Why in the world would anyone thumbs down this video? It is told in plain English with straight forward but concise and clear details on the subject. The stupidity of some people is without measure...
You should probably mention that the butterfly razor head is very hard to dry off after every use, of course you could've just left it, but rust is the last thing you want on your razor One thing i find helpful is too shake off as much water as possible, and store the razor in an airtight container/bag along with some silica packets
Get an old Black beauty adjustable. Circa 1965-69. They are around , not cheap, and when kept up are still some of the best ever produced. Persona platinum blades from Germany or Israel are similar to the ones from back in the day. Great shave.
You're not kiddin' about the learning curve... I obtained my first safety razor as part of a lot from an estate auction. Got it cleaned up and gave it a very unsuccessful first run. Found these vids and discovered I had found a Gillette "New" gold-tone open comb from the '30's. Luckily my first go wasn't a bloody one. Armed with the correct techniques and proper angles, my second attempt made me a convert. The open comb was very forgiving...even for a noob!
I started with a Parker 22R in 2010 and just switch over to an EJ 86BL. Perhaps the 22R was/is an aggressive razor or something but I got a lot of cuts/nicks with that razor over 6 years....especially upper lip, corners of mouth and chin. The Edwin Jagger 80 series is such a blessing....smooth, no cuts or nicks.....I can get around my mouth, lips and chin without problem. It is supposed to be a medium/less aggressive razor but I get a better, smoother shave with the EJ than I ever did with the Parker. Fantastic razor whether you are a beginner or someone like myself who has been using a DE for 6 years.
Didn't know about the gap difference between the models, so i bought a 91R which is pretty agressive. I had cuts on my face for a week. But now i learned it.
I must tell on myself. For years, I made fun of my father for still using his 1960's Gillette Black Beauty instead of a cartridge razor. Now that I have been DE shaving for close to a year, he shakes his head as to say, "ya little smart ass, I knew all along what I was doing." He did in fact buy me my first DE razor when I was about 14 years old for which regrettably I lost on an airplane and then I purchased a good old cartridge razor. It was definitely a TTO razor. All I used was dove soap, no balm or aftershave and there was no prep involved. The only instruction was, " Don't go up, against the grain, it will train your beard to go the wrong way." LOL
It's too bad more emphasis isn't placed on adjustable razors for new wet-shavers, since it seems like a much better initial investment. Then again, the Parker 'Variant' adjustable, Merkur 'Progress' adjustable (both which Mantic59 has noted as the safety razors which 'you’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers', with the 'Variant' as his new favorite) and Rockwell '6C' adjustable system (all around $45-$60+) aren't quite as affordable as other noted options. In the long run, an adjustable safety razor (varying from very mild to moderately aggressive settings) will grow with new wet-shavers and have a much better longevity than the the Edwin Jagger DE89 or Merkur 34C HD once you learn the new shaving skill set. Plus, they might even help prevent you from buying a wider variety of safety razors (excepting slants and the most aggressive varieties) while in search of a better, faster shave.
I started with shavettes so safety razors are very easy for me to handles. I only have 2 besides a horrible beginner razor that is intolerably inefficient. My two razors are the muhle41 and the Merkur futur. The muhle41 has great tolerances and is my favorite for thick hair and shaving while bathing. The futur is incredibly effecient on most settings and is noticeably better for soft hair and head shaving. Watch out for the futur, the adjustment towards more aggressiveness changes BOTH the blade angle AND blade gap. This makes it become exponentially more aggressive at higher settings. Worse, the blade gets more springy because it is held less tightly. I’ve skipped the blade off my head like a pebble on water on the highest setting and that was very painful. Hitting the wrong angle too hard will also feel like taking a potato peeler to your head. Watch out for the higher settings and you should love your Futur. Changing and cleaning blades is also very fast.
My father shaved with an open comb razor! Now I am shaving with that and it is so aggressive that I nick my self every time I shave with it I nick myself! But I have never seen him cut himself with that.
I don't know why the Edwin Jagger is called a beginner razor. I switched to DE shaving over a year ago anf=d the Edwin Jagger is the only razor I use and does a great job. No need to buy another, it will last the rest of my life.
+Andrew Scotchmer I agree. i first bought a lord l6 then a parker 24c and finally a edwin de89. The lord l6 works great still but the 24c head broke after falling from the counter on to the rug. But the 24c hand is really nice, long and grippy. However, the de89 has the best fit and finish
+Andrew Scotchmer It depends on what ones definition of a beginners razor is. It is not said that it is a razor that is only good for inexperienced shavers. My definition of one is a razor that is suitable for everyone.
For a milder shave I would recommend a MERKER 15C. It is an open-comb 3 piece razor, but it is very mild. That said, I use feather blades in mine for a closer shave. My advice would be to try a blade sampler pack with the 15C to find a blade that works for you and your shaving needs. I hope this helps. A great day begins with a great shave. Have a great day.
