This situation is a prime situation for anyone who wants to learn how to succeed in investing. The most basic rule is buy when ppl are bearish, sell when they’re bullish and be okay if you miss a boom, don’t fall into fomo. Buying swsh alt arts if you want to make money is so foolish, ppl should be looking at undervalued SV cards at this point. Great video
Gotta start getting into the mind set of buying multiples when the price is low. That way you still have a your own card and can sell the extras and make a profit.
I’ve tried that, sometimes end up stuck with a card I don’t care much about lol. It’s perfect if it’s something you like too though. My problem anymore is that there is always something on my collection list that makes buying multiples difficult.
I stopped collecting around when crown zenith came out. Surprised to see how much fusion strike has appreciated recently. I used to buy fusion strike booster boxes cause they were dirt cheap lol around 2022, pulled my only vmax alt art in the espeon vmax from one of those boxes. The pull rates are trash in both fusion strike and evolving skies, prolly why the chase cards are booming right now. Glad i held onto my sw sh alt arts
I’ve always had the mindset of buy when everyone is selling, sell when everyone is buying. If you buy during the boom you’ve probably already missed the bus. Great content as always!
Don't let the market swings 100% dictate when you buy and sell. Every one of the popular mon alts (v or vmax) are going to he $500+ in 10 years. Pokemon is here to stay and SwSh alts are the best chase cards the hobby has ever seen. Gold stars were close but the rarity isn't even close to VMax alternates (1/3 vs 1/7 boxes) and the art isn't as good or varied in terms of illustrator.
Very good video! I’ve had some sad conversations with what I assume to be emotional kids ”investing” in Moonbreon because ”it will just keep climbing”, without any sort of brain activity behind the intentions. The saddest part is the common mentality of ”I’m not going to read all that, you’re probably just hating anyways”, after writing couple of paragraphs of some healthy perspective, similar points that were covered in this video. Some people need to be stung for them to learn
So everything that went up like crazy is coming back down a little bit. I started grabbing the low end ones now like Skuntank, Sandaconda, Greedent, Shadow Rider and the likes. I did get lucky to get Carizard for $110, Umbreon V for $76, Rayquaza V for $62 and the Lugia for $125 and a bunch of other deals before they popped off.
Top video! Adding to your point, buying a card for $1000 opens you up to the risk of losing $1000. Potential upside versus potential downside is a losing game to start with. Investing in singles should be fine if you can take advantage of low hype momentum and low potential downside!
For me the biggest proof for that is seeing how much the booster boxes from the SM era appreciated in comparison to the majority of the chase cards at the time which barely held the same value
Love the rubber band analogy! I agree, singles are risky investments, sealed product is safe and where about 90% of my investment dollars have gone. I feel alt arts are close to if not tapped out for the time being and that price bubble will soon pop a bit. It might be time to clear out some of the slabs that don’t have as much sentimental value and make some $$$ while we can
Another great video. As someone with what could be described as an addictive personality, your videos really help me put things into perspective before making rash decisions 👍
I was working on getting all the alts up until about 3 months ago. I only need 13 more but I'm going to wait to get the rest for now. Luckily I bought the gengar before it went up. And I personally am collecting them to hoard indefinitely. I plan to collect my singles for the forseeable future
Another important point to make is that pokemon is not declining. There are tons of people getting into the hobby daily and it wont stop. the demand will rise but unreasonable prices will be more apparent.. love to see more people in the hobby.
@@phillips.collectibles around one year ago, people were going crazy for tag team cards. TCGplayer's graphics are very explicite about that phenomenon and I believe the same thing will happen with SWSH's alt arts. Demand will eventually shift elsewhere and prices should stabilize.
This is an excellent video. Single cards are inherently risky - those are some incredible numbers from the other TCGs and there are similar stories from the vintage Pokémon boom too. There are times when it feels like a no brainer, and times when you have to pause for a moment. It can also be hard to seperate collecting from investing when it comes to singles.
What some of you don’t understand is how incredibly hard some of these cards are to pull … and if you’re lucky enough to pull it you still need to send it out and hope you get a grade 10 ..
