Pete's whole reaction, was the same reaction many of us took for that. I spend almost ten minutes walking up and down the house, trying to decompress the feeling and reasons for this. I just turned off the screen. Thanks to the person who threw the chicken, it lightened up so much the moment.
His face was very reminiscent of other fans’ faces in the stadium. People were even yelling at the ref, who was looking up at the replay of solo sikoa interfering and then just put his head down and started walking to the back
Cody losing at mania 39 ultimately lead to a great night at mania 40. Let's not forget that the whole year in between was a bunch of NOTHING and any heat the Usos had completely vanished
Yeah. Honestly, the last year of Roman's reign was a huge nothingburger apart from the Usos pinning Roman at Money in the Bank. Everything else was mid.
Jimmy's character is a serious weakpoint of the story. Had they given an actual reason for him rejoining the Bloodline, I think 2023 wouldn't have been as bad
I think in retrospect the Thunderdome was a good thing to establish that Tribal Chief character. All the trash talking mid match worked so well for Roman's character which would not have been possible to this extent with a live crowd. Dan going "You're not a fan" after the Mania 39 finish still makes me roar with laughter to this day.
It was too early. By the time we got to Mania 39, that version of Cody had only been active in WWE for a little under 5 months and had yet to lose a match. That kind of character can't steamroll his way to a championship, he needed a longer road
Thing with The Demon and the power up is he took Jimmy, Jey, and Roman with no issues after he it. It felt like the ending to an anime arc where the protagonist gets a new form to beat the big bad. It would have been amazing, instead we get the rope breaking.
@@Mr_Leo_DS my biggest issue with this, I do love the general idea of the bad guy just lucking out and beating the hero's final form by sheer coincidence and he would've been f*cked otherwise, but my issue with that spot is how little sense it makes. when do the ropes ever break in a wrestling show? I have never seen it happen before, it is not an error that just happens sometimes, it never happens, I have been watching wrestling for 13 years and I never saw the ropes break on live TV, so it is not believable that something so rare (possibly never happened before) just happened at this convenient timing. I think a better solution would be Paul Heyman cutting off, and the camera panning to the outside with Heyman having a smug devilish look on his face. that would work unless Heyman at the time was not with Roman cuz of the Lesnar storyline I can't remember
@@nouration9685 I know it happened at least 2 times before. 1 when The Rockers won the tag team titles back in the late 80s/early 90s (and the match didn't air because of that) and other time in a live event in a match involving Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley when Lashley tried running the ropes. Also the fact that it NEVER happens makes it even more annoying. That's the point. It was the ultimate lucky win for Roman. And I do think Paul Heyman being responsible for the rope breaking would have been cool but not as cool as it being dumb luck.
Cody losing at WM 39, in hindsight, actually WAS successful in making Cody an even bigger babyface and star than he already was. And at the same time, it was not the best thing for the Bloodline story. Since we knew that Roman wouldnt be dropping until WM40, all feuds had zero teeth behind them. And with Roman going VERY part time, meant the story rarely moved forward. Jey and Jimmy's heat fizzeled out REALLY fast, and Solo was stuck doing nothing for a year.
Yeah, people with an actual brain were saying exactly that at the time but empty headed fans would call you every bad name there is if you tried to explain that
There’s an episode of smackdown when Sami was in the bloodline where he offered Roman popcorn, they cut away, then cut back to where Roman, Sami and Heyman are eating popcorn and Sami offered Roman popcorn and you can’t hear them but Sami says “oh you got some” and Roman replies, “ya I got some.” From then, I have been religiously watching anything Roman because of how he can communicate the story that’s trying to be told.
Honestly I've been waiting for a Pete centric episode for a long time. He's kind of the best host and I think that's underestimated a lot. Roman's Tribal Chief run was legitimately so cool. Once he lost the shirt in the ring there's just something about how COOL he looks. Every PLE I think I said at least once "God he's so cool."
The raw after WM 39 kinda made codys loss feel worse at the time too with how awful that raw was and knowing we were going to repeat what John Cena did in 2012
Nice to look back on. Perfect end to the saga with the inclusion of the Rock, the pivot, and some of the greatest work of his career in his final boss character. Made it much more of an uphill task for Cody and his win more satisfying.
I think the ultimate story between Seth and Roman, post Tribal Chief, will eclipse Tribal Chief Roman, storytelling wise. And the pair ultimately making up and finally forgiving each other has the potential to be an even bigger emotional finale than Cody beating Roman.
The thing I believe is that they took the time to tell the story...again, not in a perfect way all the times, but they stuck to telling the story. In modern tv productions is a really hard thing to accomplish in a satisfactory manner.
As much as I like him, he got pretty bland by the end, his current gimmick have done wonders and is in the best angle so I ain't complaining, we the best Drew right now!
