It's fairly lore accurate; the JJ verse films have thier ship battles vomiting phasers and torpedoes like Oprah handing out new cars every second they're on screen.
YOU get a phaser, YOU get a phaser, YOU get a phaser! EVERYBODY GETS A PHASER! 😆 I never watched that episode live, but recounts of it were inescapable.😀
@@compmanio36they had a ton of weapon platforms on the Kelvin. Personally, I liked it. Different types for different situations or all at once. Those ships didn't have a lot of support and it could take weeks for someone to respond. They needed to be armed to the teeth.
@_Flo._.07_ is the Nerada a playable ship? It's just a mining ship but it was technologically superior because it was from the future. I imagine the scimitar would make quick work of it.
00:32 They're not. They are shown to have little or no shielding, and less versatile phasers. They're definitely only as powerful at best, but while being stronger and weaker in different areas. But there is definitely more on-screen evidence of them being weaker than there is of them being stronger.
I think he means after that. It only makes sense for Starfleet to greatly increase its offensive capabilities after encountering a ship that wiped out an entire task force while hardly batting an eye. I mean, the only ship we really see after the first movie is the Enterprise, which likely hasn't been upgraded. Instead, new ships would be developed from scratch, much as he says, the 24th century fleet does after encountering the Borg and the Dominion.
I'd love to see how this battle would have gone if the Prime Universe Reliant focused its fire on the Kelvin Universe's torpedo launcher. Take out that launcher and perhaps the battle could have been winnable.
7:20 "To the last... I grapple with thee." *Opens self destruct menu* "No, you can't get away. From hell's heart... I stab at thee!" *Arms self destruct* "For hate's sake, I *spit* my last breath at thee!" *Confirms self destruct, Reliant explodes* A pretty interesting battle. You actually managed to destroy the JJ Reliant's sensors in that last phaser volley but you didn't see the sensor target tab disappear and no one on the Reliant bridge pointed it out. I think I like the aesthetics of the JJ Miranda. It's not an affront to good design like the ST2009 Connie. She seems a little more squat and sleeker, the nacelles are a little chunkier but not fat, the weapons pod roll bar is nice. Weapon wise, it is probably accurate because the JJ ships seem to have belt fed torpedo tubes and phasers that don't overheat. I noticed though that the JJ Miranda doesn't have the phaser cannons on the roll bar.
@@samspeed6271 @ Yes...I mentioned that too... Should have been a Kelvin Timeline Variant of the TMP TWOK "Mega Phasers..." Which were supposed to be more powerful....There should have been more Pulse Phaser arrays firing too! The Kelvin Timeline Variant should have been at least twice the size of the TMP TWOK Reliant (400- 500m)
" Kahn I'm laughing at the superior intellect!" I would love to see the Galaxy class Enterprise (Take apart) i mean battle the Enterprise haha (:(; ) G !
I think it may look like there are too many torpedoes in the K-verse ship because, they reload so fast. Sometimes, the first torpedo in the volley reloads before the last one is fired.
😨Gosh Admiral.. love the Kelvin USS Reliant.. looks nice and always love the Prime one too. I had a feeling the Kelvin one would have ''pew, pew', phasers lol. J.J. brought that from his roll of directing Star Wars. hmm. lol. One comment, the Wrath of Kahn Kelvin version. eeh. I like Kahn more in the Kelvin timeline. just saying. and he would have the Vengeance.. Was the Kelvin Reliant in the movies. I missed it. hmm. I have the Reliant and the Excelsior models too.. made the Reliant, Excelsior still in the box and sealed. hmm. 🤔Ohh like Voyager lol. unlimited torps gosh. I wonder, in this game, can you target the torpedoes, like in the console games.. This was a crazy match.. and interesting one. gosh. So if both ships blew up, would there be 2 planets made lol just saying!! eeh. Love the battle Admiral!😊🖖
I'm kind of disappointed in the Kelvin-timeline Miranda's design. Given how drastically different the Enterprise looks, I wouldn't have expected this to look practically like the TMP-era Miranda with new nacelles slapped on.
