The BILLS CUT (almost) EVERYONE: THE END of an ERA in Buffalo
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Mike, Dan and Jenna talk Brandon Beane's busy day after he cut foundational players like Jordan Poyer, Tre White and Mitch Morse. The Buffalo Plus team discusses what the moves mean now for the Bills salary cap and their roster ahead.
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Poyer was a warrior!
Tre white, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, and Mitch Morse…. thank you for giving your all, and thank you guys for bringing the bills back to the playoff’s…. Everyone of you were all pros in my book…..thanks for all the great years and memories. I will continue to route for these guys where ever they go.
Yea I'll definitely be rooting* for them as well solid guys good careers
And Come Back!!!
Amen
I want to thank these excellent players and community leaders for their time in Buffalo.
I wish them all the best in their future, whether they remain in the NFL or choose a new career.
Poyer, Hyde, Tre, Mitch. THANK YOU for the memories gentlemen. 🍺
Agreed
Poyer, Tre, Hyde, Morse will forever be Buffalo Bills in our hearts.. great men, great players, great teammates. Good luck to everything they move on to next.
Go Bills 💥🔵🔴⚪
Total respect to Poyer and Morse from KC.
Poyer and Hyde never got the recognition they deserved from NFL media.
We Bills fans will always love them.
Hyde and Poyer: soup and sandwich; peanut butter and jelly.
@@henrys4838 The Fribish and the Frobish!
I loved watching that duo - I am grieving
They were both all pro
All of them will be miss. Thanks for all of them. 100% effort on the field and off the field. They will be part of ROUGH BUFF for life. Thanks for the great memories.
Hopefully they bring Mitch back 🙏
Prob not
Sadly, at age 30. and with his concussion history, I think his playing days are over
No that’s why they cut him
@@thebourg sometimes cut players decide to redo contracts
They did! Mitch Tribusky! Hahahaha
It will be sad to see mitch go. I felt he was the steady papa bear of the team.
KC never should have let him go.
"Gentlemen, you may abandon the ship. And may God help you!" Lol!
Poyer my guy needed him to train the new young dudes! Cant train heart tho he will be missed!
Poyer, Hyde and White deserve a statue at new Bills stadium.
For being the key pieces on a defense that collapsed down the stretch each of the last 3/4 years?
Seriously?
Nah
Nah, save the statues for the legends. The HOF'ers
Statues? Seriously?
Hello from east tn, go bills
What Beane did yesterday was necessary. Like it was mentioned in this podcast, KC did it just TWO years ago. How'd that work out? Posterity is a beautiful thing, and memories are too. Several of these players were the heart and fabric of this team, but the time had come. Especially with the cap situation. I personally have met Poyer - he is a relative of my cousin through marriage - and when we met him before a Bills game several years ago I was FLOORED at what a genuinely awesome guy he is. Even going out of his way to autograph a mini football for my nephew's little boy. Heck, we even had a chance to walk in the end zone with other players' family and friends in small groups with security watching after the game. He arranged that for us, which was super cool of him. So yea, he is MORE than just a great player, he is a great guy too, but he'll be fine. It sucks, but this is the nature of the game. These will be moves that most likely WILL pay off. I have a LOT of respect and confidence in Beane.
Dan, How you are "Holding Yourself" back, is amazing. We all know it was coming.
Moving on ... JA 17 makes these easy decisions. Mad respect for the players leaving!
If your o- line is no good, it doesn’t matter how good your W/R are!
Bills have a really good o line
@@robertschoelerman7496 It just got worse over the last 24 hours
Tell that to Kurt Warner n Larry Fitzgerald in 08 ILMAO 😂
This has been a long time coming. Glad these dudes were here to take us through the transition from a poor team to a power house. Our team has had guys on much longer than other clubs
Not really shocked was expecting these moves. The Mitch Morse move has me very worried from the leadership standpoint.
Why are people so surprised? They had to make big moves. And by the way, they may miss Morse's leadership, but I do not think that he was such a great center, especially for the money they were paying him, sorry.