28:11 that was me at the end of WrestleMania 39 as well. I was so so very angry. Hearing you laugh about it is great though. I’m glad we are out of that era now.
Jimmy turning back to the dark side was when the storyline jumped the shark. The finale at WM 40 was perfection, thankfully, but the path leading up to it was rough.
That also makes me ask the question, does that mean that the WHOLE Roman experiment of Suffering Sucotash to the 2015 Rumble to every single match with Lesnar and the match with Triple H, feel worth it? I personally say yes, but man we fans have gone through some hard times.
The only times I realistically thought Roman could lose was at mania 37 or mania 39. Never thought he would lose at clash at the castle or at elimination chamber.
I cant deal without the smackdown review. I had to find another channel to watch on sat e days when I'd rather give me time to wrestletalk. Please bring it back
People forget that it wasn't just Cody losing that was the problem its that he lost in The Same Exact Frame By Frame Way that everyone before him lost. I wouldn't have even minded the loss if it was actually a clean loss. It's just the fact the did the same thing they did 15 times beforehand
I'm turning 25 Today, started watching wrestling as a young kid around 10 years old, at 16 thought this was lame and i was better than this, that stupid kid phase. Then, started watching again because i was missing something too watch of entertainment and basically when Sami joined the Bloodline was where i restarted watching and man, if this bloodline story was not on, i don't think i would have became this big of a fan as i am today
@@stopstalkingme2023 i think Roman stopped way before HHH got the power. The move made Roman seem like he was unhinged and destroy his opponents. He just went back to his mediocre 5 moves of doom.
I was acting the same way Pete, my friend who said Roman was beating Cody was laughing in my face . The kicker of it all, he's the person who's been a Cody fan since the very beginning, and I was the one who felt like I'd been stabbed in the back. Then we went and watched Cody beat Roman in the main event of WM 40, and we both lost our fucking minds . That year was worth it for that moment and a pop I'll genuinely never forget.
I’ll say this one: since it was non title, and would have made more sense to play toward his paranoia, Roman absolutely should have lost to Big E at survivor series. And should have shown without cheating he’s more than vulnerable.
I still stand by Cody lossing at Mania 39 was still a bad choice. Regardless of how Mania 40 concluded. It still felt like a course correction. Cody’s back to back rumble wins felt like a forgone conclusion. The Mania 40 win to me doesn’t feel as big as the Mania 39 win would’ve been. And for Roman most of 2023 just kinda felt like a waste of time. The Jey found was pretty much it. And it could’ve happened without Roman having the title anyway. And Sami and Kevin were a big part of the bloodline story and to see them have no real involvement in the Mania 40 Main Event felt weird. I just wasn’t as invested in the rematch. Despite the best efforts of Rock Cena and Taker to make it feel like an End Game.
For a purely storytelling perspective Cody's loss at 39 is made slightly better because he won at 40, but 39 is still a bad match and bad moment, I think. I might be putting too much stock in something that doesn't matter, but Solo coming back to interfere after being ejected from ringside just feels like it violates a fundamental rule of professional wrestling's universe, and it makes everyone from the referees to the general managers to HHH look like they have zero control over their event. Now if anyone ever gets sent to the back during a match, why should anyone believe they won't just come out and interfere again? Why shouldn't the person just interfere again, it happened on the biggest match of the biggest event and nothing happened to the guy who did it.
Better with hindsight but i don't think i've ever come as close to quitting WWE again as '39. There have been moments that near soured me the past five years but that left me particularly dejected to the product for a couple months.
From wrestlemania 40 it was mix reactions from fans! Some were happy that Cody finally finished his story & others were very sad and disappointed that Roman reigns finally lost the undisputed universal championship!
The biggest issue I still have with WM39 is that they had ejected Solo Sikoa and he came back in. If they had the Usos cause a bunch of interference and they get ejected and then Solo just did the Spike at the end, it would have made it so much better to me.
I would personally review wm39 and 40 like this: 40 was great because of the failure of 39 and everything else before 40. Because, honestly, I would just have Cody win at wm39. The Bloodline story didn't need the title at that point and Rock could've easily faced Roman at wm40 instead. Because we got Cody going into filler feuds, won back to back rumbles which isn't exciting imo (blame 39 for that), and Roman leaving even longer. So, basically, the ENDING of wm40 was better in hindsight and not anything else in 2023 before the Rock showed up.
In the end Cody losing at Mania 39 was the right call, but that year between was a whole lotta nothing for both guys and wasn’t good even in hindsight. Roman barely defended and Cody was legit doing random side quests while they both waited for the next rumble
I'm not really sure how you can say that it was best for him to lose at Mania 39 and then say the year after he lost sucked like the main reason that year sucked was that CODY LOST IH THE FIRST PLACE.