@@atomicninjaduck9200 welll...... There *is* a JJ Miranda (actually several, including one in a separate BAZ JJ pack that is closer to the JJ films) This ship was part of a pack that BAZ did blending the JJ designs with TMP traits
@@serpentinious7745 *smallest* ship that can take out the BaseStar? Assuming you use a given mod's default weapon set? I would guess the ID4 (Captured) fighter and its Nuke weapon. As far as a Trek ship... the Aeon comes to mind, as does SciFi's USS Defiant mod.
I wonder just how effective the Kelvin TL's USS Vengeance would be. Perhaps put it up against some prime timeline enemies? Romulans and Cardassians from after the TOS Motion Pictures' time? Or even a standard Borg cube?
Nice ship but it doesn't look Kelviny enough, just looks like a miranda variant with different warp engines. Maybe twice the size with more ample nacelles
I think the biggest difference which we didn't see is that the size of the ships should be vastly different with the Kelvin timeline Reliant being much larger.
If you could put weapon's and shields at 200% in prime timeline one it might win or be an a closer fight but that feature isn't in remastered that's something i think would be cool at least the ships that have the power reserve to do so
So I would have to assume that a Kelvin Miranda class is bigger than a Nebula class since the Kelvin Constitution was larger than a Sovereign class. Not sure how balanced that is.
@@Quan10Mack Lol, Which version of the K"Vort? 😂 I forget the name of the episode, one specific instance comes to mind of the Enterprise facing down 2 Romulan Warbirds (already twice the size of a Galaxy Class), and then Klingon Birds of Prey pop up, on a scale that makes the L42 Great Bird gaze in awe.😂🤣
@@Quan10Mack ah, forgot the DS9TM had info on the Kvort! On an aside, thanks for this discussion, will be wanting to include the L24 as a target for some conversion tests in the near future.😂
Hey @RetroBadger could you please do a video of a modified Dominion war variant Oberth Class vs. a Jem'hadar fighter? I've always wondered how the U.S.S. Cochrane (a science vessel) possibly survived the Dominion War.
While I loved seeing two different versions of my favorite starship battling each other, I have serious problems with the Kelvin Universe, so I really don't care that their version won. I'm sticking with the Miranda I've always loved. I heard the same rumors RBG. That would explain why the J.J. Abrams Enterprise is two or three times the size of it's Prime Universe counterpart.
could u do a fleet of 5 to 10 kelvin timeline reliants vs uss premonition and enterprise f if the game allows please, never know the jj torpedo launchers might make a difference but my money is on the premonition like always haha
The JJ-Prise was about the size of a Galaxy-class. Is the JJ-Liant to what the Reliant was to the USS Enterprise refit? 0:45 I personally have great difficulty believing that those shuttlecraft could've escaped the Narada and the Klingon armada. The opening is so bad that I believe that I could have written an objectively better sequence which would both explain the different appearance of the USS Enterprise, faster-than-light effect and how they would have escaped.
@@keyboardt8276 It's not merely a matter of avoiding weapons' fire. The shuttles of this era have limited range and speed and James Tiberius Kirk was a newborn. But we are getting ahead of ourselves. The Narada supposedly has got Borg-enhanced weaponry, according to the first comic at least, and Nero did not know that the USS Kelvin was a 23rd century ship when he fired on it. The latter should have been destroyed even if by accident.
@@enterprise-h312the comic is not canon iirc, so as far as the movie goes the Narada was an ordinary 24th century mining vessel, and the weapons it fired were either for self-defense or mining.
