00:50 WOW nice point i use to stack bigger batteries in the PS vita and it would always blow the batter out in a year. I am actually gonna do a video about it because i saw asus ROG ally users stacking laptop buttery's in the ROGally . that will double the heat but reduce the surface for heat dissipation by almost 88% sounds like a fire at 65 watts . The ps vita was 4 to 5 watts not sure if you have seen the asus rog ally laptop battery mod?
this actually has soo much potential. people could just start making a range of "housing" for the framework! I want a rugged housing for field work. this is awesome too!
Extremely impressed by this project, amazing. I think you framed it really well at the start, and ultimately I can picture this exact project with a hinge being something people would really be into. Fantastic work.
Impressive that this is just a one-man project. This really shows the potential of DIY laptops. Im very excited to see what else you have in store for us in the future!
I saw that you docked the console from the timeline and raised an eyebrow. My jaw still dropped when you actually revealed that it was a full on USB-C hub with a GPU. I just got my AMD 7640u, less powerful but good enough for my purposes. I'm inspired by you and am dreaming up a small USB-C hub that would protrude and connect like the expansion cards (think the Ethernet card, but now you have 1"x4" card parallel to your laptop). Would still love to see your take if it is worth your time as I slowly inch towards it. Thank you for your honest reviews. Framework isn't a perfect company, but it was time for a replacement laptop and I would use it 4+ years until it falls apart anyways. It may not be the best bang for buck, but I wanted to buy at least one because of the company message and your reviews help to set level-headed expectations.
I really hope the folks at framework see this, and take some time to improve their stand alone mode for these boards. I think that giving the user the option to configure how the board behaves regardless of what battery or display is attached could really open the door to not only awesome diy projects like this, but also other creative uses for the mainboards to extend their useful life.
All you had to do was take the 16 framework and replace the keyboard with a touchscreen display...😇👍 And the QMK keyboard umpad should be made on the usb dongle... and a gamepad... How can two people play?
Now for a version 2, you could pull inspiration from what Ayaneo is doing with their latest product, the Ayaneo Slide which is currently being backed on Indiegogo. It looks like the screen can slide up to reveal the keyboard, making the overall design more compact/handheld. I think that would be a great addition to the next iteration of this project, if that's even possible, given the size of the framework mainboard...
I kinda wish I could 3D print some kind of glass fibre resin for the top cover and the input panel to get that kind of Thinkpad like feel. Would be even great if there's a way to modify the shape of the keys to feel more like a Thinkpad one too.
Nicely done! I have a GPD Win Max 2 amd really wish it had a eGPU dock that I could use for that Nintendo-Switch-like boost when playing at home. Your construction really makes me envious!
when you see the legion GO or any handheld (with x86 CPUs in them), the motherboard is so tiny compared to the framework, mind blowing, no wonder they can separate the CPU from the battery, while being so packed together !
I'd be inclined to forego the little touchpad and keyboard thing being built in and just use the original laptop screen, then you'd be able to use the battery management. I think I've also seen bare touch digitisers for sale, so you may even be able to make it into a touch screen, regardless.
I feel like for the next iteration, you can do it similar to the GPD Win Max 2 that you showed off earlier. Basically let's say it looks like a laptop. The screen is on the top portion, and the keyboard is on the bottom portion. So it looks like a laptop, but have the battery somehow behind the monitor, and have the joycons / controller attach to a rail on the keyboard portion of the laptop. Maybe? Anyways great work, and I think Framework should listen to you and get the power issue sorted in the BIOS. I recall this isn't the first time you've raised issue about the BIOS, especially in your earlier cyberdeck video, no?
Dude this is epic refine the charging solution and increase the size of the display or add 2 displays one 16:9 and one smaller at 21:9 for permanent onscreen keyboard and hardware stats during gameplay also making it thiner by changing the type of LCD to something more integrated and also changing most cables from round wire based to ribbon style would make this a lot more versatile and better looking
It's a davinci resolve power window. The room was dark so I pumped up the gain in post but I excluded the screen with a window so I didn't blow out the brightness. I should have cut the window when the screen went out.
