It's interesting because it looks as if it's an R/T S/E car since it has the overhead console and the smaller rear window with the vinyl top............ but the S/E emblems aren't on the C pillar. And it doesn't look like they're just missing, it looks like they were never there! Very strange, but if it is a true R/T S/E car it's pretty rare!!!
It's an SE car only way to get the smaller back window and has the faux wood grain on door panels with the overhead console..FE5 and black vinyl top RT/SE 4406packwith the top gauge cluster seats rim blow wheel PS PB and console 83/4 rear probably but that A34 TRACK PACK 3.54 gear Dana would seem to fit the option list ...bet it's an early August Car also for a dealer show room car! Without the original engine and after 100k restoration...THAT ROOF IS GNARLY....an EASY 40-50K car when done 🤣
I had a silver 1970 Challenger R/T SE, with a black vinyl top, 440 Six Pack with a 4-speed, 4.10 rear. The body was in good shape, but the car was street race modified, with a solid lifter cam and welded on ladder bars.. It had no other options. The complete cast iron Six Pack was in the trunk and the engine had headers and an 850 Holley on an Edelbrock CH4B intake and it had a high volume fuel pump. It did not have the shaker scoop, only the R/T hood. The rear was jacked up to clear the L60-15 tires and it had F78-15's on the front. The kid I sold it to, ran it into a fire hydrant. It was a mess, but he did get it repaired.
I had a 70 RT/SE 440 Six Pak. 4 speed, rear wing and chin spoilers. Amazing car. Sold it in 1997 for 18,000…. It would take 100,000 to restore the car you found here.
Nice!. Since you mentioned that it has a 9 before the V, it is indeed an R/T SE (JS29V0......). BTW, there were only 296 of 440 Six-Pack R/T SE's made (161 autos and 135 4-spds).
Let us know if it was for sale and what is asked. If you dont buy it you should document the fender tag and appearance of car as there are dedicated people who would like the info to add showing how many of these rare Mopars still exist. Just cover las six of v.i.n. Great find sir!
I got a 71 RT with a 383. Had it since 1982. Here’s the issue. When I was young I had the time but no money. Now I’m older, I have the money but don’t have the time. Today by chipping away at it and buying parts here and there I can stand back and say it’s 90% done.mother next 10% is most likely less than 3K in parts and material. Now the motivation
AMAZING ITS A SUNROOF CAR ALSO...and (Love mopars) the PAPER THIN mopar sheet metal shines through LITERALLY and to think...LESS WORK w/vinyl tops from a FINISH STANDPOINT....THEY ACTUALLY CHARGED MORE and had to be laughing their asses off every vinyl top car they sold! AND CHARGED MORE to drop an insert into backwindow opening and shove a smaller window in saves on glass...ALWAYS A VINYL TOP car!
Ur exactly right. Small back window overhead console vinyl top. Ill bet it wont sell cheap even without matching number motor. That car deserves full resto! Lot of money if you cant do the work.
You will be UPSIDE DOWN in that rust bucket. Floors are most likely Swiss cheese, non original motor, cobbled up hood, and who knows what else. Remember, rust never sleeps.
Looks like a single 4 - barrel sitting on top of the motor. The opening on the hood looks beyond sketchy. This is what's WRONG with the classic car market. CAR FLIPPERS drive the price up on these beauties. What's worse, is you got guys who know very little, but think that's all there is to know. R/T was a trim package and didn't always translate to sweet engine and drive train, This car quite possibly could have started off as a 318 / 2 - barrel with single exhaust. It definitely didn't come with that cut out in the hood. I can't imagine somebody turning a legit muscle car into a clone of one with after market goodies. First off, scrapping the factory shaker hood and installing your own consisting of a single round hole to accommodate the stock air filter housing...SMFH 🤦♂️ This car would've been a good beater for the winter. Back in the day you could find these for a few hundred dollars.