It's a motion across the undiscovered country toward the final frontier to search for Spock. Once we find him, we'll be making the voyage home, but I'm afraid it might take several generations to get there and back again (How on Middle-Earth did I manage to squeeze Hobbit in here?). If we can avoid making first contact with any potential nemesis, we should be able to sidetrack an unnecessary insurrection and be safe in our beds before the wrath of Khan befalls us. We must exercise caution when traversing the undiscovered country, though, or we might end up star trekking into darkness and, possibly, beyond. Get the picture? 😉
I didn't know that there was a JJ Miranda. It doesn't have that vulnerable globe in its aft dorsal area that Kirk targeted. 😀 Is the prefix code still 16309? 😆 It's like Voyager... it has unlimited torpedoes and shuttles. 🤣 Try the mutari nebula. Sauce for the goose... the odds will be even. 😀
HAHA! Hmmz. Interesting about the prefix code. I'm assuming as everything is bigger in that universe it has 10 digits. May explain why 16309 didn't work... Or should I have just doubled the number? 🤪The Mutari Nebula sounds like a great idea for a future battle 🖖
I gotta say the Kelvin timeline Reliant does look pretty nice. Pretty similar to the prime counterpart. I got to admit that the Kelvin Reliant actually looks better than the Kelvin Enterprise. It did seem like the Kelvin Miranda had powerful phasers but ya their torpedoes didn't seem as strong as the Prime Miranda. As far as the Kelvin Miranda firing more than the usual 6 torpedoes whenever it felt like...remember the Kelvin Enterprise had magical torpedo tubes from the side of the secondary hull. There were also a lot of things that just magically appeared out of the Kelvin Enterprise that made NO sense at all. By the way it's Narada not Naradra lol. Just as a little FYI. :)
Kelvin ships are chunky versions or the og time line as they carry more power to weapons and shields and engines to be more powerfull at there time there at least two decades head with weapons and size the d was smaller then enterpise in kelvine timeline A enterpise but the D had more empty space for crew and extra as it tech was smaller
Shouldn't the Kelvin USS Reliant be massively larger than the Prime universe version? I mean the Kelvin Enterprise is larger than the Galaxy class so shouldn't the Kelvin Miranda class be the size of the Nebula class?
Why didn't anybody ask the JJ Khan: "So, um, your name is Khan Noonien Singh. Why are you pasty white with blue eyes and speak with an English accent?...."
I actually enjoyed the Kelvin ships, particularly because it’s a separate timeline and doesn’t step on canon. That’s also the reason I resent Discovery’s dumb 32nd century and it’s weird ships.
Kelvin timeline ships are larger and more powerful because 'borg technology' according to abram's but far as I know he gives no reason for how they got it or how it was applied to entire ships. The kelvin connie is supposed to be the size of a galaxy class according to him. We don't really know how good the shields are because everything that fought the kelvin enterprise ripped through it like tissue paper. Future timeline romulan borg modified torpedos, the Vengance was so large it dwarfed the enterprise and had advanced phasers, and then we saw the 'ancient' hive ships bypass the shields with shear insane numbers. Honestly the kelvin timeline is a mess, no consistency. But then again the shows always made the enterprises scale to the needs of the weekly episodes, one week its invincible next week it gets 1 shot. Ill give a guess and say while enterprise was size of a galaxy their weapons and shields were at best only at the TMP. That would give them around the excel's shield/phasers/torpedos.
Iirc Abrams didn't say Borg tech was involved. It makes sense imo to upscale their ships to fit in more weapons and power generation after encountering a super-ship which easily defeated the Kelvin though. I don't think size is really a technological limitation for the Federation since even 22nd century Vulcan ships were around 600m long.
The looks of the ships being different isnt cause of that.... narada doesnt look like a normal ship inside too... all ships in the JJ movies look different for other reason of copy right or what not! Spock knew it was kirk... same reason for the difference of the look in ships not exact but it is what it is... Kirk is kirk even tho its not william shatner! Spock is spock!
The Jj-verse is bs in many ways. I consider power balance of that universe, or at least how its depicted in Bc to be an absolute joke. Those ships all appear totally worthless unless you want to buy a macbook pro....