It’s absolutely not hard to pull in the grand scheme of things. PSA10 pop is like 14k, these are extremely easy to acquire, and the hobby is not nearly big enough for that kind of pop to be below demand, unless there is a huge fomo wave, which this is. Even 3k pop is ”big” for Pokemon cards, the hobby is still very much in its infancy compred to something like the sports cards etc.
@@grydon6422then try pulling one for less than what they cost to buy as a single and get back to me. I’ve learned the hard way that these cards are DEFINITELY not easy to pull, I don’t care what the population says. Hundreds of packs to pull no big alt art
Thank for for those examples, a lot of new people are spending a lot of money I don’t think they would if they had a couple more years in the hobby, there’s always a new shiny card to chase
I just got my moonbreon back in a 9.5 from BGS. I am conflicted on whether to sell and buy another one or to keep it and ride it out. Thoughts anybody? 😅
I bought several of these cards between 4 and 12 months ago. Told myself I was investing but at the same time I love the cards and I’m starting to feel like an idiot for not selling any of them yet…😅
Do you think the slow decline of Pokémon go has a flow on impact on this hobby? I think we are at the floor of scarlet and violet now so it’s fun buying cheap Alts for a collection as new player under 40 bucks. Also one/two 151 booster box in to the closet will never hurt.
@@newjones1754I think the SIR that look like paintings are king. I have the Alakazam from 151, Skeledidge SIR from Evolved, and looking at that cheap illustration ninetails. All these under my 40 dollar limit on a single card. I just don’t want to collect stuff I don’t like that’s my problem. Because if it does dip I be left with basically cardboard. 😂 I want that 151 SIR blastoise but my fear of a reprint scares me.
Me and my 7 year old started during scarlet n violet and it's what we are focusing on. Although we had to get a Gengar vmax alt art and some Charizard rainbow vmax and shiny. But no need for others. We've pulled some big ones from $15 tins but it stays there.
I do like your take on this, however I don't know if it's a good 1 to 1 comparison between tcgs. There are other variables when it comes to different tcgs. I do think a lot of values are overpriced atm though. Earned my sub with this video though.
I have the blaziken vamp alt art. Do you recommend I sell it or I wait for a long time to see if the card continues to grow in value. Do you expect the card to decline over time or continue to rise?
Speaking of cycles, yeah people get older and move on from collecting. But also, young collectors who didnt have a chance at the big cards, umbreon, gengar rayquza, will also be looking to buy at some point.
I agree completely. Don't buy at the high. If you have these sell them, cash in, buy back in 6 months. If they go up at least you didn't lose. Better to be in the green than in the red.
Some of the 50th+ birthday boys and girls have got cash in their pockets in these very hard financial times due to the property boom seen by their parents
Waiting for espeon vmax to come down and it just keeps going, it’s only 100$ more for a psa 10 which is crazy might bite the bullet for a 10 as it’s for collecting but I have a number in mind I would buy it for and it’s not 400$ lol
Always buy low, and remember there’s nothing wrong with NM raw copies, or even a PSA 9… because collecting everything in a ten is suuuper unrealistic 😭
I was the same as you when I realised I should trust my gut more. Your low propensity for risk is genetic. So is mine. You can go past this though continuous exposure. You've said you go in all sorts of TCG so dare I say you don't have a "feel" for Pokemon yet. Where in AU are you btw? I'm a Sydney girl 😊
Well for starters, pokemon cards are so dirt cheap that you spend hundreds on cardboard and feels like it has no value, that's not fun. When you pull that rare card, it's exciting and worth a decent amount. I feel like a lot off SIR/AA pokemons cards are way under valued and sell way too cheap
You can't compare pokemon to any other TCG. Popularity isn't close. That said these alt arts are too expensive. I get why, English quality control is horrible and pull rates are tough. But anyone buying grades cards is a sucker imo anyway. Unless your getting an amazing deal you can't refuse buy raw if you collect. If you're in the flipping profit market GG's. The window for gains has already passed with top cards coming back down. But anyone buying a Gengar for 400 raw is a fool. You can buy a gold star for that. Or many other things. I've contented selling my alts now because prices are so high. I don't need the money either but if the offer is high enough I'd do it.
@@phillips.collectibles I got all psa 9s Rayquaza 400, gengar 340, lefeon 275, glaceon 300 this one is a 10, sylveon 200, espeon I pulled out of 16 mini c22 tins.
