And why do they all sound so amazed when he says he's tired and start repeating "tired" in awe as if they just made first contact with an extra terrestrial?
They're at the Zaisan Hill World War II memorial in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia, facing north. On a rainy day in June or September. You can see the concrete stairs to the left. That is the Tuul river down there. The mountain to the right is a small part of Mount Bogd Khan Uul, a big mountain. If the camera were to move a bit to the left you would see the big city itself. The brick building is a toilet or small shop.
@o0micmac0o - You are correct. It's not a whistle, but an overtone. It is, however, often called a 'whistle overtone' because it sounds so much like a whistle. It's still just an overtone created from resonance in the airway and nasal passages. It's awesome when done well.
Didge playing, like many other things, does take a lot of practice and there are techniques to help with circular breathing and some of the other techniques. Didge playing is incredibly rewarding and beneficial to the health, even in the early stages of your learning. I've tried 'throat singing' too. I can do it... But it doesn't sound good.
Hey, I know this guy. His name is Enkhnaran. He used to be a very famous hoomii singer before it gave him heart problems. I lived in Mongolia for two years and we became good friends. I guess it's a small world here on RUclips! Plus tourists will be tourists. You don't have to rag on them because they don't know the culture.
A true display of culture differences. The man reveals a tradition thousands of years old out of kindness for some tourists. No thank you's, "one more song". Those people need to show a little more respect, especially if your in there country.
@pardelicatesse You're very welcome! I felt fortunate that he was willing to share one of his arts (I bought a drawing of a Mongolian horse that he did) on camera.
@MrMongolWolf How cool is that... a guy selling some paintings can do the throat singing... can define alto, thenor etc., And the main thing- he is not asking for money. Like You though he was.
Throat singing is not limited to Mongol culture. It in cultures found in and around the Steppes. Also the singer is Uyghur or Khazak Mongol (that hat is virtually worm exclusively by the Uyghurs and Kazakhs in Mongolia who are traditionally Muslims) which may also explain why his tune has similarties to Middle Eastern songs. However that is definatly in Mongolia (just outside Ulanbatar infact).
This is amazing! Thanks guys that you filmed this for those who cannot travel to see places and hear such songs in person. Congratulations! The beauty of world's cultures supersedes the vulgarity of other comments on this page.
For people from that region, it's totally normal for them, they're family has probably been doing it for generations. However, if you were to try it and you aren't from that region, I'd imagine it would be difficult and perhaps a bit painful. I remember my music teacher once talked about trying to learn this and coughing up blood O.o
Right on! Not everyone's so music crazy that they'll deliberately go hunting for new stuff, that's ok. And in the end there's gonna be music you like and music you don't, but it's prejudiced to think that can be determined by genre or style.
It's taken me since before Christmas but I can do this now too, just the first tone, which I think is called Kargyraa, and the one that followed it, the less throaty whistle type. But that last one is impossible, I cant get anywhere near the whistle pitch he and Kongar Dorzhu Ondar get. If you want to learn how to do this, do a search here on RUclips for overtone singing, yuichituba's video is really good. And a tip? Dont practice at home, people will laugh at first. I practice in my car
@MrMongolWolf How cool is that... a guy selling some paintings can do the throat singing... can define alto, thenor etc., And the main thing- he is not asking for money. Like You though he was... or should I say- Like You would have.
F*** S***, I used to make jokes about singing a base tone and a third above simultaneously, but I swear, I never thought it to be possible. He actually produced a base tone, whilst singing a high pitched melody. The guy is a freakin bagpipe!
yea, they are called overtones, and he is doing them throughout the entire video, the higher range is just more easily heard. Overtones are the basis behind this type of singing. it's awesome
RE: bilgyynei and rogerpaul: thank you both for providing the only 2 postings of any real value on this page of comments. The rest of you give "historians" a bad name among other academic fields.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps you didn't get the full story from this short video? I believe the man had been throat singing, then took the time to show different tones. After that, the kid asked for another song to get on his video camera.
Well, America isn't the only country with biased media. The media in my home country of Taiwan is probably even worse. And it's difficult to change the way you think once you've been influenced by such an environment. So don't blame the people. Things are changing slowly every generation for the better.
Yes, I think that 'harmonic' and 'overtone' can be used interchangeably in this context. You mention that 'strings' musicians are more familiar with the term 'harmonic'. I guess 'wind driven pipe' musicians have a greater tendancy to talk of 'overtones'. I play didge. The creation of these harmonic/overtone/formant based modulations of a base tone is done in a similar way in didge-playing.