The Morse cut is the only one that surprised me. He may not be an elite center, but he was the leader of that group and the guy who called protections and that will effect the offensive line next season.
sad but true..and its true for every team and can happen to any player....if Ray Lewis had started sucking for the Ravens, no matter how great his leadership is, if his production doesnt justify his salary, ya gotta cut him..
Well the idea here is to win games and to do that one has to release guys right before their play gets bad. Not after. I like these guys but no one wants to see them get pushed around out there on the field. The leadership needs on the Bills has changed with the status of the team. They don't need to build a culture, they need to maintain it.
This has been a crazy day - I am so sad with all the released players - 😭😭😭
Dan this is a good time for you to say “Salary Cap is not real”
LOL, until it is. Bills mortgaged their future. Chiefs never did.
Yes indeed!@@MrDavidknigge . Lets see what trick Beane has inside the hat, its a smart man
Yes, it's sad news for Bills Mafia. I hope and pray the 2024 season Buffalo Bills squad will emulate, honor, and find inspiration from those that made this franchise one step closer to the Lambardi trophy. Go Bills!! Always!
Leadership is a valid concern next season.
I have said this a number of times on Twitter when I was active . The NFL is a cold MF'ING Business. It's always about money.
Nothing surprises me anymore.
I mean when ur old and shitty what do you want the team to do
It's not just about money teams with old beat up rosters don't go to or win championships that's facts
@robertschoelerman7496 Yeah, look at the young Packers. Talent and cheap. It is a brutal business. Bill B. would draft someone in the second round, and next year, they would be gone. Move on fast.
"Kansas City did it and it worked." Yep, Baked Beane will always be chasing Kansas City.
So what was Buffalo supposed to do then? It was time honestly.
You build your team starting with the o-line.
Congrats on 30K subs.
Thank You for another great show
I'm shook
I was expecting both Poyer and White to be released because it just felt like it was time. Love both players and wish them a long happy life after football. I did not see the Morse cut coming at all though. I kind of feel like they will regret that decision sometime next year. Not that Morse was unreplaceable but he was fairly good and reliable. With all the injuries of the last 2 seasons I would think a guy like him would be safe roster wise. I guess we will see come September how much depth the O-line has.
Their defense has been a huge liableity the past two years. Defense has to get bigger and faster.
Very sad day to lose so many fan favs.... glad to see you all back together!
I can't believe these guys are all gone. I am so upset. I hope that we can get Poyer back with Hyde somehow, I just see way too many holes to fill, and them with a third young safety would be absolutely perfect for the Bills secondary. Same with Tre White, if we can get him back for a good deal it would be very good for solid depth. However, I am officially terrified about the experience on this defense... plays like the Poyer forced fumble to literally save the game against Kansas City are not going to happen. Penalty free games are going to be a thing of the past. I am sure that McDermott will craft a damn good team, but it will take time for him to build experience.
I am also terrified that this means that a first round cornerback is coming. I think that this would be a terrible move. We desperately need more pieces for Josh Allen. Let's give him the weapons he needs to DOMINATE. Let's get it done Buffalo!!!
Beane knows what he is doing patience,as long as JA 17 is upright were fine
Po has lost a step no need to bring him back I will forever be great full to po but we need to move on
As bills fan, I totally disagree with you, although if I had to bring anyone back it would be poyer, but I'm okay with him leaving, although these guys played hard, good, football, they're getting up there in age, and they can't stay healthy, need younger, fresher, bigger, stronger secondary, also Elam is going to be pretty good just wait
@drew5700 I agree with you Elam is a big part of the future
@@mikepannucio2315 yeah he has perfect build and athleticism to be very good, all I can remember is the great red zone pick he made against chiefs in the end zone, that was next level man
So many squandered opportunities. The fact these dudes leave here without a ring is a travesty.
