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3D printed atmosphere powered boat
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2022
- This is my design of an atmosphere powered (or vacuum powered) boat. It's far from perfect, and there are plenty of things I could do to improve it (make sure the propeller is actually fully submerged, use a draft tube, dual prop, etc), but I just wanted to get this video out since I haven't posted in so long! Still, please do give any ideas for improvements or future videos in the comments!
I started this project in August of last year, but life got in the way and I didn't work on this (or any other projects) till February. My schedule is slightly less hectic now, so I'm hoping I'll have more spare time to work on these side projects.
Hope you liked the video!
The boat is spinning because not the entire propeller is under water.
An excellent demonstration of transverse thrust.
A rudder would help too.
If he added a heavy keel it would bring the prop under the water and provide directional stability.
That worked WAY better than my air powered plane! Sick project bro!
I might have to visit vacuum power again...
Thanks bro!
Haha a vacuum plane is hard!
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*uses water soluble glue in water*
If you ever go back to that project and lake you could try just adding some ballast to the back of the boat to submerge the prop further. It would leak more but that can be counteracted by using permanent sealing spray (ik commitment). I use it on my air engines and it works wonders.
That sounds like a good idea, thanks! I think I'll be less afraid of glue next time now I know it works
Easier and probably more efficient method would be to just use a gear system and lower the propeller further below the boat, far less weight and no additional materials required except for the 3D printer and filament which he already has...
This video has blown up in the last 2 days, YT algorithm is really a mystery.
Thanks to everyone that liked the video, it just so happens I'm working on V2 for this and few other things in mind to work on now I have a bit more free time again. So expect some new videos in the (somewhat) near future!
P.s I didnt actually find the syringe in a bush, plz dont pick up syringes from bushes (or anywhere lol)
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I that case, thank you very much YT algorithm and even more thank you to you for the great video.
can you add download link to all the 3d models to 3d print for our selves
Wow I was not expecting this comment after a year of the video being posted
You got an amazing amount of work out of that syringe! Nicely done.
Love the banter 👍 especially some of your outbursts like
" Oh for fa......"😂
I admire the engineering and tenacity required for this project...
And at the same time, I cringe at the thought of investing so much time and energy into a mechanism that only works marginally better than twisting a rubber band.
In fact, having the mechanism pull tension on rubber bands rather than the plunger might even work better.
I think you should spend another 1000 hours or so exploring rubber band powered boat engines.
Imagine the industrial applications.
Having been in the position of making gears ( tried to make some fishbone gears to strengthen a 3d print) I know what you went through in those two days. Anyone who has designed gears from scratch knows that they are never as simple as they look.
Finally someone found a use for all the syringes lying around! Imagine Orlando could give every resident two boats! Albeit the most inefficient boat hull I’ve ever seen.
Yeah I agree the Hull was not ideal 🤣 but easy to make which is what I was after
Thank you - the second I saw the link to this page I thought "Who came first, Tom Stanton or you?" then looked at the dates - thought you were cheating, then saw you credited him. I enjoyed this and am looking forward to V2
This was cool. An iteration of this which truly worked off positive and negative changes in atmospheric pressure to drive a small generator charging a super capacitor to power some low power electronics intermittently would be amazing. And it would work anywhere. There are applications which could use this.
I can’t believe the algorithm didn’t show me your channel until now, keep up the good work👍👍
I admire your brutal honesty. Many idiots here would do something dishonest and lie about their failures! For that reason I subbed!
Awesome video. I'm off work today so I can watch this on repeat all day long. If you're not subscribed to this channel you're not living yet.
Glad you liked it!
@@kurzey8532 why did you stop uploading? You were doing so good. Please come back, we miss you.
@@zefror_7078remember the part in the video where he said he was about to go off to university? I'd bet thats why he stopped uploading.
@@nicksshitbro final year was mad stressful
@@kurzey8532 yeah I can imagine it didn't leave much time for prototyping and such because of classes.
Great engine! Great video! Great sense of humor! Your boat proves why they invented the RUDDER! Your boat CAN go straight!
Yeah 100% needs a rudder
What you were describing that you want to do is a nearly 300 year old engine design called a sterling engine. One country has re-designed this and has used it to run submarines now a lot of people considered a toy but if you set the conditions upright, you can have a engine that runs on the atmosphere. You have to provide one way to heat it in one way the cooler and you only need a few degrees.