First off, an R/T is not a trim package. Its the performance package. The base motor on that car would be a 383 magnum 4bbl. The V in the v.i.n. signifies that it was built with the optional 440 sixpack engine. The standard dual scoop R/T hood looks like that not because its a shaker, far from it. Its because some idiot cut a round hole in it for the tunnel ram. Probably drag raced before. The S.E. came with the overhead console that can be seen on the headliner in Challengers. The S.E.also came with the smaller “opera” style back glass insert which required a vinyl top to hide the fiberglass insert that held the smaller back glass. If he would have shown the fender tag we could see exactly what options and packages it was built with.👍🏻
Yeah, the other guy explained it pretty well. The "V" in the VIN means it was a 440/6 Pack. The Rallye gauges are also a pretty good indicator it began life as an R/T. The Shaker hood was an option and not standard on the 6 Pack. Back in the '80's and even the '90's these cars just weren't valuable enough worry about and many were hacked up for racing as this one appears to have been. In 1995 I was torn between 2 different cars, a 1970 Challenger R/T with a 426/4 speed or a 1970 Corvette with a 454/4 speed. The Challenger was $10k and the Corvette was $11,500. I chose the Vette. What a monumental mistake. But that tells you what they cost in 1995, a 6 Pack car probably would have been about half what a Hemi car sold for, maybe slightly more.
R/T was the performance package...1970 R/T only came with the high performance 383 Magnum,440 Magnum,440 Magnum 6 Pack or 426 Hemi.. R/T never came with a 318 or even a 340 in 1970..in 1971 stricter regulations came in and they offered the 340 as an R/T option but the 340 was a killer engine..1971 last year of the R/T you had 340 magnum,383 magnum,440 magnum Six Pack and 426 Hemi.. You are thinking of Chevrolet their SS was a just a trim as you could get 6 cyl with the SS in the 60's..R/T was High Performance! Only R/T with a 318 was later on with the Aspen in 1976-1980 along with a few different 360's including the high performance E-58 360 4bbl.. 1967-1971 R/T was like the current SRT division High Performance V8's.Later R/T was in trucks as the Dakota R/T in 1998 with the 360. Furthermore when were these $300 that ran and drove/what year? In the 80's these were $1000 for a 1973 318 car that was in rough shape...Chevelle's or Mustangs were always cheaper than Chrysler products..I always paid top dollar for Mopars..But remember $300 in 1983 is the same as $1200 today.. The cheapest I paid was $1600 for a 73 318 Challenger that you could drive reliably..and looked decent this was 1985 that equals $4600 today so it was a lot of money especially making $4 per hour!
You couldnt get a Challenger Rt with a 318 . Since the R/T was a performance package you got the 383 big block as the base engine with optional engines being a 340, 440 six pack or 426 hemi . Shaker hood was optional on Challenger R/Ts .
@@1967davethewaveto your point! 1990 I was given a 340 out of a 1972 cuda just for the info on 1970s BURNT ORANGE 4406bbl 4 speed air grabber that the guy drove daily to work by the st. Louis airport! I could have had it for 500.00 for the engine or the car...I TOOK THE 340...impossible engine to find without the internet in one piece! That 1970 RR 4406pack4speed air grabber burnt orange RR bench seat car went to a guy who had 3 hemi cars Scott Seivaking!! I think😢 IT WAS almost visually/rusty similar but it didnt have a sunroof lol! ALL ORIGINAL and 20 years later no rebuild daily driver DESTROYED 2ND GEAR
It's interesting because it looks as if it's an R/T S/E car since it has the overhead console and the smaller rear window with the vinyl top............ but the S/E emblems aren't on the C pillar. And it doesn't look like they're just missing, it looks like they were never there! Very strange, but if it is a true R/T S/E car it's pretty rare!!!
Spot on Chris. It may have had a new vinyl roof at some point. I noticed it was peeling different to the bulk I've seen peeling. 🤙
It's an SE car only way to get the smaller back window and has the faux wood grain on door panels with the overhead console..FE5 and black vinyl top RT/SE 4406packwith the top gauge cluster seats rim blow wheel PS PB and console 83/4 rear probably but that A34 TRACK PACK 3.54 gear Dana would seem to fit the option list ...bet it's an early August Car also for a dealer show room car!