It’s eerily similar to what happened with Japanese cards, exactly the same time last year and look where that market is now.
Where is the market?
@@TacoLex down
@@TacoLexextremely red lmfao no one is investing in Japanese. You can get a PSA 10 Japanese giratins v for 400$
Could it be because Japan is in a recession?
@@findingeevee a factor in current prices yes, but doesn't explain last years boom.
For someone your size in terms of channel subscribers , you have INCREDIBLE production quality ! Keep up the great work
Appreciate that Ryan!
This situation is a prime situation for anyone who wants to learn how to succeed in investing. The most basic rule is buy when ppl are bearish, sell when they’re bullish and be okay if you miss a boom, don’t fall into fomo. Buying swsh alt arts if you want to make money is so foolish, ppl should be looking at undervalued SV cards at this point. Great video
absolutely correct for small gains. but missing a moonbreon at 300 is also a missing a moonbreon at 300nonetheless
This is the best explanation that ive seen about this alt art boom. Well played Phillip, keep it up
Appreciate that brother!
Gotta start getting into the mind set of buying multiples when the price is low. That way you still have a your own card and can sell the extras and make a profit.
Good strategy if you have the funds!
I’ve tried that, sometimes end up stuck with a card I don’t care much about lol. It’s perfect if it’s something you like too though. My problem anymore is that there is always something on my collection list that makes buying multiples difficult.
The fomo is crazy, Espeon vmax from fusion strike looks like the next one to get hit or CZ golds
Bro it went up 120$ yesterday
I stopped collecting around when crown zenith came out. Surprised to see how much fusion strike has appreciated recently. I used to buy fusion strike booster boxes cause they were dirt cheap lol around 2022, pulled my only vmax alt art in the espeon vmax from one of those boxes. The pull rates are trash in both fusion strike and evolving skies, prolly why the chase cards are booming right now. Glad i held onto my sw sh alt arts
I believe the train has already taken off for alt arts sword and shield. I'm buying Scarlet and Violet SIRs instead while they are cheap.
My problem with them is QC on them is horrendous. Totally feel you though
@@Dankestbuddethat’s why the PSA 10 in English will be worth more in the long run harder grading = more money.
I’ve always had the mindset of buy when everyone is selling, sell when everyone is buying. If you buy during the boom you’ve probably already missed the bus. Great content as always!
Very true!
Buy high sell low 💪🏽
Don't let the market swings 100% dictate when you buy and sell. Every one of the popular mon alts (v or vmax) are going to he $500+ in 10 years.
Pokemon is here to stay and SwSh alts are the best chase cards the hobby has ever seen. Gold stars were close but the rarity isn't even close to VMax alternates (1/3 vs 1/7 boxes) and the art isn't as good or varied in terms of illustrator.
@@RyanChannhuh lol
No shit
I’m with you on this. You have to be smart with your money in collectables and investments. It doesn’t matter if you have a lot to spend or a little.
That’s correct!
Very good video!
I’ve had some sad conversations with what I assume to be emotional kids ”investing” in Moonbreon because ”it will just keep climbing”, without any sort of brain activity behind the intentions. The saddest part is the common mentality of ”I’m not going to read all that, you’re probably just hating anyways”, after writing couple of paragraphs of some healthy perspective, similar points that were covered in this video.
Some people need to be stung for them to learn
It’s a free market with no base point. The base point is an illusion, it can be very volatile!
Great points as always! The rubberband is a great analogy!
Great that you think so!
So everything that went up like crazy is coming back down a little bit. I started grabbing the low end ones now like Skuntank, Sandaconda, Greedent, Shadow Rider and the likes. I did get lucky to get Carizard for $110, Umbreon V for $76, Rayquaza V for $62 and the Lugia for $125 and a bunch of other deals before they popped off.
Some great pickups!
This is why I’m selling mine now
@@newjones1754
No one is buying. So he made 0% profit.
Top video! Adding to your point, buying a card for $1000 opens you up to the risk of losing $1000. Potential upside versus potential downside is a losing game to start with. Investing in singles should be fine if you can take advantage of low hype momentum and low potential downside!
Yeah great point with that!