This is why Star Trek isn't going anywhere. Instead of creating new content they're recycling the best and making it into cheap knockoffs. All of Abrams' content is garbage.
Lets just face it. The JJ version of this universe just sucked. This is about one mans ego, thats it he, believed he was better then Roddenberry and Spielberg. He was wrong. Now you guys are trying create story lines to cover his nonsense, really.
A theoretical ship battle??? Whats next a Invisible Man episode vs Wolf Man battle??? Yawn,im going to bed... geade is D minus and im not even halfway through video...
It's fairly lore accurate; the JJ verse films have thier ship battles vomiting phasers and torpedoes like Oprah handing out new cars every second they're on screen.
YOU get a phaser, YOU get a phaser, YOU get a phaser!
EVERYBODY GETS A PHASER! 😆
I never watched that episode live, but recounts of it were inescapable.😀
Your shields get a phaser, your hull gets a phaser, your weapons ports get a phaser, your torpedoes get a phaser, and your mother gets a torpedo.
And because of the Nero situation that diverged the two timelines, we see the Kelvin timeline Starfleet far more weaponized than the Prime universe.
@@compmanio36they had a ton of weapon platforms on the Kelvin. Personally, I liked it. Different types for different situations or all at once. Those ships didn't have a lot of support and it could take weeks for someone to respond. They needed to be armed to the teeth.
Even if Khan was in command, his strategy in the past indicates 2 dimensional thinking.
Well now we obviously need to see a Kelvin timeline interpretation of the famous Wrath of Khan battle
Added to the list 🖖
Would be interesting to see what a Kelvin Galaxy Class would look like
I was just thinking that too!
I'm convinced that the reason the Reason why everything is so big in the jj verse Is because everyone Is secretly 4ft 😅
A battle between the Nerada and the scimitar would be interesting
@_Flo._.07_ is the Nerada a playable ship? It's just a mining ship but it was technologically superior because it was from the future. I imagine the scimitar would make quick work of it.
@@mdmyer yes the nerada is playable in BC
That thing seems to have weaponized whatever plot hole Voyager pulls all of its torpedoes out of.
It's because Mary Poppins Is secretly a crew member 😊
"A spoonful of torpedoes make your enemy blow up!"
@@Brasc
Ensign Mary Poppins 'in a most delightful way'
Janeway: yes. Ensign your promoted,🤣
@@alanmike6883Harry Kim just standing there with his arms crossed ...
the big advantage for the kelvin is the torpedos. cannot miss.
7:22 great battle but you had disabled their sensors before you blew your ship up 😮 LLAP 🖖
Yeah victory was yours!
Thanks for pointing this out! I had no idea 🤣🤣. Poor Khan, he was on the verge of the greatest victory in history.. 🖖
I would have thought that since the Kelvin timeline USS Enterprise is bigger than the TOS timeline then the Kelvin USS Reliant would also be bigger.
That rear torpedo recharges almost instantly. Even before you reach your turning.
@@mikeyboy1234567 yarp, a trait shared amongst BAZ's TMP JJ pack
00:32 They're not. They are shown to have little or no shielding, and less versatile phasers. They're definitely only as powerful at best, but while being stronger and weaker in different areas. But there is definitely more on-screen evidence of them being weaker than there is of them being stronger.
I think he means after that. It only makes sense for Starfleet to greatly increase its offensive capabilities after encountering a ship that wiped out an entire task force while hardly batting an eye.
I mean, the only ship we really see after the first movie is the Enterprise, which likely hasn't been upgraded. Instead, new ships would be developed from scratch, much as he says, the 24th century fleet does after encountering the Borg and the Dominion.
I'd love to see how this battle would have gone if the Prime Universe Reliant focused its fire on the Kelvin Universe's torpedo launcher. Take out that launcher and perhaps the battle could have been winnable.