Great build! Would love to see one without the keyboard and internal battery - when playing on those kind of consoles I’m almost always connected to the wall, and then when using in desktop mode you would probably use a better standalone inputs. Still, congrats for the effort! 🎉
Hi CJ. Have you ever though about making a rugged/passively cooled chassis for the framework? i feel that so many people would be excited to see that! I work in a lab/boat and "rugged" pcs are very very expensive and pretty bad. because the framework is repairable and the motherboard will remain the same shape for a long time, i think this would be a great system to make a rugged chassis for. I would buy one.
Now... I do think this is the least portable portable console ever; yet I wouldn't want it to be smaller. Instead, actually if we could just use the space by shrinking the bezel for bigger screen & bigger keyboard (ideally with numblock added) + touchpad... then I would buy this thing in a heartbeat.
Heh, fascinating project. On the one hand, great work putting this together, on the other it's absolutely fugly and is in desperate need of a v2 with smaller bezels, a usable keyboard and touchpad, and more. You could also save _a lot_ of internal space by using something like ADT-link's internal slim cabling, as that would save you from the nested adapters and thick wiring. And when you've got that kind of access to 3D printing gear, why not make something nicer than just a rectangular box? Please round off some edges and corners.
Still think you could've made a hinge work. Just would've had to be creative with the design of the case. Maybe two large bumps where the connectors would go.
i guess if you want performance of the legion go and size of zendeck. it aint going to be easy. maybe i should go for this. is this cheaper than buying competitors? im actually considering making m yown. im nto sure what to do first and how to get those 3d custom made pc handheld gaming cases.
@@ElevatedSystems Put cooling vents on back side of battery to allow cooling Or put a spacer so the battery has a 1 cm gap use said gap for air flow from a high flow fan it would be very loud and fat machine. also could power the frame work from usb type and bypass all the battery stuff as well
that keyboard kills it for me, more time on finding a screen and keyboard that fit better with the not so great form factor would have got me to watch the whole way through I really think if you're going to make a handheld from the framework base then the keyboard should be very usable or totally scrapped.
You don’t need to rearrange anything, the expansion bays in the bottom will work with all the framework expansion cards including the HDMI and DP ones.
I really wonder if using a bigger screen wouldn't be a way better experience. I rather use the crap Windows keyboard on a big tablet when I need than having that amount of space occupied with that keyboard when I don't need. Anyway, nice project. The nature of it is jenky but I'm a sucker for that
I couldn't find an off-the-shelf one that fit without adding several mm to the height or width of the console. There is no extra room inside the case due to the speakers and internal expansion ports. I am considering designing and having my own custom keyboard PCB fabricated for Version 2.0. If that ever happens.
I can't see this as more than a side project to do for the fun of doing something, as is it's not the most handleable handheld and if you're docking it you might as well just have a desktop, not the best handheld and not the best desktop
This design is absurd I it looks like a parody of this type of device, and not something that is easy to use. Why all of you make the same mistake of using windows for device like this :/ , you should use linux distro like: HoloISO, ChimeraOS or Bazzite, also for me device like this not useable without trackpads - so this is why only have SteamDeck.
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00:50 WOW nice point i use to stack bigger batteries in the PS vita and it would always blow the batter out in a year. I am actually gonna do a video about it because i saw asus ROG ally users stacking laptop buttery's in the ROGally . that will double the heat but reduce the surface for heat dissipation by almost 88% sounds like a fire at 65 watts . The ps vita was 4 to 5 watts not sure if you have seen the asus rog ally laptop battery mod?
@@X862go I have. I’ve done some crazy mods but I don’t mess with lithium ion batteries. I definitely wouldn’t do it in a video. Lawsuits are real.
this actually has soo much potential. people could just start making a range of "housing" for the framework! I want a rugged housing for field work. this is awesome too!