For me the biggest proof for that is seeing how much the booster boxes from the SM era appreciated in comparison to the majority of the chase cards at the time which barely held the same value
I always enjoy your content! Always keeping it genuine with great advice.
I appreciate that! Thanks for viewing Jotty
I appreciate the very sensible advice. Fomo is a crazy thing.
It’s pretty consistent, though I wonder how long the run can last
Love the rubber band analogy! I agree, singles are risky investments, sealed product is safe and where about 90% of my investment dollars have gone. I feel alt arts are close to if not tapped out for the time being and that price bubble will soon pop a bit. It might be time to clear out some of the slabs that don’t have as much sentimental value and make some $$$ while we can
Nice one Trevor. Yeah agreed! Good time to sell products you don’t love.
Another great video. As someone with what could be described as an addictive personality, your videos really help me put things into perspective before making rash decisions 👍
I was working on getting all the alts up until about 3 months ago. I only need 13 more but I'm going to wait to get the rest for now. Luckily I bought the gengar before it went up. And I personally am collecting them to hoard indefinitely. I plan to collect my singles for the forseeable future
Another important point to make is that pokemon is not declining. There are tons of people getting into the hobby daily and it wont stop. the demand will rise but unreasonable prices will be more apparent.. love to see more people in the hobby.
It’s great to see so many people entering
I really appreciate your insight on your videos. Your cool and collected mannerisms are a hit as well. Keep it up. I subbed!
Thanks for the sub! Welcome aboard
Special illustrations (not all) are some good deals right now
Wise words with the free market input, I feel like if you missed the alt arts it’s time to focus on SV SIRs
Agreed!
I agree with you, I'm selling my alt arts actually. If I want them back, I'll buy them later.
Same thing happened with Sun & Moon.
Nice one. When did you sell Sun & Moon?
@@phillips.collectibles around one year ago, people were going crazy for tag team cards.
TCGplayer's graphics are very explicite about that phenomenon and I believe the same thing will happen with SWSH's alt arts.
Demand will eventually shift elsewhere and prices should stabilize.
This is an excellent video. Single cards are inherently risky - those are some incredible numbers from the other TCGs and there are similar stories from the vintage Pokémon boom too. There are times when it feels like a no brainer, and times when you have to pause for a moment. It can also be hard to seperate collecting from investing when it comes to singles.
What some of you don’t understand is how incredibly hard some of these cards are to pull … and if you’re lucky enough to pull it you still need to send it out and hope you get a grade 10 ..
It’s absolutely not hard to pull in the grand scheme of things. PSA10 pop is like 14k, these are extremely easy to acquire, and the hobby is not nearly big enough for that kind of pop to be below demand, unless there is a huge fomo wave, which this is. Even 3k pop is ”big” for Pokemon cards, the hobby is still very much in its infancy compred to something like the sports cards etc.
@@grydon6422then try pulling one for less than what they cost to buy as a single and get back to me. I’ve learned the hard way that these cards are DEFINITELY not easy to pull, I don’t care what the population says. Hundreds of packs to pull no big alt art
I opened close to 1000 packs trying to pull the umbreon and never did …. Eventually I ended up buying the psa 10 for $1500
Thank for for those examples, a lot of new people are spending a lot of money I don’t think they would if they had a couple more years in the hobby, there’s always a new shiny card to chase
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. You have a great channel.
Thanks! It means a lot to hear that you enjoy the content.
I've literally pulled the Blaziken Vmax and got it graded. Came back today for PSA 10!
Curious if people think I should sell now or hold on?
What a PULL!
Alt art is 🔥💯 s&s has changed the game 🎉❤
Great video what sealed would you invest in right now? I'm thinking paldea evolved but keen to hear your thoughts!
Love Paldea Evolved!
I just got my moonbreon back in a 9.5 from BGS. I am conflicted on whether to sell and buy another one or to keep it and ride it out. Thoughts anybody? 😅
If you love it keep it!
Good take, Pokemon card investing is so crazy right now..
I bought several of these cards between 4 and 12 months ago. Told myself I was investing but at the same time I love the cards and I’m starting to feel like an idiot for not selling any of them yet…😅
You should unload some of them
Me too same mentality and decision but if you don’t need money why sell? 😂
I just saw a bunch of my ungraded alt arts and was having sellers remorse, but this is giving me reassurance
Do you think the slow decline of Pokémon go has a flow on impact on this hobby? I think we are at the floor of scarlet and violet now so it’s fun buying cheap Alts for a collection as new player under 40 bucks. Also one/two 151 booster box in to the closet will never hurt.
