I know the usual intention is that you need to be a high enough level (and thus have some monkey knowledge) to beat elite bosses, but even then, damn. For previous crazy boss weeks, check here for more: ruclips.net/video/zkdA-Rj5Oow/видео.html
@@Irillie, very understandable. The one power that practically cripples fast bosses is Time Stop. That practically gives your towers 3x attack speed and your Paragons 10x attack speed.
I genuinely think this is one of the hardest bosses NK has ever released. They did not hold back at all and it worries me because this is *400%* speed, and not 500%.
@@FuelDropforthewin I'm sad I missed this boss, I barely play this game and I'm not really active in the reddit or discord so I only ever find out about these hard bosses when isab uploads but sadly he always uploads after the boss has ended
I’m not usually posting comments but this was the first video where isab sounded really concerned about their abilities and managing the challenge. Finally some worthy of a pro duel
Playing around the stun when Vortex is that fast is a pain but the projectile reflection on Vortex was even more annoying. By the time the shield wears off, Vortex has made more progress than before he was pushed backwards.
@@Mooeatsgrassimo this is better. The community has a crazy side, this gives us a personality. Better than everyone spamming "great video" and "thanks for the video"
2:02 In my long time of playing Bloons, I always avoided the boses because I thought they were too hard and required too much skill and so I only watched Boss Challenges on Yt. However this week I had too much time to spare and thought let's try it myself...1 hour later and with 5k Monkey Money lost I finally had to admit that I got absolutely crushed by Vortex. Lovely first boss experience
Isab being mvp beating it without monkey knowledge, now imma wait for Lych with 150% speed and 150% health, with the catch being the lych soul is glitched again and gets more powerful with scaling
@@AltraHapi genius, I know... maybe on resort but, it will at least take 80 rounds for it to actually take place for the ramping to skyrocket things instead of being an immediate 400% speed right
I've been playing BTD6 for a while now, got about 600 hours on Steam. But this last Lich event was my first time seriously attempting a boss fight, because people were saying it was relatively normal. So to go from that to *this* was just uncalled for 😂
So godly, Its been awhile since i've done an elite boss. Haven't since this Vortex one came out. A couple OG Liches in there but other than that, Im slacking. Fun to watch though. Great video king.
I think that Ninja Kiwi is *still* getting revenge back at us when we called Vortex easy The biggest hurdles, even with monkey knowledge were tier 2 and 5 (not saying the others weren't difficult) tier 2 made me rethink my defense and start over again, and tier 5 I went with an ace paragon maximalist defense. Not the best idea because of the micro needed, I had a degree 20ish boat and degree 1 sub paragon with everything else going into ace. And even with my advantage over you, Vortex got to the same place that you did Man, what a week, so NK. When's the next brutal week because in the great saying "Nah I'd win"
i started doing more elite bosses after getting comfortable with clearing normal ones. talk about an insane mix up, 280% phayze, lych, and no paragon bloonarius did not prepare me for this monster
I beat elite vortex this week with sub, boat and ace paragons for tier 5 by abusing the fact that final strike and carpet bomb can damage vortex through the shield to trigger 2 skulls at once meaning less time not being able to damage vortex. Because of the lower health of vortex the abilities combined were able to deal enough damage to trigger the next skull, so it was like 1 of the skulls didn't have a shield.
I was having problems with getting past tier 1. It would say popped tier 1 but then there was an invisible vortex still going around. I posted a video of it on my channel. I spent so much monkey money trying to see if it was just me but nope it kept doing that every time. Couldn’t go past round 41. I tried restarting my phone and seeing if that would help but it didn’t. Once I popped vortex there would then be an invisible vortex towards the end of the track. It got so frustrating and after spending $20,000 monkey money I finally just quit. I wonder if anyone else ran into this.
NK needs to add some sorta respawn pass to bosses (meaning you gotta pay the penalty only once for 40/60/80/100/120 respawn), had to quit on tier 2 after using like 6k monkey money.
I spent 4k money on powers... what a good way to scare newcomers from mr beast video. "You're not welcome here, you cannot farm efficiently enough to beat an elite boss, this game is only for tryhards. Go back to your baby games".. what were they thinking -_- PD: some of my friends weren't even aple to beat normal vortex.
