(139)The Klingon D7 Battlecruiser
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Klingon D7 Battlecruiser as first seen in Star Trek: The Original Series, to better understand it's place in Star Trek history... I hope you enjoy!
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Love that ship, such a cool design, so alien yet it is a ship that fits who the Klingon are. Designed to attack, fight, not skirmish, just attack.
It truly is a remarkable design!
Nice segment at the end explaining why harry Kim called that Ktinga a d-7 in voyager. It was a half refit d-7 shell with the refit parts installed.
Ah you caught that ;) Thank you ;)
I chalked that up to "D-7" and "K'T'inga" being different names for the same thing. We have this in real life, too. The names NATO uses for Soviet/Russian ship classes differ from those the Russian use. Ships of the Soviet Project 1164 "Atlant" class are called "Slava-class" by NATO. Which is probably because the USSR wouldn't keep NATO updated in their ship nomenclature. Likewise the Federation and Starfleet (at least during the time the D-7/K'T'inga made their appearance) wouldn't learn about new Klingon ship classes until they encounter them in space and have no clue what Klingons called them. So they would come up with a designation on their own. I'm also not sure the ships destroyed by V'ger were supposed to be a different class than the ships Kirk encountered during his five-year mission, mostly because - as far as I know - the production teams behind Star Trek didn't bother to go that far into details that wouldn't be mentioned or otherwise shown on screen.
While the Romulan Bird of Prey from TOS is my favorite antagonist's ship, the D7 is one bad-ass looking design. Matt Jeffries knocked it out of the part again! (the original U.S.S. Enterprise design being a grand slam...)
Completely agree!
I love the lethality and elegance of the k'tinga v variant
Lovely, finally someone that just doesn't ignore star trek the animated series
I really love this video about the Klingon ships! The D7 is definitely the backbone of the Klingon Empire and when the Ktinga was introduced in Star Trek the motion picture the audience erupted in applause for these updated battle cruisers! Great video as always I would love to see more alien ships🌟👍🖖❤
Thank you Kyle, Dooley Noted ;)
I agree: I always loved the D7 design on TOS but on my small CRT TV they appeared to have light blue tint which even as a child made me think "hmmm" that's kind of girly-girl for such an aggressive design". But when the 3 K'Tingas appeared at the beginning of TMS with that two-tone dark grey and abaltive armor, it reminded me of how bad-a$$, menacing, and dangerous the D7 could be.
In the opening TMS scene with the K'Tingas, you just have to love the Klingons. I guess they never heard of the old human saying "shoot first and ask questions later". They just shoot first and ask no questions at all. 😁
I love that the Klingons are so warrior focused that they stumbled into a more efficient and productive style of starship design than even the Federation. They don't mess around, if it works don't screw with it.
Lol so true lol
Excelsior class Disagrees
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Respect for the Klingon D7 Battle cruiser. The only ship, next to the Romulan Bird of Prey, that can match the Federation's Heavy cruisers and survive a confrontation and live to tell about it.
The D7 is great. I’ve been in love with the K’t’inga class since I first saw it in ST: The Motion Picture.
Both amazing designs, truly!
Me too. When it rolled and maneuvered it was a graceful work of art.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture was the first time I was introduced to the Klingon Empire and their starships. I'm a 90's baby, but instantly fell in love with the design and history of the D7 that I became a warrior that day when I saw it.
I've always loved the D-7 and it's predecessor the D-4
Me too!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Me, three!
Ditto. I loved the D5 as well. Hell, I loved the entire klingon navy.
The Empire never threw anything away. Some Houses were known to keep old D5's and D6's in their inventories for years. Which ment that when called to form a fleet the Klingons seemed to have a massive swarm of ships but many of them might be of dubious quality.
My absolute favorite starship in the entire Star Trek Mythos!!
K't'inga: Bringer of Destruction
I like it! 🤟😎
Thank you very much for this nice Video about D7
Glad you liked it!
This class has always been a fav and one mean Mo Fo. Love every variant of her. Great video and definitely Nerd Approved.
Much appreciated! And thank you for the continued support :)
4:30 Ahhh the stasis field. I was wondering why some Klingon ships in Starfleet Battles(board game in the late 70s) had that. Now I know.
Oh, I definitely want to see more like this! Well done!
Awesome, thank you! :)
Everyone seems to have forgotten that the original D7, as depicted in the the Original Series, was designated the K'TAGA CLASS BATTLECRUISER. I don't remember a translation.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the D'7 Battle Cruisers one of my all time favorite Startrek vessel designs indeed as well as it upgraded version of the K'Tinga class as well, And I myself own various different models of different sizes of these great two designs of these wonderful ships including the Romulan Stormbird version, And a job very nicely well done indeed Sir!👌.