Absolutely amazing. I have an Ellipsis Arts CD with a booklet that tries to teach an average person how to do this...really hard to learn and comprehend from text. I wonder if it can raw the throat after a while, though.
The same technique to produce the low fundamental in is used in certain styles of death metal vocals. Although I no longer listen to death metal, most of the genre is made up of HIGHLY technically involved music, just like North Asian throat singing. Although the two produce very different sentiments in people, they do both have positive effects on mood for some people and can both be enjoyable to listen to. You don't have to like it. Just respect the tastes of others.
@tyme4mike Exactly. I bet this talented throat singer wouldn't have a clue how to make a website. Or weld ships like I do. But then I know next to nothing of his talent. I love throat singing.
Oh yeah, and he's just this noble tribesman hanging out in his denim jacket singing for the hell of it. He's singing for them, and they're videotaping it. If he didn't want to, he wouldn't.
of course not, but generally when you go to other country, especially without tourist attractions (generally known) you are expected to at least have a understanding about it. If british would go i think they would not be chavs from the front of the liqour store, but people who go there with some goal. That's the difference with americans, (generally) they go to different countries expecting to meet ways of life similar to theirs, they are not trying to fully understand the essence of it.
@zik667 He doesn't need dollars otherwise he would have: 1. a cardboard sign 2. a spot on the left turning lane 3. long, dirty hair 4. unwashed clothing 5. Reek of piss 6. give you a million excuses why no one gives him a job. (like 'they' go around looking for ceo candidates on street corners....yeah.)
i didnt read all and the hated comment but here to just let you know that there is some more of him singing and he wasnt that mean :)cuz i first felt that way
Why be so hate filled? Why be so hasty to condemn people to death - death!- and for what? Asking to hear more of something they find new and fascinating? Imagine if the Mongolian singer was introduced to some music he was unfamiliar with. Do you think the other musician would be outraged if he asked to hear more? Sharing music with people doesn't deprive either of them of anything. Music is a doorway to understanding and peace, unlike your savage and uncultured comments.
I cant do the high pitched part, only the lower part. I just started throat singing out of nowhere walking to my house very inebriated last night. I would very much like to know how to make that other sound please help
Did your teacher smoke or have TB? Can you hum a single note? Its the same thing just that you open you mouth instead of keeping it closed. I curl my tongue tip about 1 cm behind my front teeth and kinda grimmace (to open mouth slightly) and relax my throat/tonsils a bit and it works. I think it works better trying to 'hum' an A-440. The overtones come out easier.
And why do they all sound so amazed when he says he's tired and start repeating "tired" in awe as if they just made first contact with an extra terrestrial?
They're at the Zaisan Hill World War II memorial in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia, facing north. On a rainy day in June or September. You can see the concrete stairs to the left. That is the Tuul river down there. The mountain to the right is a small part of Mount Bogd Khan Uul, a big mountain. If the camera were to move a bit to the left you would see the big city itself. The brick building is a toilet or small shop.
@o0micmac0o - You are correct. It's not a whistle, but an overtone. It is, however, often called a 'whistle overtone' because it sounds so much like a whistle. It's still just an overtone created from resonance in the airway and nasal passages. It's awesome when done well.
that guy is so sweet and modest despite being a HERO
His tenor was amazing! Many sounds simultaneously!
Didge playing, like many other things, does take a lot of practice and there are techniques to help with circular breathing and some of the other techniques. Didge playing is incredibly rewarding and beneficial to the health, even in the early stages of your learning. I've tried 'throat singing' too. I can do it... But it doesn't sound good.
Hey, I know this guy. His name is Enkhnaran. He used to be a very famous hoomii singer before it gave him heart problems. I lived in Mongolia for two years and we became good friends. I guess it's a small world here on RUclips! Plus tourists will be tourists. You don't have to rag on them because they don't know the culture.
Imagine being in Central Asia in 1210 and hearing that from over 20,000 approaching horsemen with bad intentions. Mongolians, they are awesome.
managrey, you can name 6 music genres... d'you want a medal? This man's a great throat singer
I'd just be like "Woah fuck, awesome. I'm going to be sung to death by badass high pitched mongols".
He is shining witha smile
Amazing voice, cute smile! :}
A true display of culture differences. The man reveals a tradition thousands of years old out of kindness for some tourists. No thank you's, "one more song". Those people need to show a little more respect, especially if your in there country.