How about a rugged OLED tablet?
@@ElevatedSystems 😍 that's the dream
Yesssss
There's heaps of framework cyberdeck builds on yt
This is incredibly awesome; my jaw dropped and I threw my hands up in the air when you revealed the dock 😂
You have got an amazing workshop, and you clearly have the skills necessary to make the most of it. And I loved that surprise dock at the end.
I wasn't ready for that dock, that definitely makes the build here. Well done!
Shame about the battery issues, but really cool project regardless.
Extremely impressed by this project, amazing. I think you framed it really well at the start, and ultimately I can picture this exact project with a hinge being something people would really be into. Fantastic work.
And oh my god that dock 😂
Omg what an incredible project. The dock was a crazy twist. I love these videos and seeing your enthusiasm for your creations! Great project
Your Framework stuff is pretty awesome.
Very cool CJ, been following your updates on this so very cool to see the end result!
Impressive that this is just a one-man project. This really shows the potential of DIY laptops. Im very excited to see what else you have in store for us in the future!
This is awesome!!! Definitely one of my favorite things I've seen on your channel. Keep up the great work!!!
It's amazing how much great stuff you can do with the Framework, CJ! Please continue coming up and improving these great concepts.
I saw that you docked the console from the timeline and raised an eyebrow. My jaw still dropped when you actually revealed that it was a full on USB-C hub with a GPU.
I just got my AMD 7640u, less powerful but good enough for my purposes. I'm inspired by you and am dreaming up a small USB-C hub that would protrude and connect like the expansion cards (think the Ethernet card, but now you have 1"x4" card parallel to your laptop). Would still love to see your take if it is worth your time as I slowly inch towards it.
Thank you for your honest reviews. Framework isn't a perfect company, but it was time for a replacement laptop and I would use it 4+ years until it falls apart anyways. It may not be the best bang for buck, but I wanted to buy at least one because of the company message and your reviews help to set level-headed expectations.
I'd love to see Framework jump on the bandwagon for these custom mods/builds people are doing.
They kinda have, I found this channel from an xX_TwitteR_Xx post from Framework
@@dafoex Oh thats great! Might be seeing something first party in the future?
Brooo if you made a full screen this would be golden bro nice work
What a fantastic project! Thank you for sharing!
The station at the end was a great addition
Woah! That dock brings things to the next level!
I really hope the folks at framework see this, and take some time to improve their stand alone mode for these boards. I think that giving the user the option to configure how the board behaves regardless of what battery or display is attached could really open the door to not only awesome diy projects like this, but also other creative uses for the mainboards to extend their useful life.
Framework's firmware leaves a lot to be desired. There's also the weird USB-PD bug they have going with low-power chargers.
Your work is astonishing
Yo been waiting for your uploads dudes! thanks
Amazing work! 🎮
Damn thats great, I cant wait to see you update it to a foldable version or framework gpu bay
I see a potential framework tablet in the future
love the expansion port ejecters
Absolutely fantastic!
You are mental, I love it. Keep on keeping on. super entertaining.
All you had to do was take the 16 framework and replace the keyboard with a touchscreen display...😇👍 And the QMK keyboard
umpad should be made on the usb dongle... and a gamepad... How can two people play?
I'm using a few of those screens for a project right now for some retro game tablets with an NES theme. Finding this video was great.
This is amazing. Lets hope they can fix the charging while running issue.
Now for a version 2, you could pull inspiration from what Ayaneo is doing with their latest product, the Ayaneo Slide which is currently being backed on Indiegogo. It looks like the screen can slide up to reveal the keyboard, making the overall design more compact/handheld. I think that would be a great addition to the next iteration of this project, if that's even possible, given the size of the framework mainboard...
I kinda wish I could 3D print some kind of glass fibre resin for the top cover and the input panel to get that kind of Thinkpad like feel. Would be even great if there's a way to modify the shape of the keys to feel more like a Thinkpad one too.
