Reverse the shifter throw and you will have it right, Shift should follow g load. One the gas upshift by pulling back. On the brakes tap forward to downshift. Just like the older Formula type cars.
The builder himself forgot at 4:50! (Not something you want to do at a redline upshift, lol :)) Maybe there is some reason why it has to be the wrong way round. What an awesome car.
A car with the lightness, precision, and "feel" of the Elise should always have had an engine such as this. Now this one is finally complete! Nice work, and great video thanks.
Besides everything just pulling up to a red light and reving the turbo'd inline 4cyl street bike motor is worth having the car. The sound of those motors is incredible it sounds like a formula 1 engine. I have many street bikes and the engine sound is just amazing.
Man, I love this concept. The high revving, ultra quick revving Hayabusa engine suits that lightweight go-cart-like Lotus to a T. Here's a controversial approach: I think it would be even more fun without the turbo. You said you're only using a quarter inch of throttle... without the turbo you could get into it more and have even more fun driving it. The only other change I'd make would be to either adapt paddle shifters or reverse the pattern as others have suggested. Please keep us updated on developments to this car. Would love to see a POV camera view of full acceleration.
Robert Smith The Turbo needs to stay. It’s what gives this car personality. This was his first time driving it of course he isn’t going to mash the throttle everywhere but on the drag strip or a track the turbo will prove worth while.
I also believe that a standard busa engine would work better This car is not underpowered for its scope and the turbo/intercooler setup ads weight which is the enemy of this car
@@mmoplayerful1 Turbos muffle the exhaust note and create throttle lag. So it would likely have more "personality" without it. One more thing to go wrong too. But I'm usually on the side of normally aspirated so I might be biased.
Think this chaps one of the "brummies making stuff in't shed" Jeremy Clarkson loved so much. Great work though ZCars,looks fun but sadly it's fun I'll never experience so thanks for the video and keep those mods coming.
The engineering on that Lotus looks superb. I think Colin Chapman would approve he was always after saving weight. Oh well back to me Clio and dream Thanks
Great work! I would love to put this motor or a V8 Hayabusa in my miata. On a side note: I know this is an old vid so I have to comment on the quality of the mic. You have all these new Utubers today (2023)doing videos in cars like this and all you hear is wind noise and the engine and not the driver speaking. Maybe cuz it's a wired mic versus the Bluetooth ones everyone uses today or maybe it's just mic placement. Either way nicely done!
Badass little ride. I am particularly interested in the mechanical bits of this conversion. The transfer case for the differential? Can this be used in a front engine / rear drive application ? How does one go about making it work?
It is the motorcycle transmission, the transmissions on most bikes are contained in the engine, the unit behind the engines not a gearbox, it’s transfer case/diff mated to the output shaft from the bikes gearbox.
so you drive the car on public streets only using partial throttle at the end of the video you show it on the track going around one corner scrap the whole video with you talking and go spend that amount of time filming at the track please
a guy near me is building a kit version of the elise hes useing 2 ninja bike engines to power his crazy car,be very cool when hes finnished it dont know if hes direct drive to both back wheels or what,but seen the tube frame and engines allso the runing gearand body before the lockdown
I think it'd be cool to make a custom quadrofolio variant of the alfa romeo 4c with this set up. Same engine and power out of a lighter, c.fiber tub, smaller sized car. I'm guessing it'd be just another level more fun!
Surgical That's only IF you are always matting the gas. If you are ginger footed on the take off, and mat it as you get up to speed, you will accelerate plenty fast and have gobs of power for high-speed maneuvering. If you think having 400hp in a light car would make it useless, that's because that's how you would drive it.
+Richard R 😑 Really dude. Have an exotic sports car... Do an engine swap and don't go heavy on the gas? If you are "gingerly" going to step on the gas do what he did... Keep it under 300hp. I've been in a car where the driver was able to make the wheels spin just punching it from 50 with decently new tires.
You should really change the shift direction. It’s opposite of what makes since. I saw the slip you made and pulled down into a lower gear instead of up. Other that that. Beautiful car. Nice build.
@@1dariansdad depends on your orientation. A standard bike has you twist your ankle up and back to shift up, down and forward to shift down unless it's a gp shifter which isn't likely.
Looks like a great conversion. But what's the advantage of the bike engine over doing a turbo conversion on the original engine? Could you not get same/more power for less work from the Elise engine?
You could definitely make more power on the stock engine, but my guess is that you might run into weight/packaging issues. Also motorcycle engines just sounds better.