7:20
"To the last... I grapple with thee." *Opens self destruct menu*
"No, you can't get away. From hell's heart... I stab at thee!" *Arms self destruct*
"For hate's sake, I *spit* my last breath at thee!" *Confirms self destruct, Reliant explodes*
A pretty interesting battle. You actually managed to destroy the JJ Reliant's sensors in that last phaser volley but you didn't see the sensor target tab disappear and no one on the Reliant bridge pointed it out.
I think I like the aesthetics of the JJ Miranda. It's not an affront to good design like the ST2009 Connie. She seems a little more squat and sleeker, the nacelles are a little chunkier but not fat, the weapons pod roll bar is nice. Weapon wise, it is probably accurate because the JJ ships seem to have belt fed torpedo tubes and phasers that don't overheat. I noticed though that the JJ Miranda doesn't have the phaser cannons on the roll bar.
@@samspeed6271 @ Yes...I mentioned that too... Should have been a Kelvin Timeline Variant of the TMP TWOK "Mega Phasers..." Which were supposed to be more powerful....There should have been more Pulse Phaser arrays firing too!
The Kelvin Timeline Variant should have been at least twice the size of the TMP TWOK Reliant (400- 500m)
If you kept that rear torpedo firing as fast as it recharged you would devastate them quickly from the Kelvin Reliant
How is that supposed to be from the JJ-verse when it isn’t at least 700 meters long? 😏
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Because BAZ1701 treated these with respect.😎
Maybe 400 to 500m!
Not just that but where is the beer vats?
@@valor1omega 😂😂😂
Guessing Starfleet used the Photon Generator from Project Vengeance?😅
There must be a kelvin timeline Janeway onboard with the amount of torpedo's they had onboard
I am not convinced that scanning the romulan mining ship was enough, considering the Kelvin was destroyed soon after.
Ty for the video and LLAP!
" Kahn I'm laughing at the superior intellect!"
I would love to see the Galaxy class Enterprise (Take apart) i mean battle the Enterprise haha (:(; ) G !
Kelvin ships were much larger than the main timeline too, so a 1 on 1 is always going to be difficult for main timeline ships to win.
I think it may look like there are too many torpedoes in the K-verse ship because, they reload so fast. Sometimes, the first torpedo in the volley reloads before the last one is fired.
The Ship :"U.S.S. Reliant NCC-1864 " ,is a little, smartes powerfull Starship! For me a top ship! Video - Battle in the Stars 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖!
Awesome video, as always. What about the Kelvin Enterprise vs the Enterprise-E?
9 torps at 4:00. Yeah this was a slaughter.
I love the Miranda class😊
😨Gosh Admiral.. love the Kelvin USS Reliant.. looks nice and always love the Prime one too. I had a feeling the Kelvin one would have ''pew, pew', phasers lol. J.J. brought that from his roll of directing Star Wars. hmm. lol. One comment, the Wrath of Kahn Kelvin version. eeh. I like Kahn more in the Kelvin timeline. just saying. and he would have the Vengeance.. Was the Kelvin Reliant in the movies. I missed it. hmm. I have the Reliant and the Excelsior models too.. made the Reliant, Excelsior still in the box and sealed. hmm. 🤔Ohh like Voyager lol. unlimited torps gosh. I wonder, in this game, can you target the torpedoes, like in the console games.. This was a crazy match.. and interesting one. gosh. So if both ships blew up, would there be 2 planets made lol just saying!! eeh. Love the battle Admiral!😊🖖
I'm kind of disappointed in the Kelvin-timeline Miranda's design. Given how drastically different the Enterprise looks, I wouldn't have expected this to look practically like the TMP-era Miranda with new nacelles slapped on.
@@atomicninjaduck9200 welll......
There *is* a JJ Miranda (actually several, including one in a separate BAZ JJ pack that is closer to the JJ films)
This ship was part of a pack that BAZ did blending the JJ designs with TMP traits
Well Kelvin tos Miranda actually see one in first movie really not much different from prime Tos miranda
@@dragoontype00alphaz19 yarp
Boom sweet may vs Yamato
Request: what's the smallest ship (from any time) that can take out the USS Basestar?
