drawn to it but it is interesting how few people seem to notice the male character fan service, yet are always so quick to call it out when its a woman.
also not that it excuses it but your timeline is off by a few years, these episodes came out in 2008 not 2012
Westerners' reaction to nudity or pervercy in anime is always so predictable. Absolutely anything goes regardless of how horrible or violent the anime is, but one single frame of cleavage or some or an erotic moment and the westerners are instantly losing their minds.
I knew your exact reaction to this moment back when you've just started one piece and began complaining about Sanji.
I'd love to see your reaction to something like Bible Black or Urotsukidoji. That would me a mine field for an american to experience.
Americans and Canadians are more prude than Europeans. Yet, that moment is gross, the sexual abuse from an invisible character is just gross. The prudish comment comes with Nami showing her body, when she was in the bath and was abused, ofc she wouldn't be clothed.
These people do not react like this when its a sexual horror scene where a man is the subject of it. Further proving the double standards and hypocrisy. Westerners and their feminist sensibility bs. Anime becoming mainstream was a mistake.
Hentai is used also for "weirdo", though the subs mostly translate it as "perv". So maybe Sanji was just calling Franky a weirdo, hard to know.
you're not alone, invisible man is a massive piece of shit and everyone feels that way about him. its worth noting that Odas comments on him are pretty clear as he goes along (see you watch the other episodes so not worried about commenting this) but he is also heavily assaulted and the irony of him not being ok with it while doing the same to Nami. but you're reactions are always a highlight thanks Nerdy!!~
2nd half of video: you immediately nailed the "weak crew experience vs strong crew experience." and as ever love the commentary nerdy thank you!!!~
I think this arc is just a play on Vintage horror and many old horror movies used to have some creepiness.
When u we’re excited for zombie spooky island I was like but is he excited for pervy invisible island ?
crew combos, lets go!
I totally agree with you in this. OP can touch ab*se if it's needed, like it does with some other big and difficult issues, but not in this way. It's not funny, it's damn serious. It's not sexy comedy, and sexy comedy can be really fun, but not situations without consent like this. The later joke with Usopp made it worse and it doesn't fit Usopp's caracther at all. Then Nami and the debt... it softned the situation so much and it's a lost opportunity to treat this problem correctly and even educate the audience.
But this is THE problem with this arc. I still love this arc, it has big big big moments, not only top epic buy very funny (like that zombie and luffy scene) and really sad too. It's a great arc but with some fails and at least three big crap moments and this is one of the worst.
Unfortunately, it's not the last arc that this issues with shonen and anime will appear.
Robin grabbing Franky by the balls is hilarious though right?
I don't disagree the scene is not very well done and is definitely setting far too light of a tone for what is actually happening, but the fact so many people get upset about it after laughing at Franky being sexually assaulted in the last arc is unfortunate.
Censored “abuse” Opinion discarded.
(Usopp Vs Perona) is the best fight in all One Piece
Hahahaha. I think this is the worst scene of this kind in the whole show, so I guess you don't have to worry that much about that anymore.....I think? It's a long series
Theres like 3 worse then that just in this arc
@@Mike_unhinged what dors any of that have to do with anything?
This is kind of a weird arc ngl, also I do feel like it could be a bit shorter than it is. And coming right after W7/EL is rough. But it does have some amazing moments that make it all worth it in the end. Well for the most part worth it. Also thematically it's surprisingly important in ways that you maybe wouldn't expect. And it sets up the next saga very well
The Nami shower scene is one of the issues with this Arc, but most everything else is quite good. 👌
Holdback is wearing Tim Curry's outfit from Rock Horror
Bring people back to life sounds crazy and risky
Yeah, even when this arc came out and i watched it real-time as it was coming out like over a decade ago, nobody liked that nami being assaulted scene (except weirdos and creeps), the fanservice in one piece was always borderline too much though, it's a japanese thing in animê that we kinda relevate form being overexposed to. Other than that, it's just great, thriller bark is super funny and also nothing happens, which is awesome.
The Invisible Guy is literally the worst part of this Arc and One Piece as a whole. Like everyone hates the shit out of Spandam, I think he's still maybe the most hateable piece of garbage in One Piece and I don't ever want to say I respect him in any measure of the word, but at the very least you can see why he's an effective villain for the show, hating him is cathartic and fun. The invisible guy on the other hand is just a creep, nothing about his inclusion adds anything of merit to the show.
3:17 dont worry, nami is confident enough for the both of you.
Yes the scene was gross, thats probably the point. I'm also not a big fan of over sexualization, but I am even less off a fan of hypocricy.
Just remember that not too long ago you laughed at the non-consentual Sexual torture of a man 👍🏼
Its also always sus to me if men are overly offended at that. It almost comes off as fake. Like.. why are they trying so hard? Smells like a few skeletons are in the closet
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Men being overly offended by "sexist behavior" against women (but not men), more so than most women, just comes off as try-hard.
yeah and don't forget that his wife has an onlyfans account.
I love how people get offended by this, but *spoilers*
The entire BB crew INCLUDING Catalina wanting a turn on Bonney gets forgotten.
The invisible man is one of the nost universally hated characters
With your comments on scientific experiments, the uncomfortable parts of the series, all that should be said is: Have faith in Oda. Man has a plan.
10:55 wqs Nami getting assulted a Fart joke? definatly not. im not sure what Oda wqs going for with the shower scene. but i imagine Oda looks at this world and draws what he saw happen.
I only risk saying this because i know theres a bit of lag between what youve seen and what is on RUclips. It's pretty funny how you keep assuming that hogback is the main antagonist of the arc. I have to assume that I did too my first watch but i don't remember.
Yeah, pretty much the entire fandom hates that scene, and I personally despise the invisible man, almost more than Spandam.
While I agree the bath assault was unnecessary, I understand that Oda is making a direct reference to "Psycho," one of the most important horror films in history.
Could it have been handled better, absolutely, but understanding the jntentions of Oda lessens the ick factor slightly for me.
Also, Hogback has the visual aesthetics of Frank N Furter from "Rocky Horror" but is more directly inspired by Dr. Moreau from the novel, "The Island of Dr. Moreau" by H.G. Wells.
My teenage boy self on the other hand...