+SmOkin Guam +Andrew Scotchmer While the Merkur 34C HD and Edwin Jagger DE89 are extremely popular beginner razors, a better investment might be the adjustable Merkur Progress (one of Mantic59's favorites, available inexpensively from Connaught Shaving in the UK) or the Rockwell 6C (available in March 2017) instead.
I really want to get the MuhleR41 or the EdwinJagger but I’m undecided I’m (fairly) new to de but I’m experienced with a Shavette. I bought a cheap $1 SAFTEY razor (butterfly) and I’m ready for an upgrade
Mike Rose the newer versions of the Muhle have never given me issues with nicks, they are also fantastically efficient, which makes shaving very fast. One caveat though, the Muhle 41 is better if you want one pass with cleanup. I love shaving but not spending a ton of time on the task. I wouldn’t use the Muhle if you are a 3 or 4 pass kinda guy, your skin will proabably be screaming in pain.
Update I’ve had my Muhle R41 for about a month now and I love it!! It seems like my BBS lasts longer lol. And now I only need to shave like twice a week 😁✌️And Im the guy that always used to rock a shaped up beard until I stumbled into Traditional WetShaving. I only have 2 soaps right now Proraso Red and Stirling Barbershop 💈I agree with u brotha it’s definitely a luxury that Muhle
I noticed you have shavettes experience. I started with shavettes, so the muhle41 was pretty much easy mode, and I never understood the fear. If DE safety razors are tricycles, shavettes are unicycles, if we are talking difficulty of use. You should be fine.
@@mikerose51 WOW, you must be a master of the wicked blade. I have used my R41 for 2-3 months and I still get a lot of razor burn and cuts. So I bought an R89 which is much much milder than that aggressive beast of r41 :))
I began shaving in the 70's with a double edge razor. I'm sure if I went to my mother's house they would still be in a bathroom drawer somewhere. The shaves were much better and closer than the cartridge type razors that dominate the market today. BUT they come at a risk! They are very sharp and can cut easily cut your skin. Don't press down too hard and take your time.
heres my questions... i have the Parker Variant adjustable, ive tried every blade under the sun, they all have 1,2,3,4 numbers on each corner...why? and I cant find any info online regarding which way blades go on??
it doesn't matter which way you put the blades in the razor..the numbers are there for some other reason..most likely answer seems to be as a quality control system for the manufacturer .My fave blades are Personna (Crystal) / Gillette Silver Blue and Feather if you want a really close shave. Proraso Cream is awesome if you haven't tried it yet.
You can do basically anything you want with the adjustable settings. Mainly though, adjust to different settings for the different passes during the shave. You may find that you prefer starting with a higher (more aggressive) setting for the first pass to take off most of the facial hair at the start. For second pass, dial down the setting a notch. And for the third and final pass, set to lowest. Also, if you shave every day or alternate days, you’d set to a lower number, but a 3-4 day growth, for example, would make a higher setting necessary for a more efficient shave. If anybody is going to own and use only one DE razor, I’d say a quality adjustable razor is ideal. I have several razors, but I still find adjustables convenient and fun to use.
Why in the world would anyone thumbs down this video? It is told in plain English with straight forward but concise and clear details on the subject. The stupidity of some people is without measure...
You should probably mention that the butterfly razor head is very hard to dry off after every use, of course you could've just left it, but rust is the last thing you want on your razor
One thing i find helpful is too shake off as much water as possible, and store the razor in an airtight container/bag along with some silica packets
Get an old Black beauty adjustable. Circa 1965-69. They are around , not cheap, and when kept up are still some of the best ever produced. Persona platinum blades from Germany or Israel are similar to the ones from back in the day. Great shave.
You're not kiddin' about the learning curve... I obtained my first safety razor as part of a lot from an estate auction. Got it cleaned up and gave it a very unsuccessful first run. Found these vids and discovered I had found a Gillette "New" gold-tone open comb from the '30's. Luckily my first go wasn't a bloody one. Armed with the correct techniques and proper angles, my second attempt made me a convert. The open comb was very forgiving...even for a noob!
I started with a Parker 22R in 2010 and just switch over to an EJ 86BL. Perhaps the 22R was/is an aggressive razor or something but I got a lot of cuts/nicks with that razor over 6 years....especially upper lip, corners of mouth and chin. The Edwin Jagger 80 series is such a blessing....smooth, no cuts or nicks.....I can get around my mouth, lips and chin without problem. It is supposed to be a medium/less aggressive razor but I get a better, smoother shave with the EJ than I ever did with the Parker.
Fantastic razor whether you are a beginner or someone like myself who has been using a DE for 6 years.
yeah, but do you get a whiskers off? LOL.
