It wasn't an install issue... And yes, the PHR kit is a -4/-10 setup. I've had dozens of aftermarket turbos and this was the first to suffer a premature failure. My buddy's jb 6766 is still going strong. Shit happens... Older PTE reliability was decent; these new turbos are a roll of the dice, IMO.
My mate has the 6766 and i got the 6266 both are being driven very hard with no issues. Did you have a bov and proper oil lines? An4 feed an10 drain short as possible
Ironically, the Ebay GT4202 on my Supra (which was well selected, properly installed by me) is still running perfectly fine without a hint of shaft play, smoking or any other failure. The car is even on to another owner with no issues. Sometimes those Ebay turbos are really just the actual parts casted for other companies, and merged with other parts to hybridize them, to avoid legal issues.
My buddy's ebay 76mm has been running perfectly fine for years on a turbo LS application. It's not running a lot of boost, but has help up perfectly and makes good power for a sub $400 turbo...!
Exactly. There are a couple of decent larger frame turbos on Ebay. If you keep the wheel speed down and the CHRA is robust enough, clean oil... It'll last.
I don't recall exactly, I think it was 3700 or 3800RPM. That turbo only lasted ~1200 miles before it started sounding like a tornado siren in boost. Piece of shit is now a $2000 paper weight. PTE reliability is very hit and miss these days.
In my case there wasn't really any "tuning". The stock ECU is managing fuel and timing without correction. However, I did run race gas exclusively, so I was getting full timing advance, so it made very healthy numbers are low boost.
The VPC was just for Speed Density/MAF delete. The VPC/AFC combo was already wired into a patch harness I had from a previous Supra. I knew I would be upgrading the fuel system soon so just left everything zero'd and used the VPC "A" chip. When I did the fuel system I used the "B" chip and then did actual 'tuning' with it at that point. The setup is a LOT different now, though..
VPC "A" is a tune, it's not factory calibration. For instance, I was either running out of MAF or running out of Fuel, so I was running 12.5:1 and above at 19 PSI (timing being pulled out) top end. The more timing pulled the most boost it wanted to make. If I had more fuel it would have made more power on my setup on pump. But this goes to show you can make great power and sound on factory or factory-ish equipment!
LOL that's splitting hairs a bit... The AFC was zero'd on the street since the stock ECU, despite running in MAP, does a perfectly fine job of managing fuel delivery.. It's a MUCH different setup now anyway..
Do you research -- evidently you're not well educated on the platform. It's been done multiple times; these numbers aren't very special. The car also went 11.0 @ 130MPH in the same configuration as it it was dyno'd on this video, which validates/proves the numbers. There's video of it on my channel, along with other setups. I don't bullshit -- I provide all of the details and video proof for everyone to see.
Nice build with the stock ECU and FS. Love it.
Overall fitment, quality of construction, materials, etc... is top notch -- I highly recommend the PHR turbo kit.
Sounds about right mine put down 625whp with the same exact kit only I have a AEM V2, 264 cams, and 650cc injectors
Tokyo JZA80 with meth or e85?
Yes, stock/original USDM 550cc injectors.
It wasn't an install issue... And yes, the PHR kit is a -4/-10 setup. I've had dozens of aftermarket turbos and this was the first to suffer a premature failure. My buddy's jb 6766 is still going strong. Shit happens... Older PTE reliability was decent; these new turbos are a roll of the dice, IMO.
My mate has the 6766 and i got the 6266 both are being driven very hard with no issues. Did you have a bov and proper oil lines? An4 feed an10 drain short as possible
Its the street torque turbo kit with cast manifold?? Or the tubular one?
No, I use an old school HKS VPC to convert to speed density.
do you run the mass air flow? i have put a phr single turbo kit and my car start very well with no maf and not start with maf ???
Ironically, the Ebay GT4202 on my Supra (which was well selected, properly installed by me) is still running perfectly fine without a hint of shaft play, smoking or any other failure. The car is even on to another owner with no issues. Sometimes those Ebay turbos are really just the actual parts casted for other companies, and merged with other parts to hybridize them, to avoid legal issues.
My buddy's ebay 76mm has been running perfectly fine for years on a turbo LS application. It's not running a lot of boost, but has help up perfectly and makes good power for a sub $400 turbo...!
Exactly. There are a couple of decent larger frame turbos on Ebay. If you keep the wheel speed down and the CHRA is robust enough, clean oil... It'll last.
must be the 550cc injectors right?
Which intake manifold did you use ?
Stock intake and throttlebody; all of the mods are listed in the video
Good kit? Worth the money??
What rpm does it hit 18psi?
I just bought the exact same turbo with the same housing.
Gpro Supra so what rpm did it hit?
Tubular manifold
Stock cams? what fuel?
Stock cams -- all mods listed in vid. 100 octane fuel.
I don't recall exactly, I think it was 3700 or 3800RPM. That turbo only lasted ~1200 miles before it started sounding like a tornado siren in boost. Piece of shit is now a $2000 paper weight. PTE reliability is very hit and miss these days.
Just for some performance reference, check out ruclips.net/video/zCiJl6sl-dk/видео.html
Shows how important tuning is.
In my case there wasn't really any "tuning". The stock ECU is managing fuel and timing without correction. However, I did run race gas exclusively, so I was getting full timing advance, so it made very healthy numbers are low boost.
AHH. So what were the piggybacks for then?
Didn't know this was on race gas.
The VPC was just for Speed Density/MAF delete. The VPC/AFC combo was already wired into a patch harness I had from a previous Supra. I knew I would be upgrading the fuel system soon so just left everything zero'd and used the VPC "A" chip. When I did the fuel system I used the "B" chip and then did actual 'tuning' with it at that point. The setup is a LOT different now, though..
VPC "A" is a tune, it's not factory calibration.
For instance, I was either running out of MAF or running out of Fuel, so I was running 12.5:1 and above at 19 PSI (timing being pulled out) top end. The more timing pulled the most boost it wanted to make.
If I had more fuel it would have made more power on my setup on pump. But this goes to show you can make great power and sound on factory or factory-ish equipment!
How are you getting 18psi on a stock ecu?
Blitz DSBC Boost controller...
Fair enough. Just unlucky i guess
It's not a stock ECU with VPC/AFC controllers.
LOL that's splitting hairs a bit... The AFC was zero'd on the street since the stock ECU, despite running in MAP, does a perfectly fine job of managing fuel delivery.. It's a MUCH different setup now anyway..
I agree, piggy isnt stock at all, any aftermarket control isn't stock!
I mean, technically the ECU is the factory ECU and it hasn't been modified. I like AP said it's splitting hairs.
Yeah, I was just being pedantic about it....I get what he means, Sarcasm is hard to convey in text LOL :/
500 odd hp off stock fuel and ecu, hard to imagine, or a very happy dyno :/
Do you research -- evidently you're not well educated on the platform. It's been done multiple times; these numbers aren't very special. The car also went 11.0 @ 130MPH in the same configuration as it it was dyno'd on this video, which validates/proves the numbers. There's video of it on my channel, along with other setups. I don't bullshit -- I provide all of the details and video proof for everyone to see.
What intercooler are you running?
ceelm GReddy 3-row FMIC
nice
Don't worry burn, its not stock fuel control, wonder what cc injectors its running?