I keep hearing everywhere >>> :KC did it, and" ...... This is a Good & Necessary thing. Tough, predictable, best thing moving forward !! Don't care what KC does. Take care of your own business.
We love the players ❤❤❤. Wishing them all the best 🙏🩵❤️
The Morse move is surprising, especially as he is entering his prime at his position.
He’s past his prime and 1 more concussion away from retirement.
Dude has 5-6 concussions, maybe more. I thought he was over-rated anyway.
We love everyone who played for the bills, if you are not winning, you are last, and the bills have been last for to long. It’s time to win!
I can give you 15 reasons that this is not true.
Salutations to Tre (I have your jersey, Love your hockey video), Mitch, and Jordan!!!!!!! Best to you all! Have great careers and wonderful lives!
It hurts even more knowing that we traded Tre White for Patrick Mahomes and got no SB out if it.
Holy crap what a day....
I do some game day work for the Bills and got very close with the Hyde family and friends. I have cervical issues myself, and remember when Aaron Williams had to retire prematurely due to invasive neck injuries. Micah has had a stellar career and has a young family. Although I would dearly miss them game day, I hope he can cope without football and enjoy a richly deserved, healthy retirement.
Especially sad about Poyer and Morse.
Not Tre? That man's smile and energy can light up any room he enters.
I agree with Jenna that they could end up taking an offensive lineman in the first round, particularly if a lot of wide receivers are off the board by the time we get to the 28th pick, and they feel lukewarm on the next tier of receivers
Bills Fans from my era will remember the day Andre Reed, Bruce Smith, and Thurman Thomas was cut on the same day. - Bills fans lost their minds
Making comparisons to the Patriots rebuilding their roster might have more credibility if the Bills had actually had a championship to boast of , but Buffalo is just on that long list of teams that were assembled for good runs but never reached the top of the mountain.
guys i am 70 yrs old and i have suffered every one of those years, this team is not good enough to make a Superbowl. I am sorry to see some players go but it is time to make these moves. I would like to see another Superbowl and our first win.
Let's go Buffalo. Hopefully we have a new fresh defense next season that can win us playoff games
Got to make the playoffs 1st :)
Bro we go every year u no this 6 an 6 to the 2nd seed wfutb
I will keep and always wear TreDay’s jersey. #27Forever
I for one will not be missing poyer blowing coverage
I believe that’s why Buffalo defense always had so many injuries. They brought all these old dinosaurs there. I’m glad to hear what they did.
As bills fan, although I like the moves bills are making, this is the case of the pat mahomes effect, bills better be looking for another kicker because bass ain't it
Let's not kid ourselves, they were cut for obvious reasons, I like that we are getting younger even if it sets us back a year or two.
Jordan Poyer was a beast nothing stopped him.
Um...13 seconds ring a bell?
@@atlasking6110
I was referring to him not letting anything stop him from playing games he is a strong minded person on and off the field.
dan doesnt want to admit the cap is real its not a move to get younger, they have no choice, look at the numbers they can only restructure and defer the cap hit so far, its like kicking the can down the road until you hit a wall.
Time for Dan to stop drinking the kool-aid about the cap isn’t real.
You could anticipate this happening with the last couple of player agreements.More players playing under their rookie contracts,more veterans being released/losing their jobs.The top 3 or 4 players will make the bulk of the salary cap going forward.Must draft well and sign good players on cap friendly contracts.
19:50 Mike's point on JA's leadership. NAILED IT!!! Let's see him elevate, and let's see Beane in his MOST critical off season of his tenure so far.
During the patriots dynasty they constantly shed older players. The Chiefs are doing the same thing, glad to hear the Bills are now doing it.
They are set with their starters on the OL!
Mike & Dan, Josh has been a Great Leader, not just a Good leader, ok? Never give the Philippines Bills Mafia False Expectati0n after The Revamp. Stay Healthy & Handsome, Men, take care of Jenna towards SB 59!