@pardelicatesse You're very welcome! I felt fortunate that he was willing to share one of his arts (I bought a drawing of a Mongolian horse that he did) on camera.
@MrMongolWolf How cool is that... a guy selling some paintings can do the throat singing... can define alto, thenor etc., And the main thing- he is not asking for money.
Like You though he was.
Xraycam is a determined RUclips commenter. Keep up the good work xraycam
Throat singing is not limited to Mongol culture. It in cultures found in and around the Steppes. Also the singer is Uyghur or Khazak Mongol (that hat is virtually worm exclusively by the Uyghurs and Kazakhs in Mongolia who are traditionally Muslims) which may also explain why his tune has similarties to Middle Eastern songs. However that is definatly in Mongolia (just outside Ulanbatar infact).
incredible. it's hard to imagine the human body being capable of creating such tones.
This is amazing! Thanks guys that you filmed this for those who cannot travel to see places and hear such songs in person. Congratulations! The beauty of world's cultures supersedes the vulgarity of other comments on this page.
For people from that region, it's totally normal for them, they're family has probably been doing it for generations. However, if you were to try it and you aren't from that region, I'd imagine it would be difficult and perhaps a bit painful. I remember my music teacher once talked about trying to learn this and coughing up blood O.o
throat singing is awesome! He's clearly having a laugh too.
hi! we are from Almaty, Kazakhstan.
in 2012 we plan to go to the Gorny Altai and Mongolia in a car.
really great...his voice was like a multi part whiSTLE...!
@TurkicPrincess1
you're both right. the kazakhz are descendants from both turkic and mongolian tribes (the huns)
This is amazing. The style of singing is called sygyt throat whistling. its mongolian/tuvan throat singing.
Right on!
Not everyone's so music crazy that they'll deliberately go hunting for new stuff, that's ok. And in the end there's gonna be music you like and music you don't, but it's prejudiced to think that can be determined by genre or style.
that is fucking awesome. I wanna see more videos like this. screw the instruments, I wanna hear those amazing voices!
It's taken me since before Christmas but I can do this now too, just the first tone, which I think is called Kargyraa, and the one that followed it, the less throaty whistle type. But that last one is impossible, I cant get anywhere near the whistle pitch he and Kongar Dorzhu Ondar get.
If you want to learn how to do this, do a search here on RUclips for overtone singing, yuichituba's video is really good. And a tip? Dont practice at home, people will laugh at first. I practice in my car
OMG...the second sound he does, i always thought it was some kind of instrument, i could never imagine it was done by voice...it's amazing
if there was mongolian throat singer he would sing for them for whole day
@MrMongolWolf How cool is that... a guy selling some paintings can do the throat singing... can define alto, thenor etc., And the main thing- he is not asking for money.
Like You though he was... or should I say- Like You would have.
F*** S***, I used to make jokes about singing a base tone and a third above simultaneously, but I swear, I never thought it to be possible. He actually produced a base tone, whilst singing a high pitched melody. The guy is a freakin bagpipe!
never heard it so clear - sounds great
yea, they are called overtones, and he is doing them throughout the entire video, the higher range is just more easily heard. Overtones are the basis behind this type of singing. it's awesome
"He's tired, he's tired."
He's only been doing it for 30 seconds!!!
What a beautiful whistle.
minetruly It's not a whistle, moron.
This is my jam!
he looks shy,lovely man
Holy CRAP. That was unbelievable.
RE: bilgyynei and rogerpaul: thank you both for providing the only 2 postings of any real value on this page of comments. The rest of you give "historians" a bad name among other academic fields.
stunning
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps you didn't get the full story from this short video?
I believe the man had been throat singing, then took the time to show different tones. After that, the kid asked for another song to get on his video camera.
Well, America isn't the only country with biased media. The media in my home country of Taiwan is probably even worse.
And it's difficult to change the way you think once you've been influenced by such an environment. So don't blame the people. Things are changing slowly every generation for the better.
...Incredible.
Damn! How he can do that!? Amazing!
LOL the korean at the end "hey but then," hahaha
That is absolutely amazing!
human & the nature. it's the sound of nature, the purest music. thumbs up
Yes, I think that 'harmonic' and 'overtone' can be used interchangeably in this context.
You mention that 'strings' musicians are more familiar with the term 'harmonic'.
I guess 'wind driven pipe' musicians have a greater tendancy to talk of 'overtones'.
I play didge.