Without the original engine and after 100k restoration...THAT ROOF IS GNARLY....an EASY 40-50K car when done 🤣
I had a silver 1970 Challenger R/T SE, with a black vinyl top, 440 Six Pack with a 4-speed, 4.10 rear. The body was in good shape, but the car was street race modified, with a solid lifter cam and welded on ladder bars.. It had no other options. The complete cast iron Six Pack was in the trunk and the engine had headers and an 850 Holley on an Edelbrock CH4B intake and it had a high volume fuel pump. It did not have the shaker scoop, only the R/T hood. The rear was jacked up to clear the L60-15 tires and it had F78-15's on the front. The kid I sold it to, ran it into a fire hydrant. It was a mess, but he did get it repaired.
I had a 70 RT/SE 440 Six Pak. 4 speed, rear wing and chin spoilers. Amazing car. Sold it in 1997 for 18,000…. It would take 100,000 to restore the car you found here.
Nice!. Since you mentioned that it has a 9 before the V, it is indeed an R/T SE (JS29V0......). BTW, there were only 296 of 440 Six-Pack R/T SE's made (161 autos and 135 4-spds).
I had a silver 4-speed R/T SE with the 440 Six-Pack and 4-speed, 4.10 rear. The top was black and it did not have the shaker scoop.
I'm sure that was a ton of fun back in the day.
Hi Josh,
Cool find and great video. I'm in So,Cal if you do a deal and decide to re-sell.
Best Regards,
Matt
Restoring classic Mopars have gotten so expensive, it’s killing the desire to restore these cars financially.
It's not killing my desire, it's killing my ability.
First start sound 👍
Let us know if it was for sale and what is asked. If you dont buy it you should document the fender tag and appearance of car as there are dedicated people who would like the info to add showing how many of these rare Mopars still exist. Just cover las six of v.i.n. Great find sir!
Follow-up: did you buy it?
I got a 71 RT with a 383. Had it since 1982. Here’s the issue. When I was young I had the time but no money. Now I’m older, I have the money but don’t have the time. Today by chipping away at it and buying parts here and there I can stand back and say it’s 90% done.mother next 10% is most likely less than 3K in parts and material. Now the motivation
This is really rare as it isn't just an rt It's also an se. So a rt/se 6pack. Probably a few hundred built.
It’s hard to get all the rust out,but worth fixing.
Fire up 😁👍
AMAZING ITS A SUNROOF CAR ALSO...and (Love mopars) the PAPER THIN mopar sheet metal shines through LITERALLY and to think...LESS WORK w/vinyl tops from a FINISH STANDPOINT....THEY ACTUALLY CHARGED MORE and had to be laughing their asses off every vinyl top car they sold! AND CHARGED MORE to drop an insert into backwindow opening and shove a smaller window in saves on glass...ALWAYS A VINYL TOP car!
Looks like a R/T SE
Ur exactly right. Small back window overhead console vinyl top. Ill bet it wont sell cheap even without matching number motor. That car deserves full resto! Lot of money if you cant do the work.
Save the classics!
Shouldn't this R/T S/E car have an R/T hood and not the shaker?
It's a rt se
IF THIS ISNT A CRIME IT SHOULD BE ! 😭
Not worth restoration unless it comes with a fender tag or build sheet (and I'm not seeing a fender tag in that video).
'72 steering wheel
You will be UPSIDE DOWN in that rust bucket. Floors are most likely Swiss cheese, non original motor, cobbled up hood, and who knows what else. Remember, rust never sleeps.
Why are you talking buy it
there not that rare in the 727 auto dodge made 12000 the rare unit is the 4 speed R/T440 at about 400 units.
R/T SE
Cost to much to buy and fix...