@@conradcooper2710 When I say him losing at Mania 39 was the right call I’m specifically talking about his win at Mania 40. Now that we suffered through that year it’s easier to say in hindsight that it made Mania 40 more special. But believe me that year was still bad in terms of story for those two
Part of me kinda thought logan paul coulda won at crown jewel but i think it was just the combination of his in ring work being a surprise coupled with a history of suadi upset wins
I will forever say that Cody should've won at mania 39. While 40 was a great bit of fun, it both wasn't worth the year of booking that we had, and also was nowhere near as hot on a legitimate story perspective (we had a grand story, but not as big as last year and was heavily reliant on fanwank over actual story content). At least it's finally over, though!
Honestly, I would have been surprised if Drew McIntyre had beaten Roman Reigns. I didn't believe for a second that he would have. Babyface Drew McIntyre was kind of meh so why would the WWE have him beat the red hot heel champion?
You guys are really hurting now not giving any review for the Samck Down shown. No live reaction for the Backlash. Please upload weekly Smackdown review.
Y’all complaining about the run being too long. I don’t think it was long enough! The Hogan record was RIGHT THERE. That was the chance to crown not only Roman, but this whole generation of wrestlers as just as good if not better than the superstars of the past. I don’t know why they couldn’t just hold off until Summerslam or Day One. It didn’t have to be a Mania thing IMO.
Because Roman had nothing else to accomplish with the title reign. He beat every single top star in the company at that point. Is it really worth having him stall the entire main event scene just for a scripted record? Roman wouldn't have even been 1st place, he would have been 3rd. If he had passed Hogan, people would have moved the goalposts and started saying he should hold it for another 3 years to beat Bruno's record.
@@sonic5993 Scripted this, scripted that. You’re not saying anything of substance. The entire show is scripted. Why do you people keep saying that like it’s some kind of profound point?
@diamondeyesfilms by your logic then, Roman losing shouldn't matter then. After all, it doesn't matter right? So who cares if Roman passed Hogan's reign.
I get it for the video sake ofc but personally I don’t see how anybody can look back and genuinely say Drew should have won at clash. He was already completely made and was never gonna be the Cody/Roman absolute face of the company. It would have been an incredibly good feeling moment at the time and maybe not even looked back at as bad. But nowhere near necessary. Y’all just had an AMAZING watch party so that atmosphere was there.
Would rather have smackdown review. Move these videos to Sunday and get rid of 3 words or less/ fewer. I know you won’t care or read my comment, but I’m not watching videos on Saturday or Sunday anymore after leaving this comment
I get what they were going for with Demon Balor, they were trying to make it like a video game power up but it just looked and came off lame and cheesy as balls
When it comes to should Cody have won at Mania 39, even if you could argue that they lucked into a bigger story/moment with the Rock joining, I think it ultimately was the right call to delay it to Mania 40
You can't convince me otherwise that Vince McMahon didn't have some sort of sexual fascination with Roman Reigns. Nobody wanted Reigns in the top spot, not the fans, not the other wrestlers, not HHH, hell Roman himself seemed reluctant on how he was being booked. There's no doubt in my mind if Vince wasn't ousted from the company Roman would've gone over at at this year's WrestleMania and his title reign would continue.
I wouldn't call it sexual fascination though you can certainly assume that, Vince just had this idea that big meaty men are the only ones worthy of being champions (what a pisstake) and maybe he just had an inclination towards them sexually too (its vince nothing is impossible) but he just never evolved past his vision which is sad. Hope he gets his comeuppance.
My overall takeaway from the bloodline storyline is that it simply came at the expense of too many other things. Regardless of the level of quality you want to assign the story specifically, too many other things suffered. RAW without a top champion for a year, the fact he's taken 6 of the last 8 Wrestlemania Main Events (One of the Two for 2021 and 2022 and both in 2023 and 2024), and the general last year of the run post 39 where things really hurt with a Part-Timer on top. One good story doesn't undo the damage it did to the rest of the show.
Honestly I wish they had pulled the trigger earlier. By the time Sami lost, I was done with Roman and wanted to move on. I started to remember why I hated him back in the 2010's. Nobody came out of this elevated up the card higher than where they started. Sami still in the IC picture like he was before, Owens still in the mid card, Solo on a giant losing streak. I just feel like this was Vince finally living out his fantasy of Roman as world champ and as soon as Vince was gone everyone was like thank God. I mean Roman was only in the shield because Vince in the first place. Roman also didn't work at all during the Thunderdome era and I get it was to do with his health but as soon as it's done, he comes back and becomes champ and all the people who worked to make it work get nowhere near the respect they deserve and maybe of them got "budget cuts". Thank you for attending my ranting TED Talk😂
I still think Cody should’ve won at Mania 39. I’d still argue that, as a match, Mania 39 was better, I see the Mania 40 match as more of an angle/segment since a lot of the greatness it leans on is outside interference over the two dudes actually doing a wrestle.