Very entertaining video. Thanks for bringing a smile! Defo thumbs up for v2 (and v3... V7)
ive just watched all your videos
i cant wait intil you come back your editing is amazing
That was awesome. Worked way better than I thought! Looking forward to the next one (or an upgraded version)
Worked better than I thought too 🤣 thank you!
Just need to fit another or more cylinders 💪🏽💯
Atmos clock look it up
The end was more satisfying than I thought. I thought we were going to be left with an anticlimactic design that only spins the propeller a few rotations. I have to say, I'm impressed with the result. Awesome work!!
Here's an idea for a super simple redesign. Use paddle wheels, one each side of the hull with a steel shaft connecting them. Now you could connect the shaft, via the string, directly to the piston. It would also be relatively easy to put in an extra shaft between the piston and final drive to gear up the system.
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very cool. can't wait to see what you make next :). very cool. can't wait to see what you make next :).
Funny experiment and works pretty well. Only real mistake that you made is that you positioned the propeller behind the boat instead of under the boat. You see your boat does mainly circles. This is because of the wheel effect of a propeller. Normally you will find a complete submerged propeller and also that will have a wheel effect. This is caused by drag of the prop blades not being the same on the top and bottom of the prop due to different location in depth. The deeper the higher the pressure. So the blade will feel less pressure when on top compared to being on the bottom. And so will the difference in drag. The forces will work against each other and the remaining force will push the prop ( and stern of the boat) to one direction. And that will be the right when you have a right rotating prop and left with a left rotating prop. In your case half the prop is even above the waterline so there is only one big sidewards component without the top sode of the prop producing the opposite little smaller component to dampen the effect of going sideways. And you only use half of the thrust the prop could produce ( or half the resistance so prop will spin double as fast and shorten the duration of the engine running)
What you could do is turn the engine 180 degrees and design a beveled gearbox to be able to have a prop shaft going down under an angle from the front of the boat. use a long prop shaft to position the prop just under the hull in the back amd have the shallowest angle as possible. because angled also means that a part of the thrust is going down and is less efficient compared to straight back ( like an outboard prop).
What you ended up with is called "prop walk". Nice build in the gearing. I think this came up in my feed because I'm looking to make a toy wind up boat with a starter recoil spring.
Ahh I guessed it might have a name, never looked hard enough to find it!
If this was put into a larger scale and had to crank your boat to put air pressure to make your boat go fast for a period of time would be CRAZY!
I wonder what other applications or if this could be more efficient with a small motorized vacuum and how efficient that may be? THAT Would be amazing to see!
Great attempt, just need to be perfected for the case of a boat!
Simply put, with the propeller completely submerged, there would no longer be the effect of rotation, as each blade pushes in the opposite direction, and a rudder would have to be added to choose its direction !
That is excellent. Well done.
Hey! Nice to have you back! Awesome motor. Lots of potential! Cheers!!
Thank you!
if the prop was fully under water, it would be pushing the boat to both sides canceling it out but because only the lower half of it is underwater it kinda acts like a wheel and makes it turn on itself, so you can do two things to fix that, either put two counter rotation props or submurge the one prop underwater... otherwise, sick project! nice one and good luck with future projects👌
Yep. That prop thinks it's a paddlewheel.
I love your idea with the motor! Awesome! Maybe i will implement it to my next dual prop model. Thanks a lot for sharing.
you basically built a spring powered leaking boat with no rudder to steer which could easily be a kids' toy. awesome bro.
Well I don't think it would sell very well with that description 🤣
@@kurzey8532 yup^^
I'm impressed how long it lasts. Just get that crank to work and you a solid kid's toy! Get a Bambu man ull have the print done in 4hrs 😂
Keep going mate, don’t give up will all be worth it in the end
You can design battery with this principle. Yes, the YT algorim is amazing, better than spotify!
Basically what you made is an energy battery based on vacuum. Problem with vacuum is: you can only have a pressure difference of 1 bar. While with compressed air you can go on. The only limit is the strength of your parts. And then if you create a mechanism that keeps doing this, in stead of just one stroke, you've made a steam engine.
Also props need to be fully submerged. Otherwise they'll act as a paddlewheel with some sideways motion.
Good idea, atmospheric pressure is a real source of energy, but for initial phase, you have to use energy to pull the syringe back. The challenge is still there.
My best compliments are with u you'll succeed one day with ur knowledge
I love your Idea, I am a marine engineer. I can tell you that the propeller have to be fully immersed in water otherwise you will have side effects including lateral force causing the boat to rotate "Yaw". good luck
Thanks!