Didn't know about the gap difference between the models, so i bought a 91R which is pretty agressive.
I had cuts on my face for a week. But now i learned it.
I was thinking about getting that one too
I love the old film strip type narration! The only thing missing is the chime between segments.
I bought a Chatsworth as my first one a few years ago. Only on the basis that it was featured in a magazine.
You can't go wrong with the Merkur 34C as your first safety razor.
I must tell on myself. For years, I made fun of my father for still using his 1960's Gillette Black Beauty instead of a cartridge razor. Now that I have been DE shaving for close to a year, he shakes his head as to say, "ya little smart ass, I knew all along what I was doing." He did in fact buy me my first DE razor when I was about 14 years old for which regrettably I lost on an airplane and then I purchased a good old cartridge razor. It was definitely a TTO razor. All I used was dove soap, no balm or aftershave and there was no prep involved. The only instruction was, " Don't go up, against the grain, it will train your beard to go the wrong way." LOL
It's too bad more emphasis isn't placed on adjustable razors for new wet-shavers, since it seems like a much better initial investment. Then again, the Parker 'Variant' adjustable, Merkur 'Progress' adjustable (both which Mantic59 has noted as the safety razors which 'you’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers', with the 'Variant' as his new favorite) and Rockwell '6C' adjustable system (all around $45-$60+) aren't quite as affordable as other noted options. In the long run, an adjustable safety razor (varying from very mild to moderately aggressive settings) will grow with new wet-shavers and have a much better longevity than the the Edwin Jagger DE89 or Merkur 34C HD once you learn the new shaving skill set. Plus, they might even help prevent you from buying a wider variety of safety razors (excepting slants and the most aggressive varieties) while in search of a better, faster shave.
I always tell ppl to buy the Mingshi 2000s or Qshave b4 they get the futur but I would buy the Parker Variant
I started with shavettes so safety razors are very easy for me to handles. I only have 2 besides a horrible beginner razor that is intolerably inefficient. My two razors are the muhle41 and the Merkur futur. The muhle41 has great tolerances and is my favorite for thick hair and shaving while bathing. The futur is incredibly effecient on most settings and is noticeably better for soft hair and head shaving. Watch out for the futur, the adjustment towards more aggressiveness changes BOTH the blade angle AND blade gap. This makes it become exponentially more aggressive at higher settings. Worse, the blade gets more springy because it is held less tightly. I’ve skipped the blade off my head like a pebble on water on the highest setting and that was very painful. Hitting the wrong angle too hard will also feel like taking a potato peeler to your head. Watch out for the higher settings and you should love your Futur. Changing and cleaning blades is also very fast.
@mantic59 can't go wrong with gillette especially the heritage and the new king c gillette
Mindless swipes at my face is about all I can manage most mornings.
Nice breakdown of the DE razor line up.
My father shaved with an open comb razor! Now I am shaving with that and it is so aggressive that I nick my self every time I shave with it I nick myself! But I have never seen him cut himself with that.
I don't know why the Edwin Jagger is called a beginner razor. I switched to DE shaving over a year ago anf=d the Edwin Jagger is the only razor I use and does a great job. No need to buy another, it will last the rest of my life.
+Andrew Scotchmer I agree. i first bought a lord l6 then a parker 24c and finally a edwin de89. The lord l6 works great still but the 24c head broke after falling from the counter on to the rug. But the 24c hand is really nice, long and grippy. However, the de89 has the best fit and finish
+Andrew Scotchmer It depends on what ones definition of a beginners razor is. It is not said that it is a razor that is only good for inexperienced shavers. My definition of one is a razor that is suitable for everyone.
Gilette flare tip rocker for life!
been really thinking about a timeless scalloped open comb, but I don't know that I'm willing to spend the cash.
Merkur 34C is my jam!
for me i wanna razor that has the least amount of resistance or drag and that would be the merkur slant bar with a feather blade.
For a milder shave I would recommend a MERKER 15C. It is an open-comb 3 piece razor, but it is very mild. That said, I use feather blades in mine for a closer shave.
My advice would be to try a blade sampler pack with the 15C to find a blade that works for you and your shaving needs.
I hope this helps.
A great day begins with a great shave. Have a great day.
Good review - Thank You. You answer a lot of questions I had. Keep these videos coming. Very helpful! 👍🏻👍🏻
Rockwell 6S Stainless Razor, Gillette Nacet Stainless blades, Stirling Soap. Done!
Do you find one side of the Merkur 34C shaves better than the other side.
Yes it does.
+SmOkin Guam +Andrew Scotchmer While the Merkur 34C HD and Edwin Jagger DE89 are extremely popular beginner razors, a better investment might be the adjustable Merkur Progress (one of Mantic59's favorites, available inexpensively from Connaught Shaving in the UK) or the Rockwell 6C (available in March 2017) instead.