Honestly I feel like there should be a third boss level, one that the really good players can enjoy. This would give a meaningful challenge to those who want it, but also not compensate the majority of less sweaty players
@@Mooeatsgrass I am pretty sure ranked mode is supposed to be that. no powers. And you're against other good players.. The normal/non ranked boss shouldn't be this hard, so I think your 3rd option is a pretty good idea
This boss was rough. I needed double cash mode and time stop to beat this one. Imo, this is this most difficult official boss week NK has ever released. Next up may be the two half-cash bosses they did so far. After barely beating normal tier, I didn’t want to waste my time, power ups, monkey money, and *sanity* getting curb stomped by Elite Vortex. This boss was an anti-newbie gatekeeper for sure.
Elite is supposed to be the one for higher skilled players. Newcomers aren't supposed to nor expected to beat Elite, that's why Normal also exists which is made to cater the casuals/newcomers.
"If it's already 400% speed, why not just straight up make it 500%?" I said to myself, before seeing how unbelievably close that was with ISAB farming like hell, affording 3 40 degree paragons and a 60 degree ace paragon on a long map.
You got some advice and some strategies beforehand but coming up to this boss totally blind was so frustating. Lost so much MM on retries before having the correct strat you ended up using for the most part
02:04 - Yes, that was my first time playing a boss in probably a year, and oh lawd i lost so fast. I probably spent 4000-5000 monkey money on supermonkey wipe, money crates, time freeze and speed boost, and i hardly made i after 3-4 attempts. I found the map too small to have a good flow and the boss speed too fast, specially without any sniper :( I didn't use any farms tho, and i had Obyn
This was the toughest boss we have seen yet. I had a degree 57 sub, a degree 50 navarch a degree 40 ninja and a degree 42 ace. All of them were out of stunning range and T5 still beat me
Most bosses I try to do at least one round of, the only bosses I didn't do that on where the 2000% Ceramic Health Bloonarius from a bit back and this Vortex, I really hope NK gives us some more reasonable bosses like last weeks Lich. Vortex is already a pretty hard boss at base.
I've been playing the game for maybe 6 or 7 bosses now, and ever since I got into bossing, I have never seen something quite this challenging. Can barely beat it on normal.
I used a masterbomber for my tier 1 kill. Which would be one thing if it killed it faster than round 42, but it didn't. Losing that much money early on is probably a big contributor to me dying at tier 5.
I did this with Monkey Knowledge and barely scraped by with a similar setup. Goes to show I'm not nearly as skilled with farming and sell tactics. This one was rough
I used master bomber for tier 1 and overclocked flying fortress for tier 2, but i didnt have enough money in the end(i tried using a support temple bc it worked in normal vortex, but ut didnt endeup being worth it for elite since without a Paragon i wouldnt beat tier 3)
Yeah even with MK it was still hard I had to get all 4 paragon slots and I barely scratched it to manage to defeat elite but hey if I learned something and thats I need a new farming strategy
even on regular difficulty i still have not beaten this vortex, then again i haven't really done any boss battles since BMC and i would always just stack 2-2 dartlings which obviously you can't do in this rotation haha
It's almost like they should add a practice mode and a guide even a simple one on advanced/intermediate farming if the bosses are gonna be this hard. Also people play bosses for money and exp to get monkey knowledge. They should be balanced around not having it.
When nk come up with a concept like this, they should balance it for normal and elite, and then add a challange mode where its as hard as it can. Like no health nerfs and shit.
Bro this was my first time playing a boss I played blonarious once a long time ago and I came back to the game recently and I thought this was just a normal boss...
Ngl I did not expect you to get it first try lol. But I suppose you did seem to get some "insider knowledge" as you went in. This week was so friggin hard lol.
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I know the usual intention is that you need to be a high enough level (and thus have some monkey knowledge) to beat elite bosses, but even then, damn.
For previous crazy boss weeks, check here for more: ruclips.net/video/zkdA-Rj5Oow/видео.html
Day 2 of asking Isab to read us a bedtime story.
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Was this harder than all 5 bosses at once?
> "This week the usual tubers didn't make a no-MK guide, so I'm making it myself." - ISAB
> ISAB's guide: A-a-a-a-a-AAAA-a-a-a-a-aAAaA!!!!!!