@@newjones1754I think the SIR that look like paintings are king. I have the Alakazam from 151, Skeledidge SIR from Evolved, and looking at that cheap illustration ninetails. All these under my 40 dollar limit on a single card. I just don’t want to collect stuff I don’t like that’s my problem. Because if it does dip I be left with basically cardboard. 😂 I want that 151 SIR blastoise but my fear of a reprint scares me.
Great video mate keep it up people just buy without understanding the market 👍
Another great video. Great advice as always.
Thanks again!
Me and my 7 year old started during scarlet n violet and it's what we are focusing on. Although we had to get a Gengar vmax alt art and some Charizard rainbow vmax and shiny. But no need for others. We've pulled some big ones from $15 tins but it stays there.
Alt arts are an easy flip for me. If you can buy at 60-70%, do it. why not? I bought an Umbreon for $600 and sold it for $800!
I do like your take on this, however I don't know if it's a good 1 to 1 comparison between tcgs. There are other variables when it comes to different tcgs. I do think a lot of values are overpriced atm though. Earned my sub with this video though.
Thanks for the sub and feedback! You make a good point I’ll keep that in mind.
I have the blaziken vamp alt art. Do you recommend I sell it or I wait for a long time to see if the card continues to grow in value. Do you expect the card to decline over time or continue to rise?
Lugia V has over 8k pop in a PSA 10 in case anyone was wondering.
Crazy numbers
If you can get the alt arts at 80% tcg would you buy?
I have a Moonbreon I pulled a yr ago, sell or grade then sell? I literally don't want it, I wanna know what to do with it.
Hey Mate, great flick as allways. Would you mind telling me which Mic you are using? Kind regards from germany :)
Not only is the Ghost Magician and Ghost Magician Girl hard to pull but they're very hard to grade.
Correct. Though price couldn’t hold!
Thanks for this upload, subscribed for the honesty. I keep buying ETB just on random whims....hmmm gotta be smarter eh?
Thanks for the sub! Have a healthy level of pace
Speaking of cycles, yeah people get older and move on from collecting. But also, young collectors who didnt have a chance at the big cards, umbreon, gengar rayquza, will also be looking to buy at some point.
My Charizard ex from power keepers PSA 10. Used to sell well over 2k now I'm lucky if there's a buyer at 1k.. tough market
I agree completely. Don't buy at the high. If you have these sell them, cash in, buy back in 6 months. If they go up at least you didn't lose. Better to be in the green than in the red.
Great advice as always.
Thanks for watching!
Sword&Shield Alternate Art🎨 looks way better than any vintage, the best Art 🎨 works throughout all Pokémon sets🎉..
For sure
I just want the moonbreon but damn its expensive
It’s really gone wild
I think the Dragon Ball Goku went down so much was because of the Vegeta God rare. Essentially the introduction to God rares.
Agreed and the price was unrealistic too. It went from a $100 card to 10k in 3 years
tq for the idea 👍🏻
hey man is the aerodactyl come in non holo just not sure if the one i have is real?
@@raukawasolomon1422 hey! there's only one version of the alt art and it is holo
@@phillips.collectibles thanks heaps love the content btw
I kinda relate to your 'rubber band' metaphor tbh
Tbh though Pokemon has always outperformed yugioh
Not really, and that doesn’t change the facts of this video even if it was true lol
In a lot of areas it does. Though the examples stay the same with hype era versus down era
Wait till bro sees espeon vmax that shits going to the moon
Some of the 50th+ birthday boys and girls have got cash in their pockets in these very hard financial times due to the property boom seen by their parents
It is people that talk
like you that cause prices to go down
This is happening at the moment aswell in DBS with the Realm of the Gods set in booster boxes and the Vegeta God Rare, currently a 6k card.
Waiting for espeon vmax to come down and it just keeps going, it’s only 100$ more for a psa 10 which is crazy might bite the bullet for a 10 as it’s for collecting but I have a number in mind I would buy it for and it’s not 400$ lol
I think the 10 is the only option
hot takes market buyouts are good for collectors because its helps them financially
If you owned it for sure!