Thank you again for some fine work, sir. I would love to see more Beta Canon on non-Federation ships. Go after the Romulan Bird of Prey, the Romulan Harpy, V'ger, or get into some Dominion beta stuff. Heck, go to the FASA RPG from the 80s, they had some nice ideas for things like "push it until it moves" Gorn ships. Thanks again, keep it up!
Noted! And there will be more, the problem is always getting the 3D Models of the ships!
Love the D7 and K'tinga. This beta history mixed with some of the alpha really helps flesh out the Klingons as a species as well, not just warriors but skilled engineers and scientists that has been alluded to in various episodes.
Keeping with the Klingon theme, would love a look at the various Bird of Prey models they had given most of the designs were similar but seemed to vary in size and configuration based on their purposes and era
My favorite scifi ship!
Great vid!!! Truly one of my favorite ships and you did a fantastic job!
Thank you very much! :)
Fantastic video glory to you and your housesss😊😊
For the EMPIRE~!
I think that’s the first time I’ve seen you use footage from the animated series. Thanks
Ive done it a few times before, but rarely because their isnt a lot of starship information contained withing the Animated Series. Personally I love it though, and was very happy in 2007 when they officially declared it to be canon! Even if a few of those episodes are really hard to justify as such ;)
it is as iconic as the constitution class😊
I actually like the Dinky Klingon battle cruiser design better than the original with kind of like Kennard flairs on the side of the front. The used them for triggers to shoot pellet's but it made the design look better.
D7/m Throne seeker still rocks I won many victories with it in star fleet battles on the table top.
The Klingon Bridge in Star Trek The Motion Picture has the Klingon Captain sitting forward so that he is the first to enter battle as a true hero, as opposed to the Federation bridge which has the Captain surrounded by his officers, like a Knight of the Round table motif. The Klingons use slave races, so the long neck restricts revolting slaves or Klingon mutineers access to the command module. Having the warp nacelles hanging downward makes the ship look threatening.
I was just watching your other d7 video when this came out lol
Well that was my entire plan ;) :P
i do hope we get to see klingons in strange new worlds with the original design
To this day the D-7 strikes fear in our hearts!
Indeed it does!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics rewatching TOS it gives me goose bumps and then there is the TMP
Yes, and then there's TMP! :)
B U T FUL!!! When he’s coming at ya head on it’s looks like a bulldog. Well don bravo! Ka’pla!!!
Fantastic.
I see that you used the TOS model instead of the Discovery model. Nice video
The D-7 never appeared assembled in Discovery just the blueprint showed up in S2. Discovery used the D-4
Sorry Jeffrey you are incorrect, The Klingon Ships that showed up to fight the Section 31 Armada were in FACT D7 Battlecruisers not D4!
The Venerable Grandpa Klingon ship.
Great video has always and awesome you started your alien's starships videos the Klingons are mine favorite Star Trek alien race 🖖
Thank you so much
I think it would be cool if you did the same treatment for the ships in the Klingon Academy game.
Hey, if you can find me 3d models of good enough quality to use, Id be happy to make them!
As I grew up in the '70's, when there was only Star Trek (no bloody "The Original Series"), and the animated series, as far as I'm concerned, the D7 is the best, and only, Klingon ship.
One problem, though, with the Klingons using cloaking technology: the Klingons are warriors. A true warrior would not cowardly hide from his enemies. He would attack immediately, fighting until victorious or dead. A Klingon would see hiding behind a cloak as the act of a Peta'Q, a dishonor to his house and to the entire Klingon empire. Granted, the whole "honorable warrior" aspect hadn't been created at the time, but how would the perception of a modern Klingon see use of a cloaking device?
'Nothing is more honorable than victory!'- ancient Klingon proverb...😉
The D-7 series is my #1 favorite starship of all time. I dont know what copyright process to use to get permission to use Star Trek lore, but I do have what I consider is a pretty good story that fits alongside canon, but has a different take. I hope to be able to publish it one day.
But I do so love this design and it became my #1 from the first moment I saw her.
I think the K'tinga battlecruiser could cause a lot of damage to an Imperial Star Destroyer.
That im not sure about as I am not a fan of Star Wars
"Chompin at the gagh" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yummy 😋
😋 LOL
I remember a number of years ago when you could get your hands on the deck plans of this ship. I think it was through FASA. Perhaps my memory may be wrong but my friends noticed something that I hadn't on those old deck plans. A remarkable lackage of toilet facilities. Can someone confirm (or deny) this possible memory of mine?