@@Irillie, very understandable. The one power that practically cripples fast bosses is Time Stop. That practically gives your towers 3x attack speed and your Paragons 10x attack speed.
I genuinely think this is one of the hardest bosses NK has ever released. They did not hold back at all and it worries me because this is *400%* speed, and not 500%.
Imagine an elite vortex max speed on one of the shorter beginner maps or even a map without water, now that would be hell
Oh this was easily the hardest boss event I have ever had to fight through.
500% speed vortex no health nerf
@@TheDestroyer55e yeah at that point I am breaking out the insta monkey reserves. I have no shame.
@@FuelDropforthewin I'm sad I missed this boss, I barely play this game and I'm not really active in the reddit or discord so I only ever find out about these hard bosses when isab uploads but sadly he always uploads after the boss has ended
ISAB: "I swear I can fit more than 5 boats here."
The 6 boats just chillin:
8:31
"I gotta make sure this doesn't stun the... Vortex either"
-Isab
I’m not usually posting comments but this was the first video where isab sounded really concerned about their abilities and managing the challenge. Finally some worthy of a pro duel
lmao yeah he was optimizing sooo much
@@Mooeatsgrass and damn he needed it with how close it was
This was one of the only times the game has seriously thrown down the gauntlet for ISAB. I wouldn't even be able to TOUCH this monstrosity
Tbf his Chat prepared him and gave a lot of advice. I think thats why sounds a little sceptic
@@antoniotrivelloni8191 monkey knowledge makes an insane difference. with full knowledge you have to make way less optimizations
Playing around the stun when Vortex is that fast is a pain but the projectile reflection on Vortex was even more annoying. By the time the shield wears off, Vortex has made more progress than before he was pushed backwards.
it gave him like an effective track length of like 2/3 the original track but with 400% speed
The speed is faster than Isab going to Sauda's house
LOL
The speed is faster than isab coming inside sauda('s house)
@@Techmoblad lmfao what has this comment section turned into 💀💀
@@Mooeatsgrassimo this is better. The community has a crazy side, this gives us a personality. Better than everyone spamming "great video" and "thanks for the video"
@@java_sucks.
Ninja Kiwi on their way to make boss events actually impossible for 95% of players:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was upwards of 98% of players.
they need to cater to both their casual players and their hardcore players. its good to occasionally sprinkle in some of these challenges imo
@@yaoitiddieexpert1486the paragonless bloonarius was pretty easy tho
Ngl now i want a really really hard boss lol
Just once NK plzz
Well, its an "elite" boss. Its not supposed to be easy. Thats what the normal boss is for.
Isab brutalized vortex so badly it couldn’t walk the next day
Ayooooo💀💀
Vortex using wheelchair after the fun rough activity last night.
i cant beieve isab cheated on sauda the drama is crazy out here in the btd6 community
Stop ts 😭
@@sepehrgoodarzi3074 Somehow translates to "Come on"
17:00 When I get around to it, the site will say how many pops or dollars it will take for a specific degree
Really useful tool. Thanks for this.
@@dairy.dreamer You're welcome, Mr. Dairy Dreamer
We appreciate this tool, time for me to rely on it now 👍
Thanks sherlock
This is, unfortunately, the first time I play a boss event. What a time to be into btd6 lmao
This boss is harder than Isab when he looks at Sauda.
At* ☝️🤓
@@java_sucks where ? (i'm not a good english speaker)
@@BraboDmsSlc acthually, you fikthed before I thowed where it wath
This boss is just as hard as ISAB when he sees the Sauda catgirl skin
@@leroyspeeltthe WHAT
21:02 if your ace micro isnt good mine is negative skill 💀💀
i play battles but yk
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@@astarlitsky I know Battles 1 micro is nuts is it similar in the second one?
@@DubYuhGChoppa no center path and broken pathing if you even f*ck up slightly , it's pretty hard
@@astarlitskyYou play battles? My ace micro must be imaginary then
I downloaded BTD6 a week ago and I knew there is bosses on it, I saw this boss and clicked.