Lots of comments about the gearshifter so i will point out the problem of a throttle that gets on booste with only a quarter inch of travel. That is poor throttle regulation, your going to find that very difficult to drive at its limits, particularily on an uneven surface.
What ,why? Your very immature It would be a POS 1- you would have to stretch it to fit motor and box, 2- Be to heavy to handle properly.3 Only be good for a straight line, that's if the front didn't overtake you. 4-This configuration with a bjke engine would run rings around your 2JZ.Oh and PS Barra's are a better engine.
That gear shift is asking for a wrong direction shift in the heat of the moment!! Get it the right way round before the conrods see daylight!! for the safety of the engine, driver and other road users!! Other than that nice job!!
Shame your not in the US, your little lotus are a bit expensive here but would love to do a 2nd generation M R 2 ,light weight good looking car , maybe you could come up with a bolt on package for small cars ? Just an idea , would have loved to seen what that little bugger would do on the track ! 11/11/18 - Mr. Dave. 👍🏼
Looks amazing but its crazy to mess with gear changing convention like that, it's simply not intuitive and on the track would detract from what you should be thinking about.
Reverse the shifter throw and you will have it right, Shift should follow g load. One the gas upshift by pulling back. On the brakes tap forward to downshift. Just like the older Formula type cars.
Totally agree...
exactly what i was thinking
The builder himself forgot at 4:50! (Not something you want to do at a redline upshift, lol :)) Maybe there is some reason why it has to be the wrong way round. What an awesome car.
Paddle shift!
it really isn't that hard to make a piece to reverse the throw, just have to do a little engineering
A car with the lightness, precision, and "feel" of the Elise should always have had an engine such as this. Now this one is finally complete! Nice work, and great video thanks.
I’m with other posters, I’d prefer the sequence to be back for up-shifts and forward for down.
You should sell the conversion kit.
that turbo sounds mental
Besides everything just pulling up to a red light and reving the turbo'd inline 4cyl street bike motor is worth having the car. The sound of those motors is incredible it sounds like a formula 1 engine. I have many street bikes and the engine sound is just amazing.
really nicely done set up,looks perfectly balanced,best use of a bussa engine i have seen yet
What a quality build. Thats 250whp of pure fun
Man, I love this concept. The high revving, ultra quick revving Hayabusa engine suits that lightweight go-cart-like Lotus to a T. Here's a controversial approach: I think it would be even more fun without the turbo. You said you're only using a quarter inch of throttle... without the turbo you could get into it more and have even more fun driving it. The only other change I'd make would be to either adapt paddle shifters or reverse the pattern as others have suggested.
Please keep us updated on developments to this car. Would love to see a POV camera view of full acceleration.
Robert Smith The Turbo needs to stay. It’s what gives this car personality. This was his first time driving it of course he isn’t going to mash the throttle everywhere but on the drag strip or a track the turbo will prove worth while.
I also believe that a standard busa engine would work better
This car is not underpowered for its scope and the turbo/intercooler setup ads weight which is the enemy of this car
@@mmoplayerful1 Turbos muffle the exhaust note and create throttle lag. So it would likely have more "personality" without it. One more thing to go wrong too. But I'm usually on the side of normally aspirated so I might be biased.
Great bit of insight, the man knows his stuff and he's built a great machine
Quality build.... you guys should sell them converted.. alot of cash to make
Think this chaps one of the "brummies making stuff in't shed" Jeremy Clarkson loved so much.
Great work though ZCars,looks fun but sadly it's fun I'll never experience so thanks for the video and keep those mods coming.
Gear shift action needs to be reversed. Other than that: The idea of it makes SO much sense. Chapman would approve me thinks.
I did not expect that voice, from that man.
The engineering on that Lotus looks superb. I think Colin Chapman would approve he was always after saving weight. Oh well back to me Clio and dream
Thanks
Can't wait for my mid-life crisis build of an Elise with the R2.8 Cummins. People gonna hate, but I think it'll be great.
Great work! I would love to put this motor or a V8 Hayabusa in my miata. On a side note: I know this is an old vid so I have to comment on the quality of the mic. You have all these new Utubers today (2023)doing videos in cars like this and all you hear is wind noise and the engine and not the driver speaking. Maybe cuz it's a wired mic versus the Bluetooth ones everyone uses today or maybe it's just mic placement. Either way nicely done!
Engine sounds lovely as the revs build
***Better then the factory. Hats off my friend. Please keep up the good work.***
A great video for defensive driving coaches.
im curious about the 0-60 time on it. and the 1/4 mile time/mph
been following Z cars from day one, and another excellent creation, well done lads,
Badass little ride. I am particularly interested in the mechanical bits of this conversion. The transfer case for the differential? Can this be used in a front engine / rear drive application ? How does one go about making it work?