Looks like a single 4 - barrel sitting on top of the motor. The opening on the hood looks beyond sketchy. This is what's WRONG with the classic car market. CAR FLIPPERS drive the price up on these beauties. What's worse, is you got guys who know very little, but think that's all there is to know. R/T was a trim package and didn't always translate to sweet engine and drive train, This car quite possibly could have started off as a 318 / 2 - barrel with single exhaust. It definitely didn't come with that cut out in the hood. I can't imagine somebody turning a legit muscle car into a clone of one with after market goodies. First off, scrapping the factory shaker hood and installing your own consisting of a single round hole to accommodate the stock air filter housing...SMFH 🤦♂️ This car would've been a good beater for the winter. Back in the day you could find these for a few hundred dollars.
First off, an R/T is not a trim package. Its the performance package. The base motor on that car would be a 383 magnum 4bbl. The V in the v.i.n. signifies that it was built with the optional 440 sixpack engine. The standard dual scoop R/T hood looks like that not because its a shaker, far from it. Its because some idiot cut a round hole in it for the tunnel ram. Probably drag raced before. The S.E. came with the overhead console that can be seen on the headliner in Challengers. The S.E.also came with the smaller “opera” style back glass insert which required a vinyl top to hide the fiberglass insert that held the smaller back glass. If he would have shown the fender tag we could see exactly what options and packages it was built with.👍🏻
Yeah, the other guy explained it pretty well. The "V" in the VIN means it was a 440/6 Pack. The Rallye gauges are also a pretty good indicator it began life as an R/T. The Shaker hood was an option and not standard on the 6 Pack. Back in the '80's and even the '90's these cars just weren't valuable enough worry about and many were hacked up for racing as this one appears to have been. In 1995 I was torn between 2 different cars, a 1970 Challenger R/T with a 426/4 speed or a 1970 Corvette with a 454/4 speed. The Challenger was $10k and the Corvette was $11,500. I chose the Vette. What a monumental mistake. But that tells you what they cost in 1995, a 6 Pack car probably would have been about half what a Hemi car sold for, maybe slightly more.
R/T was the performance package...1970 R/T only came with the high performance 383 Magnum,440 Magnum,440 Magnum 6 Pack or 426 Hemi..
R/T never came with a 318 or even a 340 in 1970..in 1971 stricter regulations came in and they offered the 340 as an R/T option but the 340 was a killer engine..1971 last year of the R/T you had 340 magnum,383 magnum,440 magnum Six Pack and 426 Hemi..
You are thinking of Chevrolet their SS was a just a trim as you could get 6 cyl with the SS in the 60's..R/T was High Performance!
Only R/T with a 318 was later on with the Aspen in 1976-1980 along with a few different 360's including the high performance E-58 360 4bbl..
1967-1971 R/T was like the current SRT division High Performance V8's.Later R/T was in trucks as the Dakota R/T in 1998 with the 360.
Furthermore when were these $300 that ran and drove/what year? In the 80's these were $1000 for a 1973 318 car that was in rough shape...Chevelle's or Mustangs were always cheaper than Chrysler products..I always paid top dollar for Mopars..But remember $300 in 1983 is the same as $1200 today..
The cheapest I paid was $1600 for a 73 318 Challenger that you could drive reliably..and looked decent this was 1985 that equals $4600 today so it was a lot of money especially making $4 per hour!
You couldnt get a Challenger Rt with a 318 . Since the R/T was a performance package you got the 383 big block as the base engine with optional engines being a 340, 440 six pack or 426 hemi . Shaker hood was optional on Challenger R/Ts .
@@1967davethewaveto your point! 1990 I was given a 340 out of a 1972 cuda just for the info on 1970s BURNT ORANGE 4406bbl 4 speed air grabber that the guy drove daily to work by the st. Louis airport! I could have had it for 500.00 for the engine or the car...I TOOK THE 340...impossible engine to find without the internet in one piece!
That 1970 RR 4406pack4speed air grabber burnt orange RR bench seat car went to a guy who had 3 hemi cars Scott Seivaking!! I think😢
IT WAS almost visually/rusty similar but it didnt have a sunroof lol! ALL ORIGINAL and 20 years later no rebuild daily driver DESTROYED 2ND GEAR