A prop in motion will make a sideways motion like it was a wheel running on bottom of Lake. So you get a forward component, and small sideways component, you can mount motor at angle to counteract or add a simple rudder, with a slight angle. The book Naval shiphandling by Crenshaw shows how forces work and are used in ships.
Thanks for sharing you ideas.
6 months later your voice changed! That was amazing, lasted pretty long!
You should try to make a very long boat where the entire hull is a PVC Tube with a piston, or make it a catamaran so you can have 2 long and powerful engines that will last a long time. Put on a RC Rudder. Bonus points if you can make it a jet drive instead of a propeller. There's some 3D Printable jet drives out there.
I really like Stanton content, watching yours give me the same pleasure. Great job, nice editing, I subscribed instantly =D
Thanks for the sub!
The boat going in circles because of the propeller is called "prop walk", and you're definitely not the only person who struggles with it.
Add weight to completely immerse the propeller. It will run just fine.
Cavitations some good stuff huh
You need to get your prop all the way in the water. Thats what causong it to go in circles it also needs a rudder
Surprised at how long it ran from that one "charge" of vacuum.
If you can get that prop more than 75-80% submerged you'll minimize the tendency it has to turn In a circle. I'd likely start by reducing the overall diameter of the prop as well as decrease the amount of pitch on the blades.
Really solid build though, I'm impressed.
"Due to the power of video editing, You won't even notice"... I had already figured you might have given up on videomaking XD
Welcome back; (and at least you have more success with your projects than me "ha, ha")
Haha I never intended for the hiatus, final year of university has been a wild one!
Persistence is key with projects 🤣
Perhaps a counter-rotating propeller or a rudder would help the rotating issue
thats awesome work it lasted much longer then i expected it would
The brain power and effort required to accomplish this was overwhelming.
And yet...
Adding a rudder to make it go in a straight like wasn't part of the design?
Good job. I guess the reason of circuling is the odd number of blades on propeller and that it is not fully drawn in water
I love watching your videos, you may learn so much from them.
And dont get me wrong, the engineering part was amazing doing gear ratio and etc.
But that is not an engine, more as power storage unit. We dont make "new" energy via burning or moving part as in windmiles or machine engine, we are more likely using storaged energy by moving the syringe in the opposite was of motion. As an example we may get the same effect using a rubber band twisted several times. That engine is more similar to a battery neither an actuall engine.
But besides that, you are truly a wonderful engineer.
Nice project! You really got that vacuum engine working well. One minor improvement (which may not be that easy) is to get the propeller fully in the water. The reason the boat went in a circle is because the propeller was only 1/2 in the water. The half in the water gave a lateral thrust in additional to the intended axial thrust. Normally this would have been countered by the top half, but that had only air to react against.
Yeah from reading a lot of the other comments I can see that would definitely help, need the boat to sit further down in the water!
Perhaps 2 propellers turning in opposition to each other would straighten it out. But some kind of simple rudder should do the trick too.
Noticed this was 7 months ago. Hope you are doing well and post another interesting build soon
One propeller would work ig it was fully submerged. Only the bottom half is under the water so it kind of acts like a wheel. But if it was fully submerged the top and bottom Halfs would cancel the forces
9:37 It sure likes left turns! The pitch of the prop blades causes that. Hence the invention of the rudder!
This is a cool build! Your channel deserves a lot more attention, and I hope you get back to it at some point.
Version 2.... twin prop (contra-rotation) with a rudder (V2 fixed, V3 controllable) in between.....
Really nice project! To be fair though about the ’engine’ definition, the most general definition of most things that are called engines is ” *A machine that converts the potential/kinetic energy of a gas or liquid into mechanical motion* ”, which still does classify this as engine!
Needs a rudder man! Maybe a keel too. I also agree would perform better if the prop were deeper in the water too. That will stabilize it
Excellent video, thank you!
We all hope that you're not studying road-bridge architecture. Snide aside, creativity dog-on-bone determination is to be admired. Watch out Edison, Kurzey's on your tail.
You want to encapsulate the rotor on the planar side so the water is forced out the back instead the sides, or lower the rotor to allow intake from the front, or even better do both.
I paused the video at 4:54, even though I expect you're going to do what I'm about to suggest: Instead of monofilament, braided fishing line is generally stronger, and has virtually no play.