I'm a chiefs fan and I remember when the Chiefs got rid of some really good talent, or they retired, mostly when Andy Reid took over. Jamaal Charles... Tamba Hali... Justin Houston. Honestly things vastly improved as soon as they were gone. The young, overlooked talent can be hungrier for success and surprise you.
It's always Bills with our journalist trio!
Had to pause! Mike, IMO is correct! WR first round, if not, D line, WR 2nd round. I don't recall a center ever going first over all and not very many O line players even get picked in the first round. Since the current management has been there, they've made pretty good pics. As well as can be expected. I don't understand the knee jerk reaction that I'm sure half the fan base will annoyingly reflect on in the same way! This could have happened 2 yrs ago. Maybe we should have? No one is even talking about that. Safety is equal to Running back, with a longer shelf life, which means high supply and low demand...buyers market!.... It's how we got Poyer and Hyde in the first place! They are replaceable, and I agree that they are both ring of honor members, and that they should be along side each other! Ok I'm adding to this...you caught up to me!
Chocolate chip cookies and orange slices is like orange juice in an aluminum water bottle. 😖
This needed to happen, plus the only one of the bunch to get released that played above average last year was morse so they are not that big of a loss
I just hope we are still committed to getting the division and superbowl but you are not given wins feels like we got alot of questions coming they won't come together like last years team
Every mock draft I see has the Bills talking a WR in the 1st rd. I dont see how thats possible. They need to rebuild the defense and I would think it starts with this draft.
I heard the news about an hour ago and first chance I got to look online I was hoping that you guys had an overview online. Excellent analysis (as always). Poyer is a big loss! The man has heart! I like putting Poyer and Hyde on the Wall of Fame together. How cool would that be! I agree that Josh Allen picks it up a tad. He's our leader and we don't need someone with no bravado. BTW, "Ripping his pants in France". lol!
Youth & new faces will do this team well,
An exciting / motivational movement, new faces, new team, new year, moving on from the depressing stuff like tre white
Nothing compared to Bruce Thurman and Andre but a sad day for sure
Just like when those greats left, these departures hitting so hard, it is part of how we know what a great team we have.
My great respect for all they have contributed.
That was the day the 90s Bills died! End of an era, all on one day.
Seeing Thurman put on a dolphins jersey was sickening
The Commanders are doing it too. They’ve resigned 2 of 20 some Commanders free agents and signed 12 new players. Teams are revamping!
sure feels like the salary cap is real today
Im very confident in this organization's decisions, this is a long term plan Terry, Beane and McDermott are working on. I see a championship coming soon!👀
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!❤️💙🦬🏈
Yes ! find younger, faster guys -- The culture has to grow these guys. Be "The Guy" - Make the Play. But? Mitch being gone is scary. We need a pretty big guy to fill Mitch Morse's shoes. Change the front O-line act - More motion, Pulling Guards, faster Sweeps & more options on the RPOs. GO BILLS
Where are you buyin' that crack?
Long term plan......championship coming soon.....so which one is it?
we aint winning no damn championship as long as kc keeps making the playoffs and the bengals well never win it
While 2000 was very sad to see Reed, Thomas and Smith go, there were all well into their mid 30s and showing signs of decline. Here Morse is still a top center and massive leader, Jordan still can play and Tre is Tre. It’s hard to see them go. It’s not going to be the same for sure.
Im a Chiefs fan but this is the first I heard about Jordan Poyer cut, but understand it.
The Chiefs didn't purge their roster to get under the cap, they got "young" over a few seasons of great drafting.
They traded Hill. Let other players walk.
Bills did not purge their roster.
I remember you reporters giving Hyde and Po a hard time after 13 seconds
Exactly. They were soft in the biggest moments.
Don't cut Dan off after he says "cookies and orange slices"! He was about to roll into a valid opinion on the new status of the locker room. I wanted to hear the rest of his thought.
I noticed that too, totally rude by Mike. He tends to do that more than he should.