Even with his loss at this year's Mania, people cannot just forget that we had to endure years of Roman and, realistically, most of it was meh to bad. The ride had good moments, incredible moments even, but anyone that says the ride was amazing is lying.
Kinda projecting your own thoughts while taking shots at others for having a different viewpoint on the Bloodline storyline. The only down period was post Summerslam 2023 lol
The Observer puts out like 750,000 videos every week covering AEW, but only manages to squeak out a video covering WWE if it has to do with the Vince scandal or some segment that they can construe as not good, Sorry boys, WWE is just better. You can agenda set all you want.
Cody losing at 39 was the wrong decision and it will always be the wrong decision. Mania 40 was great but it just didn't feel as special, Owens and Zayn helping Cody made more sense and wrapped up that chapter of the Bloodline story perfectly. Then you could have Cody split the titles so you don't have to make a consolation world title and ideally have him fight Lesnar in their feud which actually makes sense and then have Jey beat Cody right after to win the Universal title and get the Bloodline break up that makes more sense and have Jey beat Roman at Summerslam. Then you can do Rock vs Roman at mania which is what this is all building up too as the Rock has stated many times or you can have the Rock be the final boss and go after Cody to take control from him. Also I actively didn't like the celebration of Cody winning the title because it felt to long and self congratulatory particularly with HHH coming out, it felt like if TK came out after Hangman had won the world title at Full Gear or Swerve won it at Dynasty.
There’s angry, then there’s “Pete after watching Cody Rhodes lose at WrestleMania 39” angry
Pete's whole reaction, was the same reaction many of us took for that. I spend almost ten minutes walking up and down the house, trying to decompress the feeling and reasons for this. I just turned off the screen. Thanks to the person who threw the chicken, it lightened up so much the moment.
@@donovanvazquez2992yeah same, I was still so annoyed I couldn't really enjoy WM40
His face was very reminiscent of other fans’ faces in the stadium. People were even yelling at the ref, who was looking up at the replay of solo sikoa interfering and then just put his head down and started walking to the back
I was screaming in Joy when Cody lost
@@KingAdam25crybaby 😂
Pete's reaction to the end of WM39 is still one of the best things you guys have ever put on RUclips.
Was incredibly cringe tho 😂
I always thought Pete's name was Oli...
Cody losing at mania 39 ultimately lead to a great night at mania 40. Let's not forget that the whole year in between was a bunch of NOTHING and any heat the Usos had completely vanished
Yeah. Honestly, the last year of Roman's reign was a huge nothingburger apart from the Usos pinning Roman at Money in the Bank. Everything else was mid.
Jimmy's character is a serious weakpoint of the story. Had they given an actual reason for him rejoining the Bloodline, I think 2023 wouldn't have been as bad
What do you mean? There was… um… well then there… uuuhhhh. Solo beating Cena?
@@cashclam1126 he lost ALL his matches from mania to mania then got mad at Jimmy for losing 🤣🤣
Solo still hasn't won a match from beating JC it's Sat 27th of April but sure Jimmy is the loser @@sidd77_
I think in retrospect the Thunderdome was a good thing to establish that Tribal Chief character. All the trash talking mid match worked so well for Roman's character which would not have been possible to this extent with a live crowd.
Dan going "You're not a fan" after the Mania 39 finish still makes me roar with laughter to this day.
Ultimately my stance is that Mania 39 was the right time for Roman to lose but a year too early for Cody to win.
It was too early. By the time we got to Mania 39, that version of Cody had only been active in WWE for a little under 5 months and had yet to lose a match. That kind of character can't steamroll his way to a championship, he needed a longer road
Exactly
@@AceTheSkylord That sounds stupid when tons of iconic wrestlers have done that exact thing.
Gem of a comment.
Long term storytelling
Thing with The Demon and the power up is he took Jimmy, Jey, and Roman with no issues after he it. It felt like the ending to an anime arc where the protagonist gets a new form to beat the big bad. It would have been amazing, instead we get the rope breaking.
I actually think the rope break was a very smart way to have Balor lose. Roman didn't even beat him, he just got ungodly lucky. I think it's genius.
@@Mr_Leo_DS my biggest issue with this, I do love the general idea of the bad guy just lucking out and beating the hero's final form by sheer coincidence and he would've been f*cked otherwise, but my issue with that spot is how little sense it makes. when do the ropes ever break in a wrestling show? I have never seen it happen before, it is not an error that just happens sometimes, it never happens, I have been watching wrestling for 13 years and I never saw the ropes break on live TV, so it is not believable that something so rare (possibly never happened before) just happened at this convenient timing.