I really want to get the MuhleR41 or the EdwinJagger but I’m undecided I’m (fairly) new to de but I’m experienced with a Shavette. I bought a cheap $1 SAFTEY razor (butterfly) and I’m ready for an upgrade
Mike Rose the newer versions of the Muhle have never given me issues with nicks, they are also fantastically efficient, which makes shaving very fast. One caveat though, the Muhle 41 is better if you want one pass with cleanup. I love shaving but not spending a ton of time on the task. I wouldn’t use the Muhle if you are a 3 or 4 pass kinda guy, your skin will proabably be screaming in pain.
Update I’ve had my Muhle R41 for about a month now and I love it!! It seems like my BBS lasts longer lol. And now I only need to shave like twice a week 😁✌️And Im the guy that always used to rock a shaped up beard until I stumbled into Traditional WetShaving. I only have 2 soaps right now Proraso Red and Stirling Barbershop 💈I agree with u brotha it’s definitely a luxury that Muhle
I noticed you have shavettes experience. I started with shavettes, so the muhle41 was pretty much easy mode, and I never understood the fear. If DE safety razors are tricycles, shavettes are unicycles, if we are talking difficulty of use. You should be fine.
Yeah I love it I get a great smooth shave every dam time lol 💪😁
@@mikerose51 WOW, you must be a master of the wicked blade. I have used my R41 for 2-3 months and I still get a lot of razor burn and cuts. So I bought an R89 which is much much milder than that aggressive beast of r41 :))
I began shaving in the 70's with a double edge razor. I'm sure if I went to my mother's house they would still be in a bathroom drawer somewhere. The shaves were much better and closer than the cartridge type razors that dominate the market today. BUT they come at a risk! They are very sharp and can cut easily cut your skin. Don't press down too hard and take your time.
Sheep Dog what is the difference between a double edge safety razor and a safety razor?
That's not a Parker 99R that you keep showing. The TTO knob on the bottom isn't squared off, it is more like a ball shape.
+Dan Lutter you're right. I think that might have been my 82R instead of my 99R! :(
heres my questions... i have the Parker Variant adjustable, ive tried every blade under the sun, they all have 1,2,3,4 numbers on each corner...why? and I cant find any info online regarding which way blades go on??
it doesn't matter which way you put the blades in the razor..the numbers are there for some other reason..most likely answer seems to be as a quality control system for the manufacturer .My fave blades are Personna (Crystal) / Gillette Silver Blue and Feather if you want a really close shave. Proraso Cream is awesome if you haven't tried it yet.
What’s the cheapest you can find the varient for? I really want one
Does any company make a TTO razor with a scalloped safety bar?
Pearl makes an open-comb TTO that is said to be a mild shaving razor(can't remember the model).
what is the difference between a double edge safety razor and a safety razor?
anaya kapoor both are the same thing. You either call them double edge or safety razor
@@MuhammadZain-ly4if I think safety razors can be single edge as well
@@ekuzo4 yes you are right
For the adjustables, do you actually adjust them for different shaves and passes or do you end up settling to one setting?
You can do basically anything you want with the adjustable settings. Mainly though, adjust to different settings for the different passes during the shave. You may find that you prefer starting with a higher (more aggressive) setting for the first pass to take off most of the facial hair at the start. For second pass, dial down the setting a notch. And for the third and final pass, set to lowest.
Also, if you shave every day or alternate days, you’d set to a lower number, but a 3-4 day growth, for example, would make a higher setting necessary for a more efficient shave. If anybody is going to own and use only one DE razor, I’d say a quality adjustable razor is ideal. I have several razors, but I still find adjustables convenient and fun to use.
@@sajjadhusain4146 Thanks man, that's really helpful. Would you consider the Parker Variant a quality adjustable as you say?
@@troubauk I've had my Parker Variant Adjustable for a while now. Irs an awesome razor. Get it.
I get where to buy this double edge safety razor, can anyone help
Wilkinson Sword Classic has also made a two piece razor even the brand LEA AND THEY ARE CHEAP FEATHER HAS A BUTTERFLY OPEN ALSO CHEAP
honestly, for all the noobs out there, don't complicate things. Get a Merkur 34c as your first razor.
What about slant?
+Radu Caseti the slant razor is getting its own video! Working on it now.... :)
+mantic59 hopefully the Merkur 37C
+mantic59 when is the video on slant going to air ?
+Phoenix guessing late April right now.
I wonna get the RazoRock German 37 slant
My choice of poison,atm, is the Merkur 38C.
They don't cut good enough for me. I think I'm gonna switch to shavette
Try a nagressive Safety Razor
@@magnoliamike I used to shave myself with a razor with no base plate. Only handle and top. So there is none more aggressive razors