Nicely done! I have a GPD Win Max 2 amd really wish it had a eGPU dock that I could use for that Nintendo-Switch-like boost when playing at home. Your construction really makes me envious!
super duper awesome project but i clicked cuz i saw those joycons, ive had them for years and love em
when you see the legion GO or any handheld (with x86 CPUs in them), the motherboard is so tiny compared to the framework, mind blowing,
no wonder they can separate the CPU from the battery, while being so packed together !
This is amazing, youve inspired me
stands and salutes, CJ ur a trooper, love ur mad build videos.
Thinking of a hinged design for portability?
Wild project 👏 👏 👏
I'd be inclined to forego the little touchpad and keyboard thing being built in and just use the original laptop screen, then you'd be able to use the battery management. I think I've also seen bare touch digitisers for sale, so you may even be able to make it into a touch screen, regardless.
Practical not yet but super cool
I feel like for the next iteration, you can do it similar to the GPD Win Max 2 that you showed off earlier. Basically let's say it looks like a laptop. The screen is on the top portion, and the keyboard is on the bottom portion. So it looks like a laptop, but have the battery somehow behind the monitor, and have the joycons / controller attach to a rail on the keyboard portion of the laptop. Maybe? Anyways great work, and I think Framework should listen to you and get the power issue sorted in the BIOS. I recall this isn't the first time you've raised issue about the BIOS, especially in your earlier cyberdeck video, no?
Dude this is epic refine the charging solution and increase the size of the display or add 2 displays one 16:9 and one smaller at 21:9 for permanent onscreen keyboard and hardware stats during gameplay also making it thiner by changing the type of LCD to something more integrated and also changing most cables from round wire based to ribbon style would make this a lot more versatile and better looking
You are an inspiration to all budding inventors / designers out here. Keep doing your thing. Blessings
I love me cyberdecks, great video!
Very cool video, curious what's going on with your arm and the screen at 22:22
It's a davinci resolve power window. The room was dark so I pumped up the gain in post but I excluded the screen with a window so I didn't blow out the brightness. I should have cut the window when the screen went out.
The beauty is definitely in the journey of design, fab, and assembly.
Hopefully swapping to an Intel board solves the battery issue.
You should have put the new channel shout out at the start of the video! Subscribed.
But that would spoil the reveal. ;)
I really want to do this with custom cooling and a12 inch display
it's nice the only thing I dislike is the form-factor and the keyboard + touchpad below
Great build! Would love to see one without the keyboard and internal battery - when playing on those kind of consoles I’m almost always connected to the wall, and then when using in desktop mode you would probably use a better standalone inputs. Still, congrats for the effort! 🎉
when the framework 16 comes out I wanna see if its possible to make a 16 inch cyber deck with a descret GPU
Hi CJ. Have you ever though about making a rugged/passively cooled chassis for the framework? i feel that so many people would be excited to see that! I work in a lab/boat and "rugged" pcs are very very expensive and pretty bad. because the framework is repairable and the motherboard will remain the same shape for a long time, i think this would be a great system to make a rugged chassis for. I would buy one.
I had an idea to turn a Pelican 1120 case into a rugged framework enclosure but I've never completed the plans.
It's been 7 months. Did framework ever resolve the standalone issue?
Now I want to see a version of this without the keyboard and using Chimera OS or Holo ISO...
Now... I do think this is the least portable portable console ever; yet I wouldn't want it to be smaller. Instead, actually if we could just use the space by shrinking the bezel for bigger screen & bigger keyboard (ideally with numblock added) + touchpad...
then I would buy this thing in a heartbeat.
This is awesome
Heh, fascinating project. On the one hand, great work putting this together, on the other it's absolutely fugly and is in desperate need of a v2 with smaller bezels, a usable keyboard and touchpad, and more. You could also save _a lot_ of internal space by using something like ADT-link's internal slim cabling, as that would save you from the nested adapters and thick wiring. And when you've got that kind of access to 3D printing gear, why not make something nicer than just a rectangular box? Please round off some edges and corners.