I think a better solution would be Paul Heyman cutting off, and the camera panning to the outside with Heyman having a smug devilish look on his face. that would work unless Heyman at the time was not with Roman cuz of the Lesnar storyline I can't remember
@@nouration9685 I know it happened at least 2 times before. 1 when The Rockers won the tag team titles back in the late 80s/early 90s (and the match didn't air because of that) and other time in a live event in a match involving Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley when Lashley tried running the ropes.
Also the fact that it NEVER happens makes it even more annoying. That's the point. It was the ultimate lucky win for Roman. And I do think Paul Heyman being responsible for the rope breaking would have been cool but not as cool as it being dumb luck.
Cody losing at WM 39, in hindsight, actually WAS successful in making Cody an even bigger babyface and star than he already was.
And at the same time, it was not the best thing for the Bloodline story. Since we knew that Roman wouldnt be dropping until WM40, all feuds had zero teeth behind them. And with Roman going VERY part time, meant the story rarely moved forward. Jey and Jimmy's heat fizzeled out REALLY fast, and Solo was stuck doing nothing for a year.
Yeah, people with an actual brain were saying exactly that at the time but empty headed fans would call you every bad name there is if you tried to explain that
There’s an episode of smackdown when Sami was in the bloodline where he offered Roman popcorn, they cut away, then cut back to where Roman, Sami and Heyman are eating popcorn and Sami offered Roman popcorn and you can’t hear them but Sami says “oh you got some” and Roman replies, “ya I got some.” From then, I have been religiously watching anything Roman because of how he can communicate the story that’s trying to be told.
Honestly I've been waiting for a Pete centric episode for a long time. He's kind of the best host and I think that's underestimated a lot.
Roman's Tribal Chief run was legitimately so cool. Once he lost the shirt in the ring there's just something about how COOL he looks. Every PLE I think I said at least once "God he's so cool."
The raw after WM 39 kinda made codys loss feel worse at the time too with how awful that raw was and knowing we were going to repeat what John Cena did in 2012
That Pete reaction to Roman Reigns beating Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania XXXIX is an all timer. If looks could kill!
Mania 40 made Mania 39 better in my humble opinion. It gave us closure with that main event. Mania 40 was the endgame to 39’s infinity war
Mania 40 was not worth that year of horrid booking
Can we see a video of Pete reacting to his parkour videos next? ✊🏼 flippypete to Wrestletalk return confirmed!!!!!!
Nice to look back on. Perfect end to the saga with the inclusion of the Rock, the pivot, and some of the greatest work of his career in his final boss character. Made it much more of an uphill task for Cody and his win more satisfying.
Roman has some really good matches with Kevin Owens 🔥
It was criminal to not show the golf cart spot!
Tribal Wanker is still the best chant ever
Fun fact: the Cable Snap of Doom took place during the same week as AEW put on Bryan vs. Kenny Omega.
ROMAN's reign was the perfect start of new era. MOJARLY HE WAS THE REASON WHY FANS ,
SEMI-RETIRED SUPERSTAR CAMEBACK
Definitely not lol
They got time they came
U Roman stans would also say that WW2 was ended BC of BORMAN LAMES lol
Grow up Kid😂
I think the ultimate story between Seth and Roman, post Tribal Chief, will eclipse Tribal Chief Roman, storytelling wise. And the pair ultimately making up and finally forgiving each other has the potential to be an even bigger emotional finale than Cody beating Roman.
The thing I believe is that they took the time to tell the story...again, not in a perfect way all the times, but they stuck to telling the story. In modern tv productions is a really hard thing to accomplish in a satisfactory manner.
I still think Drew should have won at CATC.
no
if drew won, we would not have gotten the current drew, which is the best version of drew.
@switchbladeponger2373 true, but then his character would have been about being robbed of the fans at Wrestlemania specifically
@@רוובראל-ו7וyes kid yes
As much as I like him, he got pretty bland by the end, his current gimmick have done wonders and is in the best angle so I ain't complaining, we the best Drew right now!
28:11 that was me at the end of WrestleMania 39 as well. I was so so very angry. Hearing you laugh about it is great though. I’m glad we are out of that era now.
Jimmy turning back to the dark side was when the storyline jumped the shark. The finale at WM 40 was perfection, thankfully, but the path leading up to it was rough.
That also makes me ask the question, does that mean that the WHOLE Roman experiment of Suffering Sucotash to the 2015 Rumble to every single match with Lesnar and the match with Triple H, feel worth it?
I personally say yes, but man we fans have gone through some hard times.
The only times I realistically thought Roman could lose was at mania 37 or mania 39. Never thought he would lose at clash at the castle or at elimination chamber.
