It's a very poorly understood chapter of Australian history Dennis. It doesn't fit the traditional narrative of bold colonialists in Sydney Cove, and the fact that Norfolk Island saved Sydney Cove more than a few times doesn't sit well with those whose minds are set on that classic narrative. In history no story is ever a single thread. Every story is woven from many threads and Norfolk Island is a very significant part of Australia's history that sadly has had its significance all but erased.
+Miss Jadie you should go & visit! It's a beautiful place. I've had people on my tours who were 1st Fleet descendants & they found it a very worthwhile trip. P.S. - sorry for the delay, RUclips had put your comment into my review box as possible spam & only just noticed it. My bad :)
Then they were the first settlers of Australia, as Norfolk Island is the true Australia under the Commonwealth Australian Constitution Act1900, Acts Interpretation Act 1901 section 2B, Australia is classed as, in a geographical sense, Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, & Cocos Keeling Island, Norfolk Island being the first to be settled upon. What we think is Australia is in fact NOT Australia at all, but Terra Australis. British Admiralty occupied & settled Norfolk Island, registered a company called Australia or The Commonwealth of Australia in Washington, then went & occupied Terra Australis which was already a sovereign land with First Nation Tribal People, of which is my ancestoral heritage, stole those lands killing scores of its sovereign inhabitants, settled there & it administered Terra Australis from Norfolk Island, by a company called Australia, it's British citizens foreign military occupants, and under International Law have absolutely no human rights whatsoever as an international occupyer, this stated in International Law. So all "Australian citizens" aren't Australian at all, & have no rights. The only rights of Terra Australis are those that denounce their citizenship & return to their birth land, Terra Australis, as sovereign man & woman. And First Nations Indigenous people's are a law and rights unto themselves. They don't teach you all that in school now do they.
I'm live in Norfolk on the east coast of England in a small town called Kings Lynn where Captain Cook and Captain Vancouver came from. We have statues of them at the old customs house. Just one point we say Norfolk as if the 2nd 'o' isnt there. Great video
+Louis Bell sorry just looked it up. Captain Cook was from Yorkshire a few miles further north. Always find it interesting the different places England has connections to
Norfolk Island is totally different to Norfolk and is now under threat of a takeover from Federal Government. They are essentially stealing the land from under the feet of the rightful owners and inhabitants. Governor General of Australia has no right on the island nor did he have that right to be appointed simply because they asked for a loan. This is an Unlawful forced takeover. Over 60% of the inhabitants voted against it irrespective of how those figures are used to justify various actions. regional.gov.au/territories/norfolk_island/administrator/ www.norfolkonlinenews.com/NON-government-news.html m.facebook.com/norfolkislandundersiege/photos/pb.1091421597567222.-2207520000.1463653130./1109483402427708/?type=3 This is just typical of anywhere the UK invades. the only difference is time.
Interesting that free hold farmers were forced to relocate in 1814 Imagine the anguish involved Happened to lots of settled farming peoples around the same time Looking into the history of Tartaria - scrubbed from history books after 1912 Look at old maps to see how large it was Eg Arcadia, USA - they did this separating men from women and boys and took them to ports that didn’t want them in the US and to France and England
It would have been heartbreaking Jane. If you can imagine that these people would have been in their early 20's when they started on Norfolk Isle. They were freed, given land grants, created farms, started families & then in their late 30's or early 40's (that's nearly old age back then) they have to go from the easy to farm sub-tropics to the harsh Tasmanian bush & start again!
Have u researched star forts? I think Norfolk Island may have been one in the forgotten past - the reef to the main entry being an old castle wall There have been world wide mud floods covering buildings in meters of mud. A lot of the castles had domed towers, like st Petersburg in Russia. People are reintroduced to these mud flooded areas and renovate what’s left of the old buildings, dig them out or reroof. So a lot of the buildings we have been told were built in the 1900’s are really a lot older I’ve been told there are lots of tunnels on the island, again a legacy of older times when levels were a lot different Shear cliffs used to be castle walls ... Look into mud flood and Tartaria ....
