One more thing. You may know (or at least know of) Chris Olka, tubist for Seattle (or was the last I heard). I went to school with him at UCF, where he did his undergrad. That was the early 90s. Man how time flies! Thanks again.
It is a great tool but like I mention in the video, it is a little pricey and does require a good deal of practice and maybe a little instruction to really get the desired results. You can get it from Josef Böhm in Germany.
How come you don't lube your dent balls? Also, I don't see you "massaging" over the dents. You mention how dirty some of your tools are, but in my shop, there was always a clean as you go sort of ethic employed. Just an observation.....
Jason Kline Thanks for your comment. Massaging over the dents? hmm, there are a great many methods as to when an d how dent work is performed. Sometimes there is a good deal of hammer work needed, sometimes not so much. This instrument had a number of small dent that required mostly raising and then smoothing on the dent machine, So the amount of"massaging" was minimal. Maybe, if I do another series, I will touch more on the process with regard to tools and finer techniques involved. Video of the process might prove difficult and truth be told, might be seen by the average viewer as a tad bit esoteric. We try to stay on top of the maintenance but sometimes we are guilty of falling short. There is a lot going on in this shop at any given time and motivation to stop work and clean is often found in short supply. Good on you for being diligent in your shop maintenance, its a good habit. We do periodic maintenance to keep up on matters of cleaning and servicing . During such projects we often use bar soap to lubricate the tooling, other times I use Hyperlube. I did not go into such details with regard to the process. Sometimes additional lubrication is not needed and other times, depending on the order of the project, it is not desired.
Wow, I didn't expect a response! Afterwards, I thought about it, and realized that since you were sending the horn off to be replated, any wear from the dent machine would be negligable. And you sure did buff out any scratches! But with the extent of the creases in the bell, I assumed some lube would have helped the process. I was impressed with the facilities of your shop, and enjoyed the video. But you caught me out of line. I never had "my own shop". In fact, it has been almost 15 years since I worked in brass repair. Almost a lifetime ago it seems, but I had worked with Gary Underwood (Napbrit member and a pro woodwind specialist in Winter Park, Fl.). Later, I learned even more from Tom Kracmer (tuba player and owner of Cadence Music in Ft. Myers, Fl.). It was HIS shop, where we "cleaned as we went". He was/surely still is meticulous with attention to detail, and a perfectionist when it came to repairs-even on student horns! I worked with him at the "old store", but after I left, he moved to a bigger facility. At the time, our space restrictions demanded that we had to stay on top of everything, on a daily basis. Dirt, Grime and Filth would have (figuratively) suffocated us. I miss the world of instrument repair, and videos like yours remind me of a great time in my life, before marriage, kids, and the economy led me into other ventures. To date, working with Tom in that shop, I still consider one of the best jobs I ever had. I mentioned Gary Underwood though, because he had bought alot of tools and "shop stuff" second hand, as he built up his business. It was a valuable experience to see what happens when tools aren't properly cared for. My grandfather was a tool and die maker in NY. He and family joked that the tools and equipment in his barn were like his best friends. He had machines that were made in the 40s and 50s, and up until his death in the early 2000s, ran as well as they were intended when new! No doubt that shop maintenence is a crucial step towards ensuring the smooth flow of repairs and product that pass through it. Thanks for your attention. I will look out for more videos from you!
My shop uses 70/30 solid lead/tin solder. The flux is Nocorode paste.
One more thing. You may know (or at least know of) Chris Olka, tubist for Seattle (or was the last I heard). I went to school with him at UCF, where he did his undergrad. That was the early 90s. Man how time flies! Thanks again.
The guards are held in place for soldering with 16 gage steel wire.
It is a great tool but like I mention in the video, it is a little pricey and does require a good deal of practice and maybe a little instruction to really get the desired results. You can get it from Josef Böhm in Germany.
@DCOberloh English wheel
How do you fix a Baritone If the valves get stuck for a long time.
Where is the Guard shaping machine available?
I am a brass tech and I use my Z60 to shape them, but a specialized machine would make it a bit easier.
What material are those bands made out of that are holding the guard to the bow?
boa noit eu tem já vocação de consertar instrumentos e as isto estis vidios vc poderia me mandar cópias das ferramenta ou vidios aula obrigado
How come you don't lube your dent balls? Also, I don't see you "massaging" over the dents. You mention how dirty some of your tools are, but in my shop, there was always a clean as you go sort of ethic employed. Just an observation.....
Jason Kline Thanks for your comment. Massaging over the dents? hmm, there are a great many methods as to when an d how dent work is performed. Sometimes there is a good deal of hammer work needed, sometimes not so much. This instrument had a number of small dent that required mostly raising and then smoothing on the dent machine, So the amount of"massaging" was minimal. Maybe, if I do another series, I will touch more on the process with regard to tools and finer techniques involved. Video of the process might prove difficult and truth be told, might be seen by the average viewer as a tad bit esoteric. We try to stay on top of the maintenance but sometimes we are guilty of falling short. There is a lot going on in this shop at any given time and motivation to stop work and clean is often found in short supply. Good on you for being diligent in your shop maintenance, its a good habit. We do periodic maintenance to keep up on matters of cleaning and servicing . During such projects we often use bar soap to lubricate the tooling, other times I use Hyperlube. I did not go into such details with regard to the process. Sometimes additional lubrication is not needed and other times, depending on the order of the project, it is not desired.
Jason Kline By the way Jason, what shop do you work at?
Wow, I didn't expect a response! Afterwards, I thought about it, and realized that since you were sending the horn off to be replated, any wear from the dent machine would be negligable. And you sure did buff out any scratches! But with the extent of the creases in the bell, I assumed some lube would have helped the process. I was impressed with the facilities of your shop, and enjoyed the video. But you caught me out of line. I never had "my own shop". In fact, it has been almost 15 years since I worked in brass repair. Almost a lifetime ago it seems, but I had worked with Gary Underwood (Napbrit member and a pro woodwind specialist in Winter Park, Fl.). Later, I learned even more from Tom Kracmer (tuba player and owner of Cadence Music in Ft. Myers, Fl.). It was HIS shop, where we "cleaned as we went". He was/surely still is meticulous with attention to detail, and a perfectionist when it came to repairs-even on student horns! I worked with him at the "old store", but after I left, he moved to a bigger facility. At the time, our space restrictions demanded that we had to stay on top of everything, on a daily basis. Dirt, Grime and Filth would have (figuratively) suffocated us. I miss the world of instrument repair, and videos like yours remind me of a great time in my life, before marriage, kids, and the economy led me into other ventures. To date, working with Tom in that shop, I still consider one of the best jobs I ever had. I mentioned Gary Underwood though, because he had bought alot of tools and "shop stuff" second hand, as he built up his business. It was a valuable experience to see what happens when tools aren't properly cared for. My grandfather was a tool and die maker in NY. He and family joked that the tools and equipment in his barn were like his best friends. He had machines that were made in the 40s and 50s, and up until his death in the early 2000s, ran as well as they were intended when new! No doubt that shop maintenence is a crucial step towards ensuring the smooth flow of repairs and product that pass through it. Thanks for your attention. I will look out for more videos from you!
Sort of but not quite the same.
boa noit eu tem já vocação de consertar instrumentos e as isto estis vidios vc poderia me mandar cópias das ferramenta ou vidios aula obrigado