I cant deal without the smackdown review. I had to find another channel to watch on sat e days when I'd rather give me time to wrestletalk. Please bring it back
Please can we have smack down reviews? Even the podcast at least
People forget that it wasn't just Cody losing that was the problem its that he lost in The Same Exact Frame By Frame Way that everyone before him lost.
I wouldn't have even minded the loss if it was actually a clean loss. It's just the fact the did the same thing they did 15 times beforehand
Who else is missing Smackdown reviews
Clash would have been CRAZY with Drew completing his story 😅
I'm turning 25 Today, started watching wrestling as a young kid around 10 years old, at 16 thought this was lame and i was better than this, that stupid kid phase. Then, started watching again because i was missing something too watch of entertainment and basically when Sami joined the Bloodline was where i restarted watching and man, if this bloodline story was not on, i don't think i would have became this big of a fan as i am today
I think roman title reign is one of the best reigns in professional wrestling history
Smackdown review, I miss you.
cody winning at 40 was the PERFECT story over the years. however… I still think Sami at EC, might’ve topped it
man i miss the live reactions with Oli with other main guys
Man i do not care what anyone says finn vs roman with the music playing was so badass
I legit called the Jimmy Uso bit where he backstabs Jey.
Man only problem with the run is, Roman stopped using the guillotine.
Triple HHH nerfed that move ig
@@stopstalkingme2023 i think Roman stopped way before HHH got the power. The move made Roman seem like he was unhinged and destroy his opponents. He just went back to his mediocre 5 moves of doom.
A lot of revisionist history here. Everyone at Wrestletalk thought Sami should have won the title......
I was acting the same way Pete, my friend who said Roman was beating Cody was laughing in my face . The kicker of it all, he's the person who's been a Cody fan since the very beginning, and I was the one who felt like I'd been stabbed in the back.
Then we went and watched Cody beat Roman in the main event of WM 40, and we both lost our fucking minds . That year was worth it for that moment and a pop I'll genuinely never forget.
Babyface Roman with the Uso's and Heyman will be amazing... So long as he doesn't touch the title now again!
He still should have been Champion, Cody didn’t deserve it
I saw a stamp in the corner of one of the clips and now I need to ask, where’s beer gone?
Didn't Bryan get Roman to tap during the Smackdown match? Visible tap, but unseen by the ref. Right?
It was during their bout at Fastlane
Completely forgot that match. Thanks m8.
I’ll say this one: since it was non title, and would have made more sense to play toward his paranoia, Roman absolutely should have lost to Big E at survivor series. And should have shown without cheating he’s more than vulnerable.
I still stand by Cody lossing at Mania 39 was still a bad choice. Regardless of how Mania 40 concluded.
It still felt like a course correction. Cody’s back to back rumble wins felt like a forgone conclusion. The Mania 40 win to me doesn’t feel as big as the Mania 39 win would’ve been.
And for Roman most of 2023 just kinda felt like a waste of time. The Jey found was pretty much it. And it could’ve happened without Roman having the title anyway.
And Sami and Kevin were a big part of the bloodline story and to see them have no real involvement in the Mania 40 Main Event felt weird.
I just wasn’t as invested in the rematch. Despite the best efforts of Rock Cena and Taker to make it feel like an End Game.
Can't believe the finish of mania 39 turned Pete into Bert from Sesame Street. Rough night, eh?
For a purely storytelling perspective Cody's loss at 39 is made slightly better because he won at 40, but 39 is still a bad match and bad moment, I think. I might be putting too much stock in something that doesn't matter, but Solo coming back to interfere after being ejected from ringside just feels like it violates a fundamental rule of professional wrestling's universe, and it makes everyone from the referees to the general managers to HHH look like they have zero control over their event. Now if anyone ever gets sent to the back during a match, why should anyone believe they won't just come out and interfere again? Why shouldn't the person just interfere again, it happened on the biggest match of the biggest event and nothing happened to the guy who did it.
All of this said, Pete's reaction to the finish was absolute gold.
we want smack down reviews
People should've watched it then
Better with hindsight but i don't think i've ever come as close to quitting WWE again as '39. There have been moments that near soured me the past five years but that left me particularly dejected to the product for a couple months.
Catc, EC, and Mania 39 are the only times I realistically thought Roman was gonna lose
4:34 this makes no sense because Jey tried to stop but he said no then he said no then yes until idk
Drew should have won the Championship at Clash of the Castle in 2022 and dropped it to Rhodes at Mania 39
From wrestlemania 40 it was mix reactions from fans! Some were happy that Cody finally finished his story & others were very sad and disappointed that Roman reigns finally lost the undisputed universal championship!
I still stand on it should have been sammy zayn
There were only like 2 or 3 times you actually could have argued Roman Should’ve lost. But they had to hit that 30 minute mark
The biggest issue I still have with WM39 is that they had ejected Solo Sikoa and he came back in. If they had the Usos cause a bunch of interference and they get ejected and then Solo just did the Spike at the end, it would have made it so much better to me.