Never regretted something so much in my life😭
"Oh I don't have Marine, you asshole" - Isab 14:19
« Is this salvageable » 💀💀💀
ikr, such a good reference
When the pros start struggling you know you have no chance
i had a chance
@@volcanic_sloth i also had a chance with your mom
@@milchi5122most funny mom joke
2:02 In my long time of playing Bloons, I always avoided the boses because I thought they were too hard and required too much skill and so I only watched Boss Challenges on Yt. However this week I had too much time to spare and thought let's try it myself...1 hour later and with 5k Monkey Money lost I finally had to admit that I got absolutely crushed by Vortex. Lovely first boss experience
Feel pity for you bro its so sad
bro watching a guide can help
Isab being mvp beating it without monkey knowledge, now imma wait for Lych with 150% speed and 150% health, with the catch being the lych soul is glitched again and gets more powerful with scaling
the catch is the soul is glitched 💀
@@badateverything2931 just like the old one that happened, it would be quite fun to see fought with it *intentionally* set to be stronger that way
@@lancetheking7524 200% health, 150% speed glitched soul 💀
@@AltraHapi genius, I know... maybe on resort but, it will at least take 80 rounds for it to actually take place for the ramping to skyrocket things instead of being an immediate 400% speed right
All other bosses: we do have some slight changes here and there..
Vortex this challenge: *I. AM. SPEED.*
Real
I've been playing BTD6 for a while now, got about 600 hours on Steam. But this last Lich event was my first time seriously attempting a boss fight, because people were saying it was relatively normal. So to go from that to *this* was just uncalled for 😂
Was a great livestream! Hopefully we see more hard bosses like this one
So godly, Its been awhile since i've done an elite boss.
Haven't since this Vortex one came out. A couple OG Liches in there but other than that, Im slacking.
Fun to watch though.
Great video king.
I think that Ninja Kiwi is *still* getting revenge back at us when we called Vortex easy
The biggest hurdles, even with monkey knowledge were tier 2 and 5 (not saying the others weren't difficult) tier 2 made me rethink my defense and start over again, and tier 5 I went with an ace paragon maximalist defense.
Not the best idea because of the micro needed, I had a degree 20ish boat and degree 1 sub paragon with everything else going into ace. And even with my advantage over you, Vortex got to the same place that you did
Man, what a week, so NK. When's the next brutal week because in the great saying "Nah I'd win"
If they left boss HP at the normal 100% mod, I'd think this would be impossible...
NK really tried to catch anyone sleeping....
Oh yea, it would be super impossible. Unless you use powers. But ranked would be 🤷♂️💀
i started doing more elite bosses after getting comfortable with clearing normal ones. talk about an insane mix up, 280% phayze, lych, and no paragon bloonarius did not prepare me for this monster
okay so i dont suck at the game this weeks boss was just insanity
Isab : this is the hardest boss week
Mackan : NK asked me to not go for the leader board
2:01 literaly my first boss event and I got demolished so bad
I felt vindicated when you said anyone who had this as their first boss you felt bad for, I was able to do it but it was a strrruggle.
Wow, how did you do that on your first boss?! My first boss was Bloonarius on Resort in the challenge editor.
This was actually my first time participating in a boss event. I had thought that was its base speed!
Ya know when isab has to think and farm like this its a good time love this
I beat elite vortex this week with sub, boat and ace paragons for tier 5 by abusing the fact that final strike and carpet bomb can damage vortex through the shield to trigger 2 skulls at once meaning less time not being able to damage vortex. Because of the lower health of vortex the abilities combined were able to deal enough damage to trigger the next skull, so it was like 1 of the skulls didn't have a shield.
I was having problems with getting past tier 1. It would say popped tier 1 but then there was an invisible vortex still going around. I posted a video of it on my channel. I spent so much monkey money trying to see if it was just me but nope it kept doing that every time. Couldn’t go past round 41. I tried restarting my phone and seeing if that would help but it didn’t. Once I popped vortex there would then be an invisible vortex towards the end of the track. It got so frustrating and after spending $20,000 monkey money I finally just quit. I wonder if anyone else ran into this.
NK needs to add some sorta respawn pass to bosses (meaning you gotta pay the penalty only once for 40/60/80/100/120 respawn), had to quit on tier 2 after using like 6k monkey money.