@@serpentinious7745 *smallest* ship that can take out the BaseStar?
Assuming you use a given mod's default weapon set?
I would guess the ID4 (Captured) fighter and its Nuke weapon.
As far as a Trek ship... the Aeon comes to mind, as does SciFi's USS Defiant mod.
Request - send BAZ's JJTMP Reliant against WileyCoyote's Reliant.😎
As the USS Voyager's Mess Hall replicator once said: Make it yourself! 😉😁
@@MisterMarin 😂😂😂
You unlocked the special finishing move on the Kalvin class
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I'm going to call BS on those results. No ship from any timeline is a match for The Superior Intellect!
Now this is interesting!
There is another Kelvan timeline. It's one where the Andromeda Kelvans have concurred the Milky way Galaxy.
The Kelvin timeline variant should have more phaser Arrays firing too... And maybe a version of the mega phasers.....
I wonder just how effective the Kelvin TL's USS Vengeance would be. Perhaps put it up against some prime timeline enemies? Romulans and Cardassians from after the TOS Motion Pictures' time? Or even a standard Borg cube?
Please bring more Kelvin Timeline ships videos!
@@jhonathanrafael7971 hmm... maybe need to get BAZ's JJ Pack on my to-convert list...😅
Nice ship but it doesn't look Kelviny enough, just looks like a miranda variant with different warp engines. Maybe twice the size with more ample nacelles
I think that kelvin miranda needs to be brought to Star Base Nerf for refits
Ooops, you forgot to take out the JJ prise Reliant's torpedoes 1st. That cost ya the battle.
I think the biggest difference which we didn't see is that the size of the ships should be vastly different with the Kelvin timeline Reliant being much larger.
Very true 🖖
Hi the RBG....anymore STO play throughs.....? Miss them
Just wondering, will you be doing any more walkthroughs of any other Star Trek games soon?
If you could put weapon's and shields at 200% in prime timeline one it might win or be an a closer fight but that feature isn't in remastered that's something i think would be cool at least the ships that have the power reserve to do so
The Kelvin Reliant doesn't look very Kelviny.
So I would have to assume that a Kelvin Miranda class is bigger than a Nebula class since the Kelvin Constitution was larger than a Sovereign class. Not sure how balanced that is.
@@Quan10Mack Lol
At least in BC the sizes are closer to "traditional" scaling 😂
@MSR-1701 Well except for the K'Vort class bird of prey. That was already ridiculously scaled by default.
@@Quan10Mack Lol, Which version of the K"Vort? 😂
I forget the name of the episode, one specific instance comes to mind of the Enterprise facing down 2 Romulan Warbirds (already twice the size of a Galaxy Class), and then Klingon Birds of Prey pop up, on a scale that makes the L42 Great Bird gaze in awe.😂🤣
@MSR-1701 When I think of the K'Vort class I'm always thinking about the DS9 Technical Manual saying it's supposed to be over 600 meters.
@@Quan10Mack ah, forgot the DS9TM had info on the Kvort!
On an aside, thanks for this discussion, will be wanting to include the L24 as a target for some conversion tests in the near future.😂
How about Warp Delta ships from Enterprise vs period Romulan Warbirds. They almost look like one another. 🙂
Id like to see the TOS Frederation Class take on the A, the B? Will it take the Enterprise C to take it out?
Hey @RetroBadger could you please do a video of a modified Dominion war variant Oberth Class vs. a Jem'hadar fighter? I've always wondered how the U.S.S. Cochrane (a science vessel) possibly survived the Dominion War.
While I loved seeing two different versions of my favorite starship battling each other, I have serious problems with the Kelvin Universe, so I really don't care that their version won. I'm sticking with the Miranda I've always loved. I heard the same rumors RBG. That would explain why the J.J. Abrams Enterprise is two or three times the size of it's Prime Universe counterpart.
could u do a fleet of 5 to 10 kelvin timeline reliants vs uss premonition and enterprise f if the game allows please, never know the jj torpedo launchers might make a difference but my money is on the premonition like always haha
The JJ-Prise was about the size of a Galaxy-class. Is the JJ-Liant to what the Reliant was to the USS Enterprise refit?