Still think you could've made a hinge work. Just would've had to be creative with the design of the case. Maybe two large bumps where the connectors would go.
Love it.
holy crap that looks like the Pipboy from Fallout 1
i guess if you want performance of the legion go and size of zendeck. it aint going to be easy. maybe i should go for this. is this cheaper than buying competitors?
im actually considering making m yown. im nto sure what to do first and how to get those 3d custom made pc handheld gaming cases.
aero gel spacer? for battery isolation
That would insulate the battery from the main board, but it will also insulate the battery from the ability to shed its own heat.
@@ElevatedSystems Put cooling vents on back side of battery to allow cooling
Or put a spacer so the battery has a 1 cm gap use said gap for air flow from a high flow fan
it would be very loud and fat machine.
also could power the frame work from usb type and bypass all the battery stuff as well
that keyboard kills it for me, more time on finding a screen and keyboard that fit better with the not so great form factor would have got me to watch the whole way through
I really think if you're going to make a handheld from the framework base then the keyboard should be very usable or totally scrapped.
Can you rearrange the cells and ribbon cables exist for standard HDMI/DP connections
You don’t need to rearrange anything, the expansion bays in the bottom will work with all the framework expansion cards including the HDMI and DP ones.
Framework should jump on this and provide on schematics to make this efficient if they wont make one themselves.
mad lad !
why not put spacer in between the motherboard and battery
Because that would thermally insulate the battery which is also bad.
I challenge you to create a VR backpack with framework I bet it's impossible
Can’t believe this channel has less than 50k subs…
I really wonder if using a bigger screen wouldn't be a way better experience. I rather use the crap Windows keyboard on a big tablet when I need than having that amount of space occupied with that keyboard when I don't need. Anyway, nice project. The nature of it is jenky but I'm a sucker for that
Ya Bro, I read your lips at 9:22 😮🤣
Looks like a cyberpunk 2077 meme.
Nevertheless, this is fascinating, and I have enjoyed the *bleep" out of this video.
This DIY is a moot point,
If your going to make it at those dimensions might as well just use the framework Shells with a controller .
For how thick the vessel is you could of easily had a bigger keyboard
I couldn't find an off-the-shelf one that fit without adding several mm to the height or width of the console. There is no extra room inside the case due to the speakers and internal expansion ports. I am considering designing and having my own custom keyboard PCB fabricated for Version 2.0. If that ever happens.
@@ElevatedSystemsgotcha
@16:19 that editing lol
It looks like a 2ds with a keyboard
Cool but Onexplayer X1 is the best concept hands down.
So it's a Lenovo Legion Go only GIANT with a smaller screen...lol
nice
this is the most cumbersome, unintuitive and uncomfortable, looking device i have ever seen and i absolutely love it.
Remove the internal battery and use external high wattage battery with a braket on the back .
I have a couple but they weigh more than the console.
this is horrible!!! I love it
lmao 2ds wants to talk
One of my alternate plans actually had a 16:9 OLED top display and a 5 inch OLED 4:3 touchscreen on the bottom instead of the keyboard.
I can't see this as more than a side project to do for the fun of doing something, as is it's not the most handleable handheld and if you're docking it you might as well just have a desktop, not the best handheld and not the best desktop
While this is an awesome build, that is way too big. It's bigger than the Legion Go and that is already big for a handheld.
Mr Beast subtitles
You call that portable?
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this just goes to show the stagnation of innovation in the last 15 years. big tech is creatively and morally bankrupt.
This design is absurd I it looks like a parody of this type of device, and not something that is easy to use.
Why all of you make the same mistake of using windows for device like this :/ ,
you should use linux distro like: HoloISO, ChimeraOS or Bazzite,
also for me device like this not useable without trackpads - so this is why only have SteamDeck.
TommyB did better
woah that thing is ugly
Your Mom was my main inspiration.
That is just awful