Morse is the one that surprised me! You could count on one hand his missed exchanges. I can't recall one missed com/bad play. He gives 110% every play! As much as I love Tre, he missed and got paid for 2 years. NOT his fault, the cookie just crumbled that way. I also think the world of Poyer and Hyde! They could go down as the all time best safety set in Bills history. They are starting to have injuries, they lost a step and a 1/2. In the field of opportunity it's plowing time again. This could be just the start. I have a feeling next year is going to look very different. I hope they get a fullback! A 6 yard bulldozer to keep #17 from doing the "tush push" and other things like that, and can block! Maybe throw the ball too. I don't want much LOL LOL. 8) --gary
I agree with Mike JA needs to be the ultimate leader of the team. This is Joshs team take the mantle and lead.
Jenna, nice to watch u as usual here n Philippines. Stay healthy & beautiful. Cheers!
I get the Tre White move because of his injuries but Poyer and Morse are talented guys who are also team Leaders. Who are these unamed young guys that are coming in?
All can be replaced.
That was a big house cleaning for Buffalo
With Allen Dawkins and taron extensions. We will end up with like 40 mill under the cap. Crazy.
None of the cut guys can’t be brought back at lower numbers. “Go test free agency. When you aren’t worth what you think you are, come on back.”
Mitch, mid. Micah and JPo now, mid. Tre hurt/recovering, mid. Neal, less than mid. Let’s tell it like it is. Nothing we cut today isn’t talent wise at or below replacement level at cheaper dollars…
Do you guys want to know what hurts? 45 years of no super bowl !!!!
It’s 58 years, 0 SBS IN 58 years of its existence. Bills missed appearing in sb1 after kc beat them to face GB and lost. Bills are a marker for futility unfortunately, and mismanagement.
Thats how TB12 and Mahommes have thier teams winning championships
Guess it's time to put my RUclips Sunday Ticket on pause for several years...
Smart tough dependable sounds like a good salespitch for the new Dodge RAMS 🤣 sorry i had to lol great podcast guys!
Wonder Mitch Morses market is or what he’s looking for in terms of $ amount in FA.
If Arizona didn’t have 6”5/310 Hjalte Froholdt I’d LOVE for AZ to add him but Froholdt is an elite dominant run blocker n has started greatly improving in pass protection.
Personally I think AZ will sign an elite OG like Michael Owenu who’s a BEAST vs the run to stack at RG next to RT Paris Johnson forming one of the scariest RG/RT Duos n the game moving Will Hernandez to LG n then drafting 6”8/330 Tyler Guyton to play LT. They should have a dominant top 5-10 OL n front of Murray next year.
Mitch's surprising but not that much given his concussion history there was a point two years ago where they were afraid if he got one more he was going to have to retire
These moves are all about salary cap first, and getting younger next. Please do not kid yourself, Bills were $50 million over the cap I need to be compliant by the start of the NFL new year. Exactly what New England has done and what Kansas City is doing now. BTW it is estimated the salary cap will be $300 million by 2027. Nice article by the Ringer laid the salary cap future out after the 2020 season. FYI Von is gone after next season and maybe Dawkins.
Mika to me will retire right after the league year. It's something to do with contract stuff that he needs to be cut or let the contract run out before he makes it public.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps up appearances in Buffalo his charity work and possibly the same kind of stuff as the 90s Bills players.
Crazy! These guys are buffalo!. I hope they know that the fans love them. I hate poyer is leaving bit mitch Morse! Come on. Don't mess with the line. Who's going to take that spot. The first 1 to jump in to defend josh everytime. We ante ever wining a superbowl. Doing a reset before we reached the goal. We wanted these guys to win with us when we finally got it.
I'm sad but forever hopeful. GO BILLS! 🦬
Go Bills!! 🔵🔴🏈🔥💯
Getting young is good but the Chiefs are already young and have a QB who's taken up 15% of the cap and won two SBs while doing so. So the Bills couldn't get past the Chiefs when they were facing all the issues the Bills are BEGINNING to face. Steep hill.