Hi @Taylorman. Norfolk Island was first settled by unknown Polynesians as far back as 800 years before Europeans. Captain Cook then re-discovered it in 1774. He suggested that the island might be useful for naval purposes so when the First Fleet arrived in Sydney in 1788 they had a second mission - settle Norfolk Island. This was done in March 1788 when (later to be Governor) King landed with six female and nine male convicts and seven free settlers. This was a prison farming community rather than an out & out prison. It is quite likely that the first free settler land grants were not in NSW as the present restricted historical narrative would have us believe but on Norfolk Island. This settlement was abandoned in 1814 for largely political reasons. The population during this period of settlement peaked at around 1,100 & this was a mix of prisoners, military & free settlers. The next period of settlement was purely a prison. It was actually the worst & most brutal in British colonial history. It was not intended to rehabilitate criminals but purely to punish them. Conditions were so horrible some mutineed knowing they would be executed as this was preferable to living in 'hell in the Pacific'. This period of settlement, generally called Second Settlement, went from 1824 to 1856. Most of the buildings remaining today are from this period. The Third Settlement started in 1856 and continues today. This was when the people of the Pitcairn Islands resettled on Norfolk Isle. These people were/are the descendents of the mutineers and others from the infamous Bounty of 'Mutiny on the Bounty' fame. Norfolk Island has been carefully excluded from the broader Australian historical narrative. Very little is ever mentioned in history texts and nothing is taught in history classes yet it was Norfolk Island that supplied food to the Sydney Cove colony and, without exaggeration, this saved Sydney from collapse & abandonment. Without Norfolk Island Australia may not have started it's development when it did. Norfolk Island is also the ONLY place where you can visit intact First Fleet buildings yet it is all but excluded from Australian history. You'll even hear 'historians' say that there are no First Fleet buildings left. Norfolk Island deserves a much more prominent place in the story of Australia but sadly that continues to be denied by our 'leaders'.
No no no those chickens were brought by Polynesian people they were the first humans in the pacific captain cook was not the great discoverer everything’s he is
Hi Juan, yes, there's a lot of ongoing discussion about that. I believe someone even landed a huge research grant to travel to all sorts of exotic places and sample chicken DNA to try to work out which ones came from where. I think the outcome was that the mix has become muddied over the centuries that it's difficult to make absolute statements. There is however a strong likelihood that the Polynesians did leave some chickens on the island. They left a few food plants & rats but the biggest legacy they left is the most mysterious. No-one knows how long they used the island for or to what level however First Fleet farmers did find an enormous area already totally cleared of trees and roots which looked to be land that hand been settled and cultivated. This was in the part of the island that today is still some of the best farming land. It may well be that there was a significant colony there for an extended time.
Wonderful Thanks, My Ancestors we’re First Settlement People, Sarah Gregory, Is Buried there. RIP. Sarah.
It's a very poorly understood chapter of Australian history Dennis.
It doesn't fit the traditional narrative of bold colonialists in Sydney Cove, and the fact that Norfolk Island saved Sydney Cove more than a few times doesn't sit well with those whose minds are set on that classic narrative.
In history no story is ever a single thread. Every story is woven from many threads and Norfolk Island is a very significant part of Australia's history that sadly has had its significance all but erased.
Great video extremely well presented
Thanks Trevor. Nice of you to say.
my 5th great grandparents were apart of this group ( the first settlers of Norfolk Island). I saw their name on the memorial stone thing
+Miss Jadie you should go & visit! It's a beautiful place. I've had people on my tours who were 1st Fleet descendants & they found it a very worthwhile trip.
P.S. - sorry for the delay, RUclips had put your comment into my review box as possible spam & only just noticed it. My bad :)
Then they were the first settlers of Australia, as Norfolk Island is the true Australia under the Commonwealth Australian Constitution Act1900, Acts Interpretation Act 1901 section 2B, Australia is classed as, in a geographical sense, Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, & Cocos Keeling Island, Norfolk Island being the first to be settled upon. What we think is Australia is in fact NOT Australia at all, but Terra Australis. British Admiralty occupied & settled Norfolk Island, registered a company called Australia or The Commonwealth of Australia in Washington, then went & occupied Terra Australis which was already a sovereign land with First Nation Tribal People, of which is my ancestoral heritage, stole those lands killing scores of its sovereign inhabitants, settled there & it administered Terra Australis from Norfolk Island, by a company called Australia, it's British citizens foreign military occupants, and under International Law have absolutely no human rights whatsoever as an international occupyer, this stated in International Law. So all "Australian citizens" aren't Australian at all, & have no rights. The only rights of Terra Australis are those that denounce their citizenship & return to their birth land, Terra Australis, as sovereign man & woman. And First Nations Indigenous people's are a law and rights unto themselves. They don't teach you all that in school now do they.
I'm live in Norfolk on the east coast of England in a small town called Kings Lynn where Captain Cook and Captain Vancouver came from. We have statues of them at the old customs house. Just one point we say Norfolk as if the 2nd 'o' isnt there. Great video
+Louis Bell sorry just looked it up. Captain Cook was from Yorkshire a few miles further north. Always find it interesting the different places England has connections to
+Louis Bell there's no denying our UK origins!
Norfolk Island is totally different to Norfolk and is now under threat of a takeover from Federal Government.
They are essentially stealing the land from under the feet of the rightful owners and inhabitants.
Governor General of Australia has no right on the island nor did he have that right to be appointed simply because they asked for a loan.