Yes. FASA did put out a set of deck plans. I owned a set. Interestingly, they were based on deck plans that were made much earlier. I think FASA simply acquired the rights to include this widely accepted, fan respected, original ancillary product. I also remember owning a set of deck plans for the Romulan Warbird, as depicted in the Original Series episode "Balance of Terror"'. However, I don't recall if it was from FASA ---- although they did have that feel.
As for toilet facilities on the D7, I do recall some. But they probably didn't require many because Klingons poop standing up ---- just kidding ---- DO NOT turn that into Beta Canon!
Klingon warriors don't need toilets, human. Our warships smell of victory!...😉🤮
@@charlestaylor253 No shi+?
One of my all time favorite non federation classes of ships
Though it's long neck always bugged me like
.it screams target me to seperate the command section from the rest of the ship
Well, there's one advantage to it: you could have heavier armor without adding as much weight as you would if you had to armor a thick section that way.
Yes, sort of like the Connies Neck and Pylons!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics exactly like the pylon and neck of the Constitution. Except the constitutions saucer was designed to be able to operate even tho limited without the engineering Hull. The D7 would be at a disadvantage if it's command section were ever severed from the main hull as it has no impulse engines and probably at best a thruster or two.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die!
Would this be the equivalent of the klingon version of the excelsior class?
No probably not, but that IS an interesting question! :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics
Meant in terms not of raw power but longevity 😊👍
P.S. 1 dislike is from the Romulan Praetor.
When are you going to do an episode of the interior of the D7.
When someone can make me the Interior 3d Model of the ship :P Of course, that costs a LOT more money ;)
In the original Series, the D-7 could go faster than Warp 8 and still be safe. The K'Tinga class was also a separate, much larger class.
Sorry you are incorrect on all fronts! A simple misinterpretation of the facts on screen on your part!
IMO durable doesn't come to mind. The command functions are separated from the main hull by a 10 foot high corridor.
The fuel pods in the wings are vulnerable to both top and bottom attacks.
Lord knows what the technical engineers had to deal with considering the warp field was skewed by the tilted s unit engines.
If the boom is detached it's the subjugated races in the engineering hull that has control of the powerful weapons.
Then one shot, let me repeat, ONE SHOT, from the USS Enterprise (a starfleet EXPLORATION vessel/ takes a D7 out of commission.
Then a cloaked vessel hits the Kitinga and it loses 100% of it's gravitational control.
Durable?? I'd rather ride a paper airplane.
LOL Lucky shots are meaningless... The D7 IS Durable, you are not thinking of the countless times in CANON that we've been told or seen that... The fact that the Enterprise hit the ship and all it did was turn off the gravity and make a small black mark, meanwhile the Enterprise is hit by 1 torpedo and it does straight through the ship, says it's durable!
If you're referring to the one-shot destruction of Kang's D-7 in TOS's 'Day of the Dove', you forget that she was already heavily damaged from the unknown previous encounter that Kang spoke of. After Kirk beamed over the survivors, Scotty stated the crewless hulk was leaking enough radiation, (probably drive plasma), to interfere with the Enterprise's sensors. There's no wonder she was destroyed with a single photon torpedo...
Correction, the D7 only has 10 decks. I've got the blueprints.
Sorry, there is NO correction... Just because you have a set of blueprints that says one thing, doesnt mean its true, as the majority of sources back up what is said in this video!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I have yet to see any source stating 18 decks. (aside from this video obviously)
The height of the ship is a different issue, thus if someone is looking at the ship's height and inferring the number of decks from that, they will be wrong in this case, because the warp nacelles and their pylons add significant height without adding any decks.
Then you need to do some actual research, like I did for this video, as you are just wanting not see it! And I stand behind the research, so sorry, your beliefs and hopes are not grounds for any correction as there is none to be had! Here are a few links which already disprove what you're saying, done with a quick google search! www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/klingon-d7-class-battle-cruiser-fasa-15mm-deck-plans.php wiki.bravofleet.com/index.php/D-7_Class www.ditl.org/ship-page.php?ClassID=klid7&ListID=Ships (and that's just a few) So in future, you might actually WANT to do some research before embarrassing yourself! Cya!
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K'tinga means bringer of Honour, not destruction.
Sorry you are incorrect, it is destruction... See the Novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Indeed I have chosen, to follow Beta Canon, since there is no alpha canon and to follow the creator of Star Trek :) Though I am very happy that you enjoy a variety of tales and sources :)
I had a bunch of models of the D7 doing the 1970s.
Niice me too! Well the early 80's :P