The creation of these harmonic/overtone/formant based modulations of a base tone is done in a similar way in didge-playing.
Absolutely amazing. I have an Ellipsis Arts CD with a booklet that tries to teach an average person how to do this...really hard to learn and comprehend from text. I wonder if it can raw the throat after a while, though.
The same technique to produce the low fundamental in is used in certain styles of death metal vocals. Although I no longer listen to death metal, most of the genre is made up of HIGHLY technically involved music, just like North Asian throat singing. Although the two produce very different sentiments in people, they do both have positive effects on mood for some people and can both be enjoyable to listen to.
You don't have to like it. Just respect the tastes of others.
the highest range made my skull vibrate
spectacular range lol not to mention the overtone singing
at the end he seems really ashamed how modest he is =)=)
thats just awesome!!!!!!
Indeed it was.
WHOA THAT IS AWESOME
that must've been terrifying..I mean, Mongolian Army was fierce!
Ohmygooeshhh, that's amayyzinngg.
@tyme4mike Exactly. I bet this talented throat singer wouldn't have a clue how to make a website. Or weld ships like I do. But then I know next to nothing of his talent. I love throat singing.
Hot damn! That's amazing!
Oh yeah, and he's just this noble tribesman hanging out in his denim jacket singing for the hell of it. He's singing for them, and they're videotaping it. If he didn't want to, he wouldn't.
Fantastic
I could only hear the overtone right at the very end, the last ~4 notes.
pretty sweet
sounds like a fun trip
the main point is that there are no throat singers in Turkey now or whatever, but there are plenty in Mongolia so deal with it.
of course not, but generally when you go to other country, especially without tourist attractions (generally known) you are expected to at least have a understanding about it. If british would go i think they would not be chavs from the front of the liqour store, but people who go there with some goal. That's the difference with americans, (generally) they go to different countries expecting to meet ways of life similar to theirs, they are not trying to fully understand the essence of it.
Really neat video.
@Vodkametalhead Thank you very much!
Isn't amazing how we are different bt still the same... :)
he was a lovely man i think...
It is Mongolian Huumii.
awesome!!!!
that was cool like Spain
Thats awesome!
superb...
its Huumii ,mongolian traditional and ancient song
was this half way up the steps to the soviet statue just outside UlaanBaatar? I remember this guy from when I was there
I think he said he was tired because he gets asked to do it all the time. And it does irritate the throat a bit. I know because I can so-so do it.
He has a hat like in kazakh. My be he is from Bayan Ogliy, a kazakh distrct in Mongolia..
@zik667 He doesn't need dollars otherwise he would have:
1. a cardboard sign
2. a spot on the left turning lane
3. long, dirty hair
4. unwashed clothing
5. Reek of piss
6. give you a million excuses why no one gives him a job.
(like 'they' go around looking for ceo candidates on street corners....yeah.)
Hahahah. He's like "But I don Wanna!"
made my skull vibrate
Yeah man you have right Long live Mongolia United Mongolia :D
AWESOME
ah, I wanna learn how to do this so bad!
i read it on a national geographic of course not all of them but they are nomads!!
That's the guy! He sells his artwork there.
OMG its amazing~~
I never knew that music was vocal O_o always thought it was probably some strange kind oninstrument. wow.
amazing dude :D
beauty ful....so sublime..
beautiful
i didnt read all and the hated comment but here to just let you know that there is some more of him singing and he wasnt that mean :)cuz i first felt that way
Why be so hate filled? Why be so hasty to condemn people to death - death!- and for what? Asking to hear more of something they find new and fascinating?
Imagine if the Mongolian singer was introduced to some music he was unfamiliar with. Do you think the other musician would be outraged if he asked to hear more?
Sharing music with people doesn't deprive either of them of anything. Music is a doorway to understanding and peace, unlike your savage and uncultured comments.
thats fucking sweet.
@Gunther81818 don't forget the yaks
...lots of yak action
I cant do the high pitched part, only the lower part. I just started throat singing out of nowhere walking to my house very inebriated last night. I would very much like to know how to make that other sound please help
Did your teacher smoke or have TB? Can you hum a single note? Its the same thing just that you open you mouth instead of keeping it closed. I curl my tongue tip about 1 cm behind my front teeth and kinda grimmace (to open mouth slightly) and relax my throat/tonsils a bit and it works. I think it works better trying to 'hum' an A-440. The overtones come out easier.
LOL he owned you at the end
Totally agree.