5:34 Flip the pieces of bottom hull. By having the longer bottom in the shorter rail piece, it will give you extra strength at the glue joint. *AH, I SEE **6:45** YOU’VE DONE THAT.*
I believe the reason that the boat did not go faster, and went in circles is because the propeller was not fully submerged,
I think that was definitely part of it
I would look for a plastic pipe with similar inner diameter and use the plunger and a pipe cap to make a very long syringe. This will increase the running time. The boat spins due to the boat having no rudder. If you implement a system like a bicycles wheel sprocket which clicks in one direction and engages in the other you may be able to tension the syringe without having the entire mechanism move.
You just need a rudder and try more weight in the boat to put the prop under water. Also try fitting a cavitation plate above the prop. Alternatively put a tube/duct around the prop.
What about making paddle wheels on each side like an old Mississippi river boat or paddle wheel across whole back of boat? Wouldn’t turn in circles that way.
Next addon, a rudder and an easier way to repower the boat...like a clutch and pull tab...
I SO fucking relate to his comment at Min2:19sec: Now I just need to go into fusion360 and design a bevel gear... wasting two days... Fuck paying 12$ for a solution..
I have found myself in this position so many times. And it's not that I can't a ford the 12$ solution, it's just that my project does not feel like being worth the 12$ (but I still wasted two days on it, I could have worked in the 12$ in half an hour overtime work)
I really like a series of upgrading. Please do another video. Maybe use the combination of a vacuum tube and a pressurised tube for more energy capacity? Maybe even up the volume? There is acually quite a lot that can be upgraded, so i will be looking forward to it.
In case you lack ideas im full of them, feel free to ask.
Yeah a pressurised container in addition could either make it go faster or further, might be hard to design this setup though!
I will most likely do an upgraded version soon because there is so much that could be done
@@kurzey8532 Awesome! Here's a stupid suggestion - have two syringes, one pulls, the other pushes. Could use pulleys to convert one so both pull or push, and for the non vacuum one, you could have a valve filling it with pressurized air from a pressurized vessel. Heh, could use one of those pressurized carbon dioxide vials hoping it wont explode...
It is fine to do something someone has already done if you are making it better.
He’s back! Great project the modeling on this one was impressive
Thank you!
Come back bro I love ur vids
How about powering something really small like a clock or even better a watch from daily changes in atmospheric pressure?
Funny video, nice idea. Keep going
this is what I've been say ,You see there's 3 Sides to a Story positive ,negative, neutral.
you just found Neutral.
very cool. can't wait to see what you make next :)
when i saw atmosphere powered i was originally thinking that it would recharge by using the naturally changing air pressure to mechanically store energy in a spring, but here is another kind of atmo motor then.
That is a clever idea, though i imagine the difference in air pressure may not be enough to do anything useful with at this scale, though I may be wrong.
@@kurzey8532 a small really efficient clock can work, but some tight tolerances and low friction would be an order unless you have large bellows for larger force.
Nice one there. Keep it up
Hey, hope when you’ve finished uni you continue making videos. Stressful time and good luck but your great at this too 👍 hope to see more content soon.
Nice and cool mouse mate to lol
The boat was running in circles because the propeller wasn't completely submerged. A rudder would also help.
Your idea is amazing.... I think its moving round towards left to right because the engine's cent force is opposite ... and other point is the structure of the boat is almost equal to engine so the engine's rotational force is easily effect on its center of gravitation...
use a paddle wheel out the back, or 2 paddle wheels on each side
Amazing video! liked and subscribed, please do more.
One possible fix would be to extend the top shaft beyond the stern of the boat, and run a longer belt to a propeller shaft mounted to the bottom of the boat.
Nice project!
Very cool project, and nice video!
Thank you!
Very nice effort .
Just needs the whole propeller underwater. A bit of weight on the boat might have actually helped it (at the risk of that leak appearing again!)
Awesome idea, keep it up!
When you have a 1 propeller the torque makes the vehicle turn that direction. So on planes single propeller planes have their engine on an angle to the side it wants to rotate to. Or you could try a second propeller that spins the opposite way the counteract the torque
Looking forward to the version 2
Run a keel down the bottom of the boat, and a rudder, to be able to get straight and curved path of travel.
Brilliant Bro. !!!! Kudos :)
Atmosphere powered is an interesting way to say vacuum battery.
Like a plane you'll need some turn flaps or ors. So when it's going to turn you'll have to drop an oar to pervert it turn
So, the final result was a boat that drifts. Not bad!