12:35 Can't believe he made the Wall Street on the left, instead of next to the BRF at the exit, to save him the trouble of using the Farmer.
As cool as these new boss challenges are, it does suck a bit for new people trying to do bosses. Like, they are NOT prepared to deal with these things
Vortex now has the speed of a green bloon
thats some STEROIDIC ROCKET FUEL
There’s probably a spot where Ben can be blocked by Line of Sight on Frozen Over
Nope their are no line of sight blockers on this map
as someone who did every single boss event from the very beginning, this one was absolutely the hardest
Was it tho? I remember there was a haunted lych that was nearly impossible. The entire leaderboard was almost empty lol
@@shaydenprime275I remember that, couldn't beat but agree with OP this was harder even though I did beat it. That lych just got me frustated and quit
@@shaydenprime275nah
Even in the loop vortex felt harder
I spent 4k money on powers...
what a good way to scare newcomers from mr beast video.
"You're not welcome here, you cannot farm efficiently enough to beat an elite boss, this game is only for tryhards. Go back to your baby games".. what were they thinking -_-
PD: some of my friends weren't even aple to beat normal vortex.
Honestly I feel like there should be a third boss level, one that the really good players can enjoy. This would give a meaningful challenge to those who want it, but also not compensate the majority of less sweaty players
@@Mooeatsgrass I am pretty sure ranked mode is supposed to be that. no powers. And you're against other good players..
The normal/non ranked boss shouldn't be this hard, so I think your 3rd option is a pretty good idea
This boss was rough. I needed double cash mode and time stop to beat this one. Imo, this is this most difficult official boss week NK has ever released. Next up may be the two half-cash bosses they did so far. After barely beating normal tier, I didn’t want to waste my time, power ups, monkey money, and *sanity* getting curb stomped by Elite Vortex. This boss was an anti-newbie gatekeeper for sure.
Lmao
Elite is supposed to be the one for higher skilled players. Newcomers aren't supposed to nor expected to beat Elite, that's why Normal also exists which is made to cater the casuals/newcomers.
Isab:" It's too hard why would they make it like this" Him a lil bit after:"let's turn off monkey knowledge"
14:20 this is the first time ever i have heard isab swearing. damn, that boss must've been rough
him swearing is like finding a shiny pokemon
caused me a little pain when he sold the 004 boat first
Yeah not ISAB's finest moment.
This boss week was so tough, NK held back on naming it 'ISAB can't beat this'
"If it's already 400% speed, why not just straight up make it 500%?"
I said to myself, before seeing how unbelievably close that was with ISAB farming like hell, affording 3 40 degree paragons and a 60 degree ace paragon on a long map.
yeah I think they made it barely possible without mk
You got some advice and some strategies beforehand but coming up to this boss totally blind was so frustating. Lost so much MM on retries before having the
correct strat you ended up using for the most part
"The Mr. Beast collab means NinjaKiwi is going to do easy boss weeks!"
NinjaKiwi:
02:04 - Yes, that was my first time playing a boss in probably a year, and oh lawd i lost so fast. I probably spent 4000-5000 monkey money on supermonkey wipe, money crates, time freeze and speed boost, and i hardly made i after 3-4 attempts. I found the map too small to have a good flow and the boss speed too fast, specially without any sniper :( I didn't use any farms tho, and i had Obyn
This was the toughest boss we have seen yet. I had a degree 57 sub, a degree 50 navarch a degree 40 ninja and a degree 42 ace. All of them were out of stunning range and T5 still beat me
You know its really bad when people with 10000+ hours in bloons recommend cash drops or farm instas with mk
i was hoping youd post a video about this boss, while i usually watch your vids to help me sleep this vid has my full attention
Dotj does activate all at once. But it only activates the ones whose abilities are up. They weren't all up.
this was my third boss 😂 after a few attempts i said fuckit and decided to wait for your "they made vortex too op" video 😂
Most bosses I try to do at least one round of, the only bosses I didn't do that on where the 2000% Ceramic Health Bloonarius from a bit back and this Vortex, I really hope NK gives us some more reasonable bosses like last weeks Lich. Vortex is already a pretty hard boss at base.
I've been playing the game for maybe 6 or 7 bosses now, and ever since I got into bossing, I have never seen something quite this challenging. Can barely beat it on normal.