0:45 I personally have great difficulty believing that those shuttlecraft could've escaped the Narada and the Klingon armada. The opening is so bad that I believe that I could have written an objectively better sequence which would both explain the different appearance of the USS Enterprise, faster-than-light effect and how they would have escaped.
The Narada was crippled by the Kelvin's suicide ram, and the Klingons probably didn't care about the shuttles
@@keyboardt8276 It's not merely a matter of avoiding weapons' fire. The shuttles of this era have limited range and speed and James Tiberius Kirk was a newborn.
But we are getting ahead of ourselves. The Narada supposedly has got Borg-enhanced weaponry, according to the first comic at least, and Nero did not know that the USS Kelvin was a 23rd century ship when he fired on it. The latter should have been destroyed even if by accident.
@@enterprise-h312the comic is not canon iirc, so as far as the movie goes the Narada was an ordinary 24th century mining vessel, and the weapons it fired were either for self-defense or mining.
Wasn’t the K Miranda’s sensors taken before your self destruct? Could have won still 😂
Who started this trend of creating multiple USS Reliants? What's the genesis of this?
@@deepdivedylan 🤣🤣🤣
It's a motion across the undiscovered country toward the final frontier to search for Spock. Once we find him, we'll be making the voyage home, but I'm afraid it might take several generations to get there and back again (How on Middle-Earth did I manage to squeeze Hobbit in here?).
If we can avoid making first contact with any potential nemesis, we should be able to sidetrack an unnecessary insurrection and be safe in our beds before the wrath of Khan befalls us.
We must exercise caution when traversing the undiscovered country, though, or we might end up star trekking into darkness and, possibly, beyond.
Get the picture? 😉
@@MisterMarin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
6 front and 12 rear from Kalvin ship.
J.J. Abrams is now bustling with pride.
I didn't know that there was a JJ Miranda. It doesn't have that vulnerable globe in its aft dorsal area that Kirk targeted. 😀 Is the prefix code still 16309? 😆
It's like Voyager... it has unlimited torpedoes and shuttles. 🤣
Try the mutari nebula. Sauce for the goose... the odds will be even. 😀
@@retluoc 🤣
HAHA! Hmmz. Interesting about the prefix code. I'm assuming as everything is bigger in that universe it has 10 digits. May explain why 16309 didn't work... Or should I have just doubled the number? 🤪The Mutari Nebula sounds like a great idea for a future battle 🖖
I gotta say the Kelvin timeline Reliant does look pretty nice. Pretty similar to the prime counterpart. I got to admit that the Kelvin Reliant actually looks better than the Kelvin Enterprise.
It did seem like the Kelvin Miranda had powerful phasers but ya their torpedoes didn't seem as strong as the Prime Miranda.
As far as the Kelvin Miranda firing more than the usual 6 torpedoes whenever it felt like...remember the Kelvin Enterprise had magical torpedo tubes from the side of the secondary hull. There were also a lot of things that just magically appeared out of the Kelvin Enterprise that made NO sense at all.
By the way it's Narada not Naradra lol. Just as a little FYI. :)
LOL! That's a good point about the Magical features of the Kelvin Enterprise, forgot about that 🖖
Kelvin ships are chunky versions or the og time line as they carry more power to weapons and shields and engines to be more powerfull at there time there at least two decades head with weapons and size the d was smaller then enterpise in kelvine timeline A enterpise but the D had more empty space for crew and extra as it tech was smaller
If it's possible kelvin NX class vs Prime NX class.
Not so insane, the Kelvin timeline ships are also bigger, meaning they carry more of, well, everything, such as torps sir?