I think the fact that Solo was ejected earlier actually made it more unpredictable
I love these kind of videos
I would personally review wm39 and 40 like this: 40 was great because of the failure of 39 and everything else before 40. Because, honestly, I would just have Cody win at wm39. The Bloodline story didn't need the title at that point and Rock could've easily faced Roman at wm40 instead. Because we got Cody going into filler feuds, won back to back rumbles which isn't exciting imo (blame 39 for that), and Roman leaving even longer. So, basically, the ENDING of wm40 was better in hindsight and not anything else in 2023 before the Rock showed up.
Every opponent given an out, so they come out stronger. Except the 2 guys leaving Edge and Bryan smashed and stacked
Great show ❤
In the end Cody losing at Mania 39 was the right call, but that year between was a whole lotta nothing for both guys and wasn’t good even in hindsight. Roman barely defended and Cody was legit doing random side quests while they both waited for the next rumble
I'm not really sure how you can say that it was best for him to lose at Mania 39 and then say the year after he lost sucked like the main reason that year sucked was that CODY LOST IH THE FIRST PLACE.
Cody wasn't "doing side quests". He was cementing himself as a credible babyface
@@conradcooper2710 When I say him losing at Mania 39 was the right call I’m specifically talking about his win at Mania 40. Now that we suffered through that year it’s easier to say in hindsight that it made Mania 40 more special. But believe me that year was still bad in terms of story for those two
Part of me kinda thought logan paul coulda won at crown jewel but i think it was just the combination of his in ring work being a surprise coupled with a history of suadi upset wins
Punch into frog was the moment then when Roman kicked out I knew he would win
@@honeyjm8324 yeah so true
Never at any point did I think Drew was winning.
I was baffled by the number of people who thought he was going to.
pete was right. cody should've won at mania 39
I will forever say that Cody should've won at mania 39. While 40 was a great bit of fun, it both wasn't worth the year of booking that we had, and also was nowhere near as hot on a legitimate story perspective (we had a grand story, but not as big as last year and was heavily reliant on fanwank over actual story content). At least it's finally over, though!
Roman Reigns' title defenses should be a TLC
What the music in this video?
Honestly, I would have been surprised if Drew McIntyre had beaten Roman Reigns. I didn't believe for a second that he would have. Babyface Drew McIntyre was kind of meh so why would the WWE have him beat the red hot heel champion?
You guys are really hurting now not giving any review for the Samck Down shown. No live reaction for the Backlash.
Please upload weekly Smackdown review.
Y’all complaining about the run being too long. I don’t think it was long enough! The Hogan record was RIGHT THERE. That was the chance to crown not only Roman, but this whole generation of wrestlers as just as good if not better than the superstars of the past. I don’t know why they couldn’t just hold off until Summerslam or Day One. It didn’t have to be a Mania thing IMO.
Because Roman had nothing else to accomplish with the title reign. He beat every single top star in the company at that point. Is it really worth having him stall the entire main event scene just for a scripted record? Roman wouldn't have even been 1st place, he would have been 3rd.
If he had passed Hogan, people would have moved the goalposts and started saying he should hold it for another 3 years to beat Bruno's record.
Are you crazy
@@sonic5993 Scripted this, scripted that. You’re not saying anything of substance. The entire show is scripted. Why do you people keep saying that like it’s some kind of profound point?
@diamondeyesfilms by your logic then, Roman losing shouldn't matter then. After all, it doesn't matter right? So who cares if Roman passed Hogan's reign.
I get it for the video sake ofc but personally I don’t see how anybody can look back and genuinely say Drew should have won at clash. He was already completely made and was never gonna be the Cody/Roman absolute face of the company. It would have been an incredibly good feeling moment at the time and maybe not even looked back at as bad. But nowhere near necessary. Y’all just had an AMAZING watch party so that atmosphere was there.
Would rather have smackdown review.
Move these videos to Sunday and get rid of 3 words or less/ fewer.
I know you won’t care or read my comment, but I’m not watching videos on Saturday or Sunday anymore after leaving this comment
I get what they were going for with Demon Balor, they were trying to make it like a video game power up but it just looked and came off lame and cheesy as balls
20:27 I would give the 🍁 Chelsea Smile
When it comes to should Cody have won at Mania 39, even if you could argue that they lucked into a bigger story/moment with the Rock joining, I think it ultimately was the right call to delay it to Mania 40
You can't convince me otherwise that Vince McMahon didn't have some sort of sexual fascination with Roman Reigns. Nobody wanted Reigns in the top spot, not the fans, not the other wrestlers, not HHH, hell Roman himself seemed reluctant on how he was being booked. There's no doubt in my mind if Vince wasn't ousted from the company Roman would've gone over at at this year's WrestleMania and his title reign would continue.