You gotta love how tier 5 makes it a pain in the ass to win in ranked
I used a masterbomber for my tier 1 kill. Which would be one thing if it killed it faster than round 42, but it didn't.
Losing that much money early on is probably a big contributor to me dying at tier 5.
This was genuinely my first attempt at a boss and I was like "oh my god people do these?!"
That was very impressive to watch
When I first played vortex, I try thought “why is this thing so slow???”😂😂
This was unironically my friends first time trying out a boss...
even the normal boss was more difficult than usual, 3 paragons and vortex still nearly got to the exit on tier 5
Kinda wish he posted this before the event ended innit
I did this with Monkey Knowledge and barely scraped by with a similar setup. Goes to show I'm not nearly as skilled with farming and sell tactics. This one was rough
This was actually my first boss and i retried like 8 times and just gave up assuming im just a scrub but its good to know this is just really hard
man no mk really hits hard earlygame
even with my average level of farming i could get a miniopolis and a whole set of 200 farms around it before t1
if this had come out 1 day earlier i wouldve used this as a tutorial and crushed elite vortex
I used master bomber for tier 1 and overclocked flying fortress for tier 2, but i didnt have enough money in the end(i tried using a support temple bc it worked in normal vortex, but ut didnt endeup being worth it for elite since without a Paragon i wouldnt beat tier 3)
You're crazy for this one ISAB
ok NK
now we need chimps boss 200% hp
New lych 600% hp 💀
Yeah even with MK it was still hard I had to get all 4 paragon slots and I barely scratched it to manage to defeat elite but hey if I learned something and thats I need a new farming strategy
Was my first boss I tried. I beat the base difficulty but gave up on elite after a few tries lol.
Thank god, this was my first time playing a boss and I thought it I was just really bad but it's reassuring heating everyone is saying it's difficult
if this was last times boss event
your strategy wouldn't work simply becuase we were not allowed to use monkey ace
I thought you end setup was overkill but boy oh boy was that down to the wire lol
POV: the one friend who goes easy on you gets pissed cuz you said he was garbage at the game and starts playing seriously
This was my first boss and i used sub paragon and ace paragon on NORMAL RANKED and thought it was hard, first two tiers i used ace 4th tier and heli
even on regular difficulty i still have not beaten this vortex, then again i haven't really done any boss battles since BMC and i would always just stack 2-2 dartlings which obviously you can't do in this rotation haha
SAMEEEEEE OMG 😂
It's almost like they should add a practice mode and a guide even a simple one on advanced/intermediate farming if the bosses are gonna be this hard. Also people play bosses for money and exp to get monkey knowledge. They should be balanced around not having it.
dang dude nice job, that was close
When nk come up with a concept like this, they should balance it for normal and elite, and then add a challange mode where its as hard as it can. Like no health nerfs and shit.
Thank you ISAB for going to far all over me this time
Thank you ISAB, for going too far with the bloons!
this week was so hard i couldnt beat it with mods
2:02 this was actually my friend's first time playing a boss event
this week was my first boss (i may of spent a couple of hours of atempts)
It dissappoints me how little NK cares about casual players anymore.
It scares me that I was still able to beat it on normal.
Bro this was my first time playing a boss I played blonarious once a long time ago and I came back to the game recently and I thought this was just a normal boss...
First time against this boss and I almost beat it but lost to tier 5 😭
Ngl I did not expect you to get it first try lol. But I suppose you did seem to get some "insider knowledge" as you went in.
This week was so friggin hard lol.
Yeah I did the normal boss really easy and I thought maybe Elite wasn’t going to too bad. I gave up after a few attempts
I was just about to say you say that all elite boss weeks have gone too far but you literally beat everyone to it lmao 😂
Do ninja kiwi think about more casual players before making bosess? But i assume they its mostly for tryhards and its just not fair
After round 40 I had no Idea what da heal was going on 💀💀
ikr
I took a break from btd6 and came back to this boss
I beat the normal boss and I was like, that's easy how hard could elite be? I was wrong.
Okay, who at NK headquarters is the sweaty boss tester?
I love him lol
I juste started actually playing BTD6, and have almost no MK and few heroes, and it feels like I'm not playing races and bosses for a while ...