I'd love to have these kind of Elise. Great job.
That my friend is a kool little pocket rocket great build ..... bless...
He’s turbo’d his eyebrows too...
would love to know in detail how they adapted the hayabusa trans to the gear box.
Considering the behavior of the shifter... I'm confused too. Because it behaves like the motorcycle trans.
It is the motorcycle transmission, the transmissions on most bikes are contained in the engine, the unit behind the engines not a gearbox, it’s transfer case/diff mated to the output shaft from the bikes gearbox.
LOL @ 4:50.. "clutchless gear changes... -downshift- (aww fuck...) - clutchless gear changes.."
I searched 4 years
and i quote...... " a big box fing" performance engineering terms, in its finest there.
🤣...true
And to prove the point about the shifter, he downshifts when he meant to upshot at about 5 minutes in!
That sound is ferocious.
Why do so many people making these kinds of projects install the gear lever backwards
Because they want to .... How's your project coming along ?
That has me wondering as well... Having to move the stick forward to downshift makes more sense
Wonder how you manage to drive a manual with gears going front and back, your mind must expolde
Rob Ferreira
Only BMW do opposite to everyone else, forward gears are by pulling backwards just like the Mini’s these guys also reduce..
Excellent as normal, however, you have to reverse the action of the gear stick!
David Dewar It's a pretty simple conversion
I love the mini cooper S you guys did with turbo civic engine ( ;
Nice to see Bob Carolgees.. doing well after spit the dog.. gigs lol
Huuuuuur-PUT !
imagine a hayabusa engine in a Nissan S cargo
that would be sick
Well done man!! That's a class conversion yeeh. Cheers.
Interesting video.
Has the typical Hayabusa mechanical whine.
so you drive the car on public streets only using partial throttle at the end of the video you show it on the track going around one corner scrap the whole video with you talking and go spend that amount of time filming at the track please
You guys take really neat cars and make them perfect.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this engine on the next space shuttle.
Its a beautiful motor, I miss my 'Busa.
Actually a very good video
That's awesome work you guys do! :-) :-) As a well equipped engineer in take my hat off to the whole team. very much enjoyed the video.
love the radio in the dash haha vary cool car prob alot of fun for sure
It'll be like sitting beside him on the bus, hip to hip, in that car.
¿an Elise chasis with a water intercooled busa
and you get it to be lighter?
man, this must be the perfect car
Great video on a nice vehicle. After watching this, I remembered the movie: "Cloudy, with a chance of meatballs", for some strange reason ; )
a guy near me is building a kit version of the elise hes useing 2 ninja bike engines to power his crazy car,be very cool when hes finnished it dont know if hes direct drive to both back wheels or what,but seen the tube frame and engines allso the runing gearand body before the lockdown
I've seen some Hayabusa engine projects for car engine swaps to land speed etc 500 to 900 horsepower turbos
I really want to do this to my CRX.
Go for it mate . Its worth tryin!
I prefer the gear stick, makes sense up forward down backwards
Awesome !!! Absolutely awesome !!! Not convinced on those excessive eye brows though.
I think it'd be cool to make a custom quadrofolio variant of the alfa romeo 4c with this set up. Same engine and power out of a lighter, c.fiber tub, smaller sized car. I'm guessing it'd be just another level more fun!
OMG...This is what dreams are made of !
It will be a good idea to make everyone aware that 3000 rpm for a bike engine is quite low where 3000 rpm for a car engine is mid to high
Put one of these in a 1st gen MR2 :-O
The best bit is, you can easily push that busa motor out to 400WHP. That would make this car damn near ludicrous.
It would be too much for that car. You would just spin your tires and get no where.
Surgical
That's only IF you are always matting the gas. If you are ginger footed on the take off, and mat it as you get up to speed, you will accelerate plenty fast and have gobs of power for high-speed maneuvering. If you think having 400hp in a light car would make it useless, that's because that's how you would drive it.
+Richard R 😑
Really dude. Have an exotic sports car... Do an engine swap and don't go heavy on the gas?
If you are "gingerly" going to step on the gas do what he did... Keep it under 300hp.
I've been in a car where the driver was able to make the wheels spin just punching it from 50 with decently new tires.
And have to rebuild it every 30 hours
Now let see you stuff that Hayabusa in an Atom , cheers mate
That's a death wish
You should really change the shift direction. It’s opposite of what makes since. I saw the slip you made and pulled down into a lower gear instead of up. Other that that. Beautiful car. Nice build.