Roman's accomplishments will always an asterisk of any other booker would have gave up on him by this point.
I wouldn't call it sexual fascination though you can certainly assume that, Vince just had this idea that big meaty men are the only ones worthy of being champions (what a pisstake) and maybe he just had an inclination towards them sexually too (its vince nothing is impossible) but he just never evolved past his vision which is sad. Hope he gets his comeuppance.
That is an undisputed fact
@@peanut224 Nah, it's probably sexual fascination if you've heard about the stories involving Vince's borderline obsession with big meaty men.
So, your saying Vince likes big sweaty men?
We need Tempest on here to watch The Ass Boys cus he loves them so much
Not gonna lie I wanted it to ne edge because of the fans being back and it was edge
You still could do rock, roman, cody if cpdy won at 39
Will there be a story about Vince selling the rest of his stock a few hours ago?
Probably on their Monday news video
Need tempo to do Jeff Hardy moments lol
It’s me DDPETE
Not the point of the video at all but I just wanted to say I love Pete’s beholder shirt
I miss news on the weekends. Ain’t nobody trying to watch 30 min opinion pieces.
☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾...good job Pete
Why does the beginning of this video sound like the thong song?
My overall takeaway from the bloodline storyline is that it simply came at the expense of too many other things.
Regardless of the level of quality you want to assign the story specifically, too many other things suffered. RAW without a top champion for a year, the fact he's taken 6 of the last 8 Wrestlemania Main Events (One of the Two for 2021 and 2022 and both in 2023 and 2024), and the general last year of the run post 39 where things really hurt with a Part-Timer on top.
One good story doesn't undo the damage it did to the rest of the show.
Now every time John Cena should've lost/turn heel.
Honestly I wish they had pulled the trigger earlier. By the time Sami lost, I was done with Roman and wanted to move on. I started to remember why I hated him back in the 2010's. Nobody came out of this elevated up the card higher than where they started. Sami still in the IC picture like he was before, Owens still in the mid card, Solo on a giant losing streak. I just feel like this was Vince finally living out his fantasy of Roman as world champ and as soon as Vince was gone everyone was like thank God. I mean Roman was only in the shield because Vince in the first place. Roman also didn't work at all during the Thunderdome era and I get it was to do with his health but as soon as it's done, he comes back and becomes champ and all the people who worked to make it work get nowhere near the respect they deserve and maybe of them got "budget cuts".
Thank you for attending my ranting TED Talk😂
Still fuming about that Balor v Roman ending... how the hell did they book something that stupid?
I think it's genius. Roman didn't actually beat Balor, he didn't even outsmart him, he just got insanely lucky.
After mania 40 I will say that wwe was right
Jimmy Uso should have beat Roman Reigns for the title
JIMMMYYY!?
2 months and still no Smackdown review lol
I still think Cody should’ve won at Mania 39. I’d still argue that, as a match, Mania 39 was better, I see the Mania 40 match as more of an angle/segment since a lot of the greatness it leans on is outside interference over the two dudes actually doing a wrestle.
Welcome to sports entertainment
This video should be 0 seconds Should've never lost
Even with his loss at this year's Mania, people cannot just forget that we had to endure years of Roman and, realistically, most of it was meh to bad.
The ride had good moments, incredible moments even, but anyone that says the ride was amazing is lying.
Kinda projecting your own thoughts while taking shots at others for having a different viewpoint on the Bloodline storyline. The only down period was post Summerslam 2023 lol
Everyone will think by your comment you are lying here lol it was amazing except the summer slam 2023 match and angle and little bit after that
The Observer puts out like 750,000 videos every week covering AEW, but only manages to squeak out a video covering WWE if it has to do with the Vince scandal or some segment that they can construe as not good, Sorry boys, WWE is just better. You can agenda set all you want.
Cody losing at 39 is the feeling you get when your team loses the Superbowl. That's why it's great.
Cody losing at 39 was the wrong decision and it will always be the wrong decision. Mania 40 was great but it just didn't feel as special, Owens and Zayn helping Cody made more sense and wrapped up that chapter of the Bloodline story perfectly. Then you could have Cody split the titles so you don't have to make a consolation world title and ideally have him fight Lesnar in their feud which actually makes sense and then have Jey beat Cody right after to win the Universal title and get the Bloodline break up that makes more sense and have Jey beat Roman at Summerslam. Then you can do Rock vs Roman at mania which is what this is all building up too as the Rock has stated many times or you can have the Rock be the final boss and go after Cody to take control from him. Also I actively didn't like the celebration of Cody winning the title because it felt to long and self congratulatory particularly with HHH coming out, it felt like if TK came out after Hangman had won the world title at Full Gear or Swerve won it at Dynasty.