Shouldn't the Kelvin USS Reliant be massively larger than the Prime universe version? I mean the Kelvin Enterprise is larger than the Galaxy class so shouldn't the Kelvin Miranda class be the size of the Nebula class?
That’s a good point 🖖
Wouldn't the Kelvin timeline ship have big round Nacelles?
Firing that many torpedos is cheating
Cumberbatch vs Montalban?
I don't like anything from the Kelvin timeline except the Vengeance, even that I find the phasers a little annoying on.
Why didn't anybody ask the JJ Khan: "So, um, your name is Khan Noonien Singh. Why are you pasty white with blue eyes and speak with an English accent?...."
Kelvin uss reliant vs a Klingon bird of prey or a jem hadar fighter.
Kelvin Miranda vs Kelvin Constitution?
I actually enjoyed the Kelvin ships, particularly because it’s a separate timeline and doesn’t step on canon. That’s also the reason I resent Discovery’s dumb 32nd century and it’s weird ships.
Narada, not Naradra
This is better than all the JJ verse films, with their poor scripts, poor stories and poor everything. At least we get new ships! 🖖
Is one more Reliant than the other? 🤔🤓
@@jeffcullifer5629 😅🤣😂
"Naradra"....you're doing that on purpose.
The “Kelvin” timeline, imo, isn’t Star Trek. It’s an Apple Store cash grab for people who couldn’t create a new idea for a show or movie.
Kelvin timeline ships are larger and more powerful because 'borg technology' according to abram's but far as I know he gives no reason for how they got it or how it was applied to entire ships. The kelvin connie is supposed to be the size of a galaxy class according to him. We don't really know how good the shields are because everything that fought the kelvin enterprise ripped through it like tissue paper. Future timeline romulan borg modified torpedos, the Vengance was so large it dwarfed the enterprise and had advanced phasers, and then we saw the 'ancient' hive ships bypass the shields with shear insane numbers. Honestly the kelvin timeline is a mess, no consistency. But then again the shows always made the enterprises scale to the needs of the weekly episodes, one week its invincible next week it gets 1 shot. Ill give a guess and say while enterprise was size of a galaxy their weapons and shields were at best only at the TMP. That would give them around the excel's shield/phasers/torpedos.
Iirc Abrams didn't say Borg tech was involved. It makes sense imo to upscale their ships to fit in more weapons and power generation after encountering a super-ship which easily defeated the Kelvin though. I don't think size is really a technological limitation for the Federation since even 22nd century Vulcan ships were around 600m long.
How does the Reliant (TWOK) fight against something that doesn’t exist??? (I wish, in my mind 😂😂😂)
How does something that doesn't really exist, fight against another thing that doesn't really exist?
@@Thurgosh_OG 👏well played
The looks of the ships being different isnt cause of that.... narada doesnt look like a normal ship inside too... all ships in the JJ movies look different for other reason of copy right or what not! Spock knew it was kirk... same reason for the difference of the look in ships not exact but it is what it is... Kirk is kirk even tho its not william shatner! Spock is spock!
Sadly should have been more of an equal battle Kelvin time overpowered.
Я правильно понимаю что это пак кораблей мираннда один какихто
the kelvin timeline phaser sounds are awful.
Someone has a real hardon for the JJ verse ships.
Dislike the JJ-verse phaser sounds
The Jj-verse is bs in many ways. I consider power balance of that universe, or at least how its depicted in Bc to be an absolute joke. Those ships all appear totally worthless unless you want to buy a macbook pro....
This is why Star Trek isn't going anywhere. Instead of creating new content they're recycling the best and making it into cheap knockoffs. All of Abrams' content is garbage.
Lets just face it. The JJ version of this universe just sucked. This is about one mans ego, thats it he, believed he was better then Roddenberry and Spielberg. He was wrong. Now you guys are trying create story lines to cover his nonsense, really.
A theoretical ship battle??? Whats next a Invisible Man episode vs Wolf Man battle??? Yawn,im going to bed... geade is D minus and im not even halfway through video...