Alt art are awesome that's why
Always buy low, and remember there’s nothing wrong with NM raw copies, or even a PSA 9… because collecting everything in a ten is suuuper unrealistic 😭
I’m focusing on scarlet and violet secrete illustration rares while they are low and a complete collection of them in a few years will be a goldmine
Look at sun and moon alt arts and cards period sooner or later the boom stop and some cards stopped going up and settled and some came back down
It happens!
It's like stock market.
We need to study how to valuation
People have been saying this for 3 years eventualy you will be wright
I'm not sure what's going to happen , prices should come down , but we never experienced a time in the hobby like we did with s&s.
I was the same as you when I realised I should trust my gut more. Your low propensity for risk is genetic. So is mine. You can go past this though continuous exposure. You've said you go in all sorts of TCG so dare I say you don't have a "feel" for Pokemon yet.
Where in AU are you btw? I'm a Sydney girl 😊
Eventually evolving skies will become a 200k box. Might take close to 100 years though lol
The awakened power black label sold for 90k at its peak
That’s wild!!
It’s a good time to buy vintage
true! nice vid
Miss out then
There are so nice comments on this video 🫨🌟
They are!
the alts alr calming down though
Some are for sure!
I see this pop the same way I saw the tag team card hype died down after last year
My mindset is simple, just buy what you like. I collect alt arts of only charizards, pikachu and the pokemons I use in my deck/s.
I wasn’t buying lugia v at 125 definitely not buying at 250
125 was a great price though!
Japanese is the play right now. Mad fear
Great time!
Some cards will only climb ie: Lugia
Well for starters, pokemon cards are so dirt cheap that you spend hundreds on cardboard and feels like it has no value, that's not fun. When you pull that rare card, it's exciting and worth a decent amount. I feel like a lot off SIR/AA pokemons cards are way under valued and sell way too cheap
Especially when you buy a booster box and you pull a pretty card that's worth $7.99😂
I agree and disagree. One factory you need to consider is Pokemon is a whole different animal compared to other tcg such as yugioh and dragonball.
Fine. I will buy them all so you won't get any.
You can't compare pokemon to any other TCG. Popularity isn't close. That said these alt arts are too expensive. I get why, English quality control is horrible and pull rates are tough. But anyone buying grades cards is a sucker imo anyway. Unless your getting an amazing deal you can't refuse buy raw if you collect. If you're in the flipping profit market GG's. The window for gains has already passed with top cards coming back down. But anyone buying a Gengar for 400 raw is a fool. You can buy a gold star for that. Or many other things. I've contented selling my alts now because prices are so high. I don't need the money either but if the offer is high enough I'd do it.
I'm buying alt arts. Almost every single set from SW&SH still as of today have undervalued alt arts for under $24 with low PSA pop.
which one are your favorites?
Medichan V alt art from Evo Skies, and Ice Rider Calyrex V alt from Chilling Reign@@SonderIta
Medicham V alt art, Ice Rider Calyrex V alt art @@SonderIta
@@SonderIta Medicham V Alt Arts, Ice Rider Calyrex V alt art. Happy Colleting & investing. 🔥
Well if they selll for like the charizard i will see and i hope they can reach a good value
As a Pokemon reseller, respectfully silence!!! 🤣
Thanks
No problem
There is also fomo when it comes to youtube creators thumbnails 😂😂
all about supply and demand
I fomod and bought all the alt arts from evo except the umbreon cuz 500 is where i draw the line lol
What price did you buy at?
@@phillips.collectibles
I got all psa 9s
Rayquaza 400, gengar 340, lefeon 275, glaceon 300 this one is a 10, sylveon 200, espeon I pulled out of 16 mini c22 tins.
Buying Japanese cuz everyone’s looking at English ^_^
Modern japanese print lines on 151 and Cyber judge Sar's is a thing to be careful with
@@fernandomarroquin8901still better looking than English ahha
umbreon Vmax overratted its alot of other ALT ART thats way better
I honestly think theyll be the new gold stars buuuuut im also an idiot
Gold Stars are the next Gold Stars. Alts Arts will not be able to hold a candle to them over the long-term.