A Lenco shifter is always forward. A motorcycle gearbox is one down, five up. And, it's sense; not since.
I like your work. 'Got a 70 Europa S2 I want to do this conversion to. Any suggestions ?
email sales@zcars.org.uk for a price. That would make a really nice conversion.
Reverse the pattern on the shifter... It's more natural to yank back to change up.
Nice.. But forward is always down on a sequential. Surely!
Not on a motorcycle.
@@1dariansdad depends on your orientation. A standard bike has you twist your ankle up and back to shift up, down and forward to shift down unless it's a gp shifter which isn't likely.
1:42
So he is grey all over exept the outline of his head:)
Greathair man love it
***well put my friend***
I wonder how much to the gallon you get.
gear shifter is the wrong way!
Dadul Ludad it is not its set to the bikes gear..
yeah i t needs to be reversed though
Dadul Ludad Yep.....as he found out at 4:50!!
Dadul Ludad generally forward is to go up, on rally cars etc; but personally I agree with u, pulling somehow suits going up!
tpvalley actually, on all Rally cars, pulling backward(Towards driving position) is gear up. And the reverse for gear down.
Looks like a great conversion.
But what's the advantage of the bike engine over doing a turbo conversion on the original engine? Could you not get same/more power for less work from the Elise engine?
You could definitely make more power on the stock engine, but my guess is that you might run into weight/packaging issues. Also motorcycle engines just sounds better.
OK I'd still like to know the weight of the car how much weight this removes. And do you ship a conversion kit and what is the cost.
Fantastic !
What we need is a lotus 11 with a similar toolkit...
Amazing build. Beautiful car.
What would a conversion like this cost on an elise?
Very Nince Turbo Hayabusa Engine in Lotus Elise What is the HP?
Sad that Zcars has, at least for now, closed shop.
yep! awsome!......
You should let Matt Farah drive it when its complete.
they would have to ship it from UK dont see that happening
Fun car !
My dream car invented it in my head a hundred times and now to see it mmmm
Very nice
Make a kit for many cars. I’d love to do this swap on a Honda crx
What about the reverse gear ???? Did you made it yourself?
manic lokofe I think it's in the transfer box giving you the same forward and reverse gears lol big fun
sounds beautiful...
I totally want to see a formula 1 engine in a miata... that would be awesome to see
Lots of comments about the gearshifter so i will point out the problem of a throttle that gets on booste with only a quarter inch of travel. That is poor throttle regulation, your going to find that very difficult to drive at its limits, particularily on an uneven surface.
What is the wait? How much weight does this removed? And how much do you charge for the conversion kit?
Its Geoffrey Hughes (Onslow from "Keeping up Appearances)?
Lol, that used to be a great show.
@@goneflying140 "Evening Missus Bucket" "it's Boo KAAAY!"
Imagine a 2JZ engine in that thing 😁
What ,why? Your very immature It would be a POS 1- you would have to stretch it to fit motor and box, 2- Be to heavy to handle properly.3 Only be good for a straight line, that's if the front didn't overtake you. 4-This configuration with a bjke engine would run rings around your 2JZ.Oh and PS Barra's are a better engine.
NS Sherlock, no need to be a total dick about it. Holy shit. You’re the immature one here, pal.
I would like to see a lotus with LS6 twin turbo. That thing would pop a wheelie.
Love it, great vid too.
Hello Chris. How well have you found the PWR barrel intercooler to work on this kit? I have had mixed messages.
That gear shift is asking for a wrong direction shift in the heat of the moment!! Get it the right way round before the conrods see daylight!! for the safety of the engine, driver and other road users!! Other than that nice job!!
Excellent work
is there confirmation of the weight bias or is it just speculation by the gentleman?
Perfect Engenering
Shame your not in the US, your little lotus are a bit expensive here but would love to do a 2nd generation M R 2 ,light weight good looking car , maybe you could come up with a bolt on package for small cars ? Just an idea , would have loved to seen what that little bugger would do on the track ! 11/11/18 - Mr. Dave. 👍🏼
Are the Lotus less expensive elsewhere?
I need that in my MR2
Nice work!
Looks amazing but its crazy to mess with gear changing convention like that, it's simply not intuitive and on the track would detract from what you should be thinking about.
Very kick ass!
Lovely job
How much weight does the engine swap remove?
watchman1872 I was wondering the same thing how much weight did this removed? Did you ever get a reply? Thanks
About half the weight of the standard engine and box I would say which makes me wonder what the traction is like.
hmm I wonder what's the best engine price/quality for drifting car builds...
I'm not sure why this over a Honda swap