This is an Unlawful forced takeover. Over 60% of the inhabitants voted against it irrespective of how those figures are used to justify various actions.
regional.gov.au/territories/norfolk_island/administrator/
www.norfolkonlinenews.com/NON-government-news.html
m.facebook.com/norfolkislandundersiege/photos/pb.1091421597567222.-2207520000.1463653130./1109483402427708/?type=3
This is just typical of anywhere the UK invades. the only difference is time.
We also say Norfolk without the "o". I don't know why the presenter here is. All Australian pronounce it " norf'k
Interesting that free hold farmers were forced to relocate in 1814
Imagine the anguish involved
Happened to lots of settled farming peoples around the same time
Looking into the history of Tartaria - scrubbed from history books after 1912
Look at old maps to see how large it was
Eg Arcadia, USA - they did this separating men from women and boys and took them to ports that didn’t want them in the US and to France and England
It would have been heartbreaking Jane. If you can imagine that these people would have been in their early 20's when they started on Norfolk Isle. They were freed, given land grants, created farms, started families & then in their late 30's or early 40's (that's nearly old age back then) they have to go from the easy to farm sub-tropics to the harsh Tasmanian bush & start again!
Have u researched star forts?
I think Norfolk Island may have been one in the forgotten past - the reef to the main entry being an old castle wall
There have been world wide mud floods covering buildings in meters of mud. A lot of the castles had domed towers, like st Petersburg in Russia.
People are reintroduced to these mud flooded areas and renovate what’s left of the old buildings, dig them out or reroof.
So a lot of the buildings we have been told were built in the 1900’s are really a lot older
I’ve been told there are lots of tunnels on the island, again a legacy of older times when levels were a lot different
Shear cliffs used to be castle walls ...
Look into mud flood and Tartaria ....
That was a really interesting video. I did not know that Norfolk was an actual farming colony, just thought it was a prison.
It was a prison read up on it, the Australians are in a state of historic denial. The liberal government is attempting to rewrite history.
Hi @Taylorman. Norfolk Island was first settled by unknown Polynesians as far back as 800 years before Europeans.
Captain Cook then re-discovered it in 1774. He suggested that the island might be useful for naval purposes so when the First Fleet arrived in Sydney in 1788 they had a second mission - settle Norfolk Island.
This was done in March 1788 when (later to be Governor) King landed with six female and nine male convicts and seven free settlers.
This was a prison farming community rather than an out & out prison. It is quite likely that the first free settler land grants were not in NSW as the present restricted historical narrative would have us believe but on Norfolk Island.
This settlement was abandoned in 1814 for largely political reasons. The population during this period of settlement peaked at around 1,100 & this was a mix of prisoners, military & free settlers.
The next period of settlement was purely a prison. It was actually the worst & most brutal in British colonial history. It was not intended to rehabilitate criminals but purely to punish them. Conditions were so horrible some mutineed knowing they would be executed as this was preferable to living in 'hell in the Pacific'. This period of settlement, generally called Second Settlement, went from 1824 to 1856. Most of the buildings remaining today are from this period.
The Third Settlement started in 1856 and continues today. This was when the people of the Pitcairn Islands resettled on Norfolk Isle. These people were/are the descendents of the mutineers and others from the infamous Bounty of 'Mutiny on the Bounty' fame.
Norfolk Island has been carefully excluded from the broader Australian historical narrative. Very little is ever mentioned in history texts and nothing is taught in history classes yet it was Norfolk Island that supplied food to the Sydney Cove colony and, without exaggeration, this saved Sydney from collapse & abandonment. Without Norfolk Island Australia may not have started it's development when it did.
Norfolk Island is also the ONLY place where you can visit intact First Fleet buildings yet it is all but excluded from Australian history. You'll even hear 'historians' say that there are no First Fleet buildings left.
Norfolk Island deserves a much more prominent place in the story of Australia but sadly that continues to be denied by our 'leaders'.
No no no those chickens were brought by Polynesian people they were the first humans in the pacific captain cook was not the great discoverer everything’s he is
Hi Juan, yes, there's a lot of ongoing discussion about that.
I believe someone even landed a huge research grant to travel to all sorts of exotic places and sample chicken DNA to try to work out which ones came from where.
I think the outcome was that the mix has become muddied over the centuries that it's difficult to make absolute statements. There is however a strong likelihood that the Polynesians did leave some chickens on the island. They left a few food plants & rats but the biggest legacy they left is the most mysterious.
No-one knows how long they used the island for or to what level however First Fleet farmers did find an enormous area already totally cleared of trees and roots which looked to be land that hand been settled and cultivated. This was in the part of the island that today is still some of the best farming land. It may well be